[bubba]

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 08:21 AM, said:

Soo lets see, Day 1:

1. Standard nonsential conversation: Check
2. Joke voting: Check
3. Suspicion of player speculating on game roles: Check
4. Accusation of signalling and symping: Waiting on this one.
5. Lynch Bubba: Inevitable

God Damn It!!!!

[bubba]

I think starting a quick train early in the day is not in the benefit of the new members. Let's explain how Andorian just fucked up.

1. Targeting Bubba for a day one lynch.

2.

3.

4.


you guys can fill in the rest.

[Dhenrabi]

Hello people

[Messremb]

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 06:25 AM, said:

Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 06:22 AM, said:

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 06:19 AM, said:

Macros, on 26 April 2016 - 06:07 AM, said:

Gooooooooooooooooooooddddd morning Malazan!

Thankfully there's no alts so we can forgo the dragon secks

You wish

Time for Dragon-Bear-sex?

Hush now, we have kids on thread

Should we wait for Day 2?

[Andorion]

Tattersail_, on 26 April 2016 - 08:28 AM, said:

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 08:18 AM, said:

Macros, on 26 April 2016 - 07:34 AM, said:

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 06:27 AM, said:

On the other hand, if its time to get serious,

M&P with one non standard role?

So, 1-2 killers, 1 symp, 1 healer/guard, and one town vig?

Thoughts, people?

Game mechanics speculation already?
I've got my eye on you Andorion!

What happened to the other one?

Khellendros, on 26 April 2016 - 07:55 AM, said:

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 06:27 AM, said:

On the other hand, if its time to get serious,

M&P with one non standard role?

So, 1-2 killers, 1 symp, 1 healer/guard, and one town vig?

Thoughts, people?

I have two thoughts.

1) Those are all standard roles you've listed in my view.

2) You want us to speculate on town roles. That's interesting.

3) I'm hungry.


Guess I had three thoughts. Now to do something about the third.

Since non-standard was mentioned, I thought it better to list out the standards and get them out of the way first. Town vig may be a non standard. Too tame for you though?

Vote Andorion


Second time you're looking into town roles. BIG NO.

Itwas Nom, on 26 April 2016 - 08:48 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 26 April 2016 - 08:26 AM, said:

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 08:15 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 26 April 2016 - 07:22 AM, said:

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 06:27 AM, said:

On the other hand, if its time to get serious,

M&P with one non standard role?

So, 1-2 killers, 1 symp, 1 healer/guard, and one town vig?

Thoughts, people?

Usually town versus scum ratio is 3:1 so there's most certainly 2 scum with a symp. I want Tapper's opinion on the non standard role.

With there being a few new guys we best get on the same page day one.

My thoughts exactly> New players, non alted game, so ets lay out the basic pattern and proceed from there

The problem that Khell and Macros have with you Andorion, is that you speculated on town roles which is a big no!

Town has barely any profit from those speculation, let scum figure on their own

for now



vote Andorion

Y'know, its never stated anywhere that the non standard role is town or scum. It could just as easily be a scum with unusual abilities. Premature conclusions harm Town's choices as well

[Dhenrabi]

Disclaimer: I don't know your genders. I'm calling everyone a male until I know otherwise since that's usually the closest to truth anyway.

Posts I found interesting so far.

Coltaine93, on 26 April 2016 - 05:33 AM, said:

Vote Kellendros, Vote Nom or Vote Trump. I think I need more informations to decide

thinking

thinking

thinking

Vote Trump

A shame he is not partitioning. The only election he would get my vote.

As a first note, this post was edited and I really do not see why. Might be something as inconspicuous as a spelling error, but in my experience people who edit their posts are often scum trying to make something seem less scummy.
The Trump vote is an obvious joke, but in Coltaine's case it looks more like blending in with the group as a new player than as a continuation of the joke, especially since he considered two other people who might have fought back but he resorted to the joke vote.

Tattersail_, on 26 April 2016 - 07:20 AM, said:

Good Morning!!
This is something I can get behind

It figures. Let the list be dwindled.

