[Mentalist]

Part 3- where the hunt for Tatts begins, and Mess' fate is sealed

Spoiler

Aranatha, on 18 October 2016 - 03:43 PM, said:

Omtose is racking up votes. I'd hate to see him/her lynched without even the chance for chiming in. that's what happened to me at the end of the last game.

More importantly, we should decide soon on a night kill. If the day ends in a sudden flurry of votes we'll lose it.

Of course, if I get lynched I would be partial to a Telas kill in the selfish interest of revenge. However, i doubt he/she is a Lover or Healer. They're likely laying low and wouldn't drop an initial vote on anyone.

What say you?

Aranatha, on 18 October 2016 - 03:50 PM, said:

Nevermind. I thought Omtose had 3 votes, but it's just 2.

Mockra, on 18 October 2016 - 03:54 PM, said:

Hrm, need to read thread over and see if I can spot Tatts. He's not pinging my radar with senseless WIFOM talk. Meaning he likely has a role, and needs to be killed.

Mockra, on 18 October 2016 - 04:03 PM, said:

Telas sounds like Maccy.

Serc is a young-ish player- Nom?

Bendal, and Kesso are the most "game-minded" so far. There's a Khell or a Messremb, or a Tatts in that mix.

I think I'd be inclined to take out Kesso first, b/c Bendal is not looking at you.

Mockra, on 18 October 2016 - 04:26 PM, said:

Aranatha, on 18 October 2016 - 04:18 PM, said:

Mockra, on 18 October 2016 - 04:15 PM, said:

Aranatha, on 18 October 2016 - 04:03 PM, said:

Tatts was on as Tatts early yesterday morning so is likely among the early birds in the thread..

Yeah, could be KF (?) That player's a bit cagey

I was thinking the same. Even added KF's name to the tail end of my last post before I removed it and hit send.

You want to make that our prov action? I won't be on @ 10, because i'll be swimming, but you can confirm it.

That same cageyness later made me think I we murdered our symp

Aranatha, on 18 October 2016 - 04:39 PM, said:

Sounds good to me. Kill Kadagar Fant unless lynched. Then Kill Kessobahn

Mockra, on 18 October 2016 - 06:58 PM, said:

I endorse this

Aranatha, on 18 October 2016 - 07:55 PM, said:

LOL! If Kadagar Fant IS Tattersail, we will have killed him on his birthday! That strikes me as so... so... so scummy! Yeah.

Path-Shaper, on 18 October 2016 - 08:14 PM, said:

Aranatha, on 18 October 2016 - 07:22 PM, said:

Aranatha, on 18 October 2016 - 04:39 PM, said:

Sounds good to me. Kill Kadagar Fant unless lynched. Then Kill Kessobahn

Okay, is this legit procedure, PS? I'm new at this and don't want to lose our kill over some n00b scum protocol failure.

Yep, that's perfect!

Usually in instances of paired killers I ask that you both agree that the other can make changes to that when you're not around in case something happens that makes you need to change your kill for whatever reason (like if you find out that the guy you guys had agreed to target may likely be your symp, for example, or you find out that a different player is a roled town that you'd rather get rid of than the person you've agreed on), but that's up to you guys!

If you don't do the above, I'll take whatever the last action you guys agreed on is.

Aranatha, on 18 October 2016 - 08:20 PM, said:

I'm perfectly okay with Ment overruling me at any time if circumstances make it advisable. And by "advisable" I mean whenever he feels like it.

This post has been edited by Mentalist: 22 October 2016 - 03:08 PM

[Mentalist]

Part 4: The lynch and the distancing:

Spoiler

Aranatha, on 18 October 2016 - 11:41 PM, said:

Jeez, I'm burying myself here! LOL! I'll be surprised if Omtose himself shows up and doesn't cast a vote for me!

