[Fanderay]

Regardless I think Shadow is the best bet at the main recruiter because of his low profile and not being on a vamp train.

[Fanderay]

Looking at your train analysis why is it that you fail to notice Telas wasn't on a vamp lynch either?

Demelain acted like he wasn't in the school faction and is why he got lynched. Other than that both KF and Togg have been on the same trains as me in terms of innocents. Your analysis seems a little off to be honest Emur. Why is that?

[Shadow]

Fanderay, on 08 July 2016 - 05:49 PM, said:

Regardless I think Shadow is the best bet at the main recruiter because of his low profile and not being on a vamp train.

Neither did Telas.

If you are going to lynch me at least be honest and admit you are targeting a low poster for a nice easy victim

[Emurlahn]

Fanderay, on 08 July 2016 - 05:53 PM, said:

Looking at your train analysis why is it that you fail to notice Telas wasn't on a vamp lynch either?

Demelain acted like he wasn't in the school faction and is why he got lynched. Other than that both KF and Togg have been on the same trains as me in terms of innocents. Your analysis seems a little off to be honest Emur. Why is that?

I wasn't looking at Telas, I was looking at you.

Neither Togg nor KF started every School train they were on. Togg started one on a vamp. KF has been mid-late on most trains and they're either Willow or Giles with a freaking find.

[Telas]

Ok, false alarm. Just my phone being dumb and turning off data for some reason. Today's actually the day my cap was reset. I managed to survive on 10% data for almost a weeks!

Umm, back to discussion at hand.

Re: Fandy. I agree his "find me" statement is no smart at all. Do I think that makes him head vampire? Not really. It would be a suicidally brave move to ask for a find if you're the recruiter.
There's also a timezone factor to consider, as Fandy seems to be around earlier than half of us, which explains some of the early voting

Re: me not voting on vamps. I left the thread for the long weekend on the 30th, hours before KF dropped the "Merrid is Darla" bomb. When I left, the biggest train was on Togg, and it was kinda shit. Re: Kesso, I got beat on voting him by our low-lying players, while I kept prodding him hoping he'd let smth more interesting slip. (why'd you think I was harping on his "school has an unconfirmed guard" theory so hard?)

[Fanderay]

Ah well most suspect are those that are not voting vamps or trying to lynch. The recruiter wouldn't need to lynch now would he, he'd want the bigger pool of recruitee's.

[Emurlahn]

Shadow, on 08 July 2016 - 05:46 PM, said:

OK, so if you were Guarding Korlat on the first two nights that still does not explain the lack of NKs as Korlat did not CF as Vamp, right? So what if the Vamps recruited the first two nights, then went for the Kill? And coincidentally we have two NK less nights right after that.

Maybe its less a case of choosing to recruit or Kill, vs being forced to wait two nights due to mechanics?

Agreed that is certainly possible. Which means possibly another 2 nights without a kill.

[Fanderay]

Telas, on 08 July 2016 - 06:21 PM, said:

Ok, false alarm. Just my phone being dumb and turning off data for some reason. Today's actually the day my cap was reset. I managed to survive on 10% data for almost a weeks!

Umm, back to discussion at hand.

Re: Fandy. I agree his "find me" statement is no smart at all. Do I think that makes him head vampire? Not really. It would be a suicidally brave move to ask for a find if you're the recruiter.
There's also a timezone factor to consider, as Fandy seems to be around earlier than half of us, which explains some of the early voting

Re: me not voting on vamps. I left the thread for the long weekend on the 30th, hours before KF dropped the "Merrid is Darla" bomb. When I left, the biggest train was on Togg, and it was kinda shit. Re: Kesso, I got beat on voting him by our low-lying players, while I kept prodding him hoping he'd let smth more interesting slip. (why'd you think I was harping on his "school has an unconfirmed guard" theory so hard?)

Which is why I'm voting Shadow today. You're suspect for not being on those trains but lower down than Shadow in my opinion.

[Emurlahn]

Emurlahn, on 08 July 2016 - 06:23 PM, said:

Shadow, on 08 July 2016 - 05:46 PM, said:

OK, so if you were Guarding Korlat on the first two nights that still does not explain the lack of NKs as Korlat did not CF as Vamp, right? So what if the Vamps recruited the first two nights, then went for the Kill? And coincidentally we have two NK less nights right after that.

Maybe its less a case of choosing to recruit or Kill, vs being forced to wait two nights due to mechanics?

Agreed that is certainly possible. Which means possibly another 2 nights without a kill.

1 night. Yeah numbers and Mafia really not my thing.


Edit: Nor spelling. Numbers

This post has been edited by Emurlahn: 08 July 2016 - 06:25 PM

[Fanderay]

Emurlahn, on 08 July 2016 - 06:23 PM, said:

Shadow, on 08 July 2016 - 05:46 PM, said:

OK, so if you were Guarding Korlat on the first two nights that still does not explain the lack of NKs as Korlat did not CF as Vamp, right? So what if the Vamps recruited the first two nights, then went for the Kill? And coincidentally we have two NK less nights right after that.

Maybe its less a case of choosing to recruit or Kill, vs being forced to wait two nights due to mechanics?

Agreed that is certainly possible. Which means possibly another 2 nights without a kill.

There was no kill last night?

