Game thread 131.5 The List, the list
#221
Posted 26 April 2016 - 11:18 PM
after much nashing of teeth HO stands out most to me, Tatts ...well fuck him for the moment, we will see how He plays out. Having watched him change style on a whim I will wait and gage him over time.
vote HO
his play is much to deliberate.
vote HO
his play is much to deliberate.
#222
Posted 26 April 2016 - 11:21 PM
as far as the Adno train...it looks more like a vote of opportunity than anything else. First train to jump on.
#223
Posted 26 April 2016 - 11:31 PM
Itwas Nom, on 26 April 2016 - 08:03 PM, said:
I wasn't too careful with my vote because, as someone mentioned, we're at 17 players so one vote weighs less here than it does usually in m&p
Scummiest post so far.
So you aren't worried where you lay your vote down since you are just a member of the mob?
"If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us shall we not revenge?" - Shylock
#224
Posted 26 April 2016 - 11:35 PM
Coltaine93, on 26 April 2016 - 09:06 PM, said:
Okay, now I understood why it is better to lynch someone on day one. But still a difficult decision.
But hey, 16 hours left. I will go to sleep and decide tomorrow
But hey, 16 hours left. I will go to sleep and decide tomorrow
See Nom? Even a noob understands that we don't just drop votes without a solid reason.
No offense Coltaine93 and welcome

"If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us shall we not revenge?" - Shylock
#225
Posted 26 April 2016 - 11:37 PM
Siergiej, on 26 April 2016 - 09:48 PM, said:
- Andorion starts speculating about mechanics
- Tatts joins the speculation
- In the next post Macros throws accusation at Andorion because of that speculation
- Khell joins and points fingers at Andorion
- Tattersail votes Andorion
- Nom votes Andorion
- Dhenrabi votes Tatts
- Macros votes Tatts
- HiddenOne comes back to Macros' post that started the whole debate and votes Andorion
- JPK votes Andorion
- Gust votes Tatts
- Dhenrabi removes vote against Tatts
- Tatts removes vote against Andorion and votes Blend
- JPK removes vote against Andorion
Dare I say it non-newbies? Dare I?
There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail - should we fall - we will know that we have lived. ~ Anomander Rake
My sig comes from a game in which I didn't heed Blend's advice. So maybe this time I should. ~ Khellendros
I'm just going to have to come to terms with the fact that self-vote suiciding will forever be referred to as "pulling a JPK" now, aren't I? ~ JPK
My sig comes from a game in which I didn't heed Blend's advice. So maybe this time I should. ~ Khellendros
I'm just going to have to come to terms with the fact that self-vote suiciding will forever be referred to as "pulling a JPK" now, aren't I? ~ JPK
#226
Posted 26 April 2016 - 11:37 PM
Itwas Nom, on 26 April 2016 - 09:11 PM, said:
Coltaine93, on 26 April 2016 - 09:06 PM, said:
Okay, now I understood why it is better to lynch someone on day one. But still a difficult decision.
But hey, 16 hours left. I will go to sleep and decide tomorrow
But hey, 16 hours left. I will go to sleep and decide tomorrow
I'll just note that with remaining time going down your options are narrowing if you really wanna get a lynch, you might end up having only one option despite no-lynch
Yes, we only have 17 hours...
"If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us shall we not revenge?" - Shylock
#227
Posted 26 April 2016 - 11:39 PM
Siergiej, on 26 April 2016 - 09:48 PM, said:
Andorion v Tatts looks like the point of contention for Day 1 and admittedly the core of my own reasoning from the previous post, so I went back and looked and how it unfolded (this timeline is limited to the Androion-Tattersail situation):
- Andorion starts speculating about mechanics
- Tatts joins the speculation
- In the next post Macros throws accusation at Andorion because of that speculation
- Khell joins and points fingers at Andorion
- Tattersail votes Andorion
- Nom votes Andorion
- Dhenrabi votes Tatts
- Macros votes Tatts
- HiddenOne comes back to Macros' post that started the whole debate and votes Andorion
- JPK votes Andorion
- Gust votes Tatts
- Dhenrabi removes vote against Tatts
- Tatts removes vote against Andorion and votes Blend
- JPK removes vote against Andorion
So, my attention keeps jumping back into this timeline that Siergiej helpfully put together. The bit that's sticking out to me the strongest are numbers 3&8. Macros was the first one to point a finger at Ando and started that train rolling. A bit of time goes by, and then he jumps onto the newly started Tatts train. A great shot at sowing chaos and creating factions.
Vote Macros
#228
Posted 26 April 2016 - 11:43 PM
Just Plain Kitsu, on 26 April 2016 - 11:39 PM, said:
So, my attention keeps jumping back into this timeline that Siergiej helpfully put together. The bit that's sticking out to me the strongest are numbers 3&8. Macros was the first one to point a finger at Ando and started that train rolling. A bit of time goes by, and then he jumps onto the newly started Tatts train. A great shot at sowing chaos and creating factions.
Vote Macros
Vote Macros
Another great find by a newbie! Gotta love the infusion of fresh blood!
There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail - should we fall - we will know that we have lived. ~ Anomander Rake
My sig comes from a game in which I didn't heed Blend's advice. So maybe this time I should. ~ Khellendros
I'm just going to have to come to terms with the fact that self-vote suiciding will forever be referred to as "pulling a JPK" now, aren't I? ~ JPK
My sig comes from a game in which I didn't heed Blend's advice. So maybe this time I should. ~ Khellendros
I'm just going to have to come to terms with the fact that self-vote suiciding will forever be referred to as "pulling a JPK" now, aren't I? ~ JPK
#229
Posted 26 April 2016 - 11:44 PM
"see that stranger's arm crushing the life from him - do you understand? Not an eternal prison for Messremb"
#230
Posted 26 April 2016 - 11:46 PM
There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail - should we fall - we will know that we have lived. ~ Anomander Rake
My sig comes from a game in which I didn't heed Blend's advice. So maybe this time I should. ~ Khellendros
I'm just going to have to come to terms with the fact that self-vote suiciding will forever be referred to as "pulling a JPK" now, aren't I? ~ JPK
My sig comes from a game in which I didn't heed Blend's advice. So maybe this time I should. ~ Khellendros
I'm just going to have to come to terms with the fact that self-vote suiciding will forever be referred to as "pulling a JPK" now, aren't I? ~ JPK
#231
Posted 27 April 2016 - 12:00 AM
As in they're more useful for scum than townies, or as in if you post a list you look suspicious?
My (very) general idea is that townies benefit from clarity and scum benefits from confusion, so I was just trying to establish the facts on the Androion/Tatts situation.

