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#1821 User is offline   Tsundoku 

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Posted 21 July 2026 - 08:10 AM

View PostAzath Vitr (D, on 20 July 2026 - 11:36 PM, said:

View PostIlluyankas, on 20 July 2026 - 11:02 PM, said:

I'd wait for some actual mathematicians to weigh in before trusting the lying slop machine, personally


As a specific counterexample it's very easy to formally verify. And yes, actual mathematicians have confirmed it.

As for "lying slop machine": Flagship models exhibit PhD-level intelligence across multiple fields. For mathematical proofs their logic can be automatically formally verified in Lean. But for a counterexample like this a few simple calculations are sufficient.

I've been using DeepSeek extensively in my study of graduate level pure mathematics. I always check its work rigorously, and it rarely makes mistakes. Research mathematicians have confirmed the extraordinary usefulness--and even the extraordinary creativity---of LLMs that have been enhanced with reasoning models.


Yeah ... don't use DeepSeek.
It may be a decent model by a lot of accounts, but it's even worse than the others for stealing your data and tracking you etc because this one is straight outta Beijing.
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#1822 User is online   Tiste Simeon 

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Posted 21 July 2026 - 08:27 AM

Implying Beijing is actually any worse than Silicone Valley/Washington DC.

Implying any AI is actually good.
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Posted 21 July 2026 - 09:57 AM

I'm too depressed after reading countless articles and papers about the cognitive erosion of gen AI users who've surrendered their own choices to LLMs, tech company staff who know they get zero to negative productivity from enforced gen AI but can't talk about it publicly else they'll be fired and blacklisted, and the state of public education being decimated with new graduates not knowing how to do anything without asking ChatGPT, that not even learning OpenAI is making less than 10% of the projected profits they claimed they'd need to make to stay solvent is enough to make me go on a tangent in the wrong thread

Or find the right thread for that matter
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Posted 21 July 2026 - 08:47 PM

so football then eh?

Actually on football, does anyone have a line on getting tickets to Anfield, cause fuck me its not easy anymore?

really trying to get 4 for the Fulham or City game
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Posted 22 July 2026 - 05:30 AM

View PostMacros, on 21 July 2026 - 08:47 PM, said:

so football then eh?

Actually on football, does anyone have a line on getting tickets to Anfield, cause fuck me its not easy anymore?

really trying to get 4 for the Fulham or City game

It's LFC so I believe the usual method is finding someone who has tickets and shanking them behind a nearby pub.
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Posted 22 July 2026 - 06:52 AM

View PostTiste Simeon, on 22 July 2026 - 05:30 AM, said:

View PostMacros, on 21 July 2026 - 08:47 PM, said:

so football then eh?

Actually on football, does anyone have a line on getting tickets to Anfield, cause fuck me its not easy anymore?

really trying to get 4 for the Fulham or City game

It's LFC so I believe the usual method is you and a bunch of your unemployed mates finding someone who has tickets and shanking them behind a nearby pub.


FTFY. ;)
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Posted 22 July 2026 - 01:14 PM

So.... same as most teams then
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Posted 22 July 2026 - 07:27 PM

Pretty much. Just with whinier accents.
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Posted 23 July 2026 - 09:56 AM

Alright alright calm down!
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Posted 30 July 2026 - 09:12 AM

Eddie Howe has left Newcastle.

He didn't have his best season last year, but he managed such a brilliant run that felt like fans could have hope again after the long slump under MIke Ashley. And it looks like they're parachuting in a pet manager from a Saudi league club in his place. Yay.

I can't help but feel this is us relegated next season. We've had another shocking transfer window and looks like we'll end it with most of our best players having departed if Arsenal get Guimaraes.

Probably not something a lot of football fans care about, but in a sport that's riddled with too much money and a culture of cheating within the game (I struggle on and off with following it), it felt nice having someone so thoroughly decent at the helm.

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Posted 30 July 2026 - 07:33 PM

And EUFA are going to boycott the WC if the stupid private investors thing goes ahead! This is huge! I fully support it.
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Posted 30 July 2026 - 10:07 PM

Yeah but they won't
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Posted 31 July 2026 - 06:30 AM

Oh no doubt some performative "deal" will be reached which no one except those getting richer off it will be pleased with.
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Posted 31 July 2026 - 07:55 AM

View PostTheRetiredBridgeburner, on 30 July 2026 - 09:12 AM, said:

Eddie Howe has left Newcastle.

He didn't have his best season last year, but he managed such a brilliant run that felt like fans could have hope again after the long slump under MIke Ashley. And it looks like they're parachuting in a pet manager from a Saudi league club in his place. Yay.

I can't help but feel this is us relegated next season. We've had another shocking transfer window and looks like we'll end it with most of our best players having departed if Arsenal get Guimaraes.

Probably not something a lot of football fans care about, but in a sport that's riddled with too much money and a culture of cheating within the game (I struggle on and off with following it), it felt nice having someone so thoroughly decent at the helm.

I didn't mean to ignore this yesterday (I wanted to post about EUFA etc. but yeah this seems like a bit of a weird move and I suspect he's not in line with what the rich owners want to do.

Shearer has written a good article about this: https://www.bbc.co.u...es/cd0xvpmny55o
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Posted 02 August 2026 - 08:17 PM

 Tiste Simeon, on 31 July 2026 - 07:55 AM, said:

 TheRetiredBridgeburner, on 30 July 2026 - 09:12 AM, said:

Eddie Howe has left Newcastle.

He didn't have his best season last year, but he managed such a brilliant run that felt like fans could have hope again after the long slump under MIke Ashley. And it looks like they're parachuting in a pet manager from a Saudi league club in his place. Yay.

I can't help but feel this is us relegated next season. We've had another shocking transfer window and looks like we'll end it with most of our best players having departed if Arsenal get Guimaraes.

Probably not something a lot of football fans care about, but in a sport that's riddled with too much money and a culture of cheating within the game (I struggle on and off with following it), it felt nice having someone so thoroughly decent at the helm.

I didn't mean to ignore this yesterday (I wanted to post about EUFA etc. but yeah this seems like a bit of a weird move and I suspect he's not in line with what the rich owners want to do.

Shearer has written a good article about this: https://www.bbc.co.u...es/cd0xvpmny55o


A good read, thank you!

To be honest having read Howe's statement it seems to be his own decision and he sounds exhausted. I'm still sad to see him go but I feel less bad than if he'd been sacked. And it's been nice reading the overwhelmingly lovely things players past and present have had to say about him the last couple of days.
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