[Path-Shaper]

Path-Shaper, on 03 February 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

Alright, as of this post:

Gamelon, on 03 February 2017 - 09:39 AM, said:

Phew, lots going on! I'm wary about this being some D&D weirdness. There are abilities that let you control other people, right? Could someone have forced Sorrit to drop a vote against someone other than Mockra?

My intuition is that getting Mockra's CF will make help untangle the mess at this point. So for now:

Vote Mockra

It is Day 2. 57 minutes remaining

14 Players still alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Fanderay, Gamelon, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Lock, Mockra, Pallid, Sorrit, Telas, Trake, Tulas Shorn, Ultama

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Trake ( Kessobahn, Bek Okhan )
9 Votes for Mockra ( Sorrit, Gamelon, Ultama, Trake, Alkend, Pallid, Telas, Tulas Shorn, Mockra )

Players not voted: Fanderay, Iparth Erule, Lock


Mockra has been lynched. He was Grrarp One-Balled the Dragonborn Barbarian.

Just so everyone's aware - the votes are in weird order because of some kind of Mafia manager glitch.

I'm working on resolving the Night cycle, and will come back and fix the vote order when I've done that!

[Path-Shaper]

Gamelon has been killed. He was an Elemental.




It is Day 3. 47 hours and 59 minutes remaining

12 Players still alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Fanderay, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Lock, Pallid, Sorrit, Telas, Trake, Tulas Shorn, Ultama

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Fanderay, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Lock, Pallid, Sorrit, Telas, Trake, Tulas Shorn, Ultama

[Path-Shaper]

Weekend freeze will begin when there are 24 hours left on the clock.

[Fanderay]

Path-Shaper, on 03 February 2017 - 03:16 PM, said:

Gamelon has been killed. He was an Elemental.




It is Day 3. 47 hours and 59 minutes remaining

12 Players still alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Fanderay, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Lock, Pallid, Sorrit, Telas, Trake, Tulas Shorn, Ultama

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Fanderay, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Lock, Pallid, Sorrit, Telas, Trake, Tulas Shorn, Ultama

So Gamelon was a puppet. Time to go and read over their posts for clues, I guess.

[Fanderay]

OK, there was a bunch of nonsense about breakfast on Day 1 where he interacted with a ton of players. Can't really pick out any obvious signals though. He did a lot of talking about Tulas Shorn yesterday, maybe that's relevant?

Gamelon, on 02 February 2017 - 11:12 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 01 February 2017 - 11:44 PM, said:

Oh look at that, killing the Survivor accomplished so much.

And are you serious Trake? First, I'm accused of defending Omtose hard so they might be on the same faction as me, and then, when it turns out that they are indeed the survivor, you say it's suspicious that people would be defending the survivor hard??

How about this: It wasn't defending, it was just pointing out some reasonable logical sense, which only a couple of other people seem to get.

Hang on a minute - Trake never even mentions you! He fingers me and Alkend:

Trake, on 01 February 2017 - 05:44 PM, said:

I'm wondering now, why would Alkend and Gameleon stick their necks out to defend Omtose? Did they really want a 10 AP person walking around determining the winner of this game?

Is this a slip? Tulas and Alkend might be run by the same player.

There was some subsequent speculation by Lock that this could actually mean that Gamelon and Tulas Shorn were the same player. With Gamelon now revealed as a puppet, maybe that makes sense? Although I can't quite put together a good scenario that would explain why Gamelon/TS would expose their own slip, so maybe that doesn't work.

[Iparth Erule]

Now that we know that Mockra was not a puppet, the question still stands out there on why there seemed to be resistance to Trake.

vote Trake

[Iparth Erule]

No one around to discuss? It's Friday, and I'm out. I'll try and sign in over the weekend.

[Alkend]

Iparth Erule, on 03 February 2017 - 05:51 PM, said:

No one around to discuss? It's Friday, and I'm out. I'll try and sign in over the weekend.

I'm here and I'll be out too shortly.

I think it is worth noting that Gamelon had a vote that counted as he was the hammer. Had he not been NK'd we'd have thought he was a real boy.

[Trake]

Since we've already killed one of the Bonehunters and they have a Paladin as their leader (a role associated with resurrection), I'm going to reveal some information I have gained.

Bek Okhan is an alt associated with the BH faction. I don't know whether it is the half gnome's puppet or one of the main alts but 2/3 odds of getting an actual player + 1/3 odd of getting the leader of an opposing faction are good enough for me.

Vote BO


Let us ensue the culture hunt.