I feel like a mannequin...

Good Morning

17 players Tapper, can we get your take on possible mechanics? You think he may have thrown a recruiter into the mix?
Ah, decisions are important in mafia. When presented with those three options, Khell is the obvious choice

Howdy Siergiej

Tattersail_, on 26 April 2016 - 08:15 AM, said:

Aaand both Macros and Khell make good points about Andorion, although not talking about the "non standard role", is like ignoring the elephant in the room. With 17 players, i'd think it would lean toward favouring scum.

I don't know anything about Tattersail's meta, but the first one is a very long post without making a single game-related point.
Also very interesting to note is how Tattersail first joined into Andorion's mechanics talk, then later claims that Macros and Khell make good points about him, while still (on his own) continuing the mechanics talk.
I think between Andorion and Tattersail, Tattersail came off more suspicious in this exchange.

[Vote lynch Tattersail]

[Itwæs Nom]

Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 09:23 AM, said:

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 06:25 AM, said:

Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 06:22 AM, said:

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 06:19 AM, said:

Macros, on 26 April 2016 - 06:07 AM, said:

Gooooooooooooooooooooddddd morning Malazan!

Thankfully there's no alts so we can forgo the dragon secks

You wish

Time for Dragon-Bear-sex?

Hush now, we have kids on thread

Should we wait for Day 2?

haha

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 09:24 AM, said:

Y'know, its never stated anywhere that the non standard role is town or scum. It could just as easily be a scum with unusual abilities. Premature conclusions harm Town's choices as well

Personally I made no premature conclusion about an affiliation of the non standard role

[Messremb]

Khellendros, on 26 April 2016 - 07:52 AM, said:

Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 02:19 AM, said:

Woo game thread.

Vote Khellendros

Because Macros and Venge have a point...

Remind me what that point is. Place joke votes on me at beginning of game for good luck?

Many might consider lynching you to be good luck

Note for JPK, Siergiej and Dhenrabi, genuine truth - if Khell is alive on Day 3 then he is scum

Another note: in un-alted mafia some old grudges occasionally get settled

Also, Day 1 votes can be extremely random. Example:

Remove Vote

Just Plain Kitsu, on 26 April 2016 - 04:35 AM, said:

You know, if the voting system was actually for lynching - with the last candidate standing getting the position - I'll bet we'd have much larger voter turnout here. Besides that's the only way I can imagine voting Trump.

You'd consider voting Trump for anything? Clearly scummy

Vote JPK

Lynches have run off of far less than that.

So

Remove Vote

Are we going to be serious today or whimsical?

Khellendros, on 26 April 2016 - 07:55 AM, said:

2) You want us to speculate on town roles. That's interesting.

Why do you think it is a Town role? It could be scum, it could be independent.

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 08:21 AM, said:

Soo lets see, Day 1:

1. Standard nonsential conversation: Check
2. Joke voting: Check
3. Suspicion of player speculating on game roles: Check
4. Accusation of signalling and symping: Waiting on this one.
5. Lynch Bubba: Inevitable

OMGUS?

[Dhenrabi]

Itwas Nom, on 26 April 2016 - 09:29 AM, said:

Personally I made no premature conclusion about an affiliation of the non standard role

Why do you feel the need to secure people of your personal conclusion on this matter?

[Messremb]

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 09:24 AM, said:

Y'know, its never stated anywhere that the non standard role is town or scum. It could just as easily be a scum with unusual abilities. Premature conclusions harm Town's choices as well

You type faster than I multiquote but yeah keep all options open

[Messremb]

Dhenrabi, on 26 April 2016 - 09:25 AM, said:

Disclaimer: I don't know your genders. I'm calling everyone a male until I know otherwise since that's usually the closest to truth anyway.

Posts I found interesting so far.

Coltaine93, on 26 April 2016 - 05:33 AM, said:

Vote Kellendros, Vote Nom or Vote Trump. I think I need more informations to decide

thinking

thinking

thinking

Vote Trump

A shame he is not partitioning. The only election he would get my vote.

