[Itwæs Nom]

Macros, on 21 October 2016 - 10:01 PM, said:

Also.
Correct you were.

But do you really think anyone actually read all of what you posted?
Wall of quotes after wall of quotes after wall of fucking quotes. No
They
Did
Not

I did, was able to follow and it made me keep thinking that he's damn town, try it next time

[Macros]

It just glides past me, I can't focus on that stuff at all.

[Mentalist]

Bendal Home, on 21 October 2016 - 09:58 PM, said:

Mac take it as a lesson. Never rush that final day. Scum want you to. Thats why last game ad this game they fired off the first vote and you jumped on board both times. Bascally two games in a row you lost it for town.

You fell for the Dolmen vote when i told you not to.

You say verbal diarrhea but it was correct.

It wasnt wrong.

I wasn't the first vote on day 4...

[Mentalist]

Siergiej, on 21 October 2016 - 10:28 AM, said:

I love Tatts. He has an uncanny ability to express his stroke of genius in a way that will get him framed as scum

This needs to be his signature.

[Mentalist]

Vengeance, on 21 October 2016 - 07:08 PM, said:

Never mind that Mental is posting like a spazz which should indicate that he is scum or at least a symp...sigh...

Look at how much tatts posted, and how much i posted in response. Mountain, molehill.

[Dolmen 2.0]

My PM's

Spoiler

Serc, on 17 October 2016 - 03:01 PM, said:

YAY!

first Symp role in forever!

let the Wifomism flow!!!!!!!

Since I've double checked, never been an actual symp, always some spec role in high TMDI game or excessively town.

Serc, on 19 October 2016 - 07:45 AM, said:

wOW, Lio must be Maccy or Tatts.

but whoever Lio is, his scumdar is off the charts. Hope the masters sort that out. will try throw shade on him later after we get some posts in.

Mess seems to get picked out super early each game I've played. people must just know.

And they just seem to at this point.

Serc, on 20 October 2016 - 02:55 PM, said:

Well crap, sorry Kruppe.

Work crapped a ton of problems on me and I didn't get a chance to run interference. If mockra keeps me on which I think he will? I'll try make up for it and cause hell.

DAY2

Serc, on 20 October 2016 - 06:03 PM, said:

SH you guys must be doing flips right now.

No healer reveal as yet. Between Bendal and Telas I'm thinking Telas is the likely healer.

If Bendal pulls a reveal I'm roast duck.

Can only hope Bendal quietens down later into the night, one of the Lovers builds the Lynch then me and Master Mockra hammer.

In a situation with a Bendal lynch and an NK on Telas we win...It's all down to timing and the hope Master Mockra doesn't murder me.

Will be sure to stay in character till the I see a succeful CF. Just in case...

Path-Shaper, on 20 October 2016 - 06:15 PM, said:

Serc, on 20 October 2016 - 06:03 PM, said:

SH you guys must be doing flips right now.

No healer reveal as yet. Between Bendal and Telas I'm thinking Telas is the likely healer.

If Bendal pulls a reveal I'm roast duck.

Can only hope Bendal quietens down later into the night, one of the Lovers builds the Lynch then me and Master Mockra hammer.

In a situation with a Bendal lynch and an NK on Telas we win...It's all down to timing and the hope Master Mockra doesn't murder me.

Will be sure to stay in character till the I see a succeful CF. Just in case...

Uhm, you realize that Liosan was the healer right?

Serc, on 20 October 2016 - 07:18 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 20 October 2016 - 06:15 PM, said:

Serc, on 20 October 2016 - 06:03 PM, said:

SH you guys must be doing flips right now.

No healer reveal as yet. Between Bendal and Telas I'm thinking Telas is the likely healer.

If Bendal pulls a reveal I'm roast duck.

Can only hope Bendal quietens down later into the night, one of the Lovers builds the Lynch then me and Master Mockra hammer.

In a situation with a Bendal lynch and an NK on Telas we win...It's all down to timing and the hope Master Mockra doesn't murder me.

Will be sure to stay in character till the I see a succeful CF. Just in case...

Uhm, you realize that Liosan was the healer right?

That god damn post is the blind side of my existence. I don't know if it was a blessing or a curse.

I then committed to the mistake cause, made count errors, overlooked Vote/no vote changes,
the Voting order and position of the lynch in particular was hoodwinking of the highest order. I wanted it to look like I wanted Mockra with me in the no voters group.
Hoped Ment might get mileage out of that if he killed me or I got lynched.

Then it got intense:

Serc, on 20 October 2016 - 07:54 PM, said:

What am I doing?



The tension is real.

I hope they switch! Switch damn you!

Basicly tried to get Tatts to look like my master at this point.

Serc, on 20 October 2016 - 08:50 PM, said:

and my vote will have to stay even if someone places Mockra on L-1.

I REALLY hope this works.

