[Eloth]

Serc, on 12 August 2016 - 01:11 PM, said:

Quick break at work, one thing to add.

Eloth:

Eloth, on 12 August 2016 - 11:12 AM, said:

The grasp - sumo case is the most logical and clear case we have, but symp hunting is a waste, it's he masters we want.
The grasp case (for those who don't get it) he clearly and deliberately lays out 3 names of people he thinks are roped. Bang, night one denesmet (on his list) gets nailed, guard dead. If grasp wasn't signalling his killer masters he's just a fucking idiot and should be insta lynched the next 3 games as punishment

It's not Grasp that dropped the names, it's Monok. Look:

Monok Ochem, on 10 August 2016 - 08:44 PM, said:

Denesmet, on 10 August 2016 - 02:31 PM, said:

Silanah, on 10 August 2016 - 02:13 PM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 10 August 2016 - 08:33 AM, said:

In the words of He-Man,

"I have the Power!"

Vote Lock

I have this feeling that this post is going to be the Day 1 shitshow no real case vote...

I suspect there's a joke there most people (including myself) didn't get.

Oops.

Like this is quite big isn't it.

So your 100% roled. Nice one. So we got Eloth, Silanah and Den. Anyone else?

Hence my theory that Monok was symp, not Grasp.

Monok, Grasp and Ultama all dropped the names.

words are for reading!

[Lock]

Eloth, on 12 August 2016 - 02:11 PM, said:

Serc, on 12 August 2016 - 01:11 PM, said:

Quick break at work, one thing to add.

Eloth:

Eloth, on 12 August 2016 - 11:12 AM, said:

The grasp - sumo case is the most logical and clear case we have, but symp hunting is a waste, it's he masters we want.
The grasp case (for those who don't get it) he clearly and deliberately lays out 3 names of people he thinks are roped. Bang, night one denesmet (on his list) gets nailed, guard dead. If grasp wasn't signalling his killer masters he's just a fucking idiot and should be insta lynched the next 3 games as punishment

It's not Grasp that dropped the names, it's Monok. Look:

Monok Ochem, on 10 August 2016 - 08:44 PM, said:

Denesmet, on 10 August 2016 - 02:31 PM, said:

Silanah, on 10 August 2016 - 02:13 PM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 10 August 2016 - 08:33 AM, said:

In the words of He-Man,

"I have the Power!"

Vote Lock

I have this feeling that this post is going to be the Day 1 shitshow no real case vote...

I suspect there's a joke there most people (including myself) didn't get.

Oops.

Like this is quite big isn't it.

So your 100% roled. Nice one. So we got Eloth, Silanah and Den. Anyone else?

Hence my theory that Monok was symp, not Grasp.

Monok, Grasp and Ultama all dropped the names.

They didn't come up with them but seem more than happy to follow them

Grasp, on 11 August 2016 - 06:15 PM, said:

Well, I'm still okay to

vote Eloth

Grasp, on 11 August 2016 - 02:41 PM, said:

Liosan, on 11 August 2016 - 02:36 PM, said:

Grasp, on 11 August 2016 - 02:35 PM, said:

Dear lord you people are dense. Voting out a PI cause you don't like the way he plays is a ridiculous move. You should have left him for scum to waste a kill on.

So day 1 and you've already PId him?

Yeah, he pulled a move I've seen a million times, and it's brilliant even if it does skirt the 'no reveals' rule in a frustrating way. Frankly, the only way to prevent such a thing is for the mod to post the RI PM right off the bat, then there's no using the wording to PI yourself, which is what Monok did with the "I have the power" comment and Lock VPI'd himself by noting where it likely comes from.

I mean, believe what you will, that's fine. But I think that there were much more interesting people to look at - i.e. Silanah, Denesmet and Eloth - who've all professed to not understanding what we're on about.

I certainly won't be moving my vote over to someone I am pretty sure is RI.

Grasp, on 11 August 2016 - 07:39 PM, said:

Skintick, on 11 August 2016 - 06:47 PM, said:

Grasp, on 11 August 2016 - 06:15 PM, said:

Well, I'm still okay to

vote Eloth

Really? Again for not getting the he-man post? Denesmet also did not get it and he was our guard.

I have to agree with Eloth that you are acting strange. But I'm not sure if you are symp as I don't have a clue who you may symping.

Dear Lord, it's cause I'm not symping anyone!

