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I'm been around the forum for a tad, but I haven't had to post much. But I found interesting the thread in this forum about R. Scott Bakker's trilogy, The Prince of Nothing. Because I live in Canada, I already own and have read book 1 (The Darkness That Comes Before) and book 2 (The Warrior-Prophet), and I must say they are amazing.
I'm making this thread to clear up some information. They're out in Canada, with book 3 (The Thousandfold Thought) being released on December 30th.
The trilogy follows a Holy War as it marches to the holy city of the Ladder Prophet (Inri Sejenus), Shimeh, deep in 'heathen' territory. It follows a mid-aged sorceror, Drusas Achamian; his prostitute lover, Esmenet; a barbarian, Cnaiur; his 'prize', Serwe; and the mysterious and intellectual, Anasurimbar Kellhus. Keep in mind, it's filled with amazingly written characters, like Nersei Proyas, Ikuri Conphas and Sarcellus.
The novel hovers on the line between the Holy War, and the possible coming of the Second Apolcalypse, and the No-God, Mog-Pharau (hence my login name).
It's easily one of the top fantasy series I have yet to read (though I haven't read The Thousandfold Thought yet...), and it contains some of the most amazing dialogue you'll ever read, some of the most beautifully-created battle scenes, and it's such an emotionally-wanning novel, that you'll be tired by the end of it.
But anyways, I just created this thread to clarify some of the speculation from the other thread. To recap:
Book 1: The Darkness That Comes Before
Book 2: The Warrior-Prophet
Book 3: The Thousandfold Thought
After the conclusion of The Prince of Nothing, Bakker will write and release a second trilogy that takes place twenty years after the end of the Thousandfold Thought, entitled The Aspect-Emperor. Very little information is released about that, but it's certain to be as amazing as The Prince of Nothing.
Enjoy the novels as much as I did, and I'll post a review of each book here in the next little while.
Any questions about the series or the author, feel free to ask it here.
R. Scott Bakker - Prince of Nothing information
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Posted 16 August 2005 - 08:21 AM
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"Because I live in Canada, I already own and have read book 1 (The Darkness That Comes Before) and book 2 (The Warrior-Prophet), and I must say they are amazing."
Both books are available in the U.S. and U.K., the fact you live in Canada is irrelevant.
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"I'm making this thread to clear up some information. They're out in Canada, with book 3 (The Thousandfold Thought) being released on December 30th.
I contacted Scott not 2 weeks ago due to the discrepancy between the December 30 dates, and January 14 dates he annonuced when I interviewed him, regarding 'The Thousandfold Thought'
The December 30 date is when the product ships, the release date is January 14.
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Posted 16 August 2005 - 10:05 AM
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I've only read the first book and I really liked it. It took me a while to get into but when it finaly did it really got on par with George Martin and Erikson himself, I thought.
I agree, absolutely terriific series thus far.
I am currently rereading 'The Darkness That Comes Before', and will get to The Warrior Prophet' to get ready for 'The Thousandfold Thought'.
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Posted 16 August 2005 - 07:25 PM
It's hardly irrelevant as to where the poster is posting from as the second book was not out yet in Hong Kong when I was there recently and neither is out in Australia except as import. The glib and flippant response would almost indicate some kind of one-sided pissing contest. Not complaining though. They are such fun to watch.
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Posted 16 August 2005 - 07:38 PM
Ainulindale said:
Both books are available in the U.S. and U.K., the fact you live in Canada is irrelevant.
They both were released in Canada first, and later in the US and the UK. Chances are, The Thousandfold Thought will be released in Canada earlier, as well. And even if it isn't, the other two were released earlier. So no, it isn't irrelevant.
The Darkness That Comes Before was released on April 15, 2003 in Canada. May 31, 2005, in the USA.
The Warrior-Prophet was released in Canada on July 18, 2004, and in the USA on January 13, 2005.
These numbers are based on the Amazon online shopping sites, relative to each country. As well, based on that these books were released later than they were in Canada, one could make the conclusion that the same may occur with The Thousandfold Thought.
