[Aranatha]

But how likely is scum to make the very first game related post? And a vote, at that?

[Aranatha]

Those questions are directed at Gait.

[Gait]

 Aranatha, on 19 October 2016 - 06:52 PM, said:

But how likely is scum to make the very first game related post? And a vote, at that?

I'm not sure what are you refering it and how is it relevant to anything I said?

This is the first vote I think:

 Bendal Home, on 17 October 2016 - 08:58 PM, said:

Why not

vote omtose

In this case I consider this to be towny

Either this or the next one if you don't wanna count the first one should be the first game-related posts that say something:

 Aranatha, on 17 October 2016 - 09:41 PM, said:

 Bendal Home, on 17 October 2016 - 08:58 PM, said:

Why not

vote omtose

Brilliant!

Wait. What?!?

 Kessobahn, on 17 October 2016 - 10:49 PM, said:

 Aranatha, on 17 October 2016 - 09:41 PM, said:

 Bendal Home, on 17 October 2016 - 08:58 PM, said:

Why not

vote omtose

Brilliant!

Wait. What?!?

Omtose because they're a low poster? I think Bendal's trying to get this party started. The question is, why does Aranatha care?

Both reactions to the vote above so no real feeling on them whatsoever

[Aranatha]

Sorry, i mis-read your prior post.. Nevermind. Carry on!

[Gait]

I agree with most of what you say Bendal and, although I can see how, you've got to a wrong conclusion.

There's not much to Liosan for me. Mockra is there anything else aside from the signalling prod you don't like about them? Bendal, what did you not like about them and how did it change on reread?

Also I think you're leaning towards Telas being town too quickly. But it seems to be an error in my thinking too.

[Gait]

 Gait, on 19 October 2016 - 07:19 PM, said:

I agree with most of what you say Bendal and, although I can see how, you've got to a wrong conclusion.

If we're looking for connections between killers I'd look for ignoration and lack of any deeper interest towards each other

[Serc]

Hi guys,

Had a really shit day. Basicly some idiot took off with my car keys after I lent them for door fixing reasons. A chain of calls later turns out the keys ended up in my office managers to-do pile. I'd wasted THREE FUCKING HOURS trying to find them looking everywhere else.

What annoys me most is that I looked in the fridge.

Twice.

I'm gonna read up but I'm a bit over my day. Can't promise much.

[Liosan]

Back from work but watching Champions League. Will read what's up and post my thoughts after the game, so in ~60.

[Aranatha]

 Mockra, on 18 October 2016 - 10:28 PM, said:

 Liosan, on 18 October 2016 - 09:04 PM, said:

 Mockra, on 17 October 2016 - 03:17 PM, said:

 Gait, on 17 October 2016 - 03:11 PM, said:

Me not really either. And I understand why have canals when you can have roads just a few miles farther in the first place.

According to Age of Empires II, Venice was founded by refugees from a Roman city (that started with "A") that was sacked by Attila, who were desperate to find a secure and defensible place to live.

...And now you know...

Am I the only one whose spidey sense is tingling when they read something like AND NOW YOU KNOW at the end of the post?

If you want to accuse me of signalling or something how about you just do that, rather doing the smoke and mirrors and "this is SOMEHOW SUSPICIOUS!!!1" bit?

remove vote

Since you bothered to show up.

 Kessobahn, on 19 October 2016 - 04:47 PM, said:

Yes, I too am feeling let down. Everyone else should post more and better!

@ Bendal: Regarding your case...it's about possible signalling, which I never have the hots for, simply because I'd never do it myself.

I don't do it either, but the fact remains that some people are doing it all the time. I don't know how often they're caught doing it, but I'd pretty much expect to be caught if I did do it. So I don't.


}Now you know" seems particularly cryptic to be taken for a signal, but Liosan never said he read it as a signal, just something that made his "spidey Senses tingle." Mockra said Liosan was seeing a signal that wasn't there. So just maybe - it was.

Vote Mockra

[Gait]

 Aranatha, on 19 October 2016 - 07:50 PM, said:

 Mockra, on 18 October 2016 - 10:28 PM, said:

 Liosan, on 18 October 2016 - 09:04 PM, said:

 Mockra, on 17 October 2016 - 03:17 PM, said:

 Gait, on 17 October 2016 - 03:11 PM, said:

Me not really either. And I understand why have canals when you can have roads just a few miles farther in the first place.

According to Age of Empires II, Venice was founded by refugees from a Roman city (that started with "A") that was sacked by Attila, who were desperate to find a secure and defensible place to live.

...And now you know...

Am I the only one whose spidey sense is tingling when they read something like AND NOW YOU KNOW at the end of the post?

If you want to accuse me of signalling or something how about you just do that, rather doing the smoke and mirrors and "this is SOMEHOW SUSPICIOUS!!!1" bit?

remove vote

Since you bothered to show up.

 Kessobahn, on 19 October 2016 - 04:47 PM, said:

Yes, I too am feeling let down. Everyone else should post more and better!

@ Bendal: Regarding your case...it's about possible signalling, which I never have the hots for, simply because I'd never do it myself.

