[Coltaine -]

Blend, on 26 April 2016 - 02:53 PM, said:

Blend, on 26 April 2016 - 02:53 PM, said:

Ooh, just noticed I was naked. Glad I changed that fairly quickly!

Coltaine93 - we log in anonymously when we're playing a game of Mafia. That way people can't see if you're reading the thread and not posting, or if you're on at specific times and stuff.

When you're not anonymous, we call that being naked!

Okay, I'm wearing trousers now. I hope that is enough

And for the rest:
I'm getting more and more confused about Tattersail and Andorion. Every time I'm nearly convinced to vote for one of them a new post comes.
But a lot of people are also worried about Kellendros.

But what is with Nom? He followed Tattersail very quickly in accussing Andorion and is now absent for some time. On the other hand it would be stupied to work so obvious together if both are scum. I don't think that experienced players would do this.

[Blend]

Tattersail_, on 26 April 2016 - 03:23 PM, said:

Ah, found it.

Grief, on 22 April 2016 - 06:31 PM, said:

3. Why so few cult games? I'm not talking mind-bending mechanical monstrosities, which is where we do seem to find cults. I'm talking about other forms of low TMDI game, aside from the standard M&P. Cult games in particular have something of an advantage over killer games in terms of activity; players don't die off except through lynching, and there are essentially an increasing number of symps to give people clues. Mixing up the Low TMDI games could be helpful I think. As it stands, I feel like there can be a bit of a dichotomy here between very standard M&P and very complicated high TMDI games.

Grief mentions it, then Tapper and Shin mention it too. Not too far off the mark that Gnaw may have included one in this game, as it has been a while since we seen one and 17 players is quite a high number for just 3 scum.

Why are you protecting Messremb but completely ignoring my points about yourself?

[Tattersail_]

Coltaine93, on 26 April 2016 - 03:27 PM, said:

Blend, on 26 April 2016 - 02:53 PM, said:

Blend, on 26 April 2016 - 02:53 PM, said:

Ooh, just noticed I was naked. Glad I changed that fairly quickly!

Coltaine93 - we log in anonymously when we're playing a game of Mafia. That way people can't see if you're reading the thread and not posting, or if you're on at specific times and stuff.

When you're not anonymous, we call that being naked!

Okay, I'm wearing trousers now. I hope that is enough

And for the rest:
I'm getting more and more confused about Tattersail and Andorion. Every time I'm nearly convinced to vote for one of them a new post comes.
But a lot of people are also worried about Kellendros.

But what is with Nom? He followed Tattersail very quickly in accussing Andorion and is now absent for some time. On the other hand it would be stupied to work so obvious together if both are scum. I don't think that experienced players would do this.

I agree with this, i'm happy someone followed my vote on Andorion, but it was quick and he hasn't stuck around to answer the questions people may have. I don't see this as overtly scummy though.

[Tattersail_]

Blend, on 26 April 2016 - 03:28 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 26 April 2016 - 03:23 PM, said:

Ah, found it.

Grief, on 22 April 2016 - 06:31 PM, said:

3. Why so few cult games? I'm not talking mind-bending mechanical monstrosities, which is where we do seem to find cults. I'm talking about other forms of low TMDI game, aside from the standard M&P. Cult games in particular have something of an advantage over killer games in terms of activity; players don't die off except through lynching, and there are essentially an increasing number of symps to give people clues. Mixing up the Low TMDI games could be helpful I think. As it stands, I feel like there can be a bit of a dichotomy here between very standard M&P and very complicated high TMDI games.

Grief mentions it, then Tapper and Shin mention it too. Not too far off the mark that Gnaw may have included one in this game, as it has been a while since we seen one and 17 players is quite a high number for just 3 scum.

Why are you protecting Messremb but completely ignoring my points about yourself?

More like being transparent, I could have not drawn attention to the fact I mentioned it before him but that would only be self serving and scummy.

I'll address your other parts directly.

[Tattersail_]

So after my read up (when I post about mechanics/speculation), the only thing game related so far was..

this post by Andorion

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 06:27 AM, said:

On the other hand, if its time to get serious,

M&P with one non standard role?

So, 1-2 killers, 1 symp, 1 healer/guard, and one town vig?

Thoughts, people?

Green I agree with, red I don't but seem as it was the only game related post I thought I'd add my 2 cents which was addressed to Tapper first (who we all know is great at mechanics)

Quote

Tapper, on 26 April 2016 - 05:02 AM, said:

I can see the tweets already at John Oliver.
Lyin' Ted is symped by Kasich. Losers and dummies, both of them!

