[Bendal Home]

Im on my phone hence all the mistakes btw

[Gait]

Aranatha, on 19 October 2016 - 07:50 PM, said:

Mockra, on 18 October 2016 - 10:28 PM, said:

Liosan, on 18 October 2016 - 09:04 PM, said:

Mockra, on 17 October 2016 - 03:17 PM, said:

Gait, on 17 October 2016 - 03:11 PM, said:

Me not really either. And I understand why have canals when you can have roads just a few miles farther in the first place.

According to Age of Empires II, Venice was founded by refugees from a Roman city (that started with "A") that was sacked by Attila, who were desperate to find a secure and defensible place to live.

...And now you know...

Am I the only one whose spidey sense is tingling when they read something like AND NOW YOU KNOW at the end of the post?

If you want to accuse me of signalling or something how about you just do that, rather doing the smoke and mirrors and "this is SOMEHOW SUSPICIOUS!!!1" bit?

remove vote

Since you bothered to show up.

Kessobahn, on 19 October 2016 - 04:47 PM, said:

Yes, I too am feeling let down. Everyone else should post more and better!

@ Bendal: Regarding your case...it's about possible signalling, which I never have the hots for, simply because I'd never do it myself.

I don't do it either, but the fact remains that some people are doing it all the time. I don't know how often they're caught doing it, but I'd pretty much expect to be caught if I did do it. So I don't.


}Now you know" seems particularly cryptic to be taken for a signal, but Liosan never said he read it as a signal, just something that made his "spidey Senses tingle." Mockra said Liosan was seeing a signal that wasn't there. So just maybe - it was.

Vote Mockra

I'm still not sure what was Arantha reying to achieve here but it looks like he meant it as serious vote at the time. I don't think the fuckup was feigned here and therefore is even less likely to be distancing as a killer would be careful when talking about another killer

[Bendal Home]

Look more flirtyposts.

Telas, on 19 October 2016 - 08:37 PM, said:

Aranatha, on 19 October 2016 - 07:10 PM, said:

Sorry, i mis-read your prior post.. Nevermind. Carry on!

aha! my favourite!
vote Arantha

Aranatha, on 19 October 2016 - 08:56 PM, said:

Telas, on 19 October 2016 - 08:37 PM, said:

Aranatha, on 19 October 2016 - 07:10 PM, said:

Sorry, i mis-read your prior post.. Nevermind. Carry on!

aha! my favourite!
vote Arantha

I'm YOUR biggest fan, too!

Vote Telas

This is pre lover reveal.im trying to read between the lines and im thinking Telas is joking around because there is no substance. Just gut.

There was no traction towards aranatha so it was safe.

Then when there was traction he wasnt around. He couldnt have stopped it if he tried.

My point being he had no reason to vote Aranata but was right. If heisnt Aranathas partner then he is very lucky to have picked scum out of a hat.

[Kessobahn]

For what it's worth, I'm really liking all the ouput from everybody today, really useful and makes it interesting. I should have more time later tonight to give my two cents' worth.

[Serc]

Mockra, on 20 October 2016 - 04:37 PM, said:

Serc, on 20 October 2016 - 04:26 PM, said:

look I've made my case on bendal and Mockra and to a wasted extent on Lio.

I was gonna add earlier Bendal CI's Lio and telas. Lio looked like the likelier killer to me.

That's pretty much all I've got. I'm gonna take a backseat from here.

So you have no opinion on Telas?

Serc, on 20 October 2016 - 02:37 PM, said:

Telas, on 20 October 2016 - 02:36 PM, said:

BOOM
STILL GOT IT FUCKERS!

Someone else can find his buddy, Im at work

you get all the rep post game. All of it.

His play is consistent if somewhat unconventional. Were I to pick one out of the four of us for CI I'd go with Telas.

That's why I thought Bendal was symping Lio. the other option, Bendal symping Telas is far fetched. see thread long Arathan/Telas speculation for my reasoning.
I'ts an option but that level of commitment just doesn't read as an act. That's just my opinion though and its open to revision later on in the day.


I'm waiting to hear from Kesso and Gait before landing my vote.

Will be on for another hour or two before bed.

[Mockra]

Bendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 06:18 PM, said:

Look more flirtyposts.

Telas, on 19 October 2016 - 08:37 PM, said:

Aranatha, on 19 October 2016 - 07:10 PM, said:

Sorry, i mis-read your prior post.. Nevermind. Carry on!

aha! my favourite!
vote Arantha

Aranatha, on 19 October 2016 - 08:56 PM, said:

Telas, on 19 October 2016 - 08:37 PM, said:

Aranatha, on 19 October 2016 - 07:10 PM, said:

Sorry, i mis-read your prior post.. Nevermind. Carry on!

aha! my favourite!
vote Arantha

I'm YOUR biggest fan, too!

