[Emurlahn]

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:51 PM, said:

I'm here and regardless of good cop bad cop I doubt either will be serial killer or recruiter, thoughts on this?

Fuck you Silanah for leaving it so late. You nay get your wish after all re no lynch.

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:53 PM, said:

Remove vote

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:55 PM, said:

Silanah, on 10 November 2015 - 11:53 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:51 PM, said:

I'm here and regardless of good cop bad cop I doubt either will be serial killer or recruiter, thoughts on this?

Fuck you Silanah for leaving it so late. You nay get your wish after all re no lynch.

If i hadn't of left it running late, wouldn't have reeled anything in. It was a gambit.

What did you reel in?

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:56 PM, said:

Shadow is middle of the pack, I'll quickly read him.

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 12:00 AM, said:

I'm not feeling a shadow lynch. I've liked their play so far. What's the beef with them?

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 12:02 AM, said:

vote Emurlahn

He's 2 posts in. Not pro active town play is it. I'm open to suggestions though.

Was going to go asleep thinking Silanah was being lynched but I'll stay up to give you my vote.

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 12:03 AM, said:

Grasp, on 11 November 2015 - 12:01 AM, said:

Jesus dude. I am voting Karo for forcing a lynch on a possibly inno person.

That is a good call. Has he explained himself?

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 12:07 AM, said:

Shit 55 minutes. How many active people on thread? 8 anonymous people.

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 12:10 AM, said:

remove vote

Vote karosis

Trying to push through a lynch on a cop. What a mistake to make.

I may be only two posts in, but then again, I am not making statements that I will read up on someone I grab out of thin air, then say I like them, then vote person X based on inactivity when that is based probably on the post count alone, then ask why Y is voted without making the effort myself, then quote the time and people around and then legitimize my vote as if it was oh so logical as if Grasp wasn't needed to explain it.

Nine posts, few of more than a sentence and one being a remove only and not understanding the concept behind the vote train, and yet you have the balls to tell me I'm not contributing? How do you define your contribution up there...good town play?

[Ultama]

Emurlahn, on 11 November 2015 - 08:17 AM, said:

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:51 PM, said:

I'm here and regardless of good cop bad cop I doubt either will be serial killer or recruiter, thoughts on this?

Fuck you Silanah for leaving it so late. You nay get your wish after all re no lynch.

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:53 PM, said:

Remove vote

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:55 PM, said:

Silanah, on 10 November 2015 - 11:53 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:51 PM, said:

I'm here and regardless of good cop bad cop I doubt either will be serial killer or recruiter, thoughts on this?

Fuck you Silanah for leaving it so late. You nay get your wish after all re no lynch.

If i hadn't of left it running late, wouldn't have reeled anything in. It was a gambit.

What did you reel in?

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:56 PM, said:

Shadow is middle of the pack, I'll quickly read him.

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 12:00 AM, said:

I'm not feeling a shadow lynch. I've liked their play so far. What's the beef with them?

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 12:02 AM, said:

vote Emurlahn

He's 2 posts in. Not pro active town play is it. I'm open to suggestions though.

Was going to go asleep thinking Silanah was being lynched but I'll stay up to give you my vote.

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 12:03 AM, said:

Grasp, on 11 November 2015 - 12:01 AM, said:

Jesus dude. I am voting Karo for forcing a lynch on a possibly inno person.

That is a good call. Has he explained himself?

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 12:07 AM, said:

Shit 55 minutes. How many active people on thread? 8 anonymous people.

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 12:10 AM, said:

remove vote

Vote karosis

Trying to push through a lynch on a cop. What a mistake to make.

I may be only two posts in, but then again, I am not making statements that I will read up on someone I grab out of thin air, then say I like them, then vote person X based on inactivity when that is based probably on the post count alone, then ask why Y is voted without making the effort myself, then quote the time and people around and then legitimize my vote as if it was oh so logical as if Grasp wasn't needed to explain it.