17 players Tapper, can we get your take on possible mechanics? You think he may have thrown a recruiter into the mix?

Then I replied to And's post

Tattersail_, on 26 April 2016 - 07:22 AM, said:

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 06:27 AM, said:

On the other hand, if its time to get serious,

M&P with one non standard role?

So, 1-2 killers, 1 symp, 1 healer/guard, and one town vig?

Thoughts, people?

Usually town versus scum ratio is 3:1 so there's most certainly 2 scum with a symp. I want Tapper's opinion on the non standard role.

With there being a few new guys we best get on the same page day one.

Look at the context, it is with the new guys in mind (this is totally before Denrahbi mentions he is familiar with the game)

Blend, on 26 April 2016 - 03:09 PM, said:

I really liked this post:

Macros, on 26 April 2016 - 10:04 AM, said:

My my look at the hornets nest that got poked.

Personally I dislike role speculation, especially this early as it only plays into the scums hands.
And (it was andorion I don't think, will check) someone then followed up with something along the lines of 'well we need to get things straight early on'.
No we don't, anything assumed now is just that, an assumption, and playing a game out based on day one speculation is asking for trouble. This kind of talk just screams attempts at thread direction to me, which I really dislike. Going back to page one here to see if I can find the offending post. Maybe it was andorion, but I think it was someone else.

Early doors yet, but currently would vote for andorion or the other post Im going to hunt down. Probably wrong, as its overtly blatant but it could be a dump or a ballsy scum. Unlikely.

Especially considering he then went and pulled out the post he was talking about:

Macros, on 26 April 2016 - 10:10 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 26 April 2016 - 07:22 AM, said:

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 06:27 AM, said:

On the other hand, if its time to get serious,

M&P with one non standard role?

So, 1-2 killers, 1 symp, 1 healer/guard, and one town vig?

Thoughts, people?

Usually town versus scum ratio is 3:1 so there's most certainly 2 scum with a symp. I want Tapper's opinion on the non standard role.

With there being a few new guys we best get on the same page day one.

There he is, mr 'oh so helpful to the newbies' Tattersail.
Congrats tatts, you just jumped to the head of the queue.

vote Tattersail

Whilst I don't like andoruons speculation, this little bit of subtle yet oh so helpful directioning floats my boat for a vote. And his happiness to lump suspicion on Andorion while doing exactly what he does just helps.

Also, will be mostly.playing from phone, expect typos galore, and alted seems to autocorrect to salted, and I get sick of fixing it so bear that in mind.

Macros out while he drives to next job

I've certainly seen worse Day 1 cases. Plus, we can't leave Tatts and Khell BOTH around. If they're on the same team, we'd best hope it's town otherwise we get rid of one of them fast!

Now in terms of Macros..

Macros, on 26 April 2016 - 10:04 AM, said:

My my look at the hornets nest that got poked.

Personally I dislike role speculation, especially this early as it only plays into the scums hands.
And (it was andorion I don't think, will check) someone then followed up with something along the lines of 'well we need to get things straight early on'.
No we don't, anything assumed now is just that, an assumption, and playing a game out based on day one speculation is asking for trouble. This kind of talk just screams attempts at thread direction to me, which I really dislike. Going back to page one here to see if I can find the offending post. Maybe it was andorion, but I think it was someone else.

Early doors yet, but currently would vote for andorion or the other post Im going to hunt down. Probably wrong, as its overtly blatant but it could be a dump or a ballsy scum. Unlikely.

He personally dislikes role speculation. Personal to him. He says it plays into scums hands (I agree if we're talking about the town roles like Ando did) Yet he didn't like me doing it for the newbies, nothing to do with my speculation if you look at his vote.

Macros, on 26 April 2016 - 10:10 AM, said:

There he is, mr 'oh so helpful to the newbies' Tattersail.
Congrats tatts, you just jumped to the head of the queue.

vote Tattersail

Whilst I don't like andoruons speculation, this little bit of subtle yet oh so helpful directioning floats my boat for a vote. And his happiness to lump suspicion on Andorion while doing exactly what he does just helps.

My response to his vote and reasons, as you seem to have missed it Blend..

Quote

I see your points regarding the assumptions. Like I said earlier, there is that elephant, the one over there, but we mustn't talk about it until we get more information. Like 2 deaths, or a cult CF like Mess mentioned. Which is fair enough.

I am not disagreeing with him, in fact I nipped it in the bud and looked at Ando's meta, his increased posting time and activity, which I got spot on (thank you very much)

[Gust Hubb]

To spell it out Tatts, you usually are flinging shit everywhere and change your votes at least 4 times. You sticking on one person is odd, almost conservative.

