[Fanderay]

Emurlahn, on 08 July 2016 - 09:07 PM, said:

Fanderay, on 08 July 2016 - 08:55 PM, said:

I've looked back briefly and cannot see one but I though OE was confirmed as someone?

Nope. Keep digging.

Digging?

[Path-Shaper]

If there is a lynch over the weekend, I'll be around to resolve and the next day will be started frozen.

[Olar Ethil]

Emurlahn, on 08 July 2016 - 07:06 PM, said:

Telas, on 08 July 2016 - 07:02 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 08 July 2016 - 07:00 PM, said:

Telas, on 08 July 2016 - 06:37 PM, said:

Shadow was the very first person to bring up the "alternating kill/recruit" mechanic. Merrid and Kesso all latched on this hard. It's the other thing I found kinda odd about Shadow. It's a bit too specific for empty speculation

So I Guard them tonight. Nothing lost then if you're right.

So then who do we lynch? Or are you suggesting we go to night?

Never Night in a game with a recruiter.

Vote Fanderay

Why Fanderay? From their play thus far I get the sense they'd be a worse choice than Shadow, not better.

As far as I know, KF has not said anything about me finder-wise, unless I missed something (possible).

[Path-Shaper]

Timer was FROZEN at 5:00 PM PST
It is Day 6. 9 hours 00 minutes remain.

8 players still alive: (Denul,Fanderay, Emurlahn,Telas,Shadow,Togg,Kadagar Fant,Olar Ethil)

5 votes to lynch. 5 votes to go night.

3 votes Shadow (Fanderay,Togg, Kadagar Fant)
1 vote Fanderay (Emurlahn)
Players not voted: (Denul, Telas, Korlat,Shadow,Olar Ethil)

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 09 July 2016 - 01:22 AM

[Telas]

Olar Ethil, on 08 July 2016 - 11:22 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 08 July 2016 - 07:06 PM, said:

Telas, on 08 July 2016 - 07:02 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 08 July 2016 - 07:00 PM, said:

Telas, on 08 July 2016 - 06:37 PM, said:

Shadow was the very first person to bring up the "alternating kill/recruit" mechanic. Merrid and Kesso all latched on this hard. It's the other thing I found kinda odd about Shadow. It's a bit too specific for empty speculation

So I Guard them tonight. Nothing lost then if you're right.

So then who do we lynch? Or are you suggesting we go to night?

Never Night in a game with a recruiter.

Vote Fanderay

Why Fanderay? From their play thus far I get the sense they'd be a worse choice than Shadow, not better.

As far as I know, KF has not said anything about me finder-wise, unless I missed something (possible).

So who do you think we should lynch?

[Telas]

was @ a housewarming party tonite, and karaoke happened. one of my freinds put on a Biggie song ("hypnotize") but could not do the lyrisc well.

I took over, and despite it being mebbe my 3rd time hearing the song, did quite well just readign the word to the rtyhm.

I beleive I gots to give Vengy credit for htat.

[Denul]

Sorry I couldn't be around on friday. I was just way to busy. I can't say I feel the Shadow lynch one way or the other. I just get no feel at all on him.

[Fanderay]

I'm back after a great weekend. Reading up on Shadow this morning, he has posted most days, and has some good observations. He has shown the willingness to vote, as on day one he voted for Olar Ethil.

Shadow, on 28 June 2016 - 03:40 PM, said:

I can get with the Spoilers!

Vote Olar Ethil

Totally deserves it

This was when the biggest train was Ano. He didn't remove and didn't vote for Ano to get a lynch.

On day two he does comment on Demelain, but does not vote and beasically this is his only post.

Shadow, on 29 June 2016 - 02:32 PM, said:

Demelain, on 29 June 2016 - 02:29 PM, said:

Yeah, really messed it up. My initial idea for the fractions is very likely wrong and that's why my tactic was pure shit. Sorry team.

No problem with lynching me for that. I'm deserving it.

Just wait with it until some other people have some new ideas. Maybe there is something else we have missed.

This seems like a weirdly specific stance this early in the game.

So two days have passed and he has not ruffled any feathers.

Day 3 and his first post after another night without any kills

Shadow, on 30 June 2016 - 01:38 PM, said:

Merrid, on 30 June 2016 - 01:26 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 30 June 2016 - 12:59 PM, said:

It is Day 3. 36 hours remaining.

12 players still alive: (Demelain,Denul,Fanderay,Aparal Forge,Korlat,Merrid,Kessobahn,Emurlahn,Telas,Shadow,Togg,Kadagar Fant,Olar Ethil)

7 votes to lynch. 7 votes to go night.