Switch Dammit! Swiiiiiiiitch!

When Tatts removed vote I was having a party. I checked up on his voting and KNEW his voting was the place to focus on,
I had to act like I'd missed it to add drama to the "realization" he had done that on Aranatha plenty of times.

I checked if Mockra had voted on Bendal and thought AHA this is where to bury the body.

Serc, on 21 October 2016 - 11:00 AM, said:

at a certain point I start to think Mockra might seriously kill me.

It's not the logical thing to-do but maybe I'm over committing here, forcing the chances I look tooo much like town. The best kill would be one of the lovers but seriously nervous right now. I hope Mockra remains calm about this. ( '=_=)

I want to come across as Town, but it means nothing to team scum if Mockra gets lynched.

I really hope Kesso votes Bendal after his case. Gait might be onto my nonsense...

Here I thought I had Telas on the bendal train. Itwaes was looking waaay too solidly against me and I thought maybe there was a chance Khell might split the vote in my favor.

Serc, on 21 October 2016 - 06:23 PM, said:

If we win this, "Mistakes" will be the prime indicator for scum for me any day I play town.

Ultimately a good place to hide behind but I play very much like me and I've noticed people alt me quickly.
If I ever use the mistake angle again I'd be pretending to play someone else prone to mistakes...
particularly phone related mistakes... believe me/don't believe me, you were warned

Serc, on 21 October 2016 - 09:09 PM, said:

Well that's a bust.

Mockra has quite the mountain to climb.

The fact Telas flipped over to me still worked in our favor in the long run but it was a good move at the time.

Kesso and Gait read the game well and worked as a team. I think two heads are much harder to fool than one,
will keep it in mind to trust the hive mind more.

Ment then proceeded to win the game nicely.

I think I enjoyed the win more from SH with all the answers in hand.

This post has been edited by Dolmen 2.0: 22 October 2016 - 06:37 AM

[Gait]

Lover convo 1

Spoiler

Path-Shaper, on 17 October 2016 - 02:24 PM, said:

You may have offthread communications via this PM.

Kessobahn, on 17 October 2016 - 02:53 PM, said:

Hey lover, thanks for paying for that overpriced gondola ride, by the way. That was very generous of you. For that, you deserve to know my real name. No, it's not Kessobahn. It's Khell. And no, I'm not actually an heir to a old billionaire's fortune. I'm just a guy, standing in front of a...dog...thing, asking it to solve this murder mystery with him. Will you do that with me?

Gait, on 17 October 2016 - 03:03 PM, said:

We've already sorted our roles in sign up thread, you will not decieve me with the "guy" disguise. And don't forget the dog thing didn't choose it's life but you did choose to sleep with it.

Gait, on 17 October 2016 - 03:13 PM, said:

Also, that's not how you call His Highness

Kessobahn, on 17 October 2016 - 03:18 PM, said:

Gait, on 17 October 2016 - 03:03 PM, said:

We've already sorted our roles in sign up thread, you will not decieve me with the "guy" disguise. And don't forget the dog thing didn't choose it's life but you did choose to sleep with it.

I blame the canal fumes.

Kessobahn, on 17 October 2016 - 03:19 PM, said:

Gait, on 17 October 2016 - 03:13 PM, said:

Also, that's not how you call His Highness

You're right, I should just be employing more of a shrill whistle.

Kessobahn, on 17 October 2016 - 03:41 PM, said:

Shall we do some kind of code if one of us dies and the other needs to reveal? I suggest one us beginning consecutive sentences with L, V, R; and the other with O, E, S.

Or we just write 'lovers' in our signatures and see if anyone notices

Gait, on 17 October 2016 - 04:08 PM, said:

In every post?

Good idea

Btw Im usually available all Day with Random exceptions in afternoons

Gait, on 17 October 2016 - 06:49 PM, said:

What about beginning alternating(only every first post after the other one's post counts) posts with the letters? I think both Tatts and Mess did the same with consecutive setnences in last game and it's cooler this way

Kessobahn, on 17 October 2016 - 07:32 PM, said:

Cool, that sounds good. You may begin

I'm looking at Bendal Home as possible symp. That Venga Boys helping hand post could be an attempt to fake reveal lover or healer later on.

Or could be the healer, but I always suspect the worst.

[Gait]

Lover convo 2

Spoiler

Gait, on 18 October 2016 - 08:54 AM, said:

Feels too vague to be used as proof to me and I like they went for low poster instead of no poster. And, you know, it's looking for symp

No opinions yet though, I haven't even read the thread properly.

Gait, on 18 October 2016 - 09:36 AM, said:

Has Ment always been this oblivious about being altedhim or not?

