[Blend]

Macros, on 23 February 2017 - 05:06 PM, said:

Blend, on 23 February 2017 - 04:58 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 23 February 2017 - 04:38 PM, said:

Blend, on 23 February 2017 - 04:04 PM, said:

HoosierDaddy, on 23 February 2017 - 04:00 PM, said:

3. Why reveal with 5 minutes left when there's no one to hammer? Good point. Skeptic in me says you do so because you can then run day 3 as the "guard" that has been VPI'd.

THIS!!! ^^^^^

Seriously though, Khell is doing exactly as Khell always does. Sounding reasonable so he can weasel his way out of getting lynched, again. He should have been lynched on Day 1. If we had lynched him on Day 1, we wouldn't still be fucking discussing this on Day fucking 3. But whatever, everyone would rather let Khell run the game. Fine. I hope yall smarten up soon though!

Okay, say you found me, the evil Khell the scummy killer. Who's my partner, one-note? Say something new please. It is day 3.

Not sure about your partner. I initially thought it was Tatts, but that wasn't the case. I don't think HD is scum. I think Macros is your symp. I think Ment is probably not scum, though I don't have much of a read on him. Where has Ando really been all game? Mess is just a mess, but I don't think he is your scum partner. If anything, I get more of a sympy vibe than a killer vibe from him. Bubba hasn't actually done much besides agree/disagree with people all game, so he COULD be scum. But really, I think that Siergiej could very well be your partner - he was one of the "let's NOT lynch Khell" folks during Day 1, and though he did make a case against you on Day 2, it could very well be distancing.

In fact, if you flip town, then I would probably pursue a Siergiej case further. I could definitely see him and Bubba as a pair, for example, with someone like Mess or Ment as their symp.

Say what now blend?

you have been reading today yes?

Yeah yeah, I know, it's less likely that you're Khell's symp cause you're actually on my side today. If Khell flips town, however, I'll be looking closely at you, as I just don't trust you.

[Mentalist]

Andorion, on 23 February 2017 - 05:04 PM, said:

Mentalist, on 23 February 2017 - 03:09 PM, said:

Well, that was predictable.

I can see the merit in a khell lynch, for sure. But on the off chance he's not lying, we might be crippling town.

I think I'm still leaning towards mess atm. Buit I need to work for a few hours, I'll think on it until lunch time.

Ok, I have zero evidence for this, but this post just made my hair stand on end.

I have seen Ment do this before.

He sees a lynch going towards someone he wants safe. He half agrees, but prevaricates, throws in a vague alternative target and after some time builds a semi-plausible case to support himself.

I have seen him weasel out of impossible situations with this.

I think Khell is scum and Ment is a symp

Except, you know, I was voting mess last night, too. And I've been saying I don't particularly like him since Day1.

[Mentalist]

Khellendros, on 23 February 2017 - 03:32 PM, said:

- If I have a partner, who is it?

- Am I just fortunate in choosing a role to 'fake reveal' that no one is coming out to counter?

- Why reveal with 5 minutes left in the day and no one around to hammer? I could have easily just waited it out, but I wanted to see if anyone who was around would switch the kill to me.


These are all questions you should be asking yourselves.

1) only really plausible person at this point seems to be me, to be honest ---and I know that's not the case. I'd have said Mess or Sierg seem possible as well, but they seemed willing to lynch you Day2, so not too sure about that anymore.

2)if you are faking, best chances are you are symp or just RI khell being khell. Not much good would come out of a counter-reveal, especially given the slew of knee-jerk votes without a counter.

3) what is this I don't even... you are suggesting you'd sacrifice yourself so we'd have the dubious honour of trying to wifom meta who the killers are based on who was around at timeout? You're really not helping your case here.

[Andorion]

Mentalist, on 23 February 2017 - 05:30 PM, said:

Andorion, on 23 February 2017 - 05:04 PM, said:

Mentalist, on 23 February 2017 - 03:09 PM, said:

Well, that was predictable.

I can see the merit in a khell lynch, for sure. But on the off chance he's not lying, we might be crippling town.

I think I'm still leaning towards mess atm. Buit I need to work for a few hours, I'll think on it until lunch time.

Ok, I have zero evidence for this, but this post just made my hair stand on end.

I have seen Ment do this before.

He sees a lynch going towards someone he wants safe. He half agrees, but prevaricates, throws in a vague alternative target and after some time builds a semi-plausible case to support himself.

I have seen him weasel out of impossible situations with this.

I think Khell is scum and Ment is a symp

Except, you know, I was voting mess last night, too. And I've been saying I don't particularly like him since Day1.

Like I said, 0 evidence, moslty gut, and I don't trust anything you post at all right now.

Shit, I turned into Mac

[Siergiej]

@Blend: yes, I'm a scum partnering with Khell so hard that I switched my vote to him before timeout trying to get a lynch.

Nailed it

[Mentalist]

I'm hesitant to lynch khell just yet, because against all odds, he might still be our guard.

That being said, I'd like to hear something other than why lynching him is bad from him. In particular, he labelled mess as "symp" very early on, but he hasn't really tried to draw any connections to that. I'm not saying he ought to have made a "mess is dumping X, so X is scum" cases, but his suspect choice to yesterday (Mac) doesn't really fit with mess as symp all that well, I don't think.

And I still feel that reverse-calling your master a symp is a pretty good way to delay the heat off them. And symp would fit khell's MO and the reveal better.

[Mentalist]

Andorion, on 23 February 2017 - 05:41 PM, said:

Mentalist, on 23 February 2017 - 05:30 PM, said:

Andorion, on 23 February 2017 - 05:04 PM, said:

Mentalist, on 23 February 2017 - 03:09 PM, said:

Well, that was predictable.

