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Mafia 135 - Game Thread Murders on the Canals of Venice

#421 User is offline   Serc 

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 10:14 AM

View PostGait, on 21 October 2016 - 09:53 AM, said:

View PostSerc, on 21 October 2016 - 09:23 AM, said:

View PostBendal Home, on 21 October 2016 - 09:14 AM, said:

View PostSerc, on 20 October 2016 - 12:55 PM, said:

View PostKessobahn, on 20 October 2016 - 12:46 PM, said:

Partway through reading and I think I have my list of suspects cut in half (including myself and Gait). I get (mostly) town vibes from Telas' posting, and I see Bendal as a symp at worst. I think the two killers are within: Aranatha, Liosan, Mockra, and Serc. So 50% chance of hitting killer by lynching one of them. Gonna try to narrow it down further.

Edit: deleted "don't" from 'I get mostly town vibes...'


this I can agree with. If we vote me out that gives you a 60% chance on the remaining.

I can get behind this thinking.

Edit: Check on my maths 66.6 % percent chance. either way good odds to play.


Suicidal Serc strikes again, what's the idea of him trying to be a sacrifice?


Clarity.


Did the D-day not bother you?



Sure did.

View PostSerc, on 20 October 2016 - 09:30 AM, said:

View PostBendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 09:26 AM, said:

The thing is, I could really vote for Liosan to see what they're on about or Mockra for their turnabout. I haven't really thought of Serc as scum but could be blindsided by what has developed on thread so far.

One thing is, you seem to be deflecting attention away from Liosan, and they seem to be attacking Liosan.


But Lio voted on him...why would he deflect for Lio?

I feel I'm missing something here?


View PostSerc, on 20 October 2016 - 09:57 AM, said:

Still on trying to sort this all out but right now I think I'm gonna

Remove vote

Anyone know how much time is left?


That's me realizing the cost of the vote.

View PostSerc, on 20 October 2016 - 10:54 AM, said:

View PostBendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 10:51 AM, said:

You thinking this is D day?

If so I think Mockra or Lio might be a better choice.


I'd actually think you're the one to watch. Honestly have no read of where your allegiance lie. just realizing that now.


Me getting back in the game.

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 10:28 AM

I'm thinking I have no real way of looking non-scum because I'd be arguing against every aspect of my play. unlike bendal I'm not panicking. this is out of my hands. Scum has keyed in on my absence on the Aranatha vote and my connections to Aranatha and Mockra in a Quote. Bendal has been highlighting and re-highlighting this over and above Bendals own signal case which was a set up for a Role reveal. Please look at the two together and tell me where the logic leaves you.

I can say all I want here but the fact is my words are going to be seen as sowing confusion.

My Vote should tell you clearly what I think of the other two plyers. Please just make your decision on the facts and either lose us the game circling back to me or win the game with a vote on the player playing the Killer role in this deadlock situation.

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 10:32 AM

Let me hit you with this then serc.
If Mockra is the killer. Who would you say was his symp?
Why are you unwilling to vote Bendal despite your continued suspicion of him?

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 10:38 AM

Okay guys, I'm going to present two options to you. Bendal, if you're around, I would appreciate it if you didn't multi-post until I'm done. Although I'm presenting two possible scenarios, I think personally I may have made up my mind already. One is mostly based on a person being a symp, the kind of scum-hunting which I dislike and which I think we've seen way too much of this game (scum hunting should primarily based on that own person's words and deeds, not what someone else may or may not have said about them)...but here you go, I'm a hypocrite.

The second case is based upon a reading of the suspect. Both cases are based on play at the end of day 2, after Gait's reveal, when scum had to think and scramble quickly to adapt to the new situation.

The first case scenario is Serc as killer, with Bendal Home as his symp. Observe:


Gait votes for Serc, the second vote for Serc after myself. Bendal responds with this:

View PostBendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 09:26 AM, said:

The thing is, I could really vote for Liosan to see what they're on about or Mockra for their turnabout. I haven't really thought of Serc as scum but could be blindsided by what has developed on thread so far.

