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LOST.... no, 24! ...wait, FIREFLY... i mean BUFFY vs ANGEL, wait, uh.... Moved from GoT thread

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 10:50 PM

For Terez's peace of mind, I'll spoilerise these answers to the earlier LOST questions, and if someone wants to start a LOST thread in the TV section or follow my LOST Rewatch Project, they're more than welcome to do so :thumbsup:

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 11:23 PM

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View PostGorefest, on 04 May 2016 - 08:29 PM, said:

I think what you are saying here is exactly what Nevyn already means in his comment to my original post, i.e. you don't need every detail spelling out for the overall concept to work. I just felt as an aside that Lost wasn't the best example to hang such a trope on, which then spiralled the discussion out of kilter a bit. So I don't think there is a point of contention here between you, you are both in agreement to bitchslap my opinion. Which I am appreciative of, although I still somewhat disagree. I think.



This

Minus the part where you still disagreed, anyway.


Apologies, I didn't realize the original point aligned with what I was saying.
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Posted 05 May 2016 - 01:13 AM

Lost was a an awesome show.

LOST ended six year's ago and you all still discussing it.

Imagine if all show's captured your sense of wonder like this did
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Posted 05 May 2016 - 01:55 AM

You go to all the hard work to hijack a thread and then some goody two shoes mod has to go and muck it all up.

You're robbing the conversation of it's context! We were speaking of Lost as it relates to GoT darn it! Totally counts!



If we were going to split a new thread of to discuss a long dead network tv show, it would be 24, to discuss my theory that the moral of the show is "women are nothing but trouble"
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Posted 05 May 2016 - 02:06 AM

I wish the GoT dragons were the same CGI as the LOST shark.
They came with white hands and left with red hands.
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Posted 05 May 2016 - 02:57 AM

View PostQuickTidal, on 04 May 2016 - 08:13 PM, said:


Explaining the island mechanics (read: magic) is beside the point. The show was never about the island, the island was merely a character (this was in JJ's original pitch with Lindelof) in the show. An interesting and mysterious character to be sure. But what it exactly is and how it exactly works affects none of the character outcomes in any way other than "catalyst".


Thing is that when the show was slowing down in rating, they started piling mysteries on mysteries, changing plot lines and such, to keep the interest going. Fair enough, but answer some of this mysteries! Lots of people I know just followed along in the end just to get some answers, though they stopped caring about the characters long ago.

It reminded a bit of Fringe, though they did it far, far less. Sometimes it seemed thay they changed their minds about some plot lines and just forgot about them or went some other (not so organic) way
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Posted 05 May 2016 - 04:02 AM

View PostNicodimas, on 05 May 2016 - 01:13 AM, said:

Lost was a an awesome show.

LOST ended six year's ago and you all still discussing it.

Imagine if all show's captured your sense of wonder like this did


all the time, but the networks keep screwing it up.
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Posted 05 May 2016 - 12:53 PM

View PostNevyn, on 05 May 2016 - 01:55 AM, said:

You go to all the hard work to hijack a thread and then some goody two shoes mod has to go and muck it all up.

You're robbing the conversation of it's context! We were speaking of Lost as it relates to GoT darn it! Totally counts!


I was amused by the vehemence with which it was complained about...ahem "Seriously." I think I hurt my eyes they rolled so hard.

But hey, everyone has gotta be doing something I guess.

Again Nevyn, my apologies for not perusing the thread enough to see why you'd brought LOST up to begin with. Shows what I get for not being thorough.

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 01:09 PM

http://okbjgm.weebly.com/lost

This is a very good essay from one of the Lost writers.

It's canny long but worth the read.

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 01:13 PM

View PostAbyss, on 05 May 2016 - 04:02 AM, said:

View PostNicodimas, on 05 May 2016 - 01:13 AM, said:

Lost was a an awesome show.

LOST ended six year's ago and you all still discussing it.

Imagine if all show's captured your sense of wonder like this did


all the time, but the networks keep screwing it up.

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 02:56 PM

FIREFLY... maybe given time it could have become great. It always felt to me like Joss was trying too hard to lay groundwork for the bigger picture while making 'simple' self-contained character eps at the same time. Like he was perpetually standing in the background saying 'trust me, this will all be really really important next season, no, really, I have a plan, yes, even for the space hooker, trust me, stay with me here... watch this scene, this scene is HUGE... ok done, remember that for two years from now, and cut back to Jane being a douchebag ....'.