Gait, on 18 October 2016 - 09:36 AM, said:

*Alted

Kessobahn, on 18 October 2016 - 09:42 AM, said:

Gait, on 18 October 2016 - 08:54 AM, said:

Feels too vague to be used as proof to me and I like they went for low poster instead of no poster. And, you know, it's looking for symp

No opinions yet though, I haven't even read the thread properly.

I'm just saying they might be one to watch. I'm not looking for symp so much as looking who they might connect to.

Kessobahn, on 18 October 2016 - 09:43 AM, said:

Gait, on 18 October 2016 - 09:36 AM, said:

Has Ment always been this oblivious about being altedhim or not?

Yeah, he doesn't care

Gait, on 18 October 2016 - 09:45 AM, said:

Telas, on 18 October 2016 - 09:02 AM, said:

Doesn't wash General, there's been nothing but bullshit posted by anyone so far.

That said I'm more interested in Aranthas snappy reply about how he would have voted if he cared.

vote Arantha

Talk to me bitch

I suspect Aranatha is KoD, he did the "if I X then I'd Y" as RI last game

Gait, on 18 October 2016 - 07:17 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on 18 October 2016 - 04:33 PM, said:

Aranatha, on 18 October 2016 - 03:34 PM, said:

Telas, on 18 October 2016 - 02:27 PM, said:

Neener neener Arantha

Don't compound your error with gloating.

It's not scummy, but it is unbecoming.

Errornatha!

Did you come up with this deliberately or was it coincidentaly starting with an "e"?

Kessobahn, on 18 October 2016 - 07:43 PM, said:

Deliberate of course I could have used a regular word like 'every' or 'enough' but why not be creative?

Gait, on 18 October 2016 - 08:01 PM, said:

Yeah nice one

Kessobahn, on 19 October 2016 - 12:10 PM, said:

Told you that Bendal Home would be trouble

[Gait]

Lover convo 3

Spoiler

Gait, on 19 October 2016 - 01:20 PM, said:

Is it Tatts?

Kessobahn, on 19 October 2016 - 02:19 PM, said:

Not sure yet. Could have kept relatively quiet yesterday because it was his birthday and he was elsewhere.

Gait, on 19 October 2016 - 07:33 PM, said:

I can't find anything/anyone who seems scummy to me, it's usually the opposite problem

alting guesses

Mockra - Ment

Bendal - Tatts
Aranatha - KoD
Liosan - Macros

Serc - Siergiej
Telas - Dolmen

not sure about the last two, also not sure about the "talk to me bitch" by Telas

Gait, on 19 October 2016 - 07:39 PM, said:

I'm thinking Bendal is RI Tatts but I recall watching a game before I started palying where Tatt's was scum and got to the end without being seriously called out even once because he was playing his usual spammy shit flinging to spammy case building to spammy thread anylising game

Gait, on 19 October 2016 - 07:41 PM, said:

Lio says in what time will he be back or do soemthing onthread a lot

Gait, on 19 October 2016 - 07:49 PM, said:

Gait, on 19 October 2016 - 07:41 PM, said:

Lio says in what time will he be back or do soemthing onthread a lot

Macros did it a lot in the game where he was scum with Kitsu and significantly less in the last game where he was RI

Gait, on 19 October 2016 - 07:56 PM, said:

Aight Taranathula is acting weird. Possibly the healer trying not to get NKed?

Kessobahn, on 19 October 2016 - 09:02 PM, said:

Re Aranatha I doubt it as they initially said they would sacrifice themselves for Omtose, as Omtose might turn out to be roled...although I wonder why they didn't follow through with that.

Re Liosan: That's an interesting thing to keep looking out for.

You're starting to spam the thread in that way you do sometimes when your name is mentioned. Makes you look guilty. I'd advise reining it in a little

Kessobahn, on 19 October 2016 - 09:08 PM, said:

I think Telas is Macros, as they voted for Aranatha for a misreading. Last game Mac said that's the kind of confusion he always looks for scum doing (as he always does it himself when scum ).

Gait, on 19 October 2016 - 09:28 PM, said:

Fair point about Aranatha, agree about Telas being Macros, travelling fits too, I was going off mainly shitty internet and later soccer but I think both Sierg and Dolmen watch soccer too and anyone can have shitty internet

It probably makes me look guilty because it makes me feel a bit guilty coupled with not posting whole day at all and it forces me to sit down and reread thread and concentrate and try to do something useful, but I'm off to bed anyway. Really don't know who I like for scum. We will have to reveal the next day if today's lynch won't go well right? Good night

This post has been edited by Gait: 22 October 2016 - 12:08 PM

[Gait]

Lover convo 4

Spoiler

Kessobahn, on 19 October 2016 - 11:32 PM, said:

Looks like you'll be getting lynched unless I reveal to save you...but even then, there'll be a question over whether it's a fake reveal until they see one of our CFs. Hmmm.

Kessobahn, on 19 October 2016 - 11:48 PM, said:

Though obviously I disagree with Lio's vote on you, I do think they might make a good point about Serc's post.