[Emurlahn]

Fanderay, on 08 July 2016 - 06:24 PM, said:

Telas, on 08 July 2016 - 06:21 PM, said:

Ok, false alarm. Just my phone being dumb and turning off data for some reason. Today's actually the day my cap was reset. I managed to survive on 10% data for almost a weeks!

Umm, back to discussion at hand.

Re: Fandy. I agree his "find me" statement is no smart at all. Do I think that makes him head vampire? Not really. It would be a suicidally brave move to ask for a find if you're the recruiter.
There's also a timezone factor to consider, as Fandy seems to be around earlier than half of us, which explains some of the early voting

Re: me not voting on vamps. I left the thread for the long weekend on the 30th, hours before KF dropped the "Merrid is Darla" bomb. When I left, the biggest train was on Togg, and it was kinda shit. Re: Kesso, I got beat on voting him by our low-lying players, while I kept prodding him hoping he'd let smth more interesting slip. (why'd you think I was harping on his "school has an unconfirmed guard" theory so hard?)

Which is why I'm voting Shadow today. You're suspect for not being on those trains but lower down than Shadow in my opinion.

But the Shadow case boils down to essentially "he's not interacted enough for School to stand up for him" so I see it as a bad lynch. Vamps could well drive on someone people won't think too much on simply to reduce School numbers.

[Fanderay]

Cross post. People talking about mechanics like they're set in stone. Maybe you guarded correct last night Emur so maybe stick on them until something changes unless you're taking your guard as a find like you did with Korlat.

[Emurlahn]

Fanderay, on 08 July 2016 - 06:27 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 08 July 2016 - 06:23 PM, said:

Shadow, on 08 July 2016 - 05:46 PM, said:

OK, so if you were Guarding Korlat on the first two nights that still does not explain the lack of NKs as Korlat did not CF as Vamp, right? So what if the Vamps recruited the first two nights, then went for the Kill? And coincidentally we have two NK less nights right after that.

Maybe its less a case of choosing to recruit or Kill, vs being forced to wait two nights due to mechanics?

Agreed that is certainly possible. Which means possibly another 2 nights without a kill.

There was no kill last night?

See above

[Telas]

I also feel you should all know that the reason I couldn't play over the lon weekend is b/c my phone was near-constantly tethered to a Bluetooth stereo, blaring a "90s dance and classic rock hits" playlist. This thread helped somewhat,

[Shadow]

Fanderay, on 08 July 2016 - 06:27 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 08 July 2016 - 06:23 PM, said:

Shadow, on 08 July 2016 - 05:46 PM, said:

OK, so if you were Guarding Korlat on the first two nights that still does not explain the lack of NKs as Korlat did not CF as Vamp, right? So what if the Vamps recruited the first two nights, then went for the Kill? And coincidentally we have two NK less nights right after that.

Maybe its less a case of choosing to recruit or Kill, vs being forced to wait two nights due to mechanics?

Agreed that is certainly possible. Which means possibly another 2 nights without a kill.

There was no kill last night?

Here you are driving lynch trains and you don't even know if there have been NKs or not? Did you just decide "Welp, time to drive another lynch I guess!"?

[Emurlahn]

Fanderay, on 08 July 2016 - 06:29 PM, said:

Cross post. People talking about mechanics like they're set in stone. Maybe you guarded correct last night Emur so maybe stick on them until something changes unless you're taking your guard as a find like you did with Korlat.

Well the mechanics are set in stone. It's just generally on the bottom of a stone we're facing away from. Which is why we extrapolate from data on thread. 2 Nights with no NK, one Night with NK. Looking like 2 more nights without so far...

I therefore suspect that Vamp cycle goes along the lines of (Recruit / Recruit / Kill) - maybe one phase recruit in which case 2 new vamps, maybe takes 2 to recruit in which case we hit it very lucky with Kessobahn.

[Fanderay]

I don't see why you're down playing the Shadow case. He's been active every day albeit low poster. He hasn't been on a vamp lynch train. He's most active today since we want to lynch him. He's your classic coaster. People have over looked him because of this game style. What makes you think he's innocent?

[Emurlahn]

Fanderay, on 08 July 2016 - 06:33 PM, said:

I don't see why you're down playing the Shadow case. He's been active every day albeit low poster. He hasn't been on a vamp lynch train. He's most active today since we want to lynch him. He's your classic coaster. People have over looked him because of this game style. What makes you think he's innocent?

Because I don't see anything to make me sure he's guilty.

[Fanderay]

Shadow, on 08 July 2016 - 06:32 PM, said:

Fanderay, on 08 July 2016 - 06:27 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 08 July 2016 - 06:23 PM, said:

Shadow, on 08 July 2016 - 05:46 PM, said:

OK, so if you were Guarding Korlat on the first two nights that still does not explain the lack of NKs as Korlat did not CF as Vamp, right? So what if the Vamps recruited the first two nights, then went for the Kill? And coincidentally we have two NK less nights right after that.

Maybe its less a case of choosing to recruit or Kill, vs being forced to wait two nights due to mechanics?

Agreed that is certainly possible. Which means possibly another 2 nights without a kill.

There was no kill last night?

Here you are driving lynch trains and you don't even know if there have been NKs or not? Did you just decide "Welp, time to drive another lynch I guess!"?

No I was correcting Emur but he caught it in his next post.

[Telas]

Shadow was the very first person to bring up the "alternating kill/recruit" mechanic. Merrid and Kesso all latched on this hard. It's the other thing I found kinda odd about Shadow. It's a bit too specific for empty speculation