[Merrid]

Okay so day one Denesmet votes Grasp and Telas immediately follows. Later in the day Denesmet pleads for someone to hammer in time and Telas shows up as Ultama pointed out on day 2.

Then this on day 2 when Korlat is almost lynched.

Denesmet, on 01 December 2015 - 02:07 AM, said:

Goddamn it. Kay, so for the above quotes:

What I find most poignant is how Shadow is the first and then 4th person on AF's train. Interesting to remove his vote just to put it back on. Puts him as a middle of the lynch train rather than calling attention to the fact that he sat on AF without much reaction and without much (by which I mean basically no) case on AF. Just sitting there waiting for someone to pick up the steam. This way he steers clear of any meaningful conflict, though he does get touchy when asked what the fuck he is doing.

As I was about to say before my computer spazzed is that Day 1 interactions are highly revealing (I site Bubba's own obvious offness as evidence). Next I want to look at Telas again (wondering why Shadow has such a hard on for him). But since this day is not going to reverse itself in the less then 30 minutes left.

Vote Korlat.

Denesmet, on 01 December 2015 - 02:27 AM, said:

Again, not much to see on Telas. Looks like he picked a fight with Shadow (however feebly) and otherwise has been begging to busy while accusing others of not putting in much content. I could see him being suspicious for background scum. Just having trouble getting a read.


Kay, that is enough for tonight. Should have time in the morn 10 hours hence.

Denesmet, on 01 December 2015 - 09:05 PM, said:

Khells is a good player with keen insight. I really am having trouble locking onto Telas, but think that Khell's gut (as long as he wasn't symp) may be good enough reason to knock off Telas. I need to read more, of course, so expect me back around the same time as yesterday.

You know. I don't like Denesmet defending Telas. We are already linking them together. I think if one comes up scum then the other might.

Telas looks more suspicious in his play but Denesmet's lack of suspicion on Telas has me thinking he's more likely to turn out scum.

vote Denesmet

[Kadagar Fant]

Merrid, on 01 December 2015 - 09:18 PM, said:

Okay so day one Denesmet votes Grasp and Telas immediately follows. Later in the day Denesmet pleads for someone to hammer in time and Telas shows up as Ultama pointed out on day 2.

Then this on day 2 when Korlat is almost lynched.

Denesmet, on 01 December 2015 - 02:07 AM, said:

Goddamn it. Kay, so for the above quotes:

What I find most poignant is how Shadow is the first and then 4th person on AF's train. Interesting to remove his vote just to put it back on. Puts him as a middle of the lynch train rather than calling attention to the fact that he sat on AF without much reaction and without much (by which I mean basically no) case on AF. Just sitting there waiting for someone to pick up the steam. This way he steers clear of any meaningful conflict, though he does get touchy when asked what the fuck he is doing.

As I was about to say before my computer spazzed is that Day 1 interactions are highly revealing (I site Bubba's own obvious offness as evidence). Next I want to look at Telas again (wondering why Shadow has such a hard on for him). But since this day is not going to reverse itself in the less then 30 minutes left.

Vote Korlat.

Denesmet, on 01 December 2015 - 02:27 AM, said:

Again, not much to see on Telas. Looks like he picked a fight with Shadow (however feebly) and otherwise has been begging to busy while accusing others of not putting in much content. I could see him being suspicious for background scum. Just having trouble getting a read.


Kay, that is enough for tonight. Should have time in the morn 10 hours hence.

Denesmet, on 01 December 2015 - 09:05 PM, said:

Khells is a good player with keen insight. I really am having trouble locking onto Telas, but think that Khell's gut (as long as he wasn't symp) may be good enough reason to knock off Telas. I need to read more, of course, so expect me back around the same time as yesterday.

You know. I don't like Denesmet defending Telas. We are already linking them together. I think if one comes up scum then the other might.

Telas looks more suspicious in his play but Denesmet's lack of suspicion on Telas has me thinking he's more likely to turn out scum.

vote Denesmet

There may be a link there, but I think I'm more inclined to vote Telas if Denesmet is defending him.

[Lock]

I have gotten slammed at work today. One of my coworkers is out due to a new baby. So maturity I think. Anyway means a bunch of shit has came my way that she would usually take care of. I apologize for not getting on and posting more today. Hopefully things will calm down a bit tomorrow. I should be able to get on for a bit in the morning before the other asshats get in.

[Ultama]

Kadagar Fant, on 01 December 2015 - 09:48 PM, said:

I think I'm more inclined to vote Telas if Denesmet is defending him.