One thing is, you seem to be deflecting attention away from Liosan, and they seem to be attacking Liosan.



Serc then removes their vote (it had been on Liosan at this point). Possibly in preparation to place it on Gait, who was looking the likeliest lynch at the time.

View PostSerc, on 20 October 2016 - 09:57 AM, said:

Still on trying to sort this all out but right now I think I'm gonna

Remove vote

Anyone know how much time is left?



Gait and I then reveal, and the game changes. Bendal says he will look at Serc (he doesn't really apart from summarising who they've mentioned/replied to), but at the same time suggests looking in other places also.

View PostBendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 10:40 AM, said:

Thank you. As time is running down, and after the reveal we need a new direction. I'm going to look at Serc as you both have voted that way, yet it may be prudent to vote someone with more connections.



Bendal continues along the theme of moving votes on to someone else:

View PostBendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 10:51 AM, said:

You thinking this is D day?

If so I think Mockra or Lio might be a better choice.



I've cut out the wall of text and quotes from the post below. Here Bendal loses his temper with Serc after Serc questions his methods. "Why can't you see that I'm trying to help you, you moron", possibly.

View PostBendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 11:27 AM, said:


[snip]

Serc, everyone BUT Kesso and Gait should be fucking looked at. kesso points out that WCS this is D day, so we have to look at everyone and try and look for a partnership. We have under 3 hours to go you moron.



I ask which partnership is more likely, Mockra/Serc or Liosan/Aranatha (obviously now wrong on those partnerships). This is Bendal's response, downgrading Aranatha, but he does mention Serc (with Mockra). Of course, he would have had little choice but to name one of the scum, if it's Aranatha and Serc, as I've put them in separate groups here.

View PostBendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 01:17 PM, said:

The more active I'd say. Both Mockra and Serc are here right now to influence, Aranatha's absence is worrisome but for both scum to miss end of d day? Highly unlikely. With count down beginning I fear we may not get a lynch.


Bendal then goes through his vote, remove vote, vote again phase on Aranatha, during which Mockra comes on and hammers. Could be argued that he didn't foresee someone crossposting another vote and thus lynching Aranatha.

Okay, so that scenario where Serc is the killer is mostly based on what might look like Bendal trying to get Gait and I off voting Serc. It is successful...but then Aranatha gets picked instead.



Now, here, during the same phase, I want to put down the posts which ARGUE AGAINST Bendal being a symp for Serc and Serc being a killer.

First of all, it must be pointed out that Bendal DOES vote for Serc at one point, putting Serc on L-2 before I quickly remove my vote. In addition, though with some dithering, Bendal did also vote for Aranatha.

The caveat on this particular vote is that Bendal does say in it, "I would prefer Mockra though."

View PostBendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 10:45 AM, said:

View PostGait, on 20 October 2016 - 08:49 AM, said:

From my pov it looks like setting Lio up for the next day. Thanks Bengal something just clicked to me.

I really don't like Sercs response to Kesso. Asking for "advice" and being willing to discuss their standing out? I'm just thinking wtf is it. And then vote the for Lio. I'd say it looks towny but, not going with the flow when they could so easily, and going for the most likely target to be lynched tomorrow when I cf town. I think Serc and Mockra are scum setting up Lio. Smooth Serc most likely a killer.

Vote Serc


Fair enough. let's run with this.

Vote Serc

I'd switch to Mockra if others would prefer him.



Next, Serc suggests looking at Bendal next if they are lynched. Now, if Serc were to CF killer, what would be the point of saying this here? He'd know we wouldn't listen seriously to anything they had said, so the only point I can see to naming someone is for shits and giggles.

View PostSerc, on 20 October 2016 - 10:51 AM, said:

Ok well looks like curtains for me then.

Too bad, thought I was onto something with the Mockra/Gait/Lio mix.

Then things got confusing, Lovers included. Town still seem to have a good springboard. will cheer for you guys from SH. Hope my CF helps you zero in on scum. the Bendal flip is a bit of a surprise to me so I'd start there.



Serc does it again here.

View PostSerc, on 20 October 2016 - 10:54 AM, said:

View PostBendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 10:51 AM, said:

You thinking this is D day?