That being said, I am going to be trying to read up on the rest as the day proceeds. It will require more rereads to pick up on other bad behavior.

[Dhenrabi]

I'm not too comfortable with the speed of the Tattersail wagon. I won't be around for quite a while, because of Koningsnacht/dag (Tapper will understand) so I'm going to change my vote for now.

[Vote lynch Coltaine93]


I have just skimmed most of the thread up to this point. I might be back before phase end to read up properly, but I'm not sure.

[Tattersail_]

Gust Hubb, on 26 April 2016 - 03:48 PM, said:

To spell it out Tatts, you usually are flinging shit everywhere and change your votes at least 4 times. You sticking on one person is odd, almost conservative.

That being said, I am going to be trying to read up on the rest as the day proceeds. It will require more rereads to pick up on other bad behavior.

Usually as when you last played? Which was a little while ago. I don't think you can use that as an argument Gusty. I must be getting rusty because I don't see many places I can fling shit.

Earlier on I may have thrown a vote at Blend as he was a no show but he is here.

[Tattersail_]

Dhenrabi, on 26 April 2016 - 03:49 PM, said:

I'm not too comfortable with the speed of the Tattersail wagon. I won't be around for quite a while, because of Koningsnacht/dag (Tapper will understand) so I'm going to change my vote for now.

[Vote lynch Coltaine93]


I have just skimmed most of the thread up to this point. I might be back before phase end to read up properly, but I'm not sure.

To swap your vote you need to remove it and then place it. Just what we do here.

To remove, put remove vote in a new line and bold it. Then in a new line vote the player you wish and bold it.

remove vote

vote bla bla

Like that, that way the mods can spot votes easily and update the count accordingly. (we don't have a bot like other sites, its all manually done)

[Tattersail_]

I'm out until tomorrow morning. May check the thread on my phone a bit later, but I'm giving the baby a bath tonight, and she is in a never ending crying stage.

[Andorion]

Coltaine93, on 26 April 2016 - 03:27 PM, said:

Blend, on 26 April 2016 - 02:53 PM, said:

Blend, on 26 April 2016 - 02:53 PM, said:

Ooh, just noticed I was naked. Glad I changed that fairly quickly!

Coltaine93 - we log in anonymously when we're playing a game of Mafia. That way people can't see if you're reading the thread and not posting, or if you're on at specific times and stuff.

When you're not anonymous, we call that being naked!

Okay, I'm wearing trousers now. I hope that is enough

And for the rest:
I'm getting more and more confused about Tattersail and Andorion. Every time I'm nearly convinced to vote for one of them a new post comes.
But a lot of people are also worried about Kellendros.

But what is with Nom? He followed Tattersail very quickly in accussing Andorion and is now absent for some time. On the other hand it would be stupied to work so obvious together if both are scum. I don't think that experienced players would do this.

Excellent point. Nom just totally vanished. I answered him and absolutely no response from that end

Dhenrabi, on 26 April 2016 - 03:49 PM, said:

I'm not too comfortable with the speed of the Tattersail wagon. I won't be around for quite a while, because of Koningsnacht/dag (Tapper will understand) so I'm going to change my vote for now.

[Vote lynch Coltaine93]


I have just skimmed most of the thread up to this point. I might be back before phase end to read up properly, but I'm not sure.

Huh?

Tattersail_, on 26 April 2016 - 03:50 PM, said:

Gust Hubb, on 26 April 2016 - 03:48 PM, said:

To spell it out Tatts, you usually are flinging shit everywhere and change your votes at least 4 times. You sticking on one person is odd, almost conservative.

That being said, I am going to be trying to read up on the rest as the day proceeds. It will require more rereads to pick up on other bad behavior.

Usually as when you last played? Which was a little while ago. I don't think you can use that as an argument Gusty. I must be getting rusty because I don't see many places I can fling shit.

Earlier on I may have thrown a vote at Blend as he was a no show but he is here.

That was poetry!

[Dhenrabi]

remove vote


I just noticed days are 36 hours so I should be able to make it back before the end.

[Blend]

Tattersail_, on 26 April 2016 - 03:47 PM, said:

So after my read up (when I post about mechanics/speculation), the only thing game related so far was..

this post by Andorion

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 06:27 AM, said:

On the other hand, if its time to get serious,

M&P with one non standard role?

So, 1-2 killers, 1 symp, 1 healer/guard, and one town vig?

Thoughts, people?