Players not voted: (Denul,Fanderay,Aparal Forge,Korlat,Merrid,Kessobahn,Emurlahn,Telas,Shadow,Togg,Kadagar Fant,Olar Ethil)

Dem's identity was not surprising to me. His CF however, was unexpected. I was pretty sure we would see something that would indicate he wasn't a student at Sunnydale.

The second night in a row with no NK is really interesting. I have two theories regarding why we haven't had any NK's so far. The first probable thing that comes to my mind is that some sort of behind the scenes shit with a guard is going on, and in that case speculating about the no NK on thread is useless.

The second option I see is that we can't trust the CFs, and Anomandaris may have been the sole killer in the game. I admit though that I find this highly unlikely. Because both of those two conditions would scream "terrible game design".

Or NK/Recruit are alternative abilities.

Though I have been thinking about screwed up CFs as well.

This game is really confusing as I know nothing of Buffy. Guess I should get updated

Inside knowledge as to how the mechanics are working?

Now so far Merrid and Togg have been going head to head with votes, and Shadow is around because he says..

Shadow, on 01 July 2016 - 05:37 PM, said:

Hey Merrid if you think there is more than one recruiter are you saying there are multiple vampire factions? Or are you just being pedantic?

Yet he does not vote him. The day times out, but incidentally the next day he says this to Kessobahn...

Shadow, on 05 July 2016 - 12:23 PM, said:

Frankly that kind of postponement is rather stupid. If you thought Merrid should be lynched why didn't you vote? Maybe your vote could have brought in a fence sitter for the hammer

then comes on strong with an opinion...

Shadow, on 05 July 2016 - 05:57 PM, said:

A Bird in Hand is worth Two in the bush. We know Kesso held off voting on a confirmed Vampire. That reason seems good enough for me

but DOES NOT VOTE HIM!

Shadow, on 06 July 2016 - 03:32 AM, said:

Y'know what with the poor logic on holding off voting and apparently not knowing about BP Kesso seems to be making a case that he is new and we should be excusing his sloppy gameplay...

If this is true, this is the second time school has had someone messing up onthread, or its a ploy.

Still trying to decide on this

That is two vampires in two days that we lynched and that Shadow did not vote for.

He missed the Korlat lynch, actually most of day 5 aswel. So a recruiter lying low, not voting, not causing any waves seems very likely to me, also almost every single day he has posted just after resolution too as far as I can.

He believes his mechanics, which others are struggling with...

Shadow, on 07 July 2016 - 07:07 PM, said:

As stated upthread if the NK and Recruit are alternate abilities for the Vamps, they just got someone new. So the School lost two people tonight.

then his defense..

Shadow, on 08 July 2016 - 05:14 PM, said:

Ok so it seems to me that the main argument is that I am a low poster. Which I am. No counter argument for me. I have played a shitty game here.

But what is this "unknown" thing? The entire point of Mafia is take your best guess at who someone is rather than ascertaining everybody's identity. Is everybody really that confident that they know everybody?

I for one am still bothered by Emur. Hang on, I will make another post in minutes

He is still bothered by Emur after KF has outed him as Angel and is on our side. I don't like him.

I see unwillingness to go for Shadow from Olar and Denul who could be his recruits.

Olar..

Olar Ethil, on 08 July 2016 - 04:37 PM, said:

Togg, on 08 July 2016 - 11:23 AM, said:

Olar is here too, I'd forgotten about them, they're an unknown too. I'm willing to vote either of the low posting trio and I likes the case on Shadow

Vote Shadow

Okay, so I've read through, and the case on Shadow is that they're a low poster and an 'unknown.'

First, I have no clue either way about Shadow. To me, could be anything. Just as likely right now to be a vamp as a human as a batcatlizardfish. The problem I have is that no one seems to be voting Shadow with the argument that they could be a vamp. Togg says he 'liked the case' but there is no case that I've seen! Instead, the votes are coming in because Shadow is an 'unknown'. Can I just point out how stupid that is? To me at least, everyone is an unknown, and that's nothing to do with their quantity of posting. It's to do with the fact that this is a game with - apparently - at least two recruiters (one for each side, if we believe KF when he says Emur has come over to the light).

This seems lazy to me.

Denul..

Denul, on 11 July 2016 - 08:14 AM, said:

Sorry I couldn't be around on friday. I was just way to busy. I can't say I feel the Shadow lynch one way or the other. I just get no feel at all on him.

There you go. There seems to be resistance to Shadow. I'm not removing.