Ainulindale said:
I contacted Scott not 2 weeks ago due to the discrepancy between the December 30 dates, and January 14 dates he annonuced when I interviewed him, regarding 'The Thousandfold Thought'
The December 30 date is when the product ships, the release date is January 14.
The December 30 date is when the product ships, the release date is January 14.
Ah, I see. Us over at Bakker's official forum (http://forum.three-seas.com/) are under the impression that it's out on December 30th.
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Posted 16 August 2005 - 08:25 PM
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Ah, I see. Us over at Bakker's official forum (http://forum.three-seas.com/) are under the impression that it's out on December 30th.
Look at what Mr. Bakker posted:
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The shipping date for Penguin, Canada is December 30th; [bold]the actual pub date is two weeks later[/bold]. I imagine Overlook's timing will be identical in the US.
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These numbers are based on the Amazon online shopping sites, relative to each country. As well, based on that these books were released later than they were in Canada, one could make the conclusion that the same may occur with The Thousandfold Thought.
We don't have to conclude anything, just ask him like I did, The U.S. and Canadian release date as far as he knows is January 13 2006, the U.K date is May 2006. This is confirmed via email with Mr. Bakker who has promised to keep FBS informed, as I asked him as soon as I heard about the 30th date, and he confirmed the info he gave me at his site "Ships December 30, release date 2 weeks later".
I have no reason to lie about the info, or discredit you, I'm merely giving info as I have it (which happens to mirror what Scott posted on the forum you linked) - we are both promoting 'Prince of Nothing' so no reason to be defensive.
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It's hardly irrelevant as to where the poster is posting from as the second book was not out yet in Hong Kong when I was there recently and neither is out in Australia except as import. The glib and flippant response would almost indicate some kind of one-sided pissing contest. Not complaining though. They are such fun to watch.
What Gyrehead would no doubt tell you, the post Mr. Bakker made at his forum clearly mirrors what I just stated.
I find it reasonable to conclude people would want the correct publication date, which I provided, not just the shipping date.
I apologize to No-God if he felt I was competeing with him, certainly it was not the case, the idea of competeing with anyone on a online messageboard is not something that is a part of my train of thought.
My response may indeed have been glib, but I detected an attempt at wit at my expense, so consider the response accordingly, I certainly meant not to degrade anyone - we are both just trying to pimp Mr. Bakker's work.
Again No-God my sincere apologies for my response if you took it in negative fashion - however if it's something you didn't agree with it would have been best to PM me about it then making your attempt at wit.
Also, I certainly am not saying the dates cannot change or set in stone we all know that dates are subject to change at a moemtns notice - I am just relaying the latest info I happened to have - to find fault in this, I think is absurd. I have a great amount of respect for Mr. Bakker and his work, I certainly have no ill-words for his fanbase or The Three Seas forum, which is a wonderful community (mostly due to Mr. Bakker participation) and well put together.
So if we can get past the elementary remarks (me included, and especially from the constant peanut gallery), Let's talk Prince of Nothing.
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Posted 17 August 2005 - 05:30 PM
No, no, no offense taken. If what you said is right, and my information was slightly incorrect, well now I have the correct information 
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It's a win-win situation.
After reading the first two books of this series, I'd rate this as close to on par with the Malazan Book of the Fallen than any other book, I think. Assuming, that is, that The Thousandfold Thought doesn't ruin it, but I'm certain it won't.
You guys seen the cover for book 3 yet? Here it is...
.It's a win-win situation.
After reading the first two books of this series, I'd rate this as close to on par with the Malazan Book of the Fallen than any other book, I think. Assuming, that is, that The Thousandfold Thought doesn't ruin it, but I'm certain it won't.
You guys seen the cover for book 3 yet? Here it is...
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Posted 17 August 2005 - 05:45 PM
About the cover, and I know it doesn't mean much - I love the covers in this series. Very classy look.
I agree, except i'd switch it with A Song of Ice and Fire, however those are the 3 series IMHo that are pacing epic fantasy at the moment. I have high expecations of TTT, out of all the discussion I have had with various authors (whether that's a lot or a little) whether on messageboards or in private correspondence Mr. Bakker's comments is the one I remember most when he said to me, about TTT :
"Love it or hate it, people will not soon forget reading this motherfo'”.