Mockra, on 19 October 2016 - 02:24 AM, said:

Aranatha, on 18 October 2016 - 11:41 PM, said:

Jeez, I'm burying myself here! LOL! I'll be surprised if Omtose himself shows up and doesn't cast a vote for me!

you will possibly get pressure for refusing to vote Omtose so passionately, and then hammering.

It gives you a chance to try the "you guys were saying I was symping him, but I clearly wasn't and voted him to prove it" card.

Lio might be back on my case tomorrow for "signalling" gait... but if anything that'll put pressure on Gait.

Mess is a good person to remove. Kesso should be next still, I think.

Mockra, on 19 October 2016 - 11:19 AM, said:

Given our spectacular failure to get noticed, I wouldn't be surprised if Gait is our symp, lol

Mockra, on 19 October 2016 - 06:42 PM, said:

You should now make a case on someone. Preferably not Lio.

If all you do is defend, people will be looking at you funny.

note how I fail to follow my own advice later on!

Aranatha, on 19 October 2016 - 07:01 PM, said:

Liosan's post is the only one whose focus is solely on me. They came in super late on day one, screaming and hollering and that was about it. Why not Liosan?

Aranatha, on 19 October 2016 - 07:13 PM, said:

Mockra, on 19 October 2016 - 07:08 PM, said:

Because I already made a mini-case on him. People are already saying we're both "all over the place", and if we start attacking the same person, and then one of us dies, the association will be obvious. We need to diversify.

Edit: also, I address his "attack" on you. We need a least 2 other players to agree with me that Lio is suspicious before it's "safe" for you to jump on. /edit

You might want to consider making a case on me, actually. I'll probably try to take it apart with vitriol, but for the rest of the thread it'll look like we're going at each other, so less likely to be scum partners, even if one of us is lynched in the fallout.

Lol! the thought had crossed my mind. I have to go out for a bit. I'll see what i can come up with when I get back.

This ended up working out much, much better than anyone'd have expected.

Mockra, on 19 October 2016 - 08:40 PM, said:

You are catching heat. And your secret admirer (Telas) is back.

Aranatha, on 19 October 2016 - 08:45 PM, said:

LOL! but he is again conspiring against himself because he's not touching on anything tangible. Though you may get your OMGUS wish! I keep blundering due to not fully understanding rules you all take for granted but to which I am not yet used to.

Mockra, on 19 October 2016 - 08:48 PM, said:

It's ok, you're not doing too bad. I've seen many other noobs crash and burn by this point.

You should vote someone though. Just removing from me can be read for what it is: a distancing attempt, by one of the better players.

Mockra, on 19 October 2016 - 10:58 PM, said:

It would be best if you stay off this train. Hammer tomorrow morning, if it's still going, but don't follow my vote right now.

Are we killing Kesso? I'm starting to get a very Tatts-y vibe from Bendal...

Aranatha, on 19 October 2016 - 11:20 PM, said:

haven't seen the latest crop of posts yet. I was planning to lay low for a good while. I leave the specific kill to you. Bold someone and I'll endorse your choice. Numbers are getting where we're likely to get someone good. Give a long think to who the Healer is likeliest to protect, though.

Mockra, on 20 October 2016 - 03:58 AM, said:

Aranatha, on 19 October 2016 - 11:29 PM, said:

Weren't you leaning toward Gait being our Symp? Knocking him out makes it harder to win sooner.

I dunno who our symp could be, we can't risk being wrong- if we rely on someone, and they turn out to be RI who just happened to hink what we said was logical.. it can have really bad consequences.

Moreover, we can use Bendal's lovely case to subtly steer the thread towards Liosan, who is really annoying me right now.

Aranatha, on 20 October 2016 - 04:42 AM, said:

Mockra, on 20 October 2016 - 03:59 AM, said:

Kill Kessobahn

if lynched, kill Bendal Home

i agree to the above. ^^

and off to bed we went, not realizing (well, I didn't- I think Kruppe probably did), that this was D-day, and dark clouds were gathering over in GMT-land....