Gait, on 20 October 2016 - 05:04 AM, said:

If both lynch and NK get townies there's possibly parity tomorrow, I don't know if it ends the game with a symp and healer around but I don't believe there's a solid chance for getting different lynch the regular way because of what Ment said Tatts tied me to a good couple of players in the case

And I really don't like that last Sercs response to you

Gait, on 20 October 2016 - 05:11 AM, said:

I was dismissing Serc because I thought they're Sierg who does the kind of posts that Lip called them out on regularly

Gait, on 20 October 2016 - 09:46 AM, said:

Goddamit Khell I need you here this is going to shit

Kessobahn, on 20 October 2016 - 09:55 AM, said:

I'm here. Do you want us to reveal?

Gait, on 20 October 2016 - 09:59 AM, said:

Yeah I think I do. It will make suspect pool for other townies smaller if they believed us. Good thing is healers still alive that gives us hope

Kessobahn, on 20 October 2016 - 10:02 AM, said:

Normally I wouldn't do it until one of us died, but you're right, the danger is too great that there could be parity tomorrow if you're lynched.

Go ahead and reveal!

Gait, on 20 October 2016 - 10:23 AM, said:

I'd have made it more interesting and played the favour games but I'm quite busy and in haste atm

Kessobahn, on 20 October 2016 - 02:03 PM, said:

Come on man, get back on the thread and help us find the last killer!

Think it's got to be either Serc or Mockra. Both have reasons not to be however.

This post has been edited by Gait: 22 October 2016 - 12:09 PM

[Gait]

Lover convo 5

Spoiler

Gait, on 20 October 2016 - 02:32 PM, said:

here reading up

Gait, on 20 October 2016 - 03:35 PM, said:

do you think Serc's a symp? killer would probably know who were they targettinh at nighit. And something very similar to this happened to you in the game where Venge owned you after that incident. I want to hear what they say about others

Gait, on 20 October 2016 - 06:19 PM, said:

I can imagine Mocrka as symp voting Aranatha yesterday to gain credibility today but he's not even around now

Kessobahn, on 20 October 2016 - 06:31 PM, said:

I have no memory of this game of which you speak wherein I made a terrible error. It must have never happened.

.....

It's interesting isn't it. I want to take a close look at all Aranatha's posts, and then also the votes from the last day. At the moment I'm leaning more toward Bendal being scum over Telas in that particular argument. But obviously we mustn't ignore Serc and Mockra also.

I do tend to believe that was a genuine mistake by Serc regarding Liosan, which would suggest that they are not the killer. Interesting though given how much Telas shout about mistakes being scum tells that he wasn't all over that.

Gait, on 20 October 2016 - 06:56 PM, said:

Watching Venge picking you apart was immense fun

It looks like everyone on thread is leaning towards BH being scum, if he was scum shouldn't symp be acting against it right now?

Gait, on 20 October 2016 - 07:03 PM, said:

Anyone know how to hide dead alts' contnent? Mess are you there?

Gait, on 20 October 2016 - 07:18 PM, said:

I checked the Tatt's scum game I was talking about earlier (126.5 Wolf in Sheep's clothing) and he did the quotes there quite like he is strating to do now, but there was way more of useless ones and irrelevant ones and filler and nothingness and all that, he posted mroe content and told us more of his thoughts this game imo

Gait, on 20 October 2016 - 07:18 PM, said:

Bendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 07:14 PM, said:

Mockra, on 18 October 2016 - 10:31 PM, said:

Omtose got 3 votes for not playing.

As much as I always relish the prospect of removing dead weight early, the Aranatha and KF votes should be looked at more before doing that.

I should be able to vote later on the way home now, need to to look @ a house in 30 min.

Does he look into those votes further?

Questions like this one were also included though

Gait, on 20 October 2016 - 07:24 PM, said:

He was also acting as not being sure who is who and was looking at everything and alternating his suspects and then becoming more and more convicned X is scummy

Gait, on 20 October 2016 - 07:26 PM, said:

But he was viewed as likely town (by you, especially)

This post has been edited by Gait: 22 October 2016 - 12:09 PM

[Gait]

Lover convo 6

Spoiler

Gait, on 20 October 2016 - 07:28 PM, said:

I don't think Telas ignoring Serc's msitake is outstanding because that was the kind of the mistake that killer should not do in the first palce

Gait, on 20 October 2016 - 07:45 PM, said:

Telas has been playing polar opposite of his last scum performance, Tatt's style is very similar to his scum performance in the aforementioned game but I can get behind most of Tatt's logic easily, I haven't read the case of his yet properly, I'm not hesitating if I should get high before reading it because my brain is a tangled mess right now and I'm worried about my sanity

Path-Shaper, on 20 October 2016 - 07:54 PM, said:

Gait, on 20 October 2016 - 07:03 PM, said:

Anyone know how to hide dead alts' contnent? Mess are you there?