Nine posts, few of more than a sentence and one being a remove only and not understanding the concept behind the vote train, and yet you have the balls to tell me I'm not contributing? How do you define your contribution up there...good town play?

Yes. Activity is good town play. When time is counting down its best for the thread to be active. Would you prefer everyone to have minimal posts with content? 30 posts day one? You think we would have lynched with that level of activity. Everybody being careful and wooden?

If you think your 2 posts are going to help us win the game then think again.

Now, onto the Karosis lynch.

Ansible/Karosis going after Silanah even though he knew him to be a cop raised hackles in the end but he turned out to be the police chief. That's not good play by him I think, he needs to get with the program and blend in with such a role. He probably had more information than the rest of us which got him killed.

Was there any indication of who he was early in the game? If so then we can look at the players instrumental in his lynch.

[Liosan]

Path-Shaper, on 08 November 2015 - 08:47 PM, said:

The city is in trouble as only a major city can be. Budget cuts have been enacted across city departments including the Coroner's office. There are good cops and bad cops but with the budget cuts even detectives are riding solo most days. Heroin is making a comeback and with it the Mafiosos. The Salvadorans are not happy with that situation. And neither group is happy that somebody is knocking off their stash houses, each blaming the other of wanting to start a war. But the talk of the city is the rumor (as reported by the investigative reporter {anonymous blogger} Fener) that the FBI has warned that the Body Snatcher has come to town; a serial killer who kidnaps the victim on one night. The next night leaving just the hands and head on a street corner. Nobody knows where the rest of the corpses are or why the Body Snatcher moves on to another city after four kills. There are multiple VCs. There is the possibility of players leaving the game upon completion of a VC.

Path-Shaper, on 11 November 2015 - 03:06 AM, said:

The Coroner's Office releases the following information:

Path-Shaper, on 11 November 2015 - 02:24 AM, said:

Your autopsy results:Karosis was the Salvadoran Cartel Captain and Ansible.

I am sorry, where does it say police chief?

[Ultama]

Just in case we are doing this. I know the cf was less than ideal. What was your input on it...

Emurlahn, on 10 November 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

No, it fucking isn't!

Day 1 lynches ONLY BENEFIT SCUM! That is a tried and fucking tested rule!

Really? I'd love to see your source for that rule.
In any case, it shouldn't apply this game, given that it is a faction game with singular VCs as a sauce poured over it, not town vs scum.

Other than your first post. Does this indicate to us where and who we should lynch?

Basically you went through the whole of day one without putting any content down and you didn't even vote.

Would you agree that is bad town play?

[Ultama]

Liosan, on 11 November 2015 - 09:17 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 08 November 2015 - 08:47 PM, said:

The city is in trouble as only a major city can be. Budget cuts have been enacted across city departments including the Coroner's office. There are good cops and bad cops but with the budget cuts even detectives are riding solo most days. Heroin is making a comeback and with it the Mafiosos. The Salvadorans are not happy with that situation. And neither group is happy that somebody is knocking off their stash houses, each blaming the other of wanting to start a war. But the talk of the city is the rumor (as reported by the investigative reporter {anonymous blogger} Fener) that the FBI has warned that the Body Snatcher has come to town; a serial killer who kidnaps the victim on one night. The next night leaving just the hands and head on a street corner. Nobody knows where the rest of the corpses are or why the Body Snatcher moves on to another city after four kills. There are multiple VCs. There is the possibility of players leaving the game upon completion of a VC.

Path-Shaper, on 11 November 2015 - 03:06 AM, said:

The Coroner's Office releases the following information:

Path-Shaper, on 11 November 2015 - 02:24 AM, said:

Your autopsy results:Karosis was the Salvadoran Cartel Captain and Ansible.

I am sorry, where does it say police chief?

Isn't that what a Captain is? That was my interpretation of the cf

[Emurlahn]

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 09:06 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on 11 November 2015 - 08:17 AM, said:

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:51 PM, said:

I'm here and regardless of good cop bad cop I doubt either will be serial killer or recruiter, thoughts on this?