If so I think Mockra or Lio might be a better choice.


I'd actually think you're the one to watch. Honestly have no read of where your allegiance lie. just realizing that now.



Finally, there's also this (though Bendal does contradict themselves with their stance on Aranatha being away later). Bendal questions whether Aranatha might be scum keeping quiet. At this point, this is not leading off of anything, as we hadn't yet seriously started considering Aranatha. So why would a symp bring up their master like this?

View PostBendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 11:58 AM, said:

Other than that first quote by Serc on Mockra which is talking about Canals there is little to no interaction between them. Aranatha has been unusually quiet today, scum holding their breath? I'll be back after lunch, in an hour. Pondering things.



So what's the verdict here? Does the evidence against outweigh the evidence for?

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 10:40 AM

Okay, I'll put up my second case scenario now.

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 10:51 AM

View PostTelas, on 21 October 2016 - 10:32 AM, said:

Let me hit you with this then serc.
If Mockra is the killer. Who would you say was his symp?
Why are you unwilling to vote Bendal despite your continued suspicion of him?


Mockra as killer would lead to Bendal as symp.

I would be floored by that result because all the evidence points the other way but maybe that's the long angle they're playing?

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 11:03 AM

My second scenario is that Mockra is the killer. I have no symp in mind for this and, frankly, it's not relevant to the case whether there is or is not a symp.


So Gait and I reveal. Mockra is one of those who has a vote and Gait, and promptly removes it.

View PostMockra, on 20 October 2016 - 11:35 AM, said:

Well, this changes everything

remove vote



If anyone should be questioning why they are here (someone suggested they wouldn't be back in time - Bendal?), they clear that up, making sure we understand that there should be no suspicion as to why/how they've now shown up.

View PostMockra, on 20 October 2016 - 11:41 AM, said:

Incidentally I did say the day times out right before I get to work (still home now...) so I was fully intending to come back before timeout



Bendal's already pointed this out - Mockra explains why Aranatha's not around.

View PostMockra, on 20 October 2016 - 12:06 PM, said:

View PostBendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 11:58 AM, said:

Other than that first quote by Serc on Mockra which is talking about Canals there is little to no interaction between them. Aranatha has been unusually quiet today, scum holding their breath? I'll be back after lunch, in an hour. Pondering things.

Aranatha's posting times suggest he's in NA. It's barely 8 Am here.

Trying to get a read on this before I hit the subway andlose signal. I ought to be I for the last 30 mins before timeout at least



Prods gently towards Serc here.

View PostMockra, on 20 October 2016 - 12:08 PM, said:

My honest feeling about Serc yesterday was "hmm. A list. Scum love lists". But that did not seem strong enough to warrant a vote.



Prods gently towards Bendal here.

View PostMockra, on 20 October 2016 - 12:16 PM, said:

:unsure: yes, I can see that. My eyebrow is raised quizzically upon his sudden verbiage as well.

The above was my response to his post implying I was distancing from you.



Possible distancing from Aranatha here (but also gently prodding towards Liosan at the same time).

View PostMockra, on 20 October 2016 - 01:17 PM, said:

View PostKessobahn, on 20 October 2016 - 01:10 PM, said:

Unless there's been some pro distancing going on (always possible), the partnerships that I can see are:

Liosan and Aranatha
Mockra and Serc

So which pair is scummier?

Fun fact: both Lio and Aranatha tried to start smth with me at some point.



Prods gently towards Telas here. Again, if looking at Mockra as the killer, we might see some distancing going on from Aranatha here too. And if we are going with the Mockra/Aranatha scenario, they certainly have distancing history from earlier in the game with Aranatha's voting shenanigans.

View PostMockra, on 20 October 2016 - 01:27 PM, said:

Telas taking the obstinate view worries me, tbh. With 8 people around, it'd take everyone minus scum to lynch. WCS still 3 scum, so Telas refusing to budge from Aranatha could be a subtle symp hint maybe? Gah, i'm getting paranoid.



