[Ultama]

What does Silanah have to say for itself?

[Path-Shaper]

Eloth, on 11 August 2016 - 11:27 PM, said:

Silanah, on 11 August 2016 - 05:17 PM, said:

Oh fuck.... fuckity fuck

What the hell was Tattersail thinking?

It took an extra vote to lynch... that means one vote of the 8 didn't count

If we're sure it's meat and Poe now I'll stick.

This post, it's the type of post I make as a killer, the first part, the extra vote thing, well that could be anything.

But it doesn't jive with grasp symp, as he listed sil in his could be roped handing killers denesmet guard post.

Will need to read day 1 again

I think it is fairly straight forward despite doubts folks may have based on modding shenanigans. IMO the mechanics are fairly balanced.

- Bliss (Keeping PS sexy one day at a time)

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 11 August 2016 - 11:56 PM

[Serc]

I missed some drama. Bad timing, because RL is getting in the way and I won't be able to contribute much before the freeze. Will be lurking and if there's a case will throw in a vote, but definitely won't have time to do a full re-read before weekend.

Anyway, quick stream of consciousness before I go to sleep. First, where is the Grasp = symp coming from? I mean if Monok CFd scum that would make perfect sense, but since Monok turned out town, I don't see a strong symping case on Grasp. Sure, their PI on Monok and VPI on Lock are nonsense, but this can just as well be bad town play. Which BTW might be a good reason to vote them off, not sure about it tho.

I feel like Monok might have been the symp with his bold attempt to lure out roled players and point them out to killers. It worked with Den.

I also don't like Silanah's play so far. First the gentle nudge towards Monok's post on D1 and now I agree with Eloth: the post at the beginning of D2 triggered my spidey sense too. It's mostly gut, admittedly, but it feels fake.

Silanah, on 11 August 2016 - 05:17 PM, said:

Oh fuck.... fuckity fuck

What the hell was Tattersail thinking?

It took an extra vote to lynch... that means one vote of the 8 didn't count

[Silanah]

Well now that we are back to an M&P once again, Grasp's actions make no sense.

[Gait]

Lady Bliss, on 11 August 2016 - 09:39 PM, said:

FFS. Drama much? Don't blame JPK, it was my idea for the mod puppet hence xtra TMDI. Bliss aka Liosan aka puppet OUT. You are now back to an M&P game.

Heh, my guess was going to have been someone controlling two alts. Been a long while since we had a mod puppet (that I remember).

[Gait]

Eloth, on 11 August 2016 - 11:27 PM, said:

Silanah, on 11 August 2016 - 05:17 PM, said:

Oh fuck.... fuckity fuck

What the hell was Tattersail thinking?

It took an extra vote to lynch... that means one vote of the 8 didn't count

If we're sure it's meat and Poe now I'll stick.

This post, it's the type of post I make as a killer, the first part, the extra vote thing, well that could be anything.

But it doesn't jive with grasp symp, as he listed sil in his could be roped handing killers denesmet guard post.

Will need to read day 1 again

Yeah, it's the same feeling I've got from Silanah's posting since - well, since they first posted.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 29 hours and 11 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: Bendal Home, Eloth, Fener, gait, Grasp, Karosis, Lock, Serc, silanah, Skintick, Ultama

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Eloth ( Grasp )
1 Vote for gait ( Karosis )

Players not voted: Bendal Home, Eloth, Fener, gait, Lock, Serc, silanah, Skintick, Ultama

[Karosis]

I'm out to a beer festival all day today.

Don't go expecting posting, if there is any it'll likely be drunk.

[Skintick]

Wow, looks like I missed a lot. At least the mystery of the additional vote is solved.

Karosis, on 12 August 2016 - 07:11 AM, said:

I'm out to a beer festival all day today.

Don't go expecting posting, if there is any it'll likely be drunk.

Have fun.
But I don't think that voting for Gait due to a mistake in writing by PS is a good idea. It has to be a mistake. Marking scum would make no sense.

Serc, on 12 August 2016 - 01:52 AM, said:

I missed some drama. Bad timing, because RL is getting in the way and I won't be able to contribute much before the freeze. Will be lurking and if there's a case will throw in a vote, but definitely won't have time to do a full re-read before weekend.