Vote Telas

This is pre lover reveal.im trying to read between the lines and im thinking Telas is joking around because there is no substance. Just gut.

There was no traction towards aranatha so it was safe.

Then when there was traction he wasnt around. He couldnt have stopped it if he tried.

My point being he had no reason to vote Aranata but was right. If heisnt Aranathas partner then he is very lucky to have picked scum out of a hat.

Telas goes for the same scum "tell" every time, though. So I can't interpret that "coincidence" against him.

What Aranathawas doing at any point is a mystery to me.

[Gait]

So ruling out Mockra for the vote quoted above and Serc for missing the NA that'd leave me Bendal and Telas
Telas is probably not a symp. If Bendal was symp that'd rule him out of being killer and would then have to be Telas's symp following this logic which is he probably not.

So most likely BH/Telas the killer with Serc/Mockra the symp

[Bendal Home]

What do you mean? The last time Telas was scum he did have vague summaries towards nd of day and vote with the pack so I do not see him scum if he is following same pattern.

Logic to me dictates that Serc is the other killer. He did not vote Aranatha and he was never suspicious towards him. I would like to look at him further but im not at a computer. Someone else look at Sercs response to Aranatha pressute throughout the game?

Im not dismissing Telas btw.

[Mockra]

What I meant was "his vote on people he thinks are scum are based on the suspects doing the same thing" - the "tell", so to say.

So in those terms, he's consistent.

[Serc]

Bendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 06:38 PM, said:

What do you mean? The last time Telas was scum he did have vague summaries towards nd of day and vote with the pack so I do not see him scum if he is following same pattern.

Logic to me dictates that Serc is the other killer. He did not vote Aranatha and he was never suspicious towards him. I would like to look at him further but im not at a computer. Someone else look at Sercs response to Aranatha pressute throughout the game?

Im not dismissing Telas btw.

Path-Shaper, on 20 October 2016 - 01:55 PM, said:

Bendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 01:45 PM, said:

Fuck it, I don't see him being scum but I said i'd follow.

Vote Aranatha

As of that vote there were a few minutes left on the timer, but...

Aranatha has been lynched. He was Kruppe of Darujhistan and a killer.

Neither were you allegedly.

Didn't think I'd catch that lil bit of distancing did you?

[Bendal Home]

Serc, on 20 October 2016 - 06:56 PM, said:

Bendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 06:38 PM, said:

What do you mean? The last time Telas was scum he did have vague summaries towards nd of day and vote with the pack so I do not see him scum if he is following same pattern.

Logic to me dictates that Serc is the other killer. He did not vote Aranatha and he was never suspicious towards him. I would like to look at him further but im not at a computer. Someone else look at Sercs response to Aranatha pressute throughout the game?

Im not dismissing Telas btw.

Path-Shaper, on 20 October 2016 - 01:55 PM, said:

Bendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 01:45 PM, said:

Fuck it, I don't see him being scum but I said i'd follow.

Vote Aranatha

As of that vote there were a few minutes left on the timer, but...

Aranatha has been lynched. He was Kruppe of Darujhistan and a killer.

Neither were you allegedly.

Didn't think I'd catch that lil bit of distancing did you?

How is that distancing?

[Bendal Home]

Serc, on 17 October 2016 - 07:28 PM, said:

Mockra, on 17 October 2016 - 03:40 PM, said:

The mosaics in St Mark's are impressive. The Doges Palace is arguably richer than the Versailles in its overal set-up

The food is over-priced, and all the side-streets are full of crumbling buildings

3 stars out of 5, would not buy property there. Florence is much cooler.

Never been to Venice or Italy for that matter. I would much rather visit Florence.
All I've heard about Venice adds up to:

Not nice to live in
pleasant to visit
excellent to drive past (or in this case float.)

Architecturally I think they and the Dutch lead in explorations into buoyant architectural conversions.

I loved James bond set in Venice, That was loads of fun. The chair with a hole scene? OUCH! The mind recoils at the thought.

Possible Serc signalling Mockra.


(Im reading ip once again)

@gait

You mentioned Aras vote of Mockra but do you not think it as strange he voted Mockra not you? He was accusing Mockra of signalling so should have voted the "master" but did not. He voted Mockra. Why would anyone follow that vote/case and lynch Mockra?

[Bendal Home]

Serc, on 17 October 2016 - 07:28 PM, said:

Mockra, on 17 October 2016 - 03:40 PM, said:

The mosaics in St Mark's are impressive. The Doges Palace is arguably richer than the Versailles in its overal set-up

The food is over-priced, and all the side-streets are full of crumbling buildings

3 stars out of 5, would not buy property there. Florence is much cooler.

Never been to Venice or Italy for that matter. I would much rather visit Florence.
All I've heard about Venice adds up to:

Not nice to live in
pleasant to visit
excellent to drive past (or in this case float.)