#232
Posted 27 April 2016 - 12:22 AM
Siergiej, on 27 April 2016 - 12:00 AM, said:
As in they're more useful for scum than townies, or as in if you post a list you look suspicious?
My (very) general idea is that townies benefit from clarity and scum benefits from confusion, so I was just trying to establish the facts on the Androion/Tatts situation.

It's sort of an old full of shit adage here - scum love lists!

I personally love your very informative list. Already it has allowed for much discussion!
There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail - should we fall - we will know that we have lived. ~ Anomander Rake
My sig comes from a game in which I didn't heed Blend's advice. So maybe this time I should. ~ Khellendros
I'm just going to have to come to terms with the fact that self-vote suiciding will forever be referred to as "pulling a JPK" now, aren't I? ~ JPK
My sig comes from a game in which I didn't heed Blend's advice. So maybe this time I should. ~ Khellendros
I'm just going to have to come to terms with the fact that self-vote suiciding will forever be referred to as "pulling a JPK" now, aren't I? ~ JPK
#233
Posted 27 April 2016 - 12:28 AM
Blend, on 27 April 2016 - 12:22 AM, said:
Siergiej, on 27 April 2016 - 12:00 AM, said:
As in they're more useful for scum than townies, or as in if you post a list you look suspicious?
My (very) general idea is that townies benefit from clarity and scum benefits from confusion, so I was just trying to establish the facts on the Androion/Tatts situation.

It's sort of an old full of shit adage here - scum love lists!

I personally love your very informative list. Already it has allowed for much discussion!
Much conferment ....spell check....but I think it makes sense...yes I have had a few at this point.
#234
Posted 27 April 2016 - 12:30 AM
#236
#237
Posted 27 April 2016 - 01:03 AM
Alright, I've looked back at our two most wanted today. Andorian and Tatts. My opinion is that between the two Tatts is more transparent and straight with Andorian seeming the scummier one. See following:
We start off with Andorians speculations that people dislike.
Accusations fly and Tatts is dragged in as also participating on the speculation, but I like the defense saying that they did not speculate on town roes as Andorian did. Which is true.
Then we have
Something you want to tell us before we all lynch you as the FM?
Although in all practicality an un-alted game is one where you can guarantee there will not be an FM. You'd have to tell PS your account password, have PS change it and tell the FM then at the next jump/death of FM get your own account returned to you
Here Mess points out, maybe jokingly, that Andoirian maybe know something we all dont. Or my belief is that the purpose is to make it seem like his first post was not for the purpose of looking into town roles but others.
Something you want to tell us before we all lynch you as the FM?
Although in all practicality an un-alted game is one where you can guarantee there will not be an FM. You'd have to tell PS your account password, have PS change it and tell the FM then at the next jump/death of FM get your own account returned to you
Keep on forgetting the un alted aspect
Then when he gets called out about the FM fact he claims he forgot this is altless game. Which I dont know if I believe.
Tatts here is saying that Andorian is backtracking and I am under that opinion as well.
For now,
Vote Andorian
We start off with Andorians speculations that people dislike.
Accusations fly and Tatts is dragged in as also participating on the speculation, but I like the defense saying that they did not speculate on town roes as Andorian did. Which is true.
Then we have
Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 10:32 AM, said:
Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 10:27 AM, said:
I'll lay money on an FM 