It's in the profile settings, Profile / Manage Ignored Users

-Mess

Gait, on 20 October 2016 - 07:55 PM, said:

Thank you

Kessobahn, on 20 October 2016 - 09:20 PM, said:

Okay first off, could you stop pointing out here all the bad decisions and readings I've made in past games please

Second, at the moment the most interesting thing I see from the latest batch of posts is Serc doing his best to avoid the question of why he isn't voting for Bendal.

Kessobahn, on 20 October 2016 - 09:21 PM, said:

But having said that, I still want to read through before making any decisions.

Kessobahn, on 20 October 2016 - 09:22 PM, said:

Also also, IF Bendal does turn out to be scum, let's remember that you were the one who thought Tatts town and I was saying let's watch him from day 1

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 05:03 AM, said:

Serc is avsolutely acting weird today, he claims being convinced that both Bengal and Mockra are scumm, so given what Bendals doing to Mockra he'd have to be the killer

Yeah allright but I don't think remembering my bad decisions is worth it, it'd just be another one on the pile

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 07:50 AM, said:

Bad thing about lynching symp is you will probably get NKed which won't even be a lead because probably anyone would NK you at this point, and this will be even wmore tangled mess tommorow

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 07:51 AM, said:

Anyway whoever the killer and symp are they are playing really good game

[Gait]

Lover convo 7

Spoiler

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 08:01 AM, said:

What I was trying to say whennI was talking about his previous scum game was that everyone considering him Towny meant his play probably really was more than resembling his town play which this could be. But his behaviour fits that game's scun Tatts profile, but it's like his content is on new level, it's because I can follow his thoughts and understand it I keep hesitating about him being scum

Kessobahn, on 21 October 2016 - 08:39 AM, said:

His ideas about Serc being Mockra's symp are nonsense, frankly. In fact, I don't know why both him and Telas are obssessed with labelling Serc a symp and working everything off that.

You know who does work as a symp? Bendal for Serc. After we revealed, he kept saying he was down for voting for Serc like us, but might we maybe pretty please consider Mockra as an alternative?

On the other hand, Mockra IS the killer (no symp in this scenario). When the votes started turning on to Aranatha, they tried to move us onto Liosan instead before jumping on to hammer Aranatha at the very end.

Which do you think is more likely - Serc or Mockra?

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 08:52 AM, said:

I can't dismiss Serc as Mockra's symp because Bendals right we just wouldn't vote that easily, and it would have to mean Telas would have to be Aranathas symp which is way more unlikely.

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 08:53 AM, said:

If Mockra is a killer their symp has to be either Serc or Bendals

I think I have the symp fever too

Kessobahn, on 21 October 2016 - 09:01 AM, said:

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 08:53 AM, said:

If Mockra is a killer their symp has to be either Serc or Bendals

I think I have the symp fever too

Or the symp was one of Omtose, Eloth, or KF and is dead! No one alive definitively HAS to be the symp and thinking that way is trapping us into a few limited boxes. Yes, the symp could be alive, but ultimately that shouldn't matter: We should be finding the killer through their own words and actions.

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 09:04 AM, said:

Yeah you're right it works the other way around too, shouldn't assume he's dead but nor that he's alive

Kessobahn, on 21 October 2016 - 11:46 AM, said:

It's all getting very complicated isn't it?

I'm not sure I can see Serc as scum anymore. I don't think my particular scenario works because of the points I outlined in the 'against' section of the Serc/Bendal case. On top of that, Serc is either playing ignorant very well, or they genuinely are constantly missing key details, like the fact that Liosan died, or the fact that Bendal removed his vote from Mockra.

So does that just leave Mockra? If it was me that had come up with it only, I would be voting there now. But Bendal pushing SO strongly for a Mockra vote earlier but now being like, "well, whatever, Mockra OR Serc," is super annoying.

Should I be giving more consideration to Telas and Bendal? I don't know.

I'm going to read through the entire thread. Again. Might also look specifically at Liosan's posts, try and work out why they were chosen for the NK.

Kessobahn, on 21 October 2016 - 12:54 PM, said:

What do you think about this? Liosan was the one who most talked about both Aranatha and Mockra being suspicious before our reveal.

It was also after he intimated symp for Mockra, and then Mockra took it a step further, and then after that that Aranatha voted for Mockra on the basis of them being a symp (rather than voting for someone you think is a killer).

Could this be why Liosan was taken out?

Liosan, on 19 October 2016 - 06:56 AM, said:

Ye, Mockra got it right.

Mockra and Aranatha seem to be all over the place. Not a bad thing in itself, but warrants a deeper look, well, because there is something to look at. Eloth is probably verging a modkill, not good. Will pop in in a couple of hours to see how are things, but probably will be able to offer anything more substantial in the evening.

