Okay guys, I'm going to present two options to you. Bendal, if you're around, I would appreciate it if you didn't multi-post until I'm done. Although I'm presenting two possible scenarios, I think personally I may have made up my mind already. One is mostly based on a person being a symp, the kind of scum-hunting which I dislike and which I think we've seen way too much of this game (scum hunting should primarily based on that own person's words and deeds, not what someone else may or may not have said about them)...but here you go, I'm a hypocrite.
The second case is based upon a reading of the suspect. Both cases are based on play at the end of day 2, after Gait's reveal, when scum had to think and scramble quickly to adapt to the new situation.
The first case scenario is Serc as killer, with Bendal Home as his symp. Observe:
Gait votes for Serc, the second vote for Serc after myself. Bendal responds with this:
Bendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 09:26 AM, said:
The thing is, I could really vote for Liosan to see what they're on about or Mockra for their turnabout. I haven't really thought of Serc as scum but could be blindsided by what has developed on thread so far.
One thing is, you seem to be deflecting attention away from Liosan, and they seem to be attacking Liosan.
Serc then removes their vote (it had been on Liosan at this point). Possibly in preparation to place it on Gait, who was looking the likeliest lynch at the time.
Serc, on 20 October 2016 - 09:57 AM, said:
Still on trying to sort this all out but right now I think I'm gonna
Remove vote
Anyone know how much time is left?
Gait and I then reveal, and the game changes. Bendal says he will look at Serc (he doesn't really apart from summarising who they've mentioned/replied to), but at the same time suggests looking in other places also.
Bendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 10:40 AM, said:
Thank you. As time is running down, and after the reveal we need a new direction. I'm going to look at Serc as you both have voted that way, yet it may be prudent to vote someone with more connections.
Bendal continues along the theme of moving votes on to someone else:
Bendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 10:51 AM, said:
You thinking this is D day?
If so I think Mockra or Lio might be a better choice.
I've cut out the wall of text and quotes from the post below. Here Bendal loses his temper with Serc after Serc questions his methods. "Why can't you see that I'm trying to help you, you moron", possibly.
Bendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 11:27 AM, said:
[snip]
Serc, everyone BUT Kesso and Gait should be fucking looked at. kesso points out that WCS this is D day, so we have to look at everyone and try and look for a partnership. We have under 3 hours to go you moron.
I ask which partnership is more likely, Mockra/Serc or Liosan/Aranatha (obviously now wrong on those partnerships). This is Bendal's response, downgrading Aranatha, but he does mention Serc (with Mockra). Of course, he would have had little choice but to name one of the scum, if it's Aranatha and Serc, as I've put them in separate groups here.
Bendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 01:17 PM, said:
The more active I'd say. Both Mockra and Serc are here right now to influence, Aranatha's absence is worrisome but for both scum to miss end of d day? Highly unlikely. With count down beginning I fear we may not get a lynch.
Bendal then goes through his vote, remove vote, vote again phase on Aranatha, during which Mockra comes on and hammers. Could be argued that he didn't foresee someone crossposting another vote and thus lynching Aranatha.
Okay, so that scenario where Serc is the killer is mostly based on what might look like Bendal trying to get Gait and I off voting Serc. It is successful...but then Aranatha gets picked instead.
Now, here, during the same phase, I want to put down the posts which ARGUE AGAINST Bendal being a symp for Serc and Serc being a killer.
First of all, it must be pointed out that Bendal DOES vote for Serc at one point, putting Serc on L-2 before I quickly remove my vote. In addition, though with some dithering, Bendal did also vote for Aranatha.
The caveat on this particular vote is that Bendal does say in it, "I would prefer Mockra though."
Bendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 10:45 AM, said:
Gait, on 20 October 2016 - 08:49 AM, said:
From my pov it looks like setting Lio up for the next day. Thanks Bengal something just clicked to me.
I really don't like Sercs response to Kesso. Asking for "advice" and being willing to discuss their standing out? I'm just thinking wtf is it. And then vote the for Lio. I'd say it looks towny but, not going with the flow when they could so easily, and going for the most likely target to be lynched tomorrow when I cf town. I think Serc and Mockra are scum setting up Lio. Smooth Serc most likely a killer.
Vote Serc
Fair enough. let's run with this.
Vote Serc
I'd switch to Mockra if others would prefer him.
Next, Serc suggests looking at Bendal next if they are lynched. Now, if Serc were to CF killer, what would be the point of saying this here? He'd know we wouldn't listen seriously to anything they had said, so the only point I can see to naming someone is for shits and giggles.
Serc, on 20 October 2016 - 10:51 AM, said:
Ok well looks like curtains for me then.
Too bad, thought I was onto something with the Mockra/Gait/Lio mix.
Then things got confusing, Lovers included. Town still seem to have a good springboard. will cheer for you guys from SH. Hope my CF helps you zero in on scum. the Bendal flip is a bit of a surprise to me so I'd start there.
Serc does it again here.
Serc, on 20 October 2016 - 10:54 AM, said:
Bendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 10:51 AM, said:
You thinking this is D day?
If so I think Mockra or Lio might be a better choice.
I'd actually think you're the one to watch. Honestly have no read of where your allegiance lie. just realizing that now.
Finally, there's also this (though Bendal does contradict themselves with their stance on Aranatha being away later). Bendal questions whether Aranatha might be scum keeping quiet. At this point, this is not leading off of anything, as we hadn't yet seriously started considering Aranatha. So why would a symp bring up their master like this?
Bendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 11:58 AM, said:
Other than that first quote by Serc on Mockra which is talking about Canals there is little to no interaction between them. Aranatha has been unusually quiet today, scum holding their breath? I'll be back after lunch, in an hour. Pondering things.
So what's the verdict here? Does the evidence against outweigh the evidence for?