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Mafia 135 - Game Thread Murders on the Canals of Venice

#481 User is offline   Bendal Home 

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 03:59 PM

That was a cross post but I was on the phone.

#482 User is offline   Bendal Home 

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 04:00 PM

Enjoy your weekend. I am gone.

#483 User is offline   Serc 

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 04:00 PM

Thanks Kesso, Thanks Telas.

My current thoughts align with Bendal Home for killer. There's alot to support this and no player apart from him has said anything that discredits the inconsistencies.

I'm pretty certain Telas is town. I've observed enough to have a read for him in that role.

Mockra is scum based off my own knowledge I am town. As stated before if he's the killer it would surprise me, again he has not once Voted Bendal. the logic flipped on me applies here aswell.

#484 User is offline   Mockra 

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 04:04 PM

View PostBendal Home, on 21 October 2016 - 03:58 PM, said:

Kesso I think you need to confer off thread with Gait.

Mockra makes sense in his replies, but he still has done no scum hunting as far as I can see. Serc neither, their votes do not seem to have any work behind them.

I wish I could see how you can put anyone in the town bracket.

Aranatha's vote of Mockra is fucking weird. I do not understand it.

Serc's post after day one lynch is pro Aranatha



I guess I'd just be re-hashing a lot of things I have already said. I'm not going to push to persuade you or anyone else.

With Serc's reactions and voting today I think I have caught scum. He has turned from bumbling idiot (liosan's death) to pulling up exact quotes to when he needs them. His suicidal altruistic lynch me approach on d day and his about face today has me sold.

I am not going to remove from Serc, I think its him.

Maybe I'd have more time for that, if I didn't have to spend 90 minutes at a time explaining myself to your wall 'o text barrages? Ever think of that?

:unsure:

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 04:19 PM

I personally would argue my famous misnomer was me making three cases on my three likeliest scum. two of which were BH and Mockra. I may not have been hunting Aranatha but look which two of my three picks are here now?

They weren't dumb cases, players paid attention to BH as a result. I was ignorant and inattentive, yes. I had a work load, don't misrepresent that as stupidity. the two are mutually exclusive. I've played smartly and I think BH is carefully picking when not to acknowledge that.

#486 User is offline   Mockra 

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 04:36 PM

I've narrowed it down to 2 points.

Serc: the whole "Lynch me Day 2" + then the "case on dead Lio" thing- was this a very clever act, or genuine mistakes? These aberrant behaviours are what worry me above everything else.

Bendal: ignoring his activity spike when the clock was ticking down, his "God, no, take your vote away, I'm at L-1" early in Day 3 (when he "thought" it was 3 to lynch") just REEKS of desperation.

I'll ruminate which I find more suspicious over lunch.

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 04:55 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 19 October 2016 - 01:53 AM, said:

It is Day 1. 53 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: Aranatha, Bendal Home, Eloth, Gait, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Liosan, Mockra, Omtose, Serc, Telas

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

6 Votes for Omtose ( Bendal Home, Serc, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Mockra, Aranatha )
1 Vote for Gait ( Liosan )
1 Vote for Kadagar Fant ( Gait )
1 Vote for Aranatha ( Telas )

Players not voted: Eloth, Omtose


Omtose has been lynched. She was Lady Bliss and a Roleless Innocent.



If we dismiss Telas, then Omtose's lynch had both killers on it. Aranatha last, second killer...where?

#488 User is offline   Mockra 

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 05:00 PM

View PostKessobahn, on 21 October 2016 - 04:55 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 19 October 2016 - 01:53 AM, said:

It is Day 1. 53 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: Aranatha, Bendal Home, Eloth, Gait, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Liosan, Mockra, Omtose, Serc, Telas

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

6 Votes for Omtose ( Bendal Home, Serc, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Mockra, Aranatha )
1 Vote for Gait ( Liosan )
1 Vote for Kadagar Fant ( Gait )
1 Vote for Aranatha ( Telas )

Players not voted: Eloth, Omtose


Omtose has been lynched. She was Lady Bliss and a Roleless Innocent.



If we dismiss Telas, then Omtose's lynch had both killers on it. Aranatha last, second killer...where?

Is that a trick question? Any answer anyone gives would be wifom.

#489 User is offline   Telas 

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 05:02 PM

I find the pairing of mockra/Arantha unlikely given their positions on the train

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 05:04 PM

View PostMockra, on 21 October 2016 - 05:00 PM, said:

View PostKessobahn, on 21 October 2016 - 04:55 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 19 October 2016 - 01:53 AM, said:

It is Day 1. 53 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: Aranatha, Bendal Home, Eloth, Gait, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Liosan, Mockra, Omtose, Serc, Telas

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

6 Votes for Omtose ( Bendal Home, Serc, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Mockra, Aranatha )
1 Vote for Gait ( Liosan )
1 Vote for Kadagar Fant ( Gait )
1 Vote for Aranatha ( Telas )

Players not voted: Eloth, Omtose


Omtose has been lynched. She was Lady Bliss and a Roleless Innocent.



If we dismiss Telas, then Omtose's lynch had both killers on it. Aranatha last, second killer...where?

Is that a trick question? Any answer anyone gives would be wifom.

If you thought it a possiblity to be one why didn't you leave it alone and wait for scum to be possibly trapped?