[Sorrit]

Alkend, on 03 February 2017 - 06:33 PM, said:

Iparth Erule, on 03 February 2017 - 05:51 PM, said:

No one around to discuss? It's Friday, and I'm out. I'll try and sign in over the weekend.

I'm here and I'll be out too shortly.

I think it is worth noting that Gamelon had a vote that counted as he was the hammer. Had he not been NK'd we'd have thought he was a real boy.

Which also means the player behind Gamelon should have no more additional alts, except for the racial clockwork toy if it was BH Paladin leader.

Trake, on 03 February 2017 - 07:04 PM, said:

Since we've already killed one of the Bonehunters and they have a Paladin as their leader (a role associated with resurrection), I'm going to reveal some information I have gained.

Bek Okhan is an alt associated with the BH faction. I don't know whether it is the half gnome's puppet or one of the main alts but 2/3 odds of getting an actual player + 1/3 odd of getting the leader of an opposing faction are good enough for me.

Vote BO

Let us ensue the culture hunt.

Considering all the attention you're getting I'm not particularly inclined to believe you here. As I see it you could easily be trying to sacrifice you clockwork toy to gain either credibility, or a one more day to ressurect your fallen comrade or just for the sake of staying alive as long as possible, or all of that.

[Telas]

Trake, on 03 February 2017 - 07:04 PM, said:

Since we've already killed one of the Bonehunters and they have a Paladin as their leader (a role associated with resurrection), I'm going to reveal some information I have gained.

Bek Okhan is an alt associated with the BH faction. I don't know whether it is the half gnome's puppet or one of the main alts but 2/3 odds of getting an actual player + 1/3 odd of getting the leader of an opposing faction are good enough for me.

Vote BO


Let us ensue the culture hunt.

IMO, the most dangerous role in a faction game is Finder. Are you claiming Finder? Because if so, you should probably be who we lynch. Just saying...

[Trake]

Sorrit, on 03 February 2017 - 07:41 PM, said:

Alkend, on 03 February 2017 - 06:33 PM, said:

Iparth Erule, on 03 February 2017 - 05:51 PM, said:

No one around to discuss? It's Friday, and I'm out. I'll try and sign in over the weekend.

I'm here and I'll be out too shortly.

I think it is worth noting that Gamelon had a vote that counted as he was the hammer. Had he not been NK'd we'd have thought he was a real boy.

Which also means the player behind Gamelon should have no more additional alts, except for the racial clockwork toy if it was BH Paladin leader.

Trake, on 03 February 2017 - 07:04 PM, said:

Since we've already killed one of the Bonehunters and they have a Paladin as their leader (a role associated with resurrection), I'm going to reveal some information I have gained.

Bek Okhan is an alt associated with the BH faction. I don't know whether it is the half gnome's puppet or one of the main alts but 2/3 odds of getting an actual player + 1/3 odd of getting the leader of an opposing faction are good enough for me.

Vote BO

Let us ensue the culture hunt.

Considering all the attention you're getting I'm not particularly inclined to believe you here. As I see it you could easily be trying to sacrifice you clockwork toy to gain either credibility, or a one more day to ressurect your fallen comrade or just for the sake of staying alive as long as possible, or all of that.

Considering you were the one saying I was Mockra's master yesterday, you can go fuck yourself. Your entire case on me was built on me being a puppeteer, but you have literally no evidence for it. I have no puppets to sacrifice and I definitely am not a faction leader, if I was I wouldn't be doing reveal on thread. My actions today have practically guaranteed that I will be targeted and/or guarded tonight.

[Trake]

Telas, on 03 February 2017 - 07:50 PM, said:

Trake, on 03 February 2017 - 07:04 PM, said:

Since we've already killed one of the Bonehunters and they have a Paladin as their leader (a role associated with resurrection), I'm going to reveal some information I have gained.

Bek Okhan is an alt associated with the BH faction. I don't know whether it is the half gnome's puppet or one of the main alts but 2/3 odds of getting an actual player + 1/3 odd of getting the leader of an opposing faction are good enough for me.

Vote BO


Let us ensue the culture hunt.

IMO, the most dangerous role in a faction game is Finder. Are you claiming Finder? Because if so, you should probably be who we lynch. Just saying...

Nope, take a look at the wording. I got into a lover conversation with someone's puppet (no idea who they actually were and which faction they are). But they knew my faction and told me which faction BO was in, that's why I say it's reliable information.