This post has been edited by Mentalist: 22 October 2016 - 03:14 PM

[Mentalist]

Part 5: revelations, shock, confusion, dissolution

Spoiler

My eloquent reaction hitting the thread @ 7:30 AM to see the lovers' reveal

Mockra, on 20 October 2016 - 11:37 AM, said:

Well, fuck.

Decisions need to be made:

Mockra, on 20 October 2016 - 11:56 AM, said:

Btw if they do decide to lynch me, you need to hammer me.

possible defences hastily erected:

Mockra, on 20 October 2016 - 01:24 PM, said:

Hah, I gotta dance around the Gait vote, b/c the real reason is, I failed to realize today was D-day (the modkill threw me off).

I don't know if BH is symp or not, I would not rely on it.

Kesso and Gait are PIs and have to go. But the healer is out there and will be heling one of them. This means we get a 50-50 shot at winning if we target them (and I don't die)

change kill to Telas



Why? Because lmost everyone I convinced his "no fucks given" attitude is town. Therefore, he's he's hardly gonna be lynchable.

desperation mounting:

Mockra, on 20 October 2016 - 01:36 PM, said:

Talk to me pardner! They're looking @ you now as the low-hanging fruit for a lynch.

frantic action:

Mockra, on 20 October 2016 - 01:43 PM, said:

Fuck...

change kill to Liosan

Desperate action:

Mockra, on 20 October 2016 - 01:48 PM, said:

Had to do it, couldn't let Serc come back and hammer- that would've made it even harder to pull through.

Hope you understand.

Mockra, on 20 October 2016 - 01:58 PM, said:

change kill to BH

He wants me dead. Lio might look @ Serc. I can maybe sell Serc as scum trying to distance from Arantha by playing L-3

I think I meant to write Lio here- he put Kruppe @ L-3.

But it was not to be:

Path-Shaper, on 20 October 2016 - 01:58 PM, said:

Mockra, on 20 October 2016 - 01:58 PM, said:

change kill to BH

He wants me dead. Lio might look @ Serc. I can maybe sell Serc as scum trying to distance from Arantha by playing L-3

Sorry, day timed out before you got this order in, so I'll have to use the kill on Liosan.

Mockra, on 20 October 2016 - 01:59 PM, said:

Lol. One of the 2 is a healer. Which one?

Serendipity to the rescue!

Mockra, on 20 October 2016 - 02:01 PM, said:

Lmao. That worked out well.

This post has been edited by Mentalist: 22 October 2016 - 03:21 PM

[Mentalist]

Part 6: the lonely aftermaths

Mockra, on 20 October 2016 - 02:14 PM, said:

Rather then second-guessing the healer, I eliminate the healer.

Still, this leaves 3 VPIs. I'm pretty fucked.

Serc is probably my symp, so he's gonna be sacrificed. Unless maccy comes back and jumps on Bendal. Oh, that would be nice, but unlikely.

I lost this thread of thought early on in Day 3.

And then Aranatha came back, but I couldn't respond anymore:

Aranatha, on 20 October 2016 - 02:50 PM, said:

Agreed. Kill Bendal Holm haven't looked in topic yet. *shudders*

Aranatha, on 20 October 2016 - 02:51 PM, said:

Shit. didn't see this page of PMs. who are we killing? Still haven't seen game topic.

[Mentalist]

The darkest spoilerz of them all: (my role PM)

My post not to the lover convo, but initial reaction to the reveal:

Mockra, on 20 October 2016 - 11:48 AM, said:

Fuck, I didn't realize it was already D-day. Fucking modkill threw me off.

I can't defend now, b/c it'll be obvious I'm scum.

Start of Day 3:

Mockra, on 20 October 2016 - 03:04 PM, said:

Reflection time (beyond the obvious "I played like shit")

I'm no good under pressure. Could I have avoided giving up my partner? Maybe, given Serc fucked off for the end of the day, we could've pulled off a no-lynch.