#491 User is offline   Mockra 

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 05:12 PM

View PostGait, on 21 October 2016 - 05:04 PM, said:

View PostMockra, on 21 October 2016 - 05:00 PM, said:

View PostKessobahn, on 21 October 2016 - 04:55 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 19 October 2016 - 01:53 AM, said:

It is Day 1. 53 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: Aranatha, Bendal Home, Eloth, Gait, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Liosan, Mockra, Omtose, Serc, Telas

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

6 Votes for Omtose ( Bendal Home, Serc, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Mockra, Aranatha )
1 Vote for Gait ( Liosan )
1 Vote for Kadagar Fant ( Gait )
1 Vote for Aranatha ( Telas )

Players not voted: Eloth, Omtose


Omtose has been lynched. She was Lady Bliss and a Roleless Innocent.



If we dismiss Telas, then Omtose's lynch had both killers on it. Aranatha last, second killer...where?

Is that a trick question? Any answer anyone gives would be wifom.

If you thought it a possiblity to be one why didn't you leave it alone and wait for scum to be possibly trapped?


Because I hate wifom in all forms, in every single game? Half of my games start with me calling someone (usually tatts) scum for Day 1 wifom speculation. It's almost like reflex now.

Beyond that, there's 2 PIS, one VPI, one guy who left for the day, me, and Serc. I'd expect an answer from Telas (which we got), and possibly you, tbh. I wouldn't be able to use Serc's answer as a "trap"- because it'd fit with his "too ignorant to be scum"-like play.

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 05:59 PM

View PostTelas, on 21 October 2016 - 05:02 PM, said:

I find the pairing of mockra/Arantha unlikely given their positions on the train


This but also this:



How Day 1 Lynch finished.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 19 October 2016 - 01:53 AM, said:

It is Day 1. 53 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: Aranatha, Bendal Home, Eloth, Gait, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Liosan, Mockra, Omtose, Serc, Telas

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

6 Votes for Omtose ( Bendal Home, Serc, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Mockra, Aranatha )
1 Vote for Gait ( Liosan )
1 Vote for Kadagar Fant ( Gait )
1 Vote for Aranatha ( Telas )

Players not voted: Eloth, Omtose


Omtose has been lynched. She was Lady Bliss and a Roleless Innocent.


VS How Day 2 lynch happened.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 20 October 2016 - 01:37 PM, said:

It is Day 2. 18 minutes remaining

8 Players still alive: Aranatha, Bendal Home, Gait, Kessobahn, Liosan, Mockra, Serc, Telas

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Serc ( Gait, Bendal Home ) - Bendal
1 Vote for Telas ( Aranatha )
2 Votes for Aranatha (( Telas, Liosan ) +kessobahn, +Bendal )Lynch -Bendal, +Bendal, Mockra

Players not voted: Kessobahn, Mockra, Serc


To me a simple question of Would scum distance on Day 1 and slip up on a Panic hammer Day 2

or

Would scum rapid fire Day 1 and "miss" the hammer Day 2.

The Day 2 train being what it was the flurry is telling.



Edit: added a + to last Bendal and reddened Lynch for clarity

This post has been edited by Serc: 21 October 2016 - 06:02 PM


#493 User is offline   Gait 

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 06:03 PM

The D2 lynch happened like this:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 19 October 2016 - 01:53 AM, said:

It is Day 1. 53 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: Aranatha, Bendal Home, Eloth, Gait, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Liosan, Mockra, Omtose, Serc, Telas

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

6 Votes for Omtose ( Bendal Home, Serc, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Mockra, Aranatha )
1 Vote for Gait ( Liosan )
1 Vote for Kadagar Fant ( Gait )
1 Vote for Aranatha ( Telas )

Players not voted: Eloth, Omtose


Omtose has been lynched. She was Lady Bliss and a Roleless Innocent.


View PostPath-Shaper, on 20 October 2016 - 01:37 PM, said:


8 Players still alive: Aranatha, Bendal Home, Gait, Kessobahn, Liosan, Mockra, Serc, Telas

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

1 Votes for Serc ( Gait) - Bendal
1 Vote for Telas ( Aranatha )
5 Votes for Aranatha (( Telas, Liosan ) +Kessobahn, +Bendal -Bendal, Mockra, +Bendal Lynch

Players not voted: Serc


Edit: added 1st day lynch quote and underlined Serc too while we're at it

This post has been edited by Gait: 21 October 2016 - 06:06 PM


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Posted 21 October 2016 - 06:06 PM

Actually, the Aranatha train was this:

Telas, Liosan, Kesso + Bendal, -Bendal, Mockra, +Bendal (lynch)

BH technically hammered. Make of that what you will, but I'm highly irritated by his "vote, remove, then vote again to hammer" antics there.

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 06:06 PM

Xpost.

#496 User is offline   Telas 

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 06:10 PM

For me I view it thus-

Least likely to be killer but strong possibility of symp - Mockra
Most likely to be killer/symp - serc
Most likely to be killer but no chance of symp - Bendal.

I'll be voting before signing off this evening, but won't rush into it because, well, that didn't end well last time

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 06:10 PM

View PostMockra, on 21 October 2016 - 06:06 PM, said:

BH technically hammered. Make of that what you will, but I'm highly irritated by his "vote, remove, then vote again to hammer" antics there.


BH hasn't given explanation for that has he? It's been pointed out three times or more I think now

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 06:12 PM

Bit under 8 hours to go. Crunch time!

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 06:13 PM

I don't think Mockra is symp because he just can't get off the fence and has been rather self-ceneterd today. I think he'd have to be yours symp if he was one.

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 06:13 PM

@Telas - killer category because I missed the Aranatha lynch and missed the kill on Lio in a way too convenient?

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