Anyway, quick stream of consciousness before I go to sleep. First, where is the Grasp = symp coming from? I mean if Monok CFd scum that would make perfect sense, but since Monok turned out town, I don't see a strong symping case on Grasp. Sure, their PI on Monok and VPI on Lock are nonsense, but this can just as well be bad town play. Which BTW might be a good reason to vote them off, not sure about it tho.

I feel like Monok might have been the symp with his bold attempt to lure out roled players and point them out to killers. It worked with Den.

I also don't like Silanah's play so far. First the gentle nudge towards Monok's post on D1 and now I agree with Eloth: the post at the beginning of D2 triggered my spidey sense too. It's mostly gut, admittedly, but it feels fake.

Silanah, on 11 August 2016 - 05:17 PM, said:

Oh fuck.... fuckity fuck

What the hell was Tattersail thinking?

It took an extra vote to lynch... that means one vote of the 8 didn't count

Grasp = symp was just a try to explain the strange game by them. But I can't see a connection to another player. So they are either a very strange, suicidical symp, also possible or it is just bad town play as you wrote.

Silanah... Okay, this post feels strange a bit. I will have a look later after work.

[Eloth]

The grasp - sumo case is the most logical and clear case we have, but symp hunting is a waste, it's he masters we want.
The grasp case (for those who don't get it) he clearly and deliberately lays out 3 names of people he thinks are roped. Bang, night one denesmet (on his list) gets nailed, guard dead. If grasp wasn't signalling his killer masters he's just a fucking idiot and should be insta lynched the next 3 games as punishment

[Eloth]

Path-Shaper, on 11 August 2016 - 03:51 PM, said:

The Shaper appreciates the feedback from the peanut gallery. No modkills at this point, but as a point: ABSOLUTELY NO REVEALS ALLOWED. NO PARAPHRASING OF ROLE EMAILS. NO INTERPRETIVE DANCE. NO PICTURES (unless they are naked and sent to the PS account).

just reading this again.
no modkills at that point. was this because the Monok lynch looked inevitable, or was it because Monok hadn't broke any rules, as he was a symp and as such he had not paraphrased his pm, but had just paraphrased the pm he had gotten in many previous games? this weighs now heavily on my mind.
off my reread I have bad feelings on Silanah and Karosis, mixed feelings on Liosan, bendal home and Serc, and kind of meh, falls into the possibly symp category as feelings on Ultama.

The only thing holding me off a Silanah vote right now is that my 3 possible symp thoughts have all listed him as a potential pressure/ vote target at some stage or another. so this doesn't jive.
Going to look at Karosis' and Silanahs posts in isolation to see if I can figure out what it is that's bothering me

[Eloth]

Karosis, on 11 August 2016 - 10:12 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 11 August 2016 - 10:00 PM, said:

It is Day 2. 35 hours and 59 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: Bendal Home, Eloth, Fener, gait, Grasp, Karosis, Lock, Serc, silanah, Skintick, Ultama

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Bendal Home, Eloth, Fener, gait, Grasp, Karosis, Lock, Serc, silanah, Skintick, Ultama

Hmm, timer reset anyone?

Also am I alone in recalling that game where MM was being used and it listed alts in the order they were input and Gnaw had put scum in first thereby a PS update listed them fist in the "alive" and "not-voted" then the rest alphabetically? Just saying because Gait and Silanah are not capitalised.

For the moment that line of enquiry is going to lead me to

Vote Gait

Also, low-poster

I think its this one, why bring up this MM possibility then, of the two options, pick the one with zero suspicion on? if you're following this trail Silanah is your logical vote. My head now says, aha, it seems like a easy train to start if its happened before, lynch Gait, he comes up inno, day wasted and Silanah walks away whistling like Keyser Soze. However even I'm aware that that is theoryland on acid.

I still like the idea of hearing more from Silanah, but I would like Karosis to address this for me.

vote Silanah

[Lock]

Ultama, on 11 August 2016 - 11:41 PM, said:

...Eloth seems to have proven himself useless to the game plot via his hissyfit.

I disagree about this, Bliss stepped out because of his hissyfit. He was the only one to really complain at that point

On phone so no fancy quotes but from D1 train I particularly dislike, decreasingly in this order, votes by Ultima, Serc and Silanah. I'm tempted to add Bengal to the list but I find their reasons and comments along the vote somehow more townish than others

[Lock]

Eloth, on 12 August 2016 - 12:42 PM, said:

off my reread I have ... mixed feelings on Liosan

Could you elaborate this please?