[Olar Ethil]

Telas, on 09 July 2016 - 02:08 AM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 08 July 2016 - 11:22 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 08 July 2016 - 07:06 PM, said:

Telas, on 08 July 2016 - 07:02 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 08 July 2016 - 07:00 PM, said:

Telas, on 08 July 2016 - 06:37 PM, said:

Shadow was the very first person to bring up the "alternating kill/recruit" mechanic. Merrid and Kesso all latched on this hard. It's the other thing I found kinda odd about Shadow. It's a bit too specific for empty speculation

So I Guard them tonight. Nothing lost then if you're right.

So then who do we lynch? Or are you suggesting we go to night?

Never Night in a game with a recruiter.

Vote Fanderay

Why Fanderay? From their play thus far I get the sense they'd be a worse choice than Shadow, not better.

As far as I know, KF has not said anything about me finder-wise, unless I missed something (possible).

So who do you think we should lynch?

I think I've made it pretty clear that at this point I suspect KF of having been recruited.


@ Fanderay:

That is a MUCH better stating of a suspicion of Shadow. My resistance was based on seemingly little actual content being put in any previous suspicions of Shadow. But their lack of votes on known vampires is a definite reason to consider voting for them. Much better a reason that them being an 'unknown.'

[Olar Ethil]

Having said that Fandy, obviously I disagree with you just taking KF at their word. Not saying it couldn't be true, but I find the lack of scrutiny worrying.

[Fanderay]

Olar Ethil, on 11 July 2016 - 09:46 AM, said:

Having said that Fandy, obviously I disagree with you just taking KF at their word. Not saying it couldn't be true, but I find the lack of scrutiny worrying.

Well the only way to test KF is to lynch someone he has cleared which is quite risky. I don't see a bad guy having the find ability, so his early finds must be legit.

A big problem though would be Emur being the recruiter, recruiting KF and making a play to get Korlat lynched and painting suspicion elsewhere whilst KF clears him. However, KF's play hasn't indicated he's turned, and he must have some abilities blocking his recruitment because he revealed early in the game. Normally you'd save your reveal especially when there have been no night kills.

[Olar Ethil]

Fanderay, on 11 July 2016 - 10:00 AM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 11 July 2016 - 09:46 AM, said:

Having said that Fandy, obviously I disagree with you just taking KF at their word. Not saying it couldn't be true, but I find the lack of scrutiny worrying.

Well the only way to test KF is to lynch someone he has cleared which is quite risky. I don't see a bad guy having the find ability, so his early finds must be legit.

A big problem though would be Emur being the recruiter, recruiting KF and making a play to get Korlat lynched and painting suspicion elsewhere whilst KF clears him. However, KF's play hasn't indicated he's turned, and he must have some abilities blocking his recruitment because he revealed early in the game. Normally you'd save your reveal especially when there have been no night kills.

No I have no issue with KF's earlier play. Your reasoning is sound re KF must have had some blocking ability/abilities otherwise why reveal so early...up to a point. First, obviously maybe KF wasn't that sensible Second and more seriously, I cannot see a finder being designed who is also permanently immune to being killed/recruited. By this point, several days later, I would have expected something to have changed.

Of course, the third option is that vamps are incompetent.

[Telas]

Morning, everyone.

Looks like we're waiting on PS to restart the clock.

[Lady Bliss]

The timer is unfrozen

It is Day 6. 9 hours 00 minutes remain.

8 players still alive: (Denul,Fanderay, Emurlahn,Telas,Shadow,Togg,Kadagar Fant,Olar Ethil)

5 votes to lynch. 5 votes to go night.

3 votes Shadow (Fanderay,Togg, Kadagar Fant)
1 vote Fanderay (Emurlahn)

Players not voted: (Denul, Telas, Shadow,Olar Ethil)

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 11 July 2016 - 02:24 PM

[Telas]

Umm, Emu voted Fandy. And Korlat I dead.


Methinks Mafia Manager is being lazy again

[Telas]

Korlat IS dead... sigh, I hate auto-correct..m

[Olar Ethil]

I am actually happy to vote Shadow based on the fact that they have been on no vamp lynches. While I do suspect KF of being turned, they are at the same time probably the one player we can be sure is NOT a recruiter. I also realise that this is not an argument which is gaining any traction today, so I won't belabour it any longer.

[Telas]

I you vote, i'll hammer, and we can get on with with game.

[Telas]

Oh, FFS...

"IF you vote"

[Olar Ethil]

I'm happy to leave it a little longer for others to get back on after the weekend. I'm off to get a haircut, and will vote for Shadow when I return (barring some game-changing revelation, obvs).