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 01:57 PM, said:

Maybe only mention about of killers(Aranatha) would be sufficient to become an NK target

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 01:57 PM, said:

Busy for a while

[Gait]

Lover convo 8

Spoiler

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 03:55 PM, said:

I can see Serc killer Mockra symp possibility but I wanna hear what Mockra's decision will be andw anna check something else too. I don't think Bendal's Serc's symp, I liked your case on Mcokra better.

Kessobahn, on 21 October 2016 - 04:10 PM, said:

Yes, I had dismissed Bendal symp/Serc killer before I had even posted that case, but I wanted to see what the reactions would be. Would anyone try and latch on to it? Still trying to get a read on Mockra's latest posts.

Btw, I haven't really dismissed Serc as potential killer, but again I wanted to see what was said.

Kessobahn, on 21 October 2016 - 04:29 PM, said:

The problem with analysing Bendal is that he has so few posts pre-our reveal. Or is that in itself something to think about?

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 04:45 PM, said:

If Mockra goes after Bendal then Bendal being the killer would very probably require symp to be dead making this situation not a D-day.So if this situation occured we would know we can lynch the second one if thread was undecided between two options and still probbly have tommorow if the other one wasn't the killer?

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 04:48 PM, said:

There certainly is desperation to Tatts play but I can't tell if it's scum desperation after victory or a townie trying desperetaly hard to get it right

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 04:53 PM, said:

I can't make up my mind

as of now

BH - suspects Serc+Mockra
Mockra - suspects BH/Serc
Serc - suspects Mockra+BH
Telas - suspects BH/Serc

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 04:58 PM, said:

ACtually, nope, I don't think Mockra is a symp, that's not much of a symp play he's doing this day, concentrating most of his effort only on himself

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 05:00 PM, said:

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 04:58 PM, said:

ACtually, nope, I don't think Mockra is a symp, that's not much of a symp play he's doing this day, concentrating most of his effort only on himself

And hesitating between the other two obvious choices whole day

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 05:09 PM, said:

I can't help but feel like it's Serc or Mockra

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 05:11 PM, said:

I don't recall playing a M&P as tangled as this is before

[Gait]

Lover convo 9

Spoiler

Kessobahn, on 21 October 2016 - 05:12 PM, said:

Yes, as I read through I remember why I had townied Bendal earlier. So swinging back to Mockra/Serc and having blind faith that it's not Telas

Kessobahn, on 21 October 2016 - 05:13 PM, said:

So everyone apart from Serc has Serc in their suspect pool. Should that tell us something?

Kessobahn, on 21 October 2016 - 05:15 PM, said:

And yes, this is one of those games where everyone in SH is going "duhhhhh, how can they be so dumb? It's sooooo obvious!!"

Oh wait, that's every game.

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 05:16 PM, said:

Serc's votes today just seem plain stupid and nonsensical but he just doesn't seem to give a shit about any rationality. Serc should be Dolmen right? Right his recent scum play was brilliant and that's what kinda doesn't fit. But it was brilliant to an extent he wasn't suspected at all and under no pressure whole game, maybe he can't hold up against the whirling shitstorm.

Kessobahn, on 21 October 2016 - 05:25 PM, said:

But you know what continues to bother me? Bendal's stupid Venga Boys post, and his stupider explanation for it. And the fact that Mockra replied to the post with another song called 'Bad Touch' and taking about hearing it TWO times.


UGH. Paranoia at full flow.

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 05:40 PM, said:

The first could be explained as being Tatts, he does weird shit

I don't find Mockra's responses any outstandingly scummy but they're mostly self-centered and he's still waiting. But I think Ment is the kind of player good at keeping the same tone and style no matter what his role/allingment is.

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 06:16 PM, said:

I think it's Mockra. There I said it.

Kessobahn, on 21 October 2016 - 06:22 PM, said:

Excellent. So for what reasons?

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 06:33 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on 21 October 2016 - 06:22 PM, said:

Excellent. So for what reasons?

Mockra's replies to anything are solid, but that's what he seems to be mostly doing whole game - responding. I had pegged him as likely town in Buffy game where he was recruiter with symp knowledge of his master because his style and tone were just like they usually are, but he seemed quite excited about being recuiter(found out later in SH) and symp and thus was more over the place trying to drive the thread way more today, but he's not really been under serious pressure for a while and the thread is going the way that would be acceptable to him at the moment.

No I'm still not sure. Serc's continuing ignorance and weirdness is...weirding me out. But it keeps reminding of Blend in the game Venge...you...cough cough....ripped bodies and blood spraying everywhere....cough cough...

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 06:35 PM, said:

Serc, on 21 October 2016 - 06:32 PM, said:

Say for example Aranatha and I are Killers with open comms. To use them we need to sync times right? at the very least we should be attentive to each others situation.