But the risk was, Gait (or Serc) coming back to hammer. And me sitting pretty not voting for... no reason. Then I'd be dead meat for sure. Now I got Kesso wavering, which may buy me time.

If I tried to push for a lynch and failed, i'd look like scum going for the kill. Given the most likely target was Serc, who may be our symp, that would've left me dead man walking, with Maccy maintaining his hard-on for Kruppe. Lose-lose.

So I kinda HAD to distance. To have a shred of a chance left.

Mockra, on 20 October 2016 - 03:26 PM, said:

Serc is either batshit insane verging on Brilliant, or he just blew any chance of making it to the last 4.

My reaction to the case on dead Lio

Mockra, on 20 October 2016 - 03:28 PM, said:

I mean, making elaborate case on the dead healer? That's Khell-level play right there.

Prov kill is

Kessobahn btw.

He likes me, but he liked Bendal, too. And I many need to get nasty with Bendal.

Mockra, on 20 October 2016 - 05:04 PM, said:

ZOMFG, did I really convince Maccy I'm less scum?

Now, let's watch Tatts' rebuttal...

Mockra, on 20 October 2016 - 05:11 PM, said:

Hmm.

if Bendal is lynched, NK Gait

If anyone else is lynched, NK Kessobahn

Kesso looks @ me like a common denominator, but at least he talks so I can read his suspicions (it's Khell, ain't it?)

Whereas Gait (Dolmen?) I have no insight on, and that's worrying.

My thinking is all kind of muddled.

Mockra, on 20 October 2016 - 05:48 PM, said:

Oh, that response by Bendal was pure gold. Couldn't have asked for better.

Now we need to get input from the lovers.

This was where Tatts makes the "I'm at L-2 with 1 vote. REMOVE!!!" error. And I KNOW that Maccy's radar is going off the charts on him.

Then Serc votes me:

Mockra, on 20 October 2016 - 07:29 PM, said:

Hahaha.

My symp is dead. I'm so screwed. Lol.

Mockra, on 20 October 2016 - 08:02 PM, said:

Expanding on the above: was Mess our symp? Did we murder him night 1? Oh, the potential irony.

Ah, i'm too bemused to be terrified. I fucked this game with the Gait vote, not realizing it was in fact d-Day. My, my.

And then it was Friday....

This post has been edited by Mentalist: 22 October 2016 - 04:18 PM

[Mentalist]

continued diaries of a desperate killer:

Mockra, on 21 October 2016 - 11:42 AM, said:

Fascinating discussion to read this morning. People taking their sweet time to dissect every little thing I did or did not do.

Thing is, I genuinely AM busy (and starving- no food before blood test) this morning.

So, back to lurking to let them stew some more.

Mockra, on 21 October 2016 - 04:50 PM, said:

At some point, i'll probably go for the low-hanging Bendal fruit. Leaving for the weekend on D-day with 8 hours to go? Tsk-tsk.

Not yet, though.

On an abso-fucking-unlikely chance Serc is my symp (look at that, BH is starting to convince me!), that'll be it.

If not, i'll have an uphill struggle to symp the shit out of Serc to get him deaded.

Mockra, on 21 October 2016 - 06:10 PM, said:

So, how many times did ppl in spoilers moan "why didn't they lynch Mockra yet?"

Mockra, on 21 October 2016 - 06:30 PM, said:

Fuck youuuuu, Tatts!


Coming back just as I was gonna make my push, grumble grumble.

Mockra, on 21 October 2016 - 07:24 PM, said:

Yes, Tatts, take your toys away and go home.

Just remember: you asked me to go "scum-hunting"

Mockra, on 21 October 2016 - 08:32 PM, said:

Oh, noes. Maccy is drinking

Cue spanner in the works in

3


...




2..



1...


I'm scared

Also, i'm back to thinking Serc is no symp and I'm fucked regardless.

And then I decided the best strategy for appeasing Maccy was to keep voting Tatts no matter what:

Mockra, on 21 October 2016 - 08:52 PM, said:

Miiiind games, fuck yeah!

