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Posted 27 May 2005 - 06:14 PM
Adaephon...pipe down
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Posted 28 May 2005 - 02:02 AM
The link does not work.
EDIT: But if you click around the site looking for maps you can find it anyway.
I've seen it once, it's pretty cool.
EDIT: But if you click around the site looking for maps you can find it anyway.
I've seen it once, it's pretty cool.
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Posted 01 June 2005 - 04:50 AM
Korelri&Jacuruku are described as being "half a world away" from Seven Cities in the prologue to MOI. In MT Prologue (that happens on Lether) Scabandari refers to Morn as "a city on a distant continent".
And where's that Stratem from? I recall some vague mentioning, but nothing specific.. if Quon Tali and Seven Cities are separate continents (7C is referred to always as a "subcontinent" for some bizarre reason), then Korelri+Assail+Jacuruku+Quon Tali+Seven Cities+Genabackis makes it up for 6.
Damn, i had posted a massive topic on geography once, but cant find it now..
Damn, i had
And where's that Stratem from? I recall some vague mentioning, but nothing specific.. if Quon Tali and Seven Cities are separate continents (7C is referred to always as a "subcontinent" for some bizarre reason), then Korelri+Assail+Jacuruku+Quon Tali+Seven Cities+Genabackis makes it up for 6.
Damn, i had posted a massive topic on geography once, but cant find it now..
Damn, i had
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Posted 27 May 2005 - 04:05 AM
I think we should just petition Patch to get it for us, or else.
- Rich the Great, starting sound like Aby...bugger.
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Posted 01 June 2005 - 09:19 AM
Must read NoK, and the other Novellas...
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Posted 12 June 2005 - 03:23 AM
quote:Originally posted by Patch:
...i'm beginning to believe you all think i have this perverse streak of cruelty...
I wouldnt go and Box us all into one category there...
I wouldnt mind seeing the real map up myself, im just too lazy to try and get anything remotely close to accurate in the map thing thats going...exams would have something to do with it at the moment.
Just my own note. Wouldnt it be ideal to try and place some continents by climate ?
Like Genebackis.. I would think that would be quite north in the world.
I would think the Equater would go halfway through 7Cities and QuanTali/Falar continent.
Lether I always imagined quite north. ALthough the snow in the mountains could mean that its south because there mountains and all. What about those island places that were paying tribute to Lether ? there not mentioned so far I think..
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Posted 29 May 2005 - 06:28 PM
quote:Originally posted by Imperial Historian:
You might find some of the discussion we've had about the geography of the malazan world useful if you do this, i'll try and have a look for them later, but yeah the idea sounds good to me
That'd definitely be helpful. Thanks.
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Posted 24 July 2005 - 03:40 AM
That's right, six continents where mentioned. Probably Seven Cities, Quon Tali, Genebackis, Lether-continent, Korelri and Assail.
But mabey the Firs Empire explores where wrong and missed some continents? Like Stratem en Jacuruku. And Seven Cities is often mentioned as a subcontinent. We know that west of the Jhag Odhan are the Trell-lands, but what beyond? Mabey Seven Cities in together with Quon Tali one continent. Or Seven Cities is like India in the real world; a subcontinent of a much larger maincontinent. But what continent could that be? Stratem? Assail? Korelri? Jacuruku?
But mabey the Firs Empire explores where wrong and missed some continents? Like Stratem en Jacuruku. And Seven Cities is often mentioned as a subcontinent. We know that west of the Jhag Odhan are the Trell-lands, but what beyond? Mabey Seven Cities in together with Quon Tali one continent. Or Seven Cities is like India in the real world; a subcontinent of a much larger maincontinent. But what continent could that be? Stratem? Assail? Korelri? Jacuruku?
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Posted 29 May 2005 - 08:35 PM
Ah so its not lost as was previously stated by SE then...excellent
...So dear Patch, what would it take to get that on here
On second thought...no don't answer that question, i'm scared of the reply
...So dear Patch, what would it take to get that on hereOn second thought...no don't answer that question, i'm scared of the reply
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Posted 01 June 2005 - 03:08 AM
Here's my initial layout. Any suggestions?
The Stratem and Korel placements are complete guesses (mainly where they are because I would expect an Empire to expland outwards in all directions), but otherwise I'm reasonably confident about the placements of the other continents. Genabackis may need to be closer to Seven Cities.
Lether is on the other side of the globe from Seven Cities. I don't think there should be any land masses between Genabackis and Lether save for some hitherto unmentioned ancestral home of the Thelomen Toblakai.
As you may be able to tell, the only proper coastlines I've done so far are for Genabackis. It won't look this horrible for long.
The rough continental outlines are of course nothing but guesses, approximated based on neighbouring continents (amateur tectonics ahoy).
BTW, yes, this is to scale, assuming a world with Earth's circumference (about 8,300 leagues).
That's enough for now; off to bed.
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Posted 01 June 2005 - 06:54 AM
quote:Assail's location can also be inferred from MOI, as the direction of travel of the imass from assail to the gathering (can someone look that up for me)
Lanas Tog was travelling north to the Imass gathering from the continent of Assail... ergo Assail is to the south of Morn and Elingarth??
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Posted 02 June 2005 - 02:33 AM
Aha. OK then - so does anyone know where it is, Jorram?