Liosan asks for vote count and timer. Mockra doesn't bother checking the time left but is quite aware that there are now two votes on Aranatha.

View PostMockra, on 20 October 2016 - 01:33 PM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 20 October 2016 - 01:30 PM, said:

Okay, that was a very quick read. There was no counter on the reveal and that would be ballsy/insane to bet on that if scum, so I trust Kesso and Gait are lovers. This leaves Aranatha and Mockra as the most scummy people on my list, I'm okay with vote of any of those, leaning towards Aranatha myself.

Serc also appeared on my radar. As said previously, nothing particular, but the general posting style reeks of coasting dressed up as contributing. But that's weaksauce. I had Bendal on my PI list, but the amount of WIFOMING he's been delivering this day is way over the top. Symp or scum?

That said, I need to get back to work :| Will put my vote on Aranatha and will be checking the thread, but can't really post much. What's the vote count and timer?

vote Aranatha

You just made it 2 on Aranatha



Gently trying to dissuade me from following Telas on to an Aranatha train.

View PostMockra, on 20 October 2016 - 01:35 PM, said:

View PostKessobahn, on 20 October 2016 - 01:31 PM, said:

View PostMockra, on 20 October 2016 - 01:27 PM, said:

Telas taking the obstinate view worries me, tbh. With 8 people around, it'd take everyone minus scum to lynch. WCS still 3 scum, so Telas refusing to budge from Aranatha could be a subtle symp hint maybe? Gah, i'm getting paranoid.



I'm actually kind of tempted to follow Telas' instincts on that - that misread by Aranatha was pretty odd.

I have a general policy of not trusting Telas' gut. It (the gut, not the policy) has led me astray waaay too many times.



Not-so-gently saying we should suspect Liosan instead.

View PostMockra, on 20 October 2016 - 01:42 PM, said:

MY gut is screaming "Liosan". But I admit I might be biased since responding to his "sanity-checking" is what started this whole issue.



Before finally voting after me in a cross-post with Bendal Home (possibly when seeing that the writing was on the wall). They thought their vote would have put Aranatha on L-1 but in fact it turned into the hammer.

View PostMockra, on 20 October 2016 - 01:44 PM, said:

vote Aranatha



And at that point, they start slightly changing their tune too. Remaining sceptical, but not as sceptical.

View PostMockra, on 20 October 2016 - 01:46 PM, said:

View PostBendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 01:44 PM, said:

remove vote

how many votes on him?



4 now.

I don't like it, but thinking on it, I doubt Serc is killer.




Mockra was also more subdued than most at the end of that day, but I don't want to read much into that. They genuinely do seem to have been away travelling for sections, as in this post (they did come back after 45 minutes).

View PostMockra, on 20 October 2016 - 12:20 PM, said:

Kk peeps subway time back in , 40 min or so.



So Mockra questions the possible scumminess of Serc, Bendal, Liosan, and Telas in that time. Not by providing their own evidence, but in responding to and backing up things that others post at the time. And I think therein lies the difference to the rooting around that, for example, myself and Bendal were doing.

On the other hand, they also throw Aranatha into it (but always in connection to someone else, be it Telas or Liosan). And they do have that previous history with Aranatha where Ara voted for them.

Thoughts?

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 11:24 AM

View PostKessobahn, on 21 October 2016 - 11:03 AM, said:

My second scenario is that Mockra is the killer. I have no symp in mind for this and, frankly, it's not relevant to the case whether there is or is not a symp.


So Gait and I reveal. Mockra is one of those who has a vote and Gait, and promptly removes it.

View PostMockra, on 20 October 2016 - 11:35 AM, said:

Well, this changes everything

remove vote



If anyone should be questioning why they are here (someone suggested they wouldn't be back in time - Bendal?), they clear that up, making sure we understand that there should be no suspicion as to why/how they've now shown up.

View PostMockra, on 20 October 2016 - 11:41 AM, said:

Incidentally I did say the day times out right before I get to work (still home now...) so I was fully intending to come back before timeout



Bendal's already pointed this out - Mockra explains why Aranatha's not around.