Listen, regards the whole power thing, Monok PI'd himself to me because of that, and Lock is VPI as far as I'm concerned. Of those who didn't seem to get it, we still have Silanah and Eloth alive. Yes, they MAY be roled town, but at this point, I think it's more likely that they're scum. I'd be willing to switch my vote over to Silanah instead of Eloth, but those two are the only ones who I'm willing to vote for unless someone shows me any kind of case.

[Bendal Home]

I am out today and the weekend. I won't be on hardly at all. I will catch up on Monday.

[Grasp]

Lock, on 12 August 2016 - 02:15 PM, said:

Eloth, on 12 August 2016 - 02:11 PM, said:

Serc, on 12 August 2016 - 01:11 PM, said:

Quick break at work, one thing to add.

Eloth:

Eloth, on 12 August 2016 - 11:12 AM, said:

The grasp - sumo case is the most logical and clear case we have, but symp hunting is a waste, it's he masters we want.
The grasp case (for those who don't get it) he clearly and deliberately lays out 3 names of people he thinks are roped. Bang, night one denesmet (on his list) gets nailed, guard dead. If grasp wasn't signalling his killer masters he's just a fucking idiot and should be insta lynched the next 3 games as punishment

It's not Grasp that dropped the names, it's Monok. Look:

Monok Ochem, on 10 August 2016 - 08:44 PM, said:

Denesmet, on 10 August 2016 - 02:31 PM, said:

Silanah, on 10 August 2016 - 02:13 PM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 10 August 2016 - 08:33 AM, said:

In the words of He-Man,

"I have the Power!"

Vote Lock

I have this feeling that this post is going to be the Day 1 shitshow no real case vote...

I suspect there's a joke there most people (including myself) didn't get.

Oops.

Like this is quite big isn't it.

So your 100% roled. Nice one. So we got Eloth, Silanah and Den. Anyone else?

Hence my theory that Monok was symp, not Grasp.

Monok, Grasp and Ultama all dropped the names.

They didn't come up with them but seem more than happy to follow them

Grasp, on 11 August 2016 - 06:15 PM, said:

Well, I'm still okay to

vote Eloth

Grasp, on 11 August 2016 - 02:41 PM, said:

Liosan, on 11 August 2016 - 02:36 PM, said:

Grasp, on 11 August 2016 - 02:35 PM, said:

Dear lord you people are dense. Voting out a PI cause you don't like the way he plays is a ridiculous move. You should have left him for scum to waste a kill on.

So day 1 and you've already PId him?

Yeah, he pulled a move I've seen a million times, and it's brilliant even if it does skirt the 'no reveals' rule in a frustrating way. Frankly, the only way to prevent such a thing is for the mod to post the RI PM right off the bat, then there's no using the wording to PI yourself, which is what Monok did with the "I have the power" comment and Lock VPI'd himself by noting where it likely comes from.

I mean, believe what you will, that's fine. But I think that there were much more interesting people to look at - i.e. Silanah, Denesmet and Eloth - who've all professed to not understanding what we're on about.

I certainly won't be moving my vote over to someone I am pretty sure is RI.

Grasp, on 11 August 2016 - 07:39 PM, said:

Skintick, on 11 August 2016 - 06:47 PM, said:

Grasp, on 11 August 2016 - 06:15 PM, said:

Well, I'm still okay to

vote Eloth

Really? Again for not getting the he-man post? Denesmet also did not get it and he was our guard.

I have to agree with Eloth that you are acting strange. But I'm not sure if you are symp as I don't have a clue who you may symping.

Dear Lord, it's cause I'm not symping anyone!

Listen, regards the whole power thing, Monok PI'd himself to me because of that, and Lock is VPI as far as I'm concerned. Of those who didn't seem to get it, we still have Silanah and Eloth alive. Yes, they MAY be roled town, but at this point, I think it's more likely that they're scum. I'd be willing to switch my vote over to Silanah instead of Eloth, but those two are the only ones who I'm willing to vote for unless someone shows me any kind of case.

Absolutely I am, because the strategy is sound. The likeliness that we'll hit a scum or two in that group was always high. It's only become higher now that one of them was killed as a town guard.

[Ultama]

The only reason I bring those three up is because Monok's ruse has proven successful, although I will concede that Eloth is probably nothing more than RI because of that hissyfit, and if he is acting, hats off to him.

We can't really ignore the Elephant in the room imho. Just logically follows.

I am not sure I buy the symp logic for monok. It would take quite a stretch of forethought to come up with that, and it would risk his masters as much if not more than roled town.

vote Sil

[Serc]

Another 20 minutes off before heading back to RL bullshit.

