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Posted 26 April 2016 - 04:32 PM

I'd really love to understand how this:

View PostTattersail_, on 26 April 2016 - 03:47 PM, said:

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I see your points regarding the assumptions. Like I said earlier, there is that elephant, the one over there, but we mustn't talk about it until we get more information. Like 2 deaths, or a cult CF like Mess mentioned. Which is fair enough.


I am not disagreeing with him, in fact I nipped it in the bud and looked at Ando's meta, his increased posting time and activity, which I got spot on (thank you very much)


is 'nipping it in the bud.' You say "I see your points regarding the assumptions" and then pretty much ignore them in order to bring up more possibilities of bad things "i.e. 2 deaths, or a cult"

I think you're only trying to shift people's suspicions back at Andorion. And it bothers me that you're trying so hard.
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Posted 26 April 2016 - 04:33 PM

View PostTapper, on 26 April 2016 - 04:30 PM, said:

I should add this to the 101 as a perfect example of OMGUS. You need to understand my feelings and motivations - if you don't, you're scum!
Do you understand Blends motivations?


At last, someone sensible!
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Posted 26 April 2016 - 04:34 PM

View PostGust Hubb, on 26 April 2016 - 04:29 PM, said:

Thoughts per page as I have time :

Page 1- why do Macros and Khell ignore the fact Tatts asked Tapper about mechanics pretty much right after Andorian's post?

I agree, Nom's post is way too quick, and the second vote on day 1 tends to be srs bsnss

Yes, no, but. How many games has Nom under his/her/their belt?
Also, we are with a whole bunch. In a mini, I'd agree, but with the number of players we have now, it is hardly deadly.
If we want a game where people are free with their votes in order to (maybe) establish a pattern, taking a vote as an intent of murder will not do it much good. And that's coming from someone super careful with their votes. It used to be that votes changed a lot.

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Posted 26 April 2016 - 04:35 PM

Ok, after skimming through I'm left with the following perceptions:

1) my gut says Tatts is playing way too over the top to be a killer. I could see him more as a symp.
2) Role speculation does stink. I feel like it just helps scum with trying to look like they are participating early, and can be a vehicle for scum to spot roled townies.
3) Khell isn't posting enough.
4) Tapper is posting more than I remember. I'll have to do a post count on the last couple of games to confirm.

TBH I'm leaning towards Khell ;)
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Posted 26 April 2016 - 04:35 PM

View PostTapper, on 26 April 2016 - 04:29 PM, said:

View PostDhenrabi, on 26 April 2016 - 03:49 PM, said:

I'm not too comfortable with the speed of the Tattersail wagon. I won't be around for quite a while, because of Koningsnacht/dag (Tapper will understand) so I'm going to change my vote for now.

[Vote lynch Coltaine93]


I have just skimmed most of the thread up to this point. I might be back before phase end to read up properly, but I'm not sure.

We have a bank holiday tomorrow, indeed.
Enjoy the booze and loud people - not to mention the predicted cold ;)


A Bank Holiday in the middle of the week? How weird! Bout the only time we get that is when XMas, Boxing Day and/or New Years are in the middle of the week. All the rest of our holidays here in Canadia are on Fridays or Mondays!
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Posted 26 April 2016 - 04:36 PM

View PostBlend, on 26 April 2016 - 04:33 PM, said:

View PostTapper, on 26 April 2016 - 04:30 PM, said:

I should add this to the 101 as a perfect example of OMGUS. You need to understand my feelings and motivations - if you don't, you're scum!
Do you understand Blends motivations?


At last, someone sensible!

I aim to please. Also, I somehow always see Tatts as scummy and he seems to always have a bullseye on his back as far as I am concerned, so I am glad I am not the only one this time.
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Posted 26 April 2016 - 04:37 PM

View PostLady Bliss, on 26 April 2016 - 04:35 PM, said:

Ok, after skimming through I'm left with the following perceptions:

1) my gut says Tatts is playing way too over the top to be a killer. I could see him more as a symp.
2) Role speculation does stink. I feel like it just helps scum with trying to look like they are participating early, and can be a vehicle for scum to spot roled townies.
3) Khell isn't posting enough.
4) Tapper is posting more than I remember. I'll have to do a post count on the last couple of games to confirm.

TBH I'm leaning towards Khell ;)
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remove vote

I need to take a deeper dive in looking at posts.


To be fair, Khell did say something about an unexpected thing keeping him away from the game much of today. I'm willing to give him a pass on that, Khell wouldn't lie about something like that. The pass isn't infinite of course, but a day or so should be more than enough.
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Posted 26 April 2016 - 04:41 PM

View PostLady Bliss, on 26 April 2016 - 04:35 PM, said:

Ok, after skimming through I'm left with the following perceptions:

1) my gut says Tatts is playing way too over the top to be a killer. I could see him more as a symp.
2) Role speculation does stink. I feel like it just helps scum with trying to look like they are participating early, and can be a vehicle for scum to spot roled townies.
3) Khell isn't posting enough.
4) Tapper is posting more than I remember. I'll have to do a post count on the last couple of games to confirm.

TBH I'm leaning towards Khell ;)
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remove vote

I need to take a deeper dive in looking at posts.

I do. Don't worry, I will be back to lurker mode tomorrow, probably on Thursday as well and Friday I could be active if the game draws me in - if it continues to sparkle as it does now, it's a virtual guarantee.