I agree with this.

Denesmet is more likely to be symp than Telas, in which case lynch wouldn't tell us anything.

I think this is better case than Lock's now, would like to hear more from Fande.

vote Telas


Off to bed

[Merrid]

Ultama, on 01 December 2015 - 10:12 PM, said:

Kadagar Fant, on 01 December 2015 - 09:48 PM, said:

I think I'm more inclined to vote Telas if Denesmet is defending him.

I agree with this.

Denesmet is more likely to be symp than Telas, in which case lynch wouldn't tell us anything.

I think this is better case than Lock's now, would like to hear more from Fande.

vote Telas


Off to bed

There's that Tapper connection of you two being on the same side.

I'm thinking they could both be scum, dem or Telas, but anyone defending anyone on multiple occasions is more suspicious to me. That's just my view though

[Ultama]

Merrid, on 01 December 2015 - 10:16 PM, said:

Ultama, on 01 December 2015 - 10:12 PM, said:

Kadagar Fant, on 01 December 2015 - 09:48 PM, said:

I think I'm more inclined to vote Telas if Denesmet is defending him.

I agree with this.

Denesmet is more likely to be symp than Telas, in which case lynch wouldn't tell us anything.

I think this is better case than Lock's now, would like to hear more from Fande.

vote Telas


Off to bed

There's that Tapper connection of you two being on the same side.

I'm thinking they could both be scum, dem or Telas, but anyone defending anyone on multiple occasions is more suspicious to me. That's just my view though

Yeah, as single players, I dislike Den more than I dislike Telas, because Lock's and Fande's case are both similar to Telas'.

Reasons I see to purposely overlook (and let yourself be heard that you do so, I don't think he had any comments on Fande or Lock) case are:

a) Killer - Killer connection
Symp - Killer connection
c) Scum trying to connect to random RI, putting the random RI in light making it look like a) or , in both cases random RI would be viewed as killer. Also in case rRI would by lynched and revealed as RI, it would play in scum's favour
- but then there was this for example

Telas, on 24 November 2015 - 05:03 PM, said:

Denesmet, on 24 November 2015 - 04:45 PM, said:

vote grasp.

For suggesting a paired scum mechanic that requires signaling to identify each other while not seeing the logical fallacy of his purposefully misleading speculation.

Best case i can see in the page or two of dialogue..

Vote Grasp

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 27 hours and 46 minutes remaining

8 Players still alive: Denesmet, Fanderay, Kadagar Fant, Lock, Merrid, Olar Ethil, Telas, Ultama

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Denesmet ( Merrid )
1 Vote for Lock ( Telas )
1 Vote for Olar Ethil ( Kadagar Fant )
1 Vote for Telas ( Ultama )

Players not voted: Denesmet, Fanderay, Lock, Olar Ethil

[Merrid]

Ultama, on 01 December 2015 - 10:37 PM, said:

Merrid, on 01 December 2015 - 10:16 PM, said:

Ultama, on 01 December 2015 - 10:12 PM, said:

Kadagar Fant, on 01 December 2015 - 09:48 PM, said:

I think I'm more inclined to vote Telas if Denesmet is defending him.

I agree with this.

Denesmet is more likely to be symp than Telas, in which case lynch wouldn't tell us anything.

I think this is better case than Lock's now, would like to hear more from Fande.

vote Telas


Off to bed

There's that Tapper connection of you two being on the same side.

I'm thinking they could both be scum, dem or Telas, but anyone defending anyone on multiple occasions is more suspicious to me. That's just my view though

Yeah, as single players, I dislike Den more than I dislike Telas, because Lock's and Fande's case are both similar to Telas'.

Reasons I see to purposely overlook (and let yourself be heard that you do so, I don't think he had any comments on Fande or Lock) case are:

a) Killer - Killer connection
Symp - Killer connection
c) Scum trying to connect to random RI, putting the random RI in light making it look like a) or , in both cases random RI would be viewed as killer. Also in case rRI would by lynched and revealed as RI, it would play in scum's favour
- but then there was this for example

Telas, on 24 November 2015 - 05:03 PM, said:

Denesmet, on 24 November 2015 - 04:45 PM, said:

vote grasp.

For suggesting a paired scum mechanic that requires signaling to identify each other while not seeing the logical fallacy of his purposefully misleading speculation.

Best case i can see in the page or two of dialogue..

Vote Grasp

I just went back and checked, this was the first instance in which they interact or agree with each other.