Green I agree with, red I don't but seem as it was the only game related post I thought I'd add my 2 cents which was addressed to Tapper first (who we all know is great at mechanics)

Quote

Tapper, on 26 April 2016 - 05:02 AM, said:

I can see the tweets already at John Oliver.
Lyin' Ted is symped by Kasich. Losers and dummies, both of them!

17 players Tapper, can we get your take on possible mechanics? You think he may have thrown a recruiter into the mix?

Then I replied to And's post

Tattersail_, on 26 April 2016 - 07:22 AM, said:

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 06:27 AM, said:

On the other hand, if its time to get serious,

M&P with one non standard role?

So, 1-2 killers, 1 symp, 1 healer/guard, and one town vig?

Thoughts, people?

Usually town versus scum ratio is 3:1 so there's most certainly 2 scum with a symp. I want Tapper's opinion on the non standard role.

With there being a few new guys we best get on the same page day one.

Look at the context, it is with the new guys in mind (this is totally before Denrahbi mentions he is familiar with the game)

Blend, on 26 April 2016 - 03:09 PM, said:

I really liked this post:

Macros, on 26 April 2016 - 10:04 AM, said:

My my look at the hornets nest that got poked.

Personally I dislike role speculation, especially this early as it only plays into the scums hands.
And (it was andorion I don't think, will check) someone then followed up with something along the lines of 'well we need to get things straight early on'.
No we don't, anything assumed now is just that, an assumption, and playing a game out based on day one speculation is asking for trouble. This kind of talk just screams attempts at thread direction to me, which I really dislike. Going back to page one here to see if I can find the offending post. Maybe it was andorion, but I think it was someone else.

Early doors yet, but currently would vote for andorion or the other post Im going to hunt down. Probably wrong, as its overtly blatant but it could be a dump or a ballsy scum. Unlikely.

Especially considering he then went and pulled out the post he was talking about:

Macros, on 26 April 2016 - 10:10 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 26 April 2016 - 07:22 AM, said:

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 06:27 AM, said:

On the other hand, if its time to get serious,

M&P with one non standard role?

So, 1-2 killers, 1 symp, 1 healer/guard, and one town vig?

Thoughts, people?

Usually town versus scum ratio is 3:1 so there's most certainly 2 scum with a symp. I want Tapper's opinion on the non standard role.

With there being a few new guys we best get on the same page day one.

There he is, mr 'oh so helpful to the newbies' Tattersail.
Congrats tatts, you just jumped to the head of the queue.

vote Tattersail

Whilst I don't like andoruons speculation, this little bit of subtle yet oh so helpful directioning floats my boat for a vote. And his happiness to lump suspicion on Andorion while doing exactly what he does just helps.

Also, will be mostly.playing from phone, expect typos galore, and alted seems to autocorrect to salted, and I get sick of fixing it so bear that in mind.

Macros out while he drives to next job

I've certainly seen worse Day 1 cases. Plus, we can't leave Tatts and Khell BOTH around. If they're on the same team, we'd best hope it's town otherwise we get rid of one of them fast!

Now in terms of Macros..

Macros, on 26 April 2016 - 10:04 AM, said:

My my look at the hornets nest that got poked.

Personally I dislike role speculation, especially this early as it only plays into the scums hands.
And (it was andorion I don't think, will check) someone then followed up with something along the lines of 'well we need to get things straight early on'.
No we don't, anything assumed now is just that, an assumption, and playing a game out based on day one speculation is asking for trouble. This kind of talk just screams attempts at thread direction to me, which I really dislike. Going back to page one here to see if I can find the offending post. Maybe it was andorion, but I think it was someone else.

Early doors yet, but currently would vote for andorion or the other post Im going to hunt down. Probably wrong, as its overtly blatant but it could be a dump or a ballsy scum. Unlikely.

He personally dislikes role speculation. Personal to him. He says it plays into scums hands (I agree if we're talking about the town roles like Ando did) Yet he didn't like me doing it for the newbies, nothing to do with my speculation if you look at his vote.

Macros, on 26 April 2016 - 10:10 AM, said:

There he is, mr 'oh so helpful to the newbies' Tattersail.
Congrats tatts, you just jumped to the head of the queue.

vote Tattersail

Whilst I don't like andoruons speculation, this little bit of subtle yet oh so helpful directioning floats my boat for a vote. And his happiness to lump suspicion on Andorion while doing exactly what he does just helps.

My response to his vote and reasons, as you seem to have missed it Blend..

Quote

I see your points regarding the assumptions. Like I said earlier, there is that elephant, the one over there, but we mustn't talk about it until we get more information. Like 2 deaths, or a cult CF like Mess mentioned. Which is fair enough.