Whats Aranatha doing for me when the pressure builds towards me and what the hell am I doing for him when the pressure builds on him?

There are scores of unlikely scenario cases running around and he comes with arguments like this? Look atht he fucking thread, this means so so very little.

[Gait]

Lover convo 10

Spoiler

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 06:45 PM, said:

BH doesn't have much credibility now does he? If Mockra was Serc's symp he would certainly not vote Serc only to fuck with BH, he should be killer/inno if he votes for Serc.

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 07:09 PM, said:

pre-reveal Serc fits killer profile nicely

post-reveal weird shit starts happening

Kessobahn, on 21 October 2016 - 07:13 PM, said:

Agree 100% Doss weird shit start happening because killer starts panicking?

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 07:20 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on 21 October 2016 - 07:13 PM, said:

Agree 100% Doss weird shit start happening because killer starts panicking?

Seems like Serc does have busy days and this thread is a shitstorm, they probably did not expect our reveal and with all that coupled might jsut have lost gripm of the thread

I think I'm leaning towards Serc being the killer because it requires less stretches than MOckra being one and is just the simpiest solution.
Town Dolmen in the last game felt more engaged than he does now

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 07:25 PM, said:

Do you still don't think it's Bendal?

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 07:34 PM, said:

Looks like the rest of thread is after Bendal

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 07:45 PM, said:

Mockra, on 21 October 2016 - 07:05 PM, said:

Bendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 02:10 PM, said:

Wow.

Nice one. I was doubting myself there.

I do wonder why they chose Liosan, they should have gone for one of the lovers. In my head, I had one of you guys as the healer as well as lovers, as I was a guard a few games back similarly. I only mention it now as the healer is dead.

Mockra, Telas or Serc.

Telas has only focused on Aranatha all game, and was unwilling to change even on this d day.

Mockra labelled Aranatha as a possible symp

Not sure if Serc was suspicious of Aranatha or not.

Oh, God, how did I miss this?

Who the F talks about NKs?

Wow, really, BH? Couldn't help yourself and keep it to spoilers?

Maybe because he doesn't really care and only found it now when it was convenient?

Kessobahn, on 21 October 2016 - 07:55 PM, said:

Hah, yes, maybe. I'm still reading through while watching a film. I really can't make a decision yet. I think, as you say, the simplest solution is likely the best one.

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 07:56 PM, said:

Serc seems to have found his ground when Bendal is now in highlioght

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 08:21 PM, said:

Yeah I think it's Serc

If we want to have a lynch different from Tatts (I do) we should do it before rest of our timezone goes to bed

[Gait]

Lover convo 11

Spoiler

Kessobahn, on 21 October 2016 - 08:33 PM, said:

Okay, put down your vote. I just want to finish reading but I will vote the same way as you (unless there's the unlikely event I find something new in my tenth look over)

Kessobahn, on 21 October 2016 - 08:44 PM, said:

What do you think about Serc's reaction?

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 08:48 PM, said:

Serc, on 21 October 2016 - 08:39 PM, said:

I don't know what to say. Disappointed I guess. genuinely just...wow.

nothing more to add since Mockras gonna hammer any second now.

wow.

Pressure occured and he fucked something up yet again

I'm not sure but It doesn't feel paritcularly towny

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 08:50 PM, said:

If he is scum he must be pretty well aware now that the fuckups hled him afloat even if they were genuine in the beginning

Kessobahn, on 21 October 2016 - 09:02 PM, said:

My final thinking is: If it's Dolmen, he's not as silly as Serc seems to be.

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 09:02 PM, said:

Right exactly

Kessobahn, on 21 October 2016 - 09:11 PM, said:

It all seemed like it was gonna be so simple right after Aranatha was lynched

If it's not the end and I die, good luck man!

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 09:20 PM, said:

Certainly simplier than this

Thanks will need it, I'd wish you the same but I doubt whoever the killer is would kill me

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 09:26 PM, said:

Who do you think?

[Gait]

My PM when I'm at it...

Path-Shaper, on 17 October 2016 - 02:23 PM, said:

You are part of a lover pair. You and your lover, Kessobahn, may have offthread communications via a separate PM that I have opened for you.

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 09:28 PM, said:

I still don't believe Tatts is scum

pass pelase?

Gait, on 21 October 2016 - 09:29 PM, said:

Only reason I can think of why am I dead is that I went after Mockra over Bendal while Khell didn't really choose either of them over the other on thread

[Mentalist]

I bring you, the dark side of spoilerz:

killer convo, pt1 Introductions

Spoiler

Path-Shaper, on 17 October 2016 - 02:17 PM, said:

You may have offthread communications and submit your night kills via this thread.

Mockra, on 17 October 2016 - 02:48 PM, said:

Hey, partner, Ment here.