That's what I'm talking about! I simply can't wait!
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After reading the first two books of this series, I'd rate this as close to on par with the Malazan Book of the Fallen than any other book, I think. Assuming, that is, that The Thousandfold Thought doesn't ruin it, but I'm certain it won't.
I agree, except i'd switch it with A Song of Ice and Fire, however those are the 3 series IMHo that are pacing epic fantasy at the moment. I have high expecations of TTT, out of all the discussion I have had with various authors (whether that's a lot or a little) whether on messageboards or in private correspondence Mr. Bakker's comments is the one I remember most when he said to me, about TTT :
"Love it or hate it, people will not soon forget reading this motherfo'”.
That's what I'm talking about! I simply can't wait!
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Posted 17 August 2005 - 07:41 PM
haha Damn right.
I, too, love the covers. In fact, it was the cover of The Darkness That Comes Before that attracted my attention to it at the Mosaic Bookstore in Kelowna. Read the back, thought it sounded half-decent (to my surprise...) and bought it. It was actually my first high fantasy novel (before which my favorite author was R.A. Salvatore...*shudder*). I own all of the released books of the Song of Ice & Fire, but I haven't actually read all of the first one yet. It's very good so far. As far as the Malazan Book of the Fallen, I've only read up to the House of Chains. So, I'm relatively new to the high fantasy genre, but I hope to be catchy up pretty damn soon haha.
I, too, love the covers. In fact, it was the cover of The Darkness That Comes Before that attracted my attention to it at the Mosaic Bookstore in Kelowna. Read the back, thought it sounded half-decent (to my surprise...) and bought it. It was actually my first high fantasy novel (before which my favorite author was R.A. Salvatore...*shudder*). I own all of the released books of the Song of Ice & Fire, but I haven't actually read all of the first one yet. It's very good so far. As far as the Malazan Book of the Fallen, I've only read up to the House of Chains. So, I'm relatively new to the high fantasy genre, but I hope to be catchy up pretty damn soon haha.
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Posted 18 August 2005 - 02:10 AM
I found the first book pretty good but I have no interest in buying the 2nd. Overrated imo :eek: er actually i'll ammend that. If I had the spare cash I prolly would buy it and the third but they arn't very high up on my to read list.
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Posted 18 August 2005 - 07:31 AM
Ainulindale said:
About the cover, and I know it doesn't mean much - I love the covers in this series. Very classy look.
Same here... I actually back-ordered the first from America cos I couldn't get it here for love nor money. Beautiful hardback series.
On a side note... I predicted red for TTT
Yay me.
Don't fuck with the Culture.
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Posted 22 August 2005 - 07:22 PM
Just got my trade paperback copy of TWP and guess what... Ur-Lord, Mithfãnion and Loosecannon feature in the author's acknowledgements! Kudos guys
A long time since I've 'seen' them around, though...
A long time since I've 'seen' them around, though...
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Posted 23 August 2005 - 07:07 AM
the follow up will probably be even better than The Prince of Nothing
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Posted 23 August 2005 - 07:35 AM
:eek3: Follow up? Do you mean a new series?
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Posted 23 August 2005 - 08:44 AM
Thanks for the info 
so there's lots of good stuff to look forward to. I am about a hundred pages into tWP, and it already sucked me into this interesting world again
so there's lots of good stuff to look forward to. I am about a hundred pages into tWP, and it already sucked me into this interesting world again
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Posted 23 August 2005 - 10:16 AM
i have the prince of nothing after it was recommended to me from this forum while waiting for BH...to be honest i found it didn't live up to expectations..nowhere near the complexity and scope of erikson
I did like the dunyain and Kelhus though...interesting idea...but unless there is nothing else to read...probably won't buy bk 2 or 3
oh well
I did like the dunyain and Kelhus though...interesting idea...but unless there is nothing else to read...probably won't buy bk 2 or 3
oh well
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Posted 25 August 2005 - 01:30 PM
cover needs a little work lol, but can't wait for the story:D Such a well written story.
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