Architecturally I think they and the Dutch lead in explorations into buoyant architectural conversions.

I loved James bond set in Venice, That was loads of fun. The chair with a hole scene? OUCH! The mind recoils at the thought.

Serc, on 17 October 2016 - 07:34 PM, said:

Aranatha, on 17 October 2016 - 03:10 PM, said:

I can't swim. Good thing croc poop floats. Um, it does float, doesn't it?

I have it on good authority that it does. Canalligators are a different story entirely.

In fact Serc as a symp could fit. Looky here. He quotes Mockra and Aranatha one after the other and uses what is in their text but when he comes to me he acts clueless and asks a question.

[Bendal Home]

Aranatha, on 17 October 2016 - 11:08 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on 17 October 2016 - 10:49 PM, said:

Aranatha, on 17 October 2016 - 09:41 PM, said:

Bendal Home, on 17 October 2016 - 08:58 PM, said:

Why not

vote omtose

Brilliant!

Wait. What?!?

Omtose because they're a low poster? I think Bendal's trying to get this party started. The question is, why does Aranatha care?

Liosan hasn't posted at all, so Omtose isn't the lowest poster. If I "cared" I would have added a vote of my own, one way or the other.

Mockra, on 17 October 2016 - 11:39 PM, said:

Omtose posted a single word. That certainly is scummy, all right.

Serc, on 18 October 2016 - 03:59 AM, said:

Omtose, on 17 October 2016 - 03:33 PM, said:

Present

Don't you see people?

Its not what he says, it's what he doesn't say! Read between the lines!(in this case the letters)

EPA! EPA! EPA!

Simpsons movie reference aside, Liosan really would make more sense for a low-poster hunt having not joined in yet. What's the thinking there Bendal?

Ok Serc backing up Aranatha about my voting of Omtose not of Liosan. Mockra in the mix.


Then when Telas votes Aranatha for the first time.. Mockra votes Liosan, the very person both Aranatha and Serc mention.

[Gait]

Bendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 07:03 PM, said:

You mentioned Aras vote of Mockra but do you not think it as strange he voted Mockra not you? He was accusing Mockra of signalling so should have voted the "master" but did not. He voted Mockra. Why would anyone follow that vote/case and lynch Mockra?

It looks like he thought symp would cf as symp or something, and claimed that he thought the signal didn't neccesarily have to be aimed at me. But it's true he might have been aware what a bullshit was what he claimed.

[Serc]

Bendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 06:59 PM, said:

Serc, on 20 October 2016 - 06:56 PM, said:

Bendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 06:38 PM, said:

What do you mean? The last time Telas was scum he did have vague summaries towards nd of day and vote with the pack so I do not see him scum if he is following same pattern.

Logic to me dictates that Serc is the other killer. He did not vote Aranatha and he was never suspicious towards him. I would like to look at him further but im not at a computer. Someone else look at Sercs response to Aranatha pressute throughout the game?

Im not dismissing Telas btw.

Path-Shaper, on 20 October 2016 - 01:55 PM, said:

Bendal Home, on 20 October 2016 - 01:45 PM, said:

Fuck it, I don't see him being scum but I said i'd follow.

Vote Aranatha

As of that vote there were a few minutes left on the timer, but...

Aranatha has been lynched. He was Kruppe of Darujhistan and a killer.

Neither were you allegedly.

Didn't think I'd catch that lil bit of distancing did you?

How is that distancing?

You hammered.

a hammer with the clock running down on you is a pressured situation. say you're scum? this is a vote on either your master or your ally. If you're off the train as in my shoes you look scummy. as the last surviving killer you CANNOT afford that level of scrutiny. so what do you do with your partner on L-1? you Hammer.

In your case not only do you hammer you word it as loyalty to CI as you vote.

to me that distances you from the situation and couples you with Kessos guidance.

[Bendal Home]

Look at scum working here.

Telas, on 18 October 2016 - 09:02 AM, said:

Doesn't wash General, there's been nothing but bullshit posted by anyone so far.

That said I'm more interested in Aranthas snappy reply about how he would have voted if he cared.

vote Arantha

Talk to me bitch

Telas votes Aranatha

Path-Shaper, on 18 October 2016 - 01:41 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 13 hours and 4 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: Aranatha, Bendal Home, Eloth, Gait, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Liosan, Mockra, Omtose, Serc, Telas

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Aranatha ( Telas )
1 Vote for Omtose ( Bendal Home )

Players not voted: Aranatha, Eloth, Gait, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Liosan, Mockra, Omtose, Serc

Mockra, on 18 October 2016 - 02:52 PM, said:

Morning, all.

Still no Liosan? This is getting odd.

vote Liosan


Come out an play with us!