Looking forward to killing these sheep with you.

Mockra, on 17 October 2016 - 02:52 PM, said:

Our biggest threat are the lovers. Hopefully, they try coding and we might be able to catch them with that.

.... that idea kind fell by the wayside...

Aranatha, on 17 October 2016 - 03:05 PM, said:

Hi, ment. Kruppe here. Came straight to these pms. haven't checked the game topic at all yet. going now to see these lovers and sheep we're up against.

Aranatha, on 17 October 2016 - 03:14 PM, said:

oh, yeah. I couldn't alt worth shit last game, and I doubt my skills are going to improve anytime soon.

Aranatha, on 17 October 2016 - 03:17 PM, said:

You're in Pacific time zone, right? I'm on the East Coast. Three hours difference shouldn't be a bother for us.

Mockra, on 17 October 2016 - 03:18 PM, said:

Nope, i'm in T.O., so Eastern zone as well.

I generally don't play from home much though, so I'm usually done by 6 PM.

Aranatha, on 17 October 2016 - 03:27 PM, said:

T. O.? Is that alligator country? Does alligator poop float?

Mockra, on 17 October 2016 - 03:37 PM, said:

T.O. is Toronto, Ontario. So no gators here, they don't deal with the weather well.

I would assume their feces still float, though.

Aranatha, on 17 October 2016 - 03:40 PM, said:

I'm rooting for Cleveland...

We were doing twice teh banter of everyone else,

This post has been edited by Mentalist: 22 October 2016 - 03:41 PM

[Mentalist]

Pt 2-darker, srs talk, and alt-guesses

Spoiler

Aranatha, on 17 October 2016 - 03:51 PM, said:

Hmm. Read the Symp description. The Symp is scum, but is unaware of our identities. Is that correct? They are independent and want to get rid of everyone else?

Aranatha, on 17 October 2016 - 04:13 PM, said:

Mockra, on 17 October 2016 - 04:01 PM, said:

Nope, symp knows us, we don't know them. And they CF as RI, so no way of knowing when they die.

Basically, if the symp lives he counts towards our VC. Once there' 6 people left and the symp is alive, we win.

But realistically, it's not anything we can reliably factor into our game plan.

So why doesn't the symp contact us to avoid being night killed?

And so i didn't factor one in. Sorry-not sorry, Dolmen, since it worked out better!

Mockra, on 17 October 2016 - 05:04 PM, said:

Aranatha, on 17 October 2016 - 04:32 PM, said:

Mockra, on 17 October 2016 - 04:15 PM, said:

Symp has no off-thread comms. They might try "signalling" us on thread, but no guarantees they'll do it. Or that we'll catch it.

Or that it's really the Symp and not an RI or Lover trying to catch us out. I see.

I imagine fake symping would be useful to try to avoid night kill, but it would also invite day lynching.

Yup. Not to mention all the "you brought up the symp, because you ARE the symp" cases.

How incredibly... prophetic of me. I think this is what gave kruppe idea for his case

Aranatha, on 17 October 2016 - 08:31 PM, said:

Serc, on 17 October 2016 - 03:08 PM, said:

FOURTH AH AH AH AH

AH AH, rather than HA HA. This is how the French/Belgians (and presumably French Canadians) type laughter. Any ideas on a possible ID?

Mockra, on 17 October 2016 - 08:37 PM, said:

Well, Blend is from Ottawa but he's modding...

Beyond that, ionno anyone else that's French-speaking.

Dolmen is a Saffer, I believe. Do Africaaners do the same type of laugh thing?

It would appear they do, but I lost that alt-guess later.

Aranatha, on 17 October 2016 - 08:41 PM, said:

I have no idea. Nor do I know if it's a French language specific thing. I just know that every French speaker of my acquaintance without exception uses AH AH.

Aranatha, on 17 October 2016 - 09:58 PM, said:

Bendal Home, on 17 October 2016 - 08:58 PM, said:

Why not

vote omtose

Macros? Seems to fit his *ahem* precipitate style.

Kinder words than I'd use, lol

Mockra, on 17 October 2016 - 11:39 PM, said:

I dunno, I'm not sure Maccy would start talking about Venga boys all of a sudden.

Aranatha, on 18 October 2016 - 01:05 PM, said:

I'm already drawing unwanted attention. Bluster may not be the way to go...

I much prefer being RI. Lying is not my forte.

Mockra, on 18 October 2016 - 02:51 PM, said:

Most common mistake when playing scum is saying things that "sound like town". Because when you ARE town, you just assume them, and don't bother saying, b/c it's a given.

The one vote is not too much problem yet. Just find someone else to latch on to for saying the obvious. It's Day 1, and there's really no much to go on.

I went to bed @ 3 AM last night b/c I was preparing for a hearing, so I probably won't be on much today.

some words of wisdom on how I usually catch scum.