Fuck you Silanah for leaving it so late. You nay get your wish after all re no lynch.

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:53 PM, said:

Remove vote

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:55 PM, said:

Silanah, on 10 November 2015 - 11:53 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:51 PM, said:

I'm here and regardless of good cop bad cop I doubt either will be serial killer or recruiter, thoughts on this?

Fuck you Silanah for leaving it so late. You nay get your wish after all re no lynch.

If i hadn't of left it running late, wouldn't have reeled anything in. It was a gambit.

What did you reel in?

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:56 PM, said:

Shadow is middle of the pack, I'll quickly read him.

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 12:00 AM, said:

I'm not feeling a shadow lynch. I've liked their play so far. What's the beef with them?

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 12:02 AM, said:

vote Emurlahn

He's 2 posts in. Not pro active town play is it. I'm open to suggestions though.

Was going to go asleep thinking Silanah was being lynched but I'll stay up to give you my vote.

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 12:03 AM, said:

Grasp, on 11 November 2015 - 12:01 AM, said:

Jesus dude. I am voting Karo for forcing a lynch on a possibly inno person.

That is a good call. Has he explained himself?

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 12:07 AM, said:

Shit 55 minutes. How many active people on thread? 8 anonymous people.

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 12:10 AM, said:

remove vote

Vote karosis

Trying to push through a lynch on a cop. What a mistake to make.

I may be only two posts in, but then again, I am not making statements that I will read up on someone I grab out of thin air, then say I like them, then vote person X based on inactivity when that is based probably on the post count alone, then ask why Y is voted without making the effort myself, then quote the time and people around and then legitimize my vote as if it was oh so logical as if Grasp wasn't needed to explain it.

Nine posts, few of more than a sentence and one being a remove only and not understanding the concept behind the vote train, and yet you have the balls to tell me I'm not contributing? How do you define your contribution up there...good town play?

Yes. Activity is good town play. When time is counting down its best for the thread to be active. Would you prefer everyone to have minimal posts with content? 30 posts day one? You think we would have lynched with that level of activity. Everybody being careful and wooden?

If you think your 2 posts are going to help us win the game then think again.

If you think the nine posts I quoted equate content that's going to win the game, think again.

Quote

Now, onto the Karosis lynch.

You mean the one that needed to be explained to you?

Quote

Ansible/Karosis going after Silanah even though he knew him to be a cop raised hackles in the end but he turned out to be the police chief.

Ansible was the Salvadoran Cartel Captain and thereby "scum". Get your facts straight.
Silanah is to my knowledge also not the police chief. He made an arrest and since then the thread has been filled with convo about whether he is a good cop or bad cop with him hinting he'd be 'good' when pressed by Anomandaris.

Quote

That's not good play by him I think, he needs to get with the program and blend in with such a role. He probably had more information than the rest of us which got him killed.

Was there any indication of who he was early in the game? If so then we can look at the players instrumental in his lynch.

I think ansible either didn't remove on time with a 'whoops, mistake' after Grasp got him, or severely overestimated the amount of influence the Salvadorans & Mafioso could have on the train, number-wise, and kept his vote there.

[Ultama]

Emurlahn, on 11 November 2015 - 07:55 AM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:14 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 10 November 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

No, it fucking isn't!

Day 1 lynches ONLY BENEFIT SCUM! That is a tried and fucking tested rule!

Really? I'd love to see your source for that rule.
In any case, it shouldn't apply this game, given that it is a faction game with singular VCs as a sauce poured over it, not town vs scum.

Holy shit this thread is filled with fucking idiots....

This is from the Mafia 101 thread, in Tapper's very first post:

Quote

In basic games, new players tend to place too much emphasis on certainty of innocence or guilt and consider minimizing the amount of casualties a town priority. This is generally characterized by an unwillingness to vote someone or considering a no-lynch a better option than the lynch of a town player. This is nowhere more pronounced than on day 1, when people are often voted out for the most ridiculous reasons by veterans and rookies are hesitant to vote or even prefer a no-lynch.