[Kessobahn]

Trake, on 03 February 2017 - 07:54 PM, said:

Telas, on 03 February 2017 - 07:50 PM, said:

Trake, on 03 February 2017 - 07:04 PM, said:

Since we've already killed one of the Bonehunters and they have a Paladin as their leader (a role associated with resurrection), I'm going to reveal some information I have gained.

Bek Okhan is an alt associated with the BH faction. I don't know whether it is the half gnome's puppet or one of the main alts but 2/3 odds of getting an actual player + 1/3 odd of getting the leader of an opposing faction are good enough for me.

Vote BO


Let us ensue the culture hunt.

IMO, the most dangerous role in a faction game is Finder. Are you claiming Finder? Because if so, you should probably be who we lynch. Just saying...

Nope, take a look at the wording. I got into a lover conversation with someone's puppet (no idea who they actually were and which faction they are). But they knew my faction and told me which faction BO was in, that's why I say it's reliable information.

That had to have been awkward.

I'm still pro Trake lynch.

vote Trake

[Trake]

Kessobahn, on 03 February 2017 - 08:49 PM, said:

Trake, on 03 February 2017 - 07:54 PM, said:

Telas, on 03 February 2017 - 07:50 PM, said:

Trake, on 03 February 2017 - 07:04 PM, said:

Since we've already killed one of the Bonehunters and they have a Paladin as their leader (a role associated with resurrection), I'm going to reveal some information I have gained.

Bek Okhan is an alt associated with the BH faction. I don't know whether it is the half gnome's puppet or one of the main alts but 2/3 odds of getting an actual player + 1/3 odd of getting the leader of an opposing faction are good enough for me.

Vote BO


Let us ensue the culture hunt.

IMO, the most dangerous role in a faction game is Finder. Are you claiming Finder? Because if so, you should probably be who we lynch. Just saying...

Nope, take a look at the wording. I got into a lover conversation with someone's puppet (no idea who they actually were and which faction they are). But they knew my faction and told me which faction BO was in, that's why I say it's reliable information.

That had to have been awkward.

I'm still pro Trake lynch.

vote Trake

Oh it was. The asshole is blackmailing me. You are also broad casting your faction.

[Alkend]

Trake, on 03 February 2017 - 07:54 PM, said:

Nope, take a look at the wording. I got into a lover conversation with someone's puppet (no idea who they actually were and which faction they are). But they knew my faction and told me which faction BO was in, that's why I say it's reliable information.

How do you know they were a puppet?

Which alt are they?

Did they initiate or did you?

They "knew" your faction. Hmm. Depending on who it is that's a 50/50 chance of guessing correctly. That's an acceptable loss too if it is a fake alt as it'd pin down your faction depending on your reaction.

They "know" which faction BO is in. BO is so obviously a fake alt. So if you got told this on D2, why didn't you NK BO N2?

Why is lynching the fake suddenly such a good idea rather than looking for the master?

What could they possibly be blackmailing you with - naming your faction on thread? Another day or two and it'll be even clearer anyway. Killing you? Better than working against your faction. Or is it

Quote

Create Thrall (Night Action) Cost - 6 AP: You take control of target player. You open a lover conversation with target player for the next day cycle, and they MUST follow your orders for the next Day and Night cycle. This means that they MUST vote for whoever you tell them to vote for during the next Day cycle, and they MUST target whoever you tell them to with their Night action during the next night cycle.

So looks like Lionel is running your show?

[Trake]

Alkend, on 03 February 2017 - 09:11 PM, said:

Trake, on 03 February 2017 - 07:54 PM, said:

Nope, take a look at the wording. I got into a lover conversation with someone's puppet (no idea who they actually were and which faction they are). But they knew my faction and told me which faction BO was in, that's why I say it's reliable information.

How do you know they were a puppet?

Which alt are they?

Did they initiate or did you?

They "knew" your faction. Hmm. Depending on who it is that's a 50/50 chance of guessing correctly. That's an acceptable loss too if it is a fake alt as it'd pin down your faction depending on your reaction.

They "know" which faction BO is in. BO is so obviously a fake alt. So if you got told this on D2, why didn't you NK BO N2?

Why is lynching the fake suddenly such a good idea rather than looking for the master?

What could they possibly be blackmailing you with - naming your faction on thread? Another day or two and it'll be even clearer anyway. Killing you? Better than working against your faction. Or is it

Quote

Create Thrall (Night Action) Cost - 6 AP: You take control of target player. You open a lover conversation with target player for the next day cycle, and they MUST follow your orders for the next Day and Night cycle. This means that they MUST vote for whoever you tell them to vote for during the next Day cycle, and they MUST target whoever you tell them to with their Night action during the next night cycle.