LOST never tried to be self contained, never pretended not to be what it was. Even when it was painfully flailing to dig itself out of random nonsense they had written in.
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Posted 05 May 2016 - 03:21 PM

I liked FIREFLY, but I never got why it was SO huge. It's a solid show, and it really was only gaining momentum as it ended...but really, it wasn't the second coming so many people seem to indicate it was. If we can throw up Whedon comparisons...it seemed like it was ANGEL rather than BUFFY. If that makes sense.
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Posted 05 May 2016 - 03:23 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 05 May 2016 - 03:21 PM, said:

I liked FIREFLY, but I never got why it was SO huge. It's a solid show, and it really was only gaining momentum as it ended...but really, it wasn't the second coming so many people seem to indicate it was. If we can throw up Whedon comparisons...it seemed like it was ANGEL rather than BUFFY. If that makes sense.


Can we split the firefly discussion to another thread? This thread is meant to be about hijacking Lost discussion by talking about 24.
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Posted 05 May 2016 - 03:25 PM

View PostNevyn, on 05 May 2016 - 03:23 PM, said:

View PostQuickTidal, on 05 May 2016 - 03:21 PM, said:

I liked FIREFLY, but I never got why it was SO huge. It's a solid show, and it really was only gaining momentum as it ended...but really, it wasn't the second coming so many people seem to indicate it was. If we can throw up Whedon comparisons...it seemed like it was ANGEL rather than BUFFY. If that makes sense.


Can we split the firefly discussion to another thread? This thread is meant to be about hijacking Lost discussion by talking about 24.


Okay, I laughed aloud at my desk at work. Well played.
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Posted 05 May 2016 - 03:38 PM

View PostNevyn, on 05 May 2016 - 03:23 PM, said:

View PostQuickTidal, on 05 May 2016 - 03:21 PM, said:

I liked FIREFLY, but I never got why it was SO huge. It's a solid show, and it really was only gaining momentum as it ended...but really, it wasn't the second coming so many people seem to indicate it was. If we can throw up Whedon comparisons...it seemed like it was ANGEL rather than BUFFY. If that makes sense.


Can we split the firefly discussion to another thread? This thread is meant to be about hijacking Lost discussion by talking about 24.


For some reason I watched the first 2 seasons of 24 and never got around to watching anymore of it. Sacrilgious I know!

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 03:41 PM

View Postchamp, on 05 May 2016 - 03:38 PM, said:

View PostNevyn, on 05 May 2016 - 03:23 PM, said:

View PostQuickTidal, on 05 May 2016 - 03:21 PM, said:

I liked FIREFLY, but I never got why it was SO huge. It's a solid show, and it really was only gaining momentum as it ended...but really, it wasn't the second coming so many people seem to indicate it was. If we can throw up Whedon comparisons...it seemed like it was ANGEL rather than BUFFY. If that makes sense.


Can we split the firefly discussion to another thread? This thread is meant to be about hijacking Lost discussion by talking about 24.


For some reason I watched the first 2 seasons of 24 and never got around to watching anymore of it. Sacrilgious I know!


Well, at least you were around for "I'm gonna need a hacksaw"
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When Venge's turn comes, he will get a yes from Mess, Dolmen, Nevyn and Venge but a no from the 3 fascists and me. **** with my Government, and i'll **** with yours
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Posted 05 May 2016 - 03:47 PM

TV gold!

I really need to get back to 24.

But also reading this thread makes me want to rewatch Lost again.

I need more hours in the day!

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 05:41 PM

I still say Sayid could have taken Jack Bauer in a fight.
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Posted 05 May 2016 - 06:30 PM

View PostAbyss, on 05 May 2016 - 05:41 PM, said:

I still say Sayid could have taken Jack Bauer in a fight.


A fight might be close, but Jack could definitely torture information out of Sayid, while Sayid would have a personal crisis before he got Jack to break. Heck, he couldn't even break Sawyer!
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When Venge's turn comes, he will get a yes from Mess, Dolmen, Nevyn and Venge but a no from the 3 fascists and me. **** with my Government, and i'll **** with yours
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Posted 05 May 2016 - 08:43 PM

View PostBriar King, on 05 May 2016 - 08:22 PM, said:

Y'all can eat my ass seriously...


As opposed to "tongue in cheek"? :thumbsup:
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