[Serc]

Quick break at work, one thing to add.

Eloth:

Eloth, on 12 August 2016 - 11:12 AM, said:

The grasp - sumo case is the most logical and clear case we have, but symp hunting is a waste, it's he masters we want.
The grasp case (for those who don't get it) he clearly and deliberately lays out 3 names of people he thinks are roped. Bang, night one denesmet (on his list) gets nailed, guard dead. If grasp wasn't signalling his killer masters he's just a fucking idiot and should be insta lynched the next 3 games as punishment

It's not Grasp that dropped the names, it's Monok. Look:

Monok Ochem, on 10 August 2016 - 08:44 PM, said:

Denesmet, on 10 August 2016 - 02:31 PM, said:

Silanah, on 10 August 2016 - 02:13 PM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 10 August 2016 - 08:33 AM, said:

In the words of He-Man,

"I have the Power!"

Vote Lock

I have this feeling that this post is going to be the Day 1 shitshow no real case vote...

I suspect there's a joke there most people (including myself) didn't get.

Oops.

Like this is quite big isn't it.

So your 100% roled. Nice one. So we got Eloth, Silanah and Den. Anyone else?

Hence my theory that Monok was symp, not Grasp.

[Silanah]

Gait, on 12 August 2016 - 02:04 AM, said:

Eloth, on 11 August 2016 - 11:27 PM, said:

Silanah, on 11 August 2016 - 05:17 PM, said:

Oh fuck.... fuckity fuckWhat the hell was Tattersail thinking?It took an extra vote to lynch... that means one vote of the 8 didn't count

If we're sure it's meat and Poe now I'll stick.This post, it's the type of post I make as a killer, the first part, the extra vote thing, well that could be anything.But it doesn't jive with grasp symp, as he listed sil in his could be roped handing killers denesmet guard post.Will need to read day 1 again

Yeah, it's the same feeling I've got from Silanah's posting since - well, since they first posted.

Skintick, on 12 August 2016 - 09:25 AM, said:

Wow, looks like I missed a lot. At least the mystery of the additional vote is solved.

Karosis, on 12 August 2016 - 07:11 AM, said:

I'm out to a beer festival all day today.Don't go expecting posting, if there is any it'll likely be drunk.

Have fun. :Rodeo:But I don't think that voting for Gait due to a mistake in writing by PS is a good idea. It has to be a mistake. Marking scum would make no sense.

Serc, on 12 August 2016 - 01:52 AM, said:

I missed some drama. Bad timing, because RL is getting in the way and I won't be able to contribute much before the freeze. Will be lurking and if there's a case will throw in a vote, but definitely won't have time to do a full re-read before weekend.Anyway, quick stream of consciousness before I go to sleep. First, where is the Grasp = symp coming from? I mean if Monok CFd scum that would make perfect sense, but since Monok turned out town, I don't see a strong symping case on Grasp. Sure, their PI on Monok and VPI on Lock are nonsense, but this can just as well be bad town play. Which BTW might be a good reason to vote them off, not sure about it tho.I feel like Monok might have been the symp with his bold attempt to lure out roled players and point them out to killers. It worked with Den.I also don't like Silanah's play so far. First the gentle nudge towards Monok's post on D1 and now I agree with Eloth: the post at the beginning of D2 triggered my spidey sense too. It's mostly gut, admittedly, but it feels fake.

Silanah, on 11 August 2016 - 05:17 PM, said:

Oh fuck.... fuckity fuckWhat the hell was Tattersail thinking?It took an extra vote to lynch... that means one vote of the 8 didn't count

Grasp = symp was just a try to explain the strange game by them. But I can't see a connection to another player. So they are either a very strange, suicidical symp, also possible or it is just bad town play as you wrote. Silanah... Okay, this post feels strange a bit. I will have a look later after work.