@ Blend: we celebrate the fact that our current King has a birthday - on the birthday of his mom, the former Queen. She used to do the same, on her mom's birthday. Celebration is a big word, though. It seems rather more centred on making sure he has his worst day of the year by sending him on a tour of the country to villages where quaint little games from a hundred years ago are played, make him taste local food served by people in folk dress that no-one outside of folk dance organisations has been wearing or eating for the past century, and make members of the royal family participate in odd sports like toilet bowl throwing.
The rest of the country uses it as an excuse to get drunk, mostly.
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Posted 26 April 2016 - 04:41 PM

View PostTapper, on 26 April 2016 - 04:36 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 26 April 2016 - 04:33 PM, said:

View PostTapper, on 26 April 2016 - 04:30 PM, said:

I should add this to the 101 as a perfect example of OMGUS. You need to understand my feelings and motivations - if you don't, you're scum!
Do you understand Blends motivations?


At last, someone sensible!

I aim to please. Also, I somehow always see Tatts as scummy and he seems to always have a bullseye on his back as far as I am concerned, so I am glad I am not the only one this time.


It's a very good point. I'm just pointing out what sticks out to me so far. I haven't dropped any votes, just noting that Tatts is making me suspicious, but you're right, that's generally Tatts' lot in Mafia life.
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Posted 26 April 2016 - 04:43 PM

And now, I am off to knead the pasta sheets for my lasagne.
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Posted 26 April 2016 - 04:44 PM

View PostTapper, on 26 April 2016 - 04:41 PM, said:

and make members of the royal family participate in odd sports like toilet bowl throwing.


I.... I have no words... I even went to look it up:

http://www.telegraph...ng-contest.html

How very... errr... European?

Here in Canada, we have lumberjacks that throw axes... ;)
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Posted 26 April 2016 - 04:46 PM

Macros, you're naked, use those giant hands to cover yourself! ;)
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Posted 26 April 2016 - 04:48 PM

Toilet bowl throwing, ah you crazy Dutch, what ever will you think of next?



Catching up after work. have been dipping in an out but reading wall of texts on the phone is a pain in the balls
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Posted 26 April 2016 - 04:48 PM

View PostBlend, on 26 April 2016 - 04:46 PM, said:

Macros, you're naked, use those giant hands to cover yourself! ;)



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Posted 26 April 2016 - 04:56 PM

It seems to be that usual melting pot of day one, the shit is circling around 2 players and I can see a reason for both lynching, and not lynching both players.

gah.

Tatts, seems to be honing in a little on Andorion now, as well as getting frustrated, I can easily view the frustration as genuine annoyance with fellow townies, or frustration that he's been caught out already over something minor.
Andorions actions can have the same flip coin as well, but Tatts almost dogged like pursuit of him is making me lean towards keeping my vote on Tatts for now. yes I am aware he has adressed the points I raised, and quite neatly as well, but its more gut feeling now than anything else. And we still have plenty of time.
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Posted 26 April 2016 - 05:04 PM

We need a time update and vote count.
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Posted 26 April 2016 - 05:05 PM

View PostGnaw, on 26 April 2016 - 02:09 AM, said:

ADL
Andorion
Blend
Bliss
Bubba
Coltain93
Dhenrabi
Gusty
HO
Itwas Nom
Khell
Kitsu
Macros
Mess
Sergiej
Tapper
Tatts


Alright, just so I'm not laser focusing on only Tatts, who all hasn't posted yet?

I don't remember seeing much from ADL, nor from Kitsu, but they both do have a few posts... If I'm not remembering much, chances are their input wasn't very spectacular.

Aside from that, seems everyone's had a few things to say, so that's good! Haven't had this active a Day 1 in a M&P in a while, really! Loving it so far!
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Posted 26 April 2016 - 05:12 PM

View PostLady Bliss, on 26 April 2016 - 05:04 PM, said:

We need a time update and vote count.


By my count we are here:

It is day 1. 20 hours 48 minutes remain

Players alive: ADL, Andorion, Blend, Bliss, Bubba, Coltain93, Dhenrabi, Gusty, HO, Itwas Nom, Khell, Kitsu, Macros, Mess, Sergiej, Tapper, Tatts


1 vote for Khellendros : ( Messremb )
3 votes for Andorion : ( Nom, HiddenOne, Kitsu )
2 votes Tattersail : ( Macros, Gust Hubb )
1 vote Blend: ( Tattersail )


With 17 players, we need 9 votes for a lynch.
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Posted 26 April 2016 - 05:15 PM

View PostBlend, on 26 April 2016 - 05:05 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 26 April 2016 - 02:09 AM, said:

ADL
Andorion
Blend
Bliss
Bubba
Coltain93
Dhenrabi
Gusty
HO
Itwas Nom
Khell
Kitsu
Macros
Mess
Sergiej
Tapper
Tatts


Alright, just so I'm not laser focusing on only Tatts, who all hasn't posted yet?

I don't remember seeing much from ADL, nor from Kitsu, but they both do have a few posts... If I'm not remembering much, chances are their input wasn't very spectacular.

Aside from that, seems everyone's had a few things to say, so that's good! Haven't had this active a Day 1 in a M&P in a while, really! Loving it so far!


I actually threw in a vote earlier this morning, but I've been in reading the wall of text. I'm currently of the conclusion that my earlier vote for Ando may have been a gut reaction. I want to read over the wall again, but I'll be in here pretty much all day today.

For now:

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Posted 26 April 2016 - 05:19 PM

View PostJust Plain Kitsu, on 26 April 2016 - 05:15 PM, said:

I actually threw in a vote earlier this morning, but I've been in reading the wall of text. I'm currently of the conclusion that my earlier vote for Ando may have been a gut reaction. I want to read over the wall again, but I'll be in here pretty much all day today.

For now:

Remove Vote


Yeah, I noticed when *I* did your vote count. Glad to see you participating! Welcome to Malazan Mafia!


EDIT: changed you to *I*

This post has been edited by Blend: 26 April 2016 - 05:20 PM

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