As a first note, this post was edited and I really do not see why. Might be something as inconspicuous as a spelling error, but in my experience people who edit their posts are often scum trying to make something seem less scummy.
The Trump vote is an obvious joke, but in Coltaine's case it looks more like blending in with the group as a new player than as a continuation of the joke, especially since he considered two other people who might have fought back but he resorted to the joke vote.

Yeah a note for new players: unless forbidden you can edit your posts to correct spelling but not the content of them post. You should note this edit at the bottom of the edited post. I will demonstrate

Edit: speeeelling to spelling

This post has been edited by Messremb: 26 April 2016 - 09:37 AM

[Dhenrabi]

Oh short introduction since I've not found a better place to do it.

I'm new here, have been playing mafia for a long time on another forum though.

It seemed like great fun to me to join a new community where I'm not yet aware of everyone's meta and such.
I'm watching the mafia 'champions' game, since my other forum also sent a representative, and saw that there was a champion from Malazan Empire (that's you, bear man).
I'm a big fan of Malazan, and not a big fan of the ridiculously 'srs bsns' tone that the bigger mafia boards have, so this seemed perfect.

I'm going to enjoy playing with you all and hope you do the same

[Andorion]

Itwas Nom, on 26 April 2016 - 08:48 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 26 April 2016 - 08:26 AM, said:

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 08:15 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 26 April 2016 - 07:22 AM, said:

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 06:27 AM, said:

On the other hand, if its time to get serious,

M&P with one non standard role?

So, 1-2 killers, 1 symp, 1 healer/guard, and one town vig?

Thoughts, people?

Usually town versus scum ratio is 3:1 so there's most certainly 2 scum with a symp. I want Tapper's opinion on the non standard role.

With there being a few new guys we best get on the same page day one.

My thoughts exactly> New players, non alted game, so ets lay out the basic pattern and proceed from there

The problem that Khell and Macros have with you Andorion, is that you speculated on town roles which is a big no!

Town has barely any profit from those speculation, let scum figure on their own

for now



vote Andorion

Itwas Nom, on 26 April 2016 - 09:29 AM, said:

Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 09:23 AM, said:

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 06:25 AM, said:

Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 06:22 AM, said:

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 06:19 AM, said:

Macros, on 26 April 2016 - 06:07 AM, said:

Gooooooooooooooooooooddddd morning Malazan!

Thankfully there's no alts so we can forgo the dragon secks

You wish

Time for Dragon-Bear-sex?

Hush now, we have kids on thread

Should we wait for Day 2?

haha

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 09:24 AM, said:

Y'know, its never stated anywhere that the non standard role is town or scum. It could just as easily be a scum with unusual abilities. Premature conclusions harm Town's choices as well

Personally I made no premature conclusion about an affiliation of the non standard role

So you considered the role could be scum, and you still don't want to think about it? Why exactly?

[Dhenrabi]

Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 09:37 AM, said:

Yeah a note for new players: unless forbidden you can edit your posts to correct spelling but not the content of them post. You should note this edit at the bottom of the edited post. I will demonstrate

Edit: speeeelling to spelling

Interesting. Do we just trust people on this or is there a way to check what the edit was?

Nevertheless since coltaine probably didn't know this on beforehand my point still stands.

[Messremb]

Dhenrabi, on 26 April 2016 - 09:38 AM, said:

Oh short introduction since I've not found a better place to do it.

I'm new here, have been playing mafia for a long time on another forum though.

It seemed like great fun to me to join a new community where I'm not yet aware of everyone's meta and such.
I'm watching the mafia 'champions' game, since my other forum also sent a representative, and saw that there was a champion from Malazan Empire (that's you, bear man).
I'm a big fan of Malazan, and not a big fan of the ridiculously 'srs bsns' tone that the bigger mafia boards have, so this seemed perfect.

I'm going to enjoy playing with you all and hope you do the same

Sssssh! Don't tell them that, I intercepted the request post and set up an entire fake alt hegemony to fool Thingyman into thinking I was genuinely chosen by the masses...