Take some time, learn how to play the fucking game...

And then, let's add the fact that Faction games require the fucking Day 1 lynch even more than town vs scum games, given that no one wants to fucking do anything until we have something to work with to go on a culture hunt.

Like, is it really that hard for you fucking numb nuts to use your fucking brains and actually think about it?

1. Re-read what I wrote. Imagine I ask that the question "Really? I'd love to see your source for that rule" with a raised eyebrow. A bit like this:



That goes for Eloth and every other player who thought I was symping/defending Silanah, too.


2. Quoting Tapper at people when Tapper is in the same game might sometimes lead to embarrassing situations when Tapper is CFed, mostly for the one who made the quote.

Did someone suggest you were symping or defending Silanah?

[Ultama]

Emurlahn, on 11 November 2015 - 07:57 AM, said:

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 04:45 PM, said:

Silanah, on 10 November 2015 - 04:00 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 03:43 PM, said:

Silanah, on 10 November 2015 - 03:40 PM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 03:11 PM, said:

Silanah, on 10 November 2015 - 02:13 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:32 AM, said:

Are we going to assume Fener is the Survivor?

The SK is the Body Snatcher.

Does it identify who the recruiters will be?

re read that long drivel thats supposed to be a blog post, near the end it mentions he needs to recruit people for the sake of finding information. While I doubt vengeance is dumb enough to admit that (the quality of the blog posts would have you think otherwise, raywilliamjohnson is funnier than this stuff) it's there. As is highlighting information that'd be useful to scum. We all know who benefits from town role speculation.

what's ambiguous is the amount of scum players around. There's a recruiter at play so its possible we have a low amount of starting scum. As such unless someone makes a colossal fuckup (like in the last two games) there's no reason to lynch d1.

I think we need to start seeing more posts from some of our less active members

What the actual fuck, dude? It NEVER benefits town now to lynch on Day 1! Such a big fucking load of hooey - town can only gain information from lynch trains and reactions to lynch trains. No one is going to react, no one is going to do anything for us to analyze, if we all just sit back and wait for something to happen. The point of fucking Mafia is to lynch, and make opinions based on those lynched.

What is with you people?

d1 lynches are a crapshoot. Analysing lynch trains is an interesting idea.

Still no word on grasp. and we're 8 hours away from days end

The last 2 games have both benefitted from a d1 lynch. Every game ever would and should benefit from one as well. You're basically saying there's no need for us to lynch day 1. For that reason I'm going to

remove vote

Vote silanah

If they are advocating no lynch then they are wanting to win through night actions.

Really? could have sworn that d1 lynch on emularhn gave us dick all in terms of usable information to win that game, (the one two games ago).

As for every game ever benifiting from d1 lynches, i'd disagree. Given that we're playing with more than the usual amount of unknowns (several different VC exist, unknown amount of scum and new abilities) I think it's safe to say we can't make the same assumptions we always do.

The one assumption we can make is town will lose if they do. Not. Lynch.

That lynch of Emurlahn and subsequent fixation of Liosan by more than a couple of players held a lot of clues. Town didn't pick up on them so well but they were there. Hindsight is a bitch but 3 players knew who the killers were and picked up on it. That was all through that day one.

I am still alive afaik.
If you refer to a different game, mention that.

It is mentioned by Silanah I replied to him.

[Emurlahn]

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 09:18 AM, said:

Just in case we are doing this. I know the cf was less than ideal. What was your input on it...

Emurlahn, on 10 November 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

No, it fucking isn't!

Day 1 lynches ONLY BENEFIT SCUM! That is a tried and fucking tested rule!

Really? I'd love to see your source for that rule.
In any case, it shouldn't apply this game, given that it is a faction game with singular VCs as a sauce poured over it, not town vs scum.

Other than your first post. Does this indicate to us where and who we should lynch?

Basically you went through the whole of day one without putting any content down and you didn't even vote.

Would you agree that is bad town play?