I'm thinking I should make it a stalemate and leave.

Both lovers like Bendal. Bastards. NK Gait

I'm not winning, but my enemies shall burn!

Mockra, on 21 October 2016 - 09:19 PM, said:

SUSPENSE FOR THE SUSPENSE GOD!!!!

Muahahaha, let them squirm...

Then I honest-to-god, got off at the next subway station, voted Tatts, ALMOST got on the train, then realized I didn't put in a kill.

So i left the train, rushed back to get signal and wrote..

Mockra, on 21 October 2016 - 09:40 PM, said:

Kill Telas

This post has been edited by Mentalist: 22 October 2016 - 03:38 PM

[Mentalist]

Ok, now I want to hear Tatt's and Maccy's side of the story,

This post has been edited by Mentalist: 22 October 2016 - 04:59 PM

[Mentalist]

Macros, on 21 October 2016 - 09:55 PM, said:

Tatts.
I can't seem to go a game without lynching town Tatts. Stop looking for fucking scummy.


Well played Ment and Dol, I just couldn't tie you two together in my head, Dol following tatts was superb. Ment knew he had me on board,I was practically a second symp for him

Fucking fuck.

Had Kruppe bang to rights. I'm taking the silver lining. Don't try and stop me

We should start a club!

[Dolmen 2.0]

Interesting read Ment and Kruppe, you guys had a real dynamic going.

Learning alot about alting here.

For the record that AH AH AH AH was me imitating Count von Counts transylvanian accent?

I'm more of a He he he he guy (low pitch, not high).

No Afrikaner accent to speak of, originally malawian. My family tends to switch R's and L's a lot.

If I need a laugh I ask my mum and dad to try say Rumpelstiltskin.

[Kruppe of Darujhistan]

Yeah, that AH AH construction jumped out at me. Not knowing anyone well enough to make educated alt reads, I just thought it was worth mentioning to Ment to see if it would help him ID you. Which it kinda did, if only coincidentally.

It's pretty funny now, but I really did feel terrible when I came on after I got lynched to see a dozen PMs from Ment, each one a bit more desperate while I was sawing logs and waking up late. Don't think it would have been much different had I been around though, and might have quite possibly worse. I was flustered just reading all those posts and any participation i may have accomplished would have been in vain.

[Path-Shaper]

Telas:

Telas, on 17 October 2016 - 02:30 PM, said:

must do better than last time

Telas, on 18 October 2016 - 09:50 PM, said:

If aranatha is scum, gait is his symp or partner.

Telas, on 20 October 2016 - 07:08 PM, said:

Either I've struck gold, or Bendal is just massively eratic town.

Either way, his attack on me is............baffling.

Ok lets say I was actually a killer and paired with Arantha, and we were going to claim lovers.

None of my play against Arantha lends itself to that, "flirty posts" what the fuck is that even supposed to mean? I called him on a tell that's well known to be something I pick out, and don't let off on it. and lets face it, everyone alts me day one. If bendal is town, he needs to back off the crazy pills, he's pulling a.....well he's pulling a macros.
If he is scum (and I think he is team dirtbag) then he's really going about his defense all wrong.

Telas, on 20 October 2016 - 09:48 PM, said:

Hnmmmm.what if serc is the killer, mockra his symp. And serc is playing bendals symp to fucking draw me into further fucking the town over.

Dare I follow the crazy theory down the rabbit hole?

There's a logical conclusion here where we lynch serc. Mockra/bendal does not jive.
But then if serc is the symp, it's ri, and we're back to NO YOU tomorrow.
Going to read mockra in iso

Telas, on 20 October 2016 - 09:57 PM, said:

Fuck it.
Mockra dropped the 3/4th vote on Arantha, symp wouldn't(shouldn't) do that.
Can't really be symp.
Bendal serc going for him today, they can't be his symp.
Unless one of our modkills/mess was the symp, in which case, well we got hard fucked by bad luck, it's a bendal/serc show.