[Andorion]

Dhenrabi, on 26 April 2016 - 09:25 AM, said:

Disclaimer: I don't know your genders. I'm calling everyone a male until I know otherwise since that's usually the closest to truth anyway.

Posts I found interesting so far.

Coltaine93, on 26 April 2016 - 05:33 AM, said:

Vote Kellendros, Vote Nom or Vote Trump. I think I need more informations to decide

thinking

thinking

thinking

Vote Trump

A shame he is not partitioning. The only election he would get my vote.

As a first note, this post was edited and I really do not see why. Might be something as inconspicuous as a spelling error, but in my experience people who edit their posts are often scum trying to make something seem less scummy.
The Trump vote is an obvious joke, but in Coltaine's case it looks more like blending in with the group as a new player than as a continuation of the joke, especially since he considered two other people who might have fought back but he resorted to the joke vote.

Tattersail_, on 26 April 2016 - 07:20 AM, said:

Good Morning!!
This is something I can get behind

It figures. Let the list be dwindled.

I feel like a mannequin...

Good Morning

17 players Tapper, can we get your take on possible mechanics? You think he may have thrown a recruiter into the mix?
Ah, decisions are important in mafia. When presented with those three options, Khell is the obvious choice

Howdy Siergiej

Tattersail_, on 26 April 2016 - 08:15 AM, said:

Aaand both Macros and Khell make good points about Andorion, although not talking about the "non standard role", is like ignoring the elephant in the room. With 17 players, i'd think it would lean toward favouring scum.

I don't know anything about Tattersail's meta, but the first one is a very long post without making a single game-related point.
Also very interesting to note is how Tattersail first joined into Andorion's mechanics talk, then later claims that Macros and Khell make good points about him, while still (on his own) continuing the mechanics talk.
I think between Andorion and Tattersail, Tattersail came off more suspicious in this exchange.

[Vote lynch Tattersail]

Well, given Tatt's high posting tendencies, him being scum in a non-alted M&P ought to be interesting.....

[Andorion]

Dhenrabi, on 26 April 2016 - 09:42 AM, said:

Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 09:37 AM, said:

Yeah a note for new players: unless forbidden you can edit your posts to correct spelling but not the content of them post. You should note this edit at the bottom of the edited post. I will demonstrate

Edit: speeeelling to spelling

Interesting. Do we just trust people on this or is there a way to check what the edit was?

Nevertheless since coltaine probably didn't know this on beforehand my point still stands.

In the Mafia subforum there are a few stickied thread which sketch out the rules pretty comprehensively . I would advise new players to give them a read through.

[Dhenrabi]

Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 09:43 AM, said:

Sssssh! Don't tell them that, I intercepted the request post and set up an entire fake alt hegemony to fool Thingyman into thinking I was genuinely chosen by the masses...

So you wrote a third person bio to perpetuate the illusion. I'm impressed.

Or did you have an accomplice

[Messremb]

Dhenrabi, on 26 April 2016 - 09:42 AM, said:

Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 09:37 AM, said:

Yeah a note for new players: unless forbidden you can edit your posts to correct spelling but not the content of them post. You should note this edit at the bottom of the edited post. I will demonstrate

Edit: speeeelling to spelling

Interesting. Do we just trust people on this or is there a way to check what the edit was?

Nevertheless since coltaine probably didn't know this on beforehand my point still stands.

Can't speak for the mods viewing edits but I run two tabs concurrently and alternate between them so any post that suddenly shows as edited I can go and see what the original was.

Generally there are a few people viewing thread - bottom left of the page it'll say something like

"3 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 2 anonymous users"

That's one person not logged in, two most likely players (or players in general as we tend to log in anonymously for obvious reasons) and any one of those could note a change in the content and let PS know

The general rules are here, some mods post them at the start of game thread, some only post additional rules or suspended rules and some assume you know what's what

[Dhenrabi]

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 09:44 AM, said:

In the Mafia subforum there are a few stickied thread which sketch out the rules pretty comprehensively . I would advise new players to give them a read through.

I went over them but they largely seemed the same to what I was used to.

I'll do it again to see if I missed anything else.