What are you hinting at though? From your example it looks as though Dem has the higher chance of turning out to be scum.

[Denesmet]

Sorry guys. Can't do much. I got the real influenza, despite having flu shots.... which are not bullet proof sadly. Out for this mafia day, and we'll have to see how tomorrow goes.

[Gnaw]

It is Day 3. 22 hours and 37 minutes remaining
8 Players still alive: Denesmet, Fanderay, Kadagar Fant, Lock, Merrid, Olar Ethil, Telas, Ultama

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Denesmet ( Merrid )
1 Vote for Lock ( Telas )
1 Vote for Olar Ethil ( Kadagar Fant )
1 Vote for Telas ( Ultama )

Players not voted: Denesmet, Fanderay, Lock, Olar Ethil

[Merrid]

This is a slow moving game. Cards close to chest anyone?

Looking at those options I think we have one scum minimum in there.

Denesmet's defense is the flu. I don't buy it to be honest but benefit of the doubt and all that.

remove vote

Vote Telas

Every day so far, drop a vote and leave. No discussion, nada. Plus what I said earlier.

[Ultama]

I wanted to see Dens reaction, but thats not happeningn today. My problem is Telas could easily be uninteresred RI, in this way Lock´s loudy defense is more susp to me. We need other people's thoughts too...

[Merrid]

Exactly. Sc are just sitting back and letting us make the wrong decisions. Or at least cast doubt on them. That is why both Fanderay and lock are suspicious. The only time either of them have contributed was when they received a vote.

I'm not talking about voting. I'm talking about any discussion on thread.

Yet like you say about Telas, they are voting. Just not participating in other ways.

[Ultama]

Biggeat problem are numbers now. Possibly theres 3 scum alive, if we lynch One RI, killers kill another and we lost. Thats why Den could be best choice, even if theýre symp

[Kadagar Fant]

Ultama, on 02 December 2015 - 10:40 AM, said:

I wanted to see Dens reaction, but thats not happeningn today. My problem is Telas could easily be uninteresred RI, in this way Lock´s loudy defense is more susp to me. We need other people's thoughts too...

I get the same sense from OE. He posts just to keep from getting mod killed but then spazzs when a vote gets places on him.

[Ultama]

Ultama, on 02 December 2015 - 12:51 PM, said:

Biggeat problem are numbers now. Possibly theres 3 scum alive, if we lynch One RI, killers kill another and we lost. Thats why Den could be best choice, even if theýre symp

Thats also why Den's flu post is susp to me. They might be just hoping we will let that matter for tommorow, which also plays in favoir of them being symp, I dont think killer would bet on symp being alive and do this.

[Kadagar Fant]

Merrid, on 02 December 2015 - 10:17 AM, said:

This is a slow moving game. Cards close to chest anyone?

Looking at those options I think we have one scum minimum in there.

Denesmet's defense is the flu. I don't buy it to be honest but benefit of the doubt and all that.

remove vote

Vote Telas

Every day so far, drop a vote and leave. No discussion, nada. Plus what I said earlier.

I think your Telas case looks the strongest, and Dem is more sympish.

remove vote

Vote Telas

[Ultama]

Ultama, on 02 December 2015 - 01:03 PM, said:

Ultama, on 02 December 2015 - 12:51 PM, said:

Biggeat problem are numbers now. Possibly theres 3 scum alive, if we lynch One RI, killers kill another and we lost. Thats why Den could be best choice, even if theýre symp

Thats also why Den's flu post is susp to me. They might be just hoping we will let that matter for tommorow, which also plays in favoir of them being symp, I dont think killer would bet on symp being alive and do this.

So I would sum this up like this: Den is more likely to be scum than Telas, but Telas is more likely to be killer.

With the numbers, maybe we should go with Den. Thoughts?

[Telas]

So the other excuses were better than a funeral and finding out your dog has cancer. Huh, I'll just say I'm busy next time and not bother to vote or add my two cents. Clearly I am scum as people followed my vote each time. I have to say I practically lead every town lynch.

So my thoughts, either the town has no chance in hell and votes me...or you move onto another case that makes just the smallest ounce of sense.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 11 hours and 50 minutes remaining

8 Players still alive: Denesmet, Fanderay, Kadagar Fant, Lock, Merrid, Olar Ethil, Telas, Ultama

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Lock ( Telas )
3 Votes for Telas ( Ultama, Merrid, Kadagar Fant )

Players not voted: Denesmet, Fanderay, Lock, Olar Ethil