Eloth, on 12 August 2016 - 12:47 PM, said:

Karosis, on 11 August 2016 - 10:12 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 11 August 2016 - 10:00 PM, said:

It is Day 2. 35 hours and 59 minutes remaining11 Players still alive: Bendal Home, Eloth, Fener, gait, Grasp, Karosis, Lock, Serc, silanah, Skintick, Ultama6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.Players not voted: Bendal Home, Eloth, Fener, gait, Grasp, Karosis, Lock, Serc, silanah, Skintick, Ultama

Hmm, timer reset anyone?Also am I alone in recalling that game where MM was being used and it listed alts in the order they were input and Gnaw had put scum in first thereby a PS update listed them fist in the "alive" and "not-voted" then the rest alphabetically? Just saying because Gait and Silanah are not capitalised.For the moment that line of enquiry is going to lead me to Vote GaitAlso, low-poster

I think its this one, why bring up this MM possibility then, of the two options, pick the one with zero suspicion on? if you're following this trail Silanah is your logical vote. My head now says, aha, it seems like a easy train to start if its happened before, lynch Gait, he comes up inno, day wasted and Silanah walks away whistling like Keyser Soze. However even I'm aware that that is theoryland on acid.I still like the idea of hearing more from Silanah, but I would like Karosis to address this for me.vote Silanah

You know, it would be nice if you lot actually expressed what your problem is with me.

To break down this post everyone seems to hate:

Frustration, anger, analysis.

One non-voting alt was my best guess - and I was right

[Silanah]

Lock, on 12 August 2016 - 01:06 PM, said:

Eloth, on 12 August 2016 - 12:42 PM, said:

off my reread I have ... mixed feelings on Liosan

Could you elaborate this please?

What's the point? Bliss was Liosan and no longer part of the game, right?

[Grasp]

Serc, on 12 August 2016 - 01:11 PM, said:

Quick break at work, one thing to add.

Eloth:

Eloth, on 12 August 2016 - 11:12 AM, said:

The grasp - sumo case is the most logical and clear case we have, but symp hunting is a waste, it's he masters we want.
The grasp case (for those who don't get it) he clearly and deliberately lays out 3 names of people he thinks are roped. Bang, night one denesmet (on his list) gets nailed, guard dead. If grasp wasn't signalling his killer masters he's just a fucking idiot and should be insta lynched the next 3 games as punishment

It's not Grasp that dropped the names, it's Monok. Look:

Monok Ochem, on 10 August 2016 - 08:44 PM, said:

Denesmet, on 10 August 2016 - 02:31 PM, said:

Silanah, on 10 August 2016 - 02:13 PM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 10 August 2016 - 08:33 AM, said:

In the words of He-Man,

"I have the Power!"

Vote Lock

I have this feeling that this post is going to be the Day 1 shitshow no real case vote...

I suspect there's a joke there most people (including myself) didn't get.

Oops.

Like this is quite big isn't it.

So your 100% roled. Nice one. So we got Eloth, Silanah and Den. Anyone else?

Hence my theory that Monok was symp, not Grasp.

Oh wow, is it a glimmer of intelligence? How unexpected!

[Lock]

Eloth, on 12 August 2016 - 12:42 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 11 August 2016 - 03:51 PM, said:

The Shaper appreciates the feedback from the peanut gallery. No modkills at this point, but as a point: ABSOLUTELY NO REVEALS ALLOWED. NO PARAPHRASING OF ROLE EMAILS. NO INTERPRETIVE DANCE. NO PICTURES (unless they are naked and sent to the PS account).

just reading this again.
no modkills at that point. was this because the Monok lynch looked inevitable, or was it because Monok hadn't broke any rules, as he was a symp and as such he had not paraphrased his pm, but had just paraphrased the pm he had gotten in many previous games? this weighs now heavily on my mind.

It could be because it was before the "NO PARAPHRASING OF ROLE EMAILS." rule was introduced. The initial rule was "NO REVEALS OF ROLES ARE ALLOWED."

I imagine there have been numerous discussions on this but is RI considered a role? I wouldn't call it that simply because it's called roleless. That'd be one way to slip around. Next, Tatts didn't openly reveal anything, hinted yes. Next, baiting others to indeliberetaley reveal is not against the rules afaik.

[Lock]

Silanah, on 12 August 2016 - 01:32 PM, said:

Lock, on 12 August 2016 - 01:06 PM, said:

Eloth, on 12 August 2016 - 12:42 PM, said:

off my reread I have ... mixed feelings on Liosan

Could you elaborate this please?

I'm a buzzkill