Mockra votes Lio

Serc, on 18 October 2016 - 03:34 PM, said:

Omtose, on 17 October 2016 - 03:33 PM, said:

Present

Bendal Home, on 18 October 2016 - 02:58 PM, said:

True, banter is hard when you do not want to be noticed. Easier to "present" yourself and leave. Ignore the first vote. Let other people comment. I'm liking the Omtose vote more and more.

Well we still have lots of hours left. We are officialy 24 hours in since Omtose last posted.

Theoretically this would be the time Omtose has time to play so I'm gonna lean in on Bendals vote.

Vote Omtose

Lets see what happens.

Serc makes omtose the forerunner.

Path-Shaper, on 18 October 2016 - 03:36 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 11 hours and 9 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: Aranatha, Bendal Home, Eloth, Gait, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Liosan, Mockra, Omtose, Serc, Telas

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Aranatha ( Telas )
1 Vote for Liosan ( Mockra )
2 Votes for Omtose ( Bendal Home, Serc )

Players not voted: Aranatha, Eloth, Gait, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Liosan, Omtose

Both kesso and gait find their votes weird.

It fucking fits.

Ive worked out the game. Ill continue...

[Bendal Home]

Mockra, on 18 October 2016 - 10:31 PM, said:

Omtose got 3 votes for not playing.

As much as I always relish the prospect of removing dead weight early, the Aranatha and KF votes should be looked at more before doing that.

I should be able to vote later on the way home now, need to to look @ a house in 30 min.

Does he look into those votes further?

[Telas]

Bendal, I'm sorry but you're going to have to string these quote together with some relevant text. That post was me voting arantha, a vote count, mockra voting lio, serc voting omtose, a vote count.
Then a claim it all fits because gait and kesso found votes odd. which votes, how are they linked. What in under fuck are you actually trying to say here?

[Bendal Home]

I am convinced Serc is the symp and Mockra the killer. CONVINCED. Read up and you cannot miss it.

Mockra, on 19 October 2016 - 12:17 AM, said:

I've gotta leave in 10 mins and I won't be back till timeout.

vote Omtose.

At least we might get rid of dead weight.

Aranatha, on 19 October 2016 - 12:20 AM, said:

Screw it. Let the chips fall where they may.

Vote Omtose

The close votes at the end of day with an hour to go.

Path-Shaper, on 19 October 2016 - 01:53 AM, said:

It is Day 1. 53 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: Aranatha, Bendal Home, Eloth, Gait, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Liosan, Mockra, Omtose, Serc, Telas

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

6 Votes for Omtose ( Bendal Home, Serc, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Mockra, Aranatha )
1 Vote for Gait ( Liosan )
1 Vote for Kadagar Fant ( Gait )
1 Vote for Aranatha ( Telas )

Players not voted: Eloth, Omtose


Omtose has been lynched. She was Lady Bliss and a Roleless Innocent.

Serc, on 19 October 2016 - 04:50 AM, said:

Very weird. Guess LB hit some tech issues?

Speaking of which hey Lio, 'sup. Good to have you in on the game.


Well reading up I'm interested in several people.


Aranatha has had plenty of pressure day 1 but in general I'm not sure on what grounds. Sorting through a few posts there seems to be alot of different agendas there?

In one situation we had Kesso curious about Aranathas reaction to Omtose, something like "hey why is Aranatha defending Omtose?" Then Telas arguing Aranatha is scummy because he made a snappy reply when holding back a vote. Both Kesso and Telas riled Aranatha up, baiting.

I'm not seeing the substance to this. if anything I just see the two working together trying to see what sticks.

Then there's that vote on Gait. I got the case built up on Kadagar. I'd say we had lazier votes, mine wasn't exactly stellar but I see what Gait was driving at.
Liosan made some strange stretches on Gait. I was pretty sure Mockra made more sense but then Mockra explained it so...yeah.

Kesso, I'm surprised to see, was on the Omtose lynch train, Seemed negative when I was on, focused on the whole Aranatha bit. not really clear what changed his mind?

Well those are my thoughts, off to work. Might pop back in around lunch time.

Cheers.

This post by Serc vindicating Aranatha and being fabourable to Mockra.

Mockra, on 19 October 2016 - 01:52 PM, said:

@ work, having gotten decent amount of sleep, and I can feel the blessed caffeine seeping through my system, getting shit in gear. Have to be productive fo work but should have some time to play.

having re-read the whole of 3 pages we have, really not liking Lio atm. He's posted 3 quotes by Aranatha,presenting them as "consecutive", omitting at least as many in his back and forth with Kesso. If that's not strawmanning, I don't know what is.

Couple that with his "signal-fishing" yesterday against me (pet peeve: I hate the "well, X feels scummy, but I don't know why" posts. In my experience, people tend to make those accusations for a few days, and then start screaming bloody murder that X is scum because they're too "smooth under all that pressure".), and he's looking quite shady in my books.

This case on Lio because he disliked Aranatha.