View PostMockra, on 20 October 2016 - 12:06 PM, said:

View PostBendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 11:58 AM, said:

Other than that first quote by Serc on Mockra which is talking about Canals there is little to no interaction between them. Aranatha has been unusually quiet today, scum holding their breath? I'll be back after lunch, in an hour. Pondering things.

Aranatha's posting times suggest he's in NA. It's barely 8 Am here.

Trying to get a read on this before I hit the subway andlose signal. I ought to be I for the last 30 mins before timeout at least



Prods gently towards Serc here.

View PostMockra, on 20 October 2016 - 12:08 PM, said:

My honest feeling about Serc yesterday was "hmm. A list. Scum love lists". But that did not seem strong enough to warrant a vote.



Prods gently towards Bendal here.

View PostMockra, on 20 October 2016 - 12:16 PM, said:

:unsure: yes, I can see that. My eyebrow is raised quizzically upon his sudden verbiage as well.

The above was my response to his post implying I was distancing from you.



Possible distancing from Aranatha here (but also gently prodding towards Liosan at the same time).

View PostMockra, on 20 October 2016 - 01:17 PM, said:

View PostKessobahn, on 20 October 2016 - 01:10 PM, said:

Unless there's been some pro distancing going on (always possible), the partnerships that I can see are:

Liosan and Aranatha
Mockra and Serc

So which pair is scummier?

Fun fact: both Lio and Aranatha tried to start smth with me at some point.



Prods gently towards Telas here. Again, if looking at Mockra as the killer, we might see some distancing going on from Aranatha here too. And if we are going with the Mockra/Aranatha scenario, they certainly have distancing history from earlier in the game with Aranatha's voting shenanigans.

View PostMockra, on 20 October 2016 - 01:27 PM, said:

Telas taking the obstinate view worries me, tbh. With 8 people around, it'd take everyone minus scum to lynch. WCS still 3 scum, so Telas refusing to budge from Aranatha could be a subtle symp hint maybe? Gah, i'm getting paranoid.



Liosan asks for vote count and timer. Mockra doesn't bother checking the time left but is quite aware that there are now two votes on Aranatha.

View PostMockra, on 20 October 2016 - 01:33 PM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 20 October 2016 - 01:30 PM, said:

Okay, that was a very quick read. There was no counter on the reveal and that would be ballsy/insane to bet on that if scum, so I trust Kesso and Gait are lovers. This leaves Aranatha and Mockra as the most scummy people on my list, I'm okay with vote of any of those, leaning towards Aranatha myself.

Serc also appeared on my radar. As said previously, nothing particular, but the general posting style reeks of coasting dressed up as contributing. But that's weaksauce. I had Bendal on my PI list, but the amount of WIFOMING he's been delivering this day is way over the top. Symp or scum?

That said, I need to get back to work :| Will put my vote on Aranatha and will be checking the thread, but can't really post much. What's the vote count and timer?

vote Aranatha

You just made it 2 on Aranatha



Gently trying to dissuade me from following Telas on to an Aranatha train.

View PostMockra, on 20 October 2016 - 01:35 PM, said:

View PostKessobahn, on 20 October 2016 - 01:31 PM, said:

View PostMockra, on 20 October 2016 - 01:27 PM, said:

Telas taking the obstinate view worries me, tbh. With 8 people around, it'd take everyone minus scum to lynch. WCS still 3 scum, so Telas refusing to budge from Aranatha could be a subtle symp hint maybe? Gah, i'm getting paranoid.



I'm actually kind of tempted to follow Telas' instincts on that - that misread by Aranatha was pretty odd.

I have a general policy of not trusting Telas' gut. It (the gut, not the policy) has led me astray waaay too many times.



Not-so-gently saying we should suspect Liosan instead.

View PostMockra, on 20 October 2016 - 01:42 PM, said:

MY gut is screaming "Liosan". But I admit I might be biased since responding to his "sanity-checking" is what started this whole issue.



Before finally voting after me in a cross-post with Bendal Home (possibly when seeing that the writing was on the wall). They thought their vote would have put Aranatha on L-1 but in fact it turned into the hammer.