I don't do it either, but the fact remains that some people are doing it all the time. I don't know how often they're caught doing it, but I'd pretty much expect to be caught if I did do it. So I don't.


}Now you know" seems particularly cryptic to be taken for a signal, but Liosan never said he read it as a signal, just something that made his "spidey Senses tingle." Mockra said Liosan was seeing a signal that wasn't there. So just maybe - it was.

Vote Mockra

Why are you voting Mockra then?

[Aranatha]

Mokra said Liosan should just come out and say it instead of dancing around it and saying it looked suspicious. The fact remains Liosan never said it but Mokra said it for him.

[Aranatha]

I'm voting Mockra because he was so forceful in denying a specific accusation that was never even made.

[Gait]

 Aranatha, on 19 October 2016 - 07:58 PM, said:

I'm voting Mockra because he was so forceful in denying a specific accusation that was never even made.

So based solely on being touchy or on being touchy hence it might really have been a signal? If the latter why is someone who tries to make a signal priority to be lynched?

[Aranatha]

Well, you've run rings around me logically, there...

I'll wait on Mokra's predictably vehement reply.

[Gait]

 Aranatha, on 19 October 2016 - 08:05 PM, said:

Well, you've run rings around me logically, there...

I'll wait on Mokra's predictably vehement reply.

What I'm getting at is the only role to feel to need to make signals is symp signalling to his masters. Hence if you believe it might be a signal you will logically vote the one the presumed signal was aimed at because he is likely one of the presumed symp's masters. So I'm asking why are you voting presumed symp over a presumed master?

[Mockra]

 Gait, on 19 October 2016 - 07:19 PM, said:

I agree with most of what you say Bendal and, although I can see how, you've got to a wrong conclusion.

There's not much to Liosan for me. Mockra is there anything else aside from the signalling prod you don't like about them? Bendal, what did you not like about them and how did it change on reread?

Also I think you're leaning towards Telas being town too quickly. But it seems to be an error in my thinking too.

I already mentioned, his cherry-picking of Aranatha's quotes without context stinks of strawmanning.

[Aranatha]

 Gait, on 19 October 2016 - 08:12 PM, said:

 Aranatha, on 19 October 2016 - 08:05 PM, said:

Well, you've run rings around me logically, there...

I'll wait on Mokra's predictably vehement reply.

What I'm getting at is the only role to feel to need to make signals is symp signalling to his masters. Hence if you believe it might be a signal you will logically vote the one the presumed signal was aimed at because he is likely one of the presumed symp's masters. So I'm asking why are you voting presumed symp over a presumed master?

Because I'm not assuming that the signal (if it's a signal) is necessarily directed at the player (you) to whom Mockra replied to.

[Mockra]

 Aranatha, on 19 October 2016 - 07:58 PM, said:

I'm voting Mockra because he was so forceful in denying a specific accusation that was never even made.

I assumed that was the accusation. I am giving Lio the benefit of the doubt that he actually had a reason to point me out, rather than shoot the shit, or, as he ended up putting it, "genuinely sanity-checking" himself. I was wrong, I forgot Rule 1: Assume everyone else playing is an idiot.

And now you're voting me, because... I purposefully drew attention to the fact I'm signalling? Is that it?

I don't think that even merits on OMGUs at this point

[Gait]

 Aranatha, on 19 October 2016 - 08:21 PM, said:

 Gait, on 19 October 2016 - 08:12 PM, said:

 Aranatha, on 19 October 2016 - 08:05 PM, said:

Well, you've run rings around me logically, there...

I'll wait on Mokra's predictably vehement reply.

What I'm getting at is the only role to feel to need to make signals is symp signalling to his masters. Hence if you believe it might be a signal you will logically vote the one the presumed signal was aimed at because he is likely one of the presumed symp's masters. So I'm asking why are you voting presumed symp over a presumed master?

Because I'm not assuming that the signal (if it's a signal) is necessarily directed at the player (you) to whom Mockra replied to.

Well what kind of a signal is it then? The symp signal is to prove you're the damn symp, you ahve to show you have knowledge that RIs don't (i.e. killers' identity) otherwise anyone can do it(I know of once case when someone attempted it, it didn't go very well) and it's pointless.

[Mockra]

 Aranatha, on 19 October 2016 - 08:21 PM, said:

 Gait, on 19 October 2016 - 08:12 PM, said:

 Aranatha, on 19 October 2016 - 08:05 PM, said:

Well, you've run rings around me logically, there...

I'll wait on Mokra's predictably vehement reply.

What I'm getting at is the only role to feel to need to make signals is symp signalling to his masters. Hence if you believe it might be a signal you will logically vote the one the presumed signal was aimed at because he is likely one of the presumed symp's masters. So I'm asking why are you voting presumed symp over a presumed master?

Because I'm not assuming that the signal (if it's a signal) is necessarily directed at the player (you) to whom Mockra replied to.

Now you're just WIFOMing for the sake of WIFOMing. ONLy merit to making a symp case is if you ca point at the master (and vote the master). There's no way proving anyone's a symp, b/c they'll CF RI anyways.