@Eloth
I stand corrected regarding Grasp and name dropping. I looked it up, the timeline is actually something like this:

Monok sets up his bait. Lock explains the RI PM trap. Grasp votes Silanah. Monok votes Eloth. Grasp switches to Eloth. Monok writes this to Den:

Quote

So your 100% roled. Nice one. So we got Eloth, Silanah and Den. Anyone else?

Ultama indeed repeated the list later, but it was in context of Monok putting target marks over these three people. Didn't really stand out to me:

Quote

Second, if Monok's ploy did work, we have to worry about the people he mentioned being trapped: Eloth, Sil, and Den. Any one of those three could be scum, or worse, town roled.

Grasp's play is suspicious. Is it more suspicious than Silanah's. Not sure. I'm leaning towards one of these two, but didn't have time for a thorough read so holding off with a vote for now.

@Ultama
I'm not so sure about Eloth's outburst. It looks righteous enough... and therefore is exactly the kind of twisted shit I would expect from at least some of the players on the roster

Out, maybe able to post something in a couple of hours.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 18 hours and 45 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: Bendal Home, Eloth, Fener, gait, Grasp, Karosis, Lock, Serc, silanah, Skintick, Ultama

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

1 vote Gait (Karosis)
1 vote Eloth (Grasp)
2 votes Silanah (Eloth, Ultama)

Players not voted: Bendal Home, Fener, gait, , Lock, Serc, silanah, Skintick

[Ultama]

You do have a point. I doubt eloth has a role with actions so to speak, but I guess there is always a possibility he is the symp. But how we would figure that out, not sure. Hmm complicates things on Sil, but I am not sure we can avoid lynching him at this point.

[Path-Shaper]

FYI - the freeze will start at 6 PM PST. If you lynch over the weekend, one of us will resolve.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. The clock has been frozen with 09 Hours and 00 Minutes remaining.

11 Players still alive: Bendal Home, Eloth, Fener, gait, Grasp, Karosis, Lock, Serc, silanah, Skintick, Ultama

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for gait ( Karosis )
2 Votes for silanah ( Eloth, Ultama )
1 Vote for Eloth ( Grasp )

Players not voted: Bendal Home, Fener, gait, Lock, Serc, silanah, Skintick

[Eloth]

Timer will be coming unstuck soon, so realistically we have 9/10 hours.

[Ultama]

I am around if you want to throw back and forth ideas.

[Grasp]

Happy Monday folks.

[Grasp]

Ultama, on 12 August 2016 - 05:44 PM, said:

I doubt eloth has a role with actions so to speak

Just wondering what would make you doubt such a thing?

[Serc]

No better idea has surfaced, so I'm leaning towards Silanah, mostly based on this little gentle nudge towards creating a shitstorm on D1 and the early D2 comment. But Grasp is definitely one to watch as well, so if we get some traction there, I can switch. I'm around for the next couple of hours and will be dropping by to check what's happening.

vote Silanah

[Ultama]

Grasp, on 15 August 2016 - 02:11 PM, said:

Ultama, on 12 August 2016 - 05:44 PM, said:

I doubt eloth has a role with actions so to speak

Just wondering what would make you doubt such a thing?

Can you imagine someone playing chicken with PS like that if they had a role with night actions? He/she definitely was ready ton leave. It is possible yes, but I gauge a lower probability.

[Grasp]

I mean, Eloth 'playing chicken with PS' was just exactly what the player who's most likely behind the alt would do. I know because he has made his point extremely clear in many previous games.

Eloth, on 11 August 2016 - 09:15 PM, said:

Pathshaper, Sloth needs a replacement

Eta - hah, Eloth autos to sloth

This right here is what makes me believe that he's likely got SOME kind of role. RIs don't generally need replacements.

[Eloth]

It's called not flaking on a game, you ask for replacement, you don't just drop out of a game unless a RL emergency crops.
I'm RI, if that helps.

I on a ferry right now, and will have internet when I get to hotel in about 2 hours.
I would like the rest of the roster to check in again at least.

[Eloth]

Why the reluctance to look at Silanah grasp? You listed him several times after tatts 'brilliant' play that cost us a guard.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 8 hours and 53 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: Bendal Home, Eloth, Fener, gait, Grasp, Karosis, Lock, Serc, silanah, Skintick, Ultama

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for gait ( Karosis )
3 Votes for silanah ( Eloth, Ultama, Serc )
1 Vote for Eloth ( Grasp )

Players not voted: Bendal Home, Fener, gait, Lock, silanah, Skintick

(Sorry for the late unfreezing guys, I didn't expect to sleep so long. -JPK)