Im willing to take the blame if this goes tits up.
And give serc motm for not voting bendal.

Telas, on 21 October 2016 - 10:24 AM, said:

Am I over thinking this again?

Telas, on 21 October 2016 - 06:21 PM, said:

gait and kesso need to step back and let mockra drop his vote.

I think it will be on BH.

I'm starting to think Serc is the killer, Mockra the symp.

Telas, on 21 October 2016 - 06:29 PM, said:

I've talked myself into a vicious circle/corner in my head.

This is abysmal play from myself again, theres just so much shite posted by Bendal I can't be arsed to wade through it again, if he's town he needs slapped for that spew.

Telas, on 21 October 2016 - 06:38 PM, said:

Blargh.

No, I'm swinging back to Bendal.

New logic, symp is dead.



or I've been swallowed by a worm hole and spat back out with half my brain missing.

fuck this, just tempted to vote and walk away.

Telas, on 21 October 2016 - 08:17 PM, said:

Mockra just drop a fucking vote so I can vote too and go to bed.

[Path-Shaper]

Telas, continued:

Telas, on 21 October 2016 - 08:26 PM, said:

man I want to vote Bendal soooo bad.

but Serc, serc could just as easily be the killer.

if mockra is the killer I will just retire.

I'm really starting to feel a serc vote, HURRY UP AND ACT MOCKRA!

Telas, on 21 October 2016 - 08:31 PM, said:

this is brutal, someone else come in a drop a vote, I dont want to be that guy two games in a row.

last time I felt HP and didn't stick with it, I went off and follow crazy macros down the fucking rabbit hole.

Have I done the same again here? Am I fucking myself over with the symp thoughts, is the symp already dead?
Forget the symp Mac
Who is the killer.

BH

thank you for support in this trying time PS

Telas, on 21 October 2016 - 08:33 PM, said:

if he is town, let this be a fucking lesson.

That is not how to operate as town on D-Day, you spammed the thread, threw shit everywhere and pissed everyone off.

Telas, on 21 October 2016 - 08:35 PM, said:

holy shit.

finally the lovers move, is kesso there?
has Mockra been fucking with me the whole time, is he sercs symp?

damnit man vote before kesso does.

Telas, on 21 October 2016 - 08:45 PM, said:

It's serc.
Mockra is his symp.

Telas, on 21 October 2016 - 08:55 PM, said:

I shouldnt have told mockra I thought he was the symp.
He's stalling, pretending he wants to vote Bendal? Going to hammer serc?
Or is he playing a long game and wants me to think he is Bendals symp?

Either way he's the symp.

Gait needs to shush and mockra needs to vote

Telas, on 21 October 2016 - 09:14 PM, said:

If this is bendal rubbing it in.
I'm going to fucking shriek.

Telas, on 21 October 2016 - 09:30 PM, said:

Fucking fucking fuck.

Fuck

Fuck

Telas, on 21 October 2016 - 09:30 PM, said:

F
U
C
K

[Kruppe of Darujhistan]

That's entertainment!

[Blend]

Thanks to everyone who copied over their PMs - I was gonna do it over the weekend, but I got lazy, so I didn't do it...

[Tattersail_]

My only PM seem as I had it all on thread.

Bendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 09:35 AM, said:

For me I wanted to lynch Kesso today but I'm holding that one back.

Telas and Aranatha are lovers I think and is why I am not even looking in that direction.

One of Mockra, Lio and Gait is scum.

So I have Aranatha, Telas, Serc on my town lean so far.

Mockra, Lio, Gait and Kesso on my scum read so far.

I need a cf for further clues.

This was early day 2.

[Kruppe of Darujhistan]

Blend, on 24 October 2016 - 03:46 AM, said:

Thanks to everyone who copied over their PMs - I was gonna do it over the weekend, but I got lazy, so I didn't do it...

Don't see any Liosan Healer PMs, or are they posted and I just overlooked them?