I am not disagreeing with him, in fact I nipped it in the bud and looked at Ando's meta, his increased posting time and activity, which I got spot on (thank you very much)

I've certainly got my eye on Andorion, but nothing you've said above dissuades me of voting for you. You basically rehashed the same posts I originally pulled out, and tried to make Macros seem suspicious for being suspicious of you... A suspicion which I agreed with. So are you saying that if I agree with Macros, I must also be suspicious (I know, I know, but let's be serious here)?

[Coltaine -]

Dhenrabi, on 26 April 2016 - 03:49 PM, said:

I'm not too comfortable with the speed of the Tattersail wagon. I won't be around for quite a while, because of Koningsnacht/dag (Tapper will understand) so I'm going to change my vote for now.

[Vote lynch Coltaine93]


I have just skimmed most of the thread up to this point. I might be back before phase end to read up properly, but I'm not sure.

Looks like adding thinking thinking thinking to your post can kill you

[Lady Bliss]

Back and reading up...

[Tattersail_]

Blend, on 26 April 2016 - 04:05 PM, said:

I've certainly got my eye on Andorion, but nothing you've said above dissuades me of voting for you. You basically rehashed the same posts I originally pulled out, and tried to make Macros seem suspicious for being suspicious of you... A suspicion which I agreed with. So are you saying that if I agree with Macros, I must also be suspicious (I know, I know, but let's be serious here)?

Obviously I rehashed the same posts that you pulled out as I was responding to them, you just said I ignored your posts, and now you're saying I shouldn't respond to them? Contradicting yourself here aren't you?

Trying to put words in my mouth, i've not accused Macros of anything, and agree with his point hence the nipping it in the bud and moving in a different direction.

This is quite bad town play.

remove vote


vote Blend


You shouldn't be lying to try and get a train going, you should at least be aware of my responses and motivations, if you are not willing to do so then maybe that's because you're scum. I'm not 100% sure about anyone, I see Ando as a good vote but your recent play has gathered my vote.

[Lady Bliss]

Tattersail_, on 26 April 2016 - 03:25 PM, said:

Gust Hubb, on 26 April 2016 - 03:15 PM, said:

I initially was leaning Andorian. We have had good luck in the past going after the first person to bring up mechanics. If Tatts wasn't acting so weird I would lean more that way.

In what way am I acting weird?
(if it is my play style that you are unfamiliar with, I have been playing this way for the past few games).

IMO you usually look scummy and I want to lynch you Tatts. I haven't decided yet whether your play style is worth a day one lynch for this game.

[Gust Hubb]

Thoughts per page as I have time :

Page 1- why do Macros and Khell ignore the fact Tatts asked Tapper about mechanics pretty much right after Andorian's post?

I agree, Nom's post is way too quick, and the second vote on day 1 tends to be srs bsnss

[Tapper]

Dhenrabi, on 26 April 2016 - 03:49 PM, said:

I'm not too comfortable with the speed of the Tattersail wagon. I won't be around for quite a while, because of Koningsnacht/dag (Tapper will understand) so I'm going to change my vote for now.

[Vote lynch Coltaine93]


I have just skimmed most of the thread up to this point. I might be back before phase end to read up properly, but I'm not sure.

We have a bank holiday tomorrow, indeed.
Enjoy the booze and loud people - not to mention the predicted cold

[Tapper]

Tattersail_, on 26 April 2016 - 04:12 PM, said:

Blend, on 26 April 2016 - 04:05 PM, said:

I've certainly got my eye on Andorion, but nothing you've said above dissuades me of voting for you. You basically rehashed the same posts I originally pulled out, and tried to make Macros seem suspicious for being suspicious of you... A suspicion which I agreed with. So are you saying that if I agree with Macros, I must also be suspicious (I know, I know, but let's be serious here)?

Obviously I rehashed the same posts that you pulled out as I was responding to them, you just said I ignored your posts, and now you're saying I shouldn't respond to them? Contradicting yourself here aren't you?

Trying to put words in my mouth, i've not accused Macros of anything, and agree with his point hence the nipping it in the bud and moving in a different direction.

This is quite bad town play.

remove vote


vote Blend


You shouldn't be lying to try and get a train going, you should at least be aware of my responses and motivations, if you are not willing to do so then maybe that's because you're scum. I'm not 100% sure about anyone, I see Ando as a good vote but your recent play has gathered my vote.

I should add this to the 101 as a perfect example of OMGUS. You need to understand my feelings and motivations - if you don't, you're scum!
Do you understand Blends motivations?