View PostMockra, on 20 October 2016 - 01:44 PM, said:

vote Aranatha



And at that point, they start slightly changing their tune too. Remaining sceptical, but not as sceptical.

View PostMockra, on 20 October 2016 - 01:46 PM, said:

View PostBendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 01:44 PM, said:

remove vote

how many votes on him?



4 now.

I don't like it, but thinking on it, I doubt Serc is killer.




Mockra was also more subdued than most at the end of that day, but I don't want to read much into that. They genuinely do seem to have been away travelling for sections, as in this post (they did come back after 45 minutes).

View PostMockra, on 20 October 2016 - 12:20 PM, said:

Kk peeps subway time back in , 40 min or so.



So Mockra questions the possible scumminess of Serc, Bendal, Liosan, and Telas in that time. Not by providing their own evidence, but in responding to and backing up things that others post at the time. And I think therein lies the difference to the rooting around that, for example, myself and Bendal were doing.

On the other hand, they also throw Aranatha into it (but always in connection to someone else, be it Telas or Liosan). And they do have that previous history with Aranatha where Ara voted for them.

Thoughts?


Mockra might be killer in truth then,

That works for me just fine.

Telas, Bendal and/or Gait should complete the lynch and we can finish this game.

My only qualm is Mockra hasn't once voted Bendal Home. I was looking through it in search...that's ok though. Again it's a 50/50 for me.

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 11:26 AM

Well I could see either Serc or Mockra to be the killer. Your case on Mockra is good, and is where I want to vote, but I still think Serc is scum too. I'd vote either of them tbh.

I am not a symp, so but don't expect you to take my word for it.

If the symp is dead, then either Serc or Mockra could be Aranatha's partner because they've both done things that sway away from Ara. The lack of anything from Mockra today sees me suspect him more, and I don't think Serc's vote should be looked at. Telas is wifoming himself over it.



If one thing you are certain of is I am not Aranatha's partner, which I am not, then as long as we lynch one of Serc/Mockra we should still have a tomorrow. My only worry is that we do, you or Gait get killed, and they choose me to be lynched tomorrow which wouldn't make sense but you could see happening.

If you decide Serc should be lynched I'll vote that way, but as I have said, I prefer Mockra today.

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 11:28 AM

View PostBendal Home, on 21 October 2016 - 11:26 AM, said:

Well I could see either Serc or Mockra to be the killer. Your case on Mockra is good, and is where I want to vote, but I still think Serc is scum too. I'd vote either of them tbh.

I am not a symp, so but don't expect you to take my word for it.

If the symp is dead, then either Serc or Mockra could be Aranatha's partner because they've both done things that sway away from Ara. The lack of anything from Mockra today sees me suspect him more, and I don't think Serc's vote should be looked at. Telas is wifoming himself over it.



If one thing you are certain of is I am not Aranatha's partner, which I am not, then as long as we lynch one of Serc/Mockra we should still have a tomorrow. My only worry is that we do, you or Gait get killed, and they choose me to be lynched tomorrow which wouldn't make sense but you could see happening.

If you decide Serc should be lynched I'll vote that way, but as I have said, I prefer Mockra today.


Hiding behind Kesso again.

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 11:29 AM

Is it me or do we lots of time left?

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 11:31 AM

View PostSerc, on 21 October 2016 - 11:28 AM, said:

View PostBendal Home, on 21 October 2016 - 11:26 AM, said:

Well I could see either Serc or Mockra to be the killer. Your case on Mockra is good, and is where I want to vote, but I still think Serc is scum too. I'd vote either of them tbh.

I am not a symp, so but don't expect you to take my word for it.

If the symp is dead, then either Serc or Mockra could be Aranatha's partner because they've both done things that sway away from Ara. The lack of anything from Mockra today sees me suspect him more, and I don't think Serc's vote should be looked at. Telas is wifoming himself over it.



If one thing you are certain of is I am not Aranatha's partner, which I am not, then as long as we lynch one of Serc/Mockra we should still have a tomorrow. My only worry is that we do, you or Gait get killed, and they choose me to be lynched tomorrow which wouldn't make sense but you could see happening.