I can see the merit in a khell lynch, for sure. But on the off chance he's not lying, we might be crippling town.

I think I'm still leaning towards mess atm. Buit I need to work for a few hours, I'll think on it until lunch time.

Ok, I have zero evidence for this, but this post just made my hair stand on end.

I have seen Ment do this before.

He sees a lynch going towards someone he wants safe. He half agrees, but prevaricates, throws in a vague alternative target and after some time builds a semi-plausible case to support himself.

I have seen him weasel out of impossible situations with this.

I think Khell is scum and Ment is a symp

Except, you know, I was voting mess last night, too. And I've been saying I don't particularly like him since Day1.

Like I said, 0 evidence, moslty gut, and I don't trust anything you post at all right now.

Shit, I turned into Mac

And who did Mac turn into?

[Andorion]

Khellendros, on 23 February 2017 - 08:23 AM, said:

Nom's vote puts me on L-1 right?

Messremb, on 23 February 2017 - 08:23 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 23 February 2017 - 08:23 AM, said:

Nom's vote puts me on L-1 right?

Lynch actually I think, I'll go check

Khellendros, on 23 February 2017 - 08:24 AM, said:

I'm a guard. THAT is why I've been fighting to stay alive so hard - you've all just been interpreting it as me being me (though there is that too). But that's why I keep saying things like lynching that other guy would be a better thing to do.

Messremb, on 23 February 2017 - 08:24 AM, said:

Messremb, on 23 February 2017 - 08:23 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 23 February 2017 - 08:23 AM, said:

Nom's vote puts me on L-1 right?

Lynch actually I think, I'll go check

Damn, no, Nom would be L-1 dammit

Messremb, on 23 February 2017 - 08:24 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 23 February 2017 - 08:24 AM, said:

I'm a guard. THAT is why I've been fighting to stay alive so hard - you've all just been interpreting it as me being me (though there is that too). But that's why I keep saying things like lynching that other guy would be a better thing to do.

Dammit Khell

Messremb, on 23 February 2017 - 08:25 AM, said:

Remove Vote

Itwæs Nom, on 23 February 2017 - 08:26 AM, said:

Or not then

Remove vote please

Khell's reveal

If he is a Guard, why did he do it then? He keeps saying no one was going to hammer him. In fact it was extremely dangerous, given that a Killer may have had an eye on the thread, and he could not have been sure the Healer was around.

So for what reason would he risk a roled town? It stinks.

What it did do was get himself of L-1. He was not worried about the reveal getting him killed as he is the killer

[Andorion]

I think we need to lynch Khell.

Day 1 was the LOL Lynch Khell shitshow.

Day 2 Khell fights off a near lynch with a dodgy reveal.

Day 3 we are debating the dodgy reveal.

This game has turned into the Khell show.

He needs to go.

[Mentalist]

Andorion, on 23 February 2017 - 06:02 PM, said:

I think we need to lynch Khell.

Day 1 was the LOL Lynch Khell shitshow.

Day 2 Khell fights off a near lynch with a dodgy reveal.

Day 3 we are debating the dodgy reveal.

This game has turned into the Khell show.

He needs to go.

I'm starting to think there's little chance of moving forward until that's done.

Damn you, blend.

[Siergiej]

Ando makes a great point here. Not that Khell needs to go because it's a shitshow - that's on Blend.

But Khell's explanation of the reveal doesn't add up. First he claims he's doing this to save himself, but then when accused of self-revealing he starts saying there was no one to hammer him anyway. And it's not the first time this game Khell has been making contradictory statements.

EDIT

Spelling.

EDIT 2

self=fake, lol. I need my afternoon tea.

This post has been edited by Siergiej: 23 February 2017 - 06:50 PM

[Andorion]

Khell needs to explain this in a non-slimy way.

I am going to bed, another bad day ahead tomorrow.

Will be around in 6 hours to see whats up

[HoosierDaddy]

I'm "catching up". Which means I'm not throwing up so I'll go back a few pages and see what's happened.

Hope everybody else is feeling way better than me right now. Blech.

[Messremb]

Here.

I've done a skim and from the amount of people having doubts I'd suspect a fake reveal. I'm not going to vote yet though.

Partners? Ando/SJ? I don't really see Mac seeing as he was first on the train today and is still firmly seated.

Now breakfast and coffee time. I'm going to keep the spoon nearby in case Tatts posts another time update so I can gouge my eyes out

[HoosierDaddy]

Khell reveals guard. Nobody believes him? Under duress, yes.

Ando was at least honest about not following the thread, but. Seriously? Do your job and follow the thread. I'm ready to vote you right now for that reason.

Siergeij? (Sorry) is still on my keep looking at list.

Vote Khell

This will clear a lot of thread crap as well as finish the question once and for all.

[Path-Shaper]

It is day 3. 24 hours and 14 minutes left in the day.

9 Players still alive: (Ment, Khell, HD, Blend, Ando, Messremb, SiergieJ, Mac, Bubba)
5 votes to lynch. 4 votes to go night.

4 votes for Khell; Macros, Blend, Bubba, HD
1 vote Mess; SiergieJ


Players not voted: Ment, Khell, Ando, Messremb

[Messremb]

Everyones checked in now, right?

[HoosierDaddy]

Khell has plenty of time to explain:

Remove vote

[HoosierDaddy]

I don't want anyone at L-1 at this point for a not good reason. I think there's reason to vote Khell, but there are others who need wholly checked: Andorian for one.

[Messremb]

HoosierDaddy, on 23 February 2017 - 08:32 PM, said:

I don't want anyone at L-1 at this point for a not good reason. I think there's reason to vote Khell, but there are others who need wholly checked: Andorian for one.

If it isn't a good reason why were you voting for it?