No, I'd say I have a very limited posting window, of 8 hours a day and only when I am not in meetings, on the phone or otherwise engaged with work. In a 30 hour game day it is inevitable that I sometimtes have only 1 posting window.

Second, you completely fail to see that this post came in reply to Silanah and questioned him (as I later explained, see the page before this one, it even contains a picture to make it easier to grasp) only a couple of hours into the day. Context, dear Ultama, is everything.

[Emurlahn]

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 09:25 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on 11 November 2015 - 07:55 AM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:14 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 10 November 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

No, it fucking isn't!

Day 1 lynches ONLY BENEFIT SCUM! That is a tried and fucking tested rule!

Really? I'd love to see your source for that rule.
In any case, it shouldn't apply this game, given that it is a faction game with singular VCs as a sauce poured over it, not town vs scum.

Holy shit this thread is filled with fucking idiots....

This is from the Mafia 101 thread, in Tapper's very first post:

Quote

In basic games, new players tend to place too much emphasis on certainty of innocence or guilt and consider minimizing the amount of casualties a town priority. This is generally characterized by an unwillingness to vote someone or considering a no-lynch a better option than the lynch of a town player. This is nowhere more pronounced than on day 1, when people are often voted out for the most ridiculous reasons by veterans and rookies are hesitant to vote or even prefer a no-lynch.

Take some time, learn how to play the fucking game...

And then, let's add the fact that Faction games require the fucking Day 1 lynch even more than town vs scum games, given that no one wants to fucking do anything until we have something to work with to go on a culture hunt.

Like, is it really that hard for you fucking numb nuts to use your fucking brains and actually think about it?

1. Re-read what I wrote. Imagine I ask that the question "Really? I'd love to see your source for that rule" with a raised eyebrow. A bit like this:



That goes for Eloth and every other player who thought I was symping/defending Silanah, too.


2. Quoting Tapper at people when Tapper is in the same game might sometimes lead to embarrassing situations when Tapper is CFed, mostly for the one who made the quote.

Did someone suggest you were symping or defending Silanah?

Did you read the thread?

[Emurlahn]

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 09:19 AM, said:

Liosan, on 11 November 2015 - 09:17 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 08 November 2015 - 08:47 PM, said:

The city is in trouble as only a major city can be. Budget cuts have been enacted across city departments including the Coroner's office. There are good cops and bad cops but with the budget cuts even detectives are riding solo most days. Heroin is making a comeback and with it the Mafiosos. The Salvadorans are not happy with that situation. And neither group is happy that somebody is knocking off their stash houses, each blaming the other of wanting to start a war. But the talk of the city is the rumor (as reported by the investigative reporter {anonymous blogger} Fener) that the FBI has warned that the Body Snatcher has come to town; a serial killer who kidnaps the victim on one night. The next night leaving just the hands and head on a street corner. Nobody knows where the rest of the corpses are or why the Body Snatcher moves on to another city after four kills. There are multiple VCs. There is the possibility of players leaving the game upon completion of a VC.

Path-Shaper, on 11 November 2015 - 03:06 AM, said:

The Coroner's Office releases the following information:

Path-Shaper, on 11 November 2015 - 02:24 AM, said:

Your autopsy results:Karosis was the Salvadoran Cartel Captain and Ansible.

I am sorry, where does it say police chief?

Isn't that what a Captain is? That was my interpretation of the cf

so

SALVADORAN CARTEL means nothing to you? read the OP again.

[Ultama]

Emurlahn, on 11 November 2015 - 09:24 AM, said:

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 09:06 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on 11 November 2015 - 08:17 AM, said:

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:51 PM, said:

I'm here and regardless of good cop bad cop I doubt either will be serial killer or recruiter, thoughts on this?

Fuck you Silanah for leaving it so late. You nay get your wish after all re no lynch.

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:53 PM, said:

Remove vote

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:55 PM, said:

Silanah, on 10 November 2015 - 11:53 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:51 PM, said:

I'm here and regardless of good cop bad cop I doubt either will be serial killer or recruiter, thoughts on this?

Fuck you Silanah for leaving