If you decide Serc should be lynched I'll vote that way, but as I have said, I prefer Mockra today.


Hiding behind Kesso again.



Vote Serc


I cannot be arsed dilly dallying around. I like either option. Serc or Mockra, i'll switch if needed.

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 11:37 AM

View PostBendal Home, on 21 October 2016 - 11:31 AM, said:

View PostSerc, on 21 October 2016 - 11:28 AM, said:

View PostBendal Home, on 21 October 2016 - 11:26 AM, said:

Well I could see either Serc or Mockra to be the killer. Your case on Mockra is good, and is where I want to vote, but I still think Serc is scum too. I'd vote either of them tbh.

I am not a symp, so but don't expect you to take my word for it.

If the symp is dead, then either Serc or Mockra could be Aranatha's partner because they've both done things that sway away from Ara. The lack of anything from Mockra today sees me suspect him more, and I don't think Serc's vote should be looked at. Telas is wifoming himself over it.



If one thing you are certain of is I am not Aranatha's partner, which I am not, then as long as we lynch one of Serc/Mockra we should still have a tomorrow. My only worry is that we do, you or Gait get killed, and they choose me to be lynched tomorrow which wouldn't make sense but you could see happening.

If you decide Serc should be lynched I'll vote that way, but as I have said, I prefer Mockra today.


Hiding behind Kesso again.



Vote Serc


I cannot be arsed dilly dallying around. I like either option. Serc or Mockra, i'll switch if needed.


OK if either way suits you fine why send it towards me when Mockras already on L-2?

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 11:39 AM

View PostSerc, on 21 October 2016 - 11:37 AM, said:

View PostBendal Home, on 21 October 2016 - 11:31 AM, said:

View PostSerc, on 21 October 2016 - 11:28 AM, said:

View PostBendal Home, on 21 October 2016 - 11:26 AM, said:

Well I could see either Serc or Mockra to be the killer. Your case on Mockra is good, and is where I want to vote, but I still think Serc is scum too. I'd vote either of them tbh.

I am not a symp, so but don't expect you to take my word for it.

If the symp is dead, then either Serc or Mockra could be Aranatha's partner because they've both done things that sway away from Ara. The lack of anything from Mockra today sees me suspect him more, and I don't think Serc's vote should be looked at. Telas is wifoming himself over it.



If one thing you are certain of is I am not Aranatha's partner, which I am not, then as long as we lynch one of Serc/Mockra we should still have a tomorrow. My only worry is that we do, you or Gait get killed, and they choose me to be lynched tomorrow which wouldn't make sense but you could see happening.

If you decide Serc should be lynched I'll vote that way, but as I have said, I prefer Mockra today.


Hiding behind Kesso again.



Vote Serc


I cannot be arsed dilly dallying around. I like either option. Serc or Mockra, i'll switch if needed.


OK if either way suits you fine why send it towards me when Mockras already on L-2?


How is Mockra on L2? You are the only vote on him.

Panicking much?

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 11:39 AM

Morning, all.

I got a few pages to caught up on, but off to a medical test now, then work, with needing to grab breakfast somewhere in there. So, gimme roughly 2-3 hours to get back and see what else Bendal came up with.

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 11:40 AM

View PostBendal Home, on 21 October 2016 - 11:39 AM, said:

View PostSerc, on 21 October 2016 - 11:37 AM, said:

View PostBendal Home, on 21 October 2016 - 11:31 AM, said:

View PostSerc, on 21 October 2016 - 11:28 AM, said:

View PostBendal Home, on 21 October 2016 - 11:26 AM, said:

Well I could see either Serc or Mockra to be the killer. Your case on Mockra is good, and is where I want to vote, but I still think Serc is scum too. I'd vote either of them tbh.

I am not a symp, so but don't expect you to take my word for it.

If the symp is dead, then either Serc or Mockra could be Aranatha's partner because they've both done things that sway away from Ara. The lack of anything from Mockra today sees me suspect him more, and I don't think Serc's vote should be looked at. Telas is wifoming himself over it.