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Posted 29 May 2005 - 03:43 PM
@tiste...
...dude i hate to ruin your day a second time (see 'canadian' thread) but malaclypse has seen the malazan world map (and all the other completed maps as well, i might add)...i have seen the map on more than one occasion, but don't remember the details...but there is one, i can confirm that...
...dude i hate to ruin your day a second time (see 'canadian' thread) but malaclypse has seen the malazan world map (and all the other completed maps as well, i might add)...i have seen the map on more than one occasion, but don't remember the details...but there is one, i can confirm that...
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Posted 07 June 2005 - 06:26 AM
Patch, what I expected from you was something like:
"It's mostly correct, but you have to add the last two continents." or something like that, sending us all into berserk mode.
"It's mostly correct, but you have to add the last two continents." or something like that, sending us all into berserk mode.
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Posted 05 June 2005 - 05:42 PM
Forgive me for being such a n00b...when and where was Stratem mentioned?
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Posted 01 June 2005 - 08:23 AM
It looks like Korel is attached to Seven Cities there...
And Assail is most likely south of Morn, but how far south remains to be seen...
And Assail is most likely south of Morn, but how far south remains to be seen...
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Posted 04 June 2005 - 06:19 AM
I attempted to draw an update on your map (with no pretence of any good look, i just wanted to place the continents), having tried to take all said considerations into account.
My reasoning:
* Seven cities and Genabackis should be at the same level in order for some things to make sense, however the fact that the northern known parts of 7C (Otataral island and the continent at that level) are still described as desert, I've placed 7C to the south of Genabackis whose northern parts are tundraic (Genabackis should go even further up, however i didn't want to stretch the map too much).
I'm trying to remember the bit about KCCM's flying fortresses in Osric's memory world (happened in Raraku). Where did they fly up to where?
* Quon Tali and Seven Cities are know relatively to each other. Since it cannot be that everything is south frmo that point (it should be a VERY south-dense world), i tried to put only part of Korelri (confirmed south of QT&7C) to the south and then the rest crawling up to the north, with Jacuruku even north-er. Stratem is "beyond Korelri's southern range", therefore south of Korelri.
*I've put the island of Theft closest to Lether, due to the mentionings of Jheck on both places. However i don't recall what is the position of Theft, relative to Graymane's landing point (mentioned in Blood Follows), which must be the most Quon_Tali_close part of Korelri (the most eastern on my map). So maybe I'm wrong.
*Lether and Assail i've put according to the relative to Genabackis position we already deduced.
*In this situation the quote that Jacuruku is "half a world away" from 7C quite works.
So.. thats it. I'll try to post the image, but if it turns too big, I'll only provide the link.
p.s. Okay, 7Cities is SO not equatorial now... oh well, i dunno
My reasoning:
* Seven cities and Genabackis should be at the same level in order for some things to make sense, however the fact that the northern known parts of 7C (Otataral island and the continent at that level) are still described as desert, I've placed 7C to the south of Genabackis whose northern parts are tundraic (Genabackis should go even further up, however i didn't want to stretch the map too much).
I'm trying to remember the bit about KCCM's flying fortresses in Osric's memory world (happened in Raraku). Where did they fly up to where?
* Quon Tali and Seven Cities are know relatively to each other. Since it cannot be that everything is south frmo that point (it should be a VERY south-dense world), i tried to put only part of Korelri (confirmed south of QT&7C) to the south and then the rest crawling up to the north, with Jacuruku even north-er. Stratem is "beyond Korelri's southern range", therefore south of Korelri.
*I've put the island of Theft closest to Lether, due to the mentionings of Jheck on both places. However i don't recall what is the position of Theft, relative to Graymane's landing point (mentioned in Blood Follows), which must be the most Quon_Tali_close part of Korelri (the most eastern on my map). So maybe I'm wrong.
*Lether and Assail i've put according to the relative to Genabackis position we already deduced.
*In this situation the quote that Jacuruku is "half a world away" from 7C quite works.
So.. thats it. I'll try to post the image, but if it turns too big, I'll only provide the link.
p.s. Okay, 7Cities is SO not equatorial now... oh well, i dunno
#80 Guest_Jonathan_*
Posted 03 June 2005 - 12:54 AM
quote:Originally posted by Imperial Historian:
Ok i've found the quote about Stratem, it's from the preface of chapter 9 in MOI:
"on the sub-continent of Stratem, beyond Korelri's south range, can be found a vast peninsula where even the gods do not tread. Reaching to each coast encompassing an area of thousands of square leagues stretches a vast plaza..."
There's also a mention about stratem in blood follows, though only in passing, nothing to really place it.
Also from blood follows, the isle of theft, which as far as I can gather is to the north of korel and seems to be where the malazans initially landed.
Also a note, malaz isle seems to be the closest point to korel as it's where all the malzan forces/command were initially based.
Great, cheers for that.
quote:I'd agree with most of your speculaions on the nature of seven cities, quon tali and co, but i wouldn't be so sure that there was a siginifcantly more landmass there... as if there was surely the malazans would have conquered there by now, or we would have heard about it at any rate.
I'd say seven cities is likely to be in the same boat as quon tali, but together they are grouped as a continent.
We're in the dark. All the more reason for someone to, uh, you know, cough-up-the-world-map ahem ahem...