Something you want to tell us before we all lynch you as the FM?
Although in all practicality an un-alted game is one where you can guarantee there will not be an FM. You'd have to tell PS your account password, have PS change it and tell the FM then at the next jump/death of FM get your own account returned to you
Here Mess points out, maybe jokingly, that Andoirian maybe know something we all dont. Or my belief is that the purpose is to make it seem like his first post was not for the purpose of looking into town roles but others.
Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 10:33 AM, said:
Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 10:32 AM, said:
Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 10:27 AM, said:
I'll lay money on an FM 

Something you want to tell us before we all lynch you as the FM?
Although in all practicality an un-alted game is one where you can guarantee there will not be an FM. You'd have to tell PS your account password, have PS change it and tell the FM then at the next jump/death of FM get your own account returned to you
Keep on forgetting the un alted aspect
Then when he gets called out about the FM fact he claims he forgot this is altless game. Which I dont know if I believe.
Tattersail_, on 26 April 2016 - 03:05 PM, said:
Read your back tracking? Whatever for?
Tatts here is saying that Andorian is backtracking and I am under that opinion as well.
For now,
Vote Andorian
No Touchy.
#238
Posted 27 April 2016 - 02:08 AM
Itwas Nom, on 26 April 2016 - 07:38 PM, said:
Dhenrabi, on 26 April 2016 - 09:34 AM, said:
I felt the need to tell Ando his point was off, atleast in my case
Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 09:41 AM, said:
So you considered the role could be scum, and you still don't want to think about it? Why exactly?
You mentioned town roles and the wa you called for speculations on the nonstandard roles for oprn to both options
Once again, the Town roles I mentioned are standard or normal for a M&P. There is no 'speculation' involved. Its the non-standard that got me thinking, and frankly that can just as easily be a scum role. Are you being deliberately obtuse?
Itwas Nom, on 26 April 2016 - 08:03 PM, said:
I wasn't too careful with my vote because, as someone mentioned, we're at 17 players so one vote weighs less here than it does usually in m&p
Uh huh... lets just pile on to this train, eh? Waaaay too overeager for my liking
Vote Itwas Nom
#239
Posted 27 April 2016 - 02:51 AM
It is day 1. 11 hours 9 minutes remain.
17 players alive: ADL, Andorion, Blend, Bliss, Bubba, Coltain93, Dhenrabi, Gusty, HO, Itwas Nom, Khell, Kitsu, Macros, Mess, Sergiej, Tapper, Tatts
9 votes to lynch, 9 votes to night.
Votes:
3 votes Andorion: Nom, HO, ADL,
2 votes Tatts: Macros, Gusty
1 vote Blend: Tatts,
1 vote Khell: Blend,
1 vote Gusty: Sergiej,
2 votes Nom: Khell, Andorion,
1 vote HO: Bubba,
1 vote Macros: Kitsu,
Players not voted: Coltain93, Tapper, Mess, Dhenrabi, Bliss,
17 players alive: ADL, Andorion, Blend, Bliss, Bubba, Coltain93, Dhenrabi, Gusty, HO, Itwas Nom, Khell, Kitsu, Macros, Mess, Sergiej, Tapper, Tatts
9 votes to lynch, 9 votes to night.
Votes:
3 votes Andorion: Nom, HO, ADL,
2 votes Tatts: Macros, Gusty
1 vote Blend: Tatts,
1 vote Khell: Blend,
1 vote Gusty: Sergiej,
2 votes Nom: Khell, Andorion,
1 vote HO: Bubba,
1 vote Macros: Kitsu,
Players not voted: Coltain93, Tapper, Mess, Dhenrabi, Bliss,
This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 27 April 2016 - 02:51 AM
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
#240
Posted 27 April 2016 - 03:15 AM
There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail - should we fall - we will know that we have lived. ~ Anomander Rake
My sig comes from a game in which I didn't heed Blend's advice. So maybe this time I should. ~ Khellendros
I'm just going to have to come to terms with the fact that self-vote suiciding will forever be referred to as "pulling a JPK" now, aren't I? ~ JPK
My sig comes from a game in which I didn't heed Blend's advice. So maybe this time I should. ~ Khellendros
I'm just going to have to come to terms with the fact that self-vote suiciding will forever be referred to as "pulling a JPK" now, aren't I? ~ JPK