If one thing you are certain of is I am not Aranatha's partner, which I am not, then as long as we lynch one of Serc/Mockra we should still have a tomorrow. My only worry is that we do, you or Gait get killed, and they choose me to be lynched tomorrow which wouldn't make sense but you could see happening.

If you decide Serc should be lynched I'll vote that way, but as I have said, I prefer Mockra today.


Hiding behind Kesso again.



Vote Serc


I cannot be arsed dilly dallying around. I like either option. Serc or Mockra, i'll switch if needed.


OK if either way suits you fine why send it towards me when Mockras already on L-2?


How is Mockra on L2? You are the only vote on him.

Panicking much?


Oh you removed vote on him?

hmmmn...

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 11:46 AM

I should think you have to unvote mockra first bendal.

I'm reading through this stuff again ,but on the phone.

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 11:49 AM

View PostTelas, on 21 October 2016 - 11:46 AM, said:

I should think you have to unvote mockra first bendal.

I'm reading through this stuff again ,but on the phone.



He had already.


I have a couple more things I want to consider/have a look through, but after that I will lay down a vote.

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 11:49 AM

View PostSerc, on 21 October 2016 - 11:40 AM, said:

View PostBendal Home, on 21 October 2016 - 11:39 AM, said:

View PostSerc, on 21 October 2016 - 11:37 AM, said:

View PostBendal Home, on 21 October 2016 - 11:31 AM, said:

View PostSerc, on 21 October 2016 - 11:28 AM, said:

View PostBendal Home, on 21 October 2016 - 11:26 AM, said:

Well I could see either Serc or Mockra to be the killer. Your case on Mockra is good, and is where I want to vote, but I still think Serc is scum too. I'd vote either of them tbh.

I am not a symp, so but don't expect you to take my word for it.

If the symp is dead, then either Serc or Mockra could be Aranatha's partner because they've both done things that sway away from Ara. The lack of anything from Mockra today sees me suspect him more, and I don't think Serc's vote should be looked at. Telas is wifoming himself over it.



If one thing you are certain of is I am not Aranatha's partner, which I am not, then as long as we lynch one of Serc/Mockra we should still have a tomorrow. My only worry is that we do, you or Gait get killed, and they choose me to be lynched tomorrow which wouldn't make sense but you could see happening.

If you decide Serc should be lynched I'll vote that way, but as I have said, I prefer Mockra today.


Hiding behind Kesso again.



Vote Serc


I cannot be arsed dilly dallying around. I like either option. Serc or Mockra, i'll switch if needed.


OK if either way suits you fine why send it towards me when Mockras already on L-2?


How is Mockra on L2? You are the only vote on him.

Panicking much?


Oh you removed vote on him?

hmmmn...


Not paying attention because you're the killer and anyone but you hey?

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 11:50 AM

View PostBendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 07:21 PM, said:

View PostTelas, on 20 October 2016 - 07:19 PM, said:

Bendal, I'm sorry but you're going to have to string these quote together with some relevant text. That post was me voting arantha, a vote count, mockra voting lio, serc voting omtose, a vote count.Then a claim it all fits because gait and kesso found votes odd. which votes, how are they linked. What in under fuck are you actually trying to say here?
Telas i fucking plead you to go read with serc as symp and mockra as killer in mind. Look at their posts its obvious. Im saying on that one that your vote shook the tree a little and prompted scum to vote. Mockra on another alternative and serc to promote a lead candidate.



View PostBendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 07:24 PM, said:

vote MockraWe have time ill continue later. Im going to play badminton. Im convinced.Im excited ive found the connection.



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View PostBendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 07:24 PM, said:

vote MockraWe have time ill continue later. Im going to play badminton. Im convinced.Im excited ive found the connection.
this ones easyVote Mockra



View PostBendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 07:35 PM, said:

remove voteTelas i am convinced Serc is Mockras sympI will vote either. Therefore i label you town. So i will vote for either serc or mockra. Up to you but please read up.


hmmmn...

Well it's out my hands but I actually missed this in all your mountains of post.

I think the contradiction in action to words says enough.

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