So looks like Lionel is running your show?

Would prefer to not reveal the alt because I don't know their faction, they claimed to be in my faction and they can also reveal my name on thread without much cost so that's the blackmail part. He also told me his alt was a sprite. I initiated conversation with the familiar.
I didn't target BO because I can get better bang out of my buck If I use my NAs for communication rather than the puny amount of damage I can do. I'm not sure BO is a fake, that's why I want them lynched.

[Sorrit]

Trake, on 03 February 2017 - 10:05 PM, said:

Alkend, on 03 February 2017 - 09:11 PM, said:

Trake, on 03 February 2017 - 07:54 PM, said:

Nope, take a look at the wording. I got into a lover conversation with someone's puppet (no idea who they actually were and which faction they are). But they knew my faction and told me which faction BO was in, that's why I say it's reliable information.

How do you know they were a puppet?

Which alt are they?

Did they initiate or did you?

They "knew" your faction. Hmm. Depending on who it is that's a 50/50 chance of guessing correctly. That's an acceptable loss too if it is a fake alt as it'd pin down your faction depending on your reaction.

They "know" which faction BO is in. BO is so obviously a fake alt. So if you got told this on D2, why didn't you NK BO N2?

Why is lynching the fake suddenly such a good idea rather than looking for the master?

What could they possibly be blackmailing you with - naming your faction on thread? Another day or two and it'll be even clearer anyway. Killing you? Better than working against your faction. Or is it

Quote

Create Thrall (Night Action) Cost - 6 AP: You take control of target player. You open a lover conversation with target player for the next day cycle, and they MUST follow your orders for the next Day and Night cycle. This means that they MUST vote for whoever you tell them to vote for during the next Day cycle, and they MUST target whoever you tell them to with their Night action during the next night cycle.

So looks like Lionel is running your show?

Would prefer to not reveal the alt because I don't know their faction, they claimed to be in my faction and they can also reveal my name on thread without much cost so that's the blackmail part. He also told me his alt was a sprite. I initiated conversation with the familiar.
I didn't target BO because I can get better bang out of my buck If I use my NAs for communication rather than the puny amount of damage I can do. I'm not sure BO is a fake, that's why I want them lynched.

Uhm, why the hell would they blackmail you if you were both in the same faction? And how would all that make it a reliable information?

[Alkend]

^this

[Trake]

Sorrit, on 03 February 2017 - 10:12 PM, said:

Trake, on 03 February 2017 - 10:05 PM, said:

Alkend, on 03 February 2017 - 09:11 PM, said:

Trake, on 03 February 2017 - 07:54 PM, said:

Nope, take a look at the wording. I got into a lover conversation with someone's puppet (no idea who they actually were and which faction they are). But they knew my faction and told me which faction BO was in, that's why I say it's reliable information.

How do you know they were a puppet?

Which alt are they?

Did they initiate or did you?

They "knew" your faction. Hmm. Depending on who it is that's a 50/50 chance of guessing correctly. That's an acceptable loss too if it is a fake alt as it'd pin down your faction depending on your reaction.

They "know" which faction BO is in. BO is so obviously a fake alt. So if you got told this on D2, why didn't you NK BO N2?

Why is lynching the fake suddenly such a good idea rather than looking for the master?

What could they possibly be blackmailing you with - naming your faction on thread? Another day or two and it'll be even clearer anyway. Killing you? Better than working against your faction. Or is it

Quote

Create Thrall (Night Action) Cost - 6 AP: You take control of target player. You open a lover conversation with target player for the next day cycle, and they MUST follow your orders for the next Day and Night cycle. This means that they MUST vote for whoever you tell them to vote for during the next Day cycle, and they MUST target whoever you tell them to with their Night action during the next night cycle.

So looks like Lionel is running your show?

Would prefer to not reveal the alt because I don't know their faction, they claimed to be in my faction and they can also reveal my name on thread without much cost so that's the blackmail part. He also told me his alt was a sprite. I initiated conversation with the familiar.
I didn't target BO because I can get better bang out of my buck If I use my NAs for communication rather than the puny amount of damage I can do. I'm not sure BO is a fake, that's why I want them lynched.

Uhm, why the hell would they blackmail you if you were both in the same faction? And how would all that make it a reliable information?

I don't know if he is in my faction or not. He never confirmed it and I don't know if it's because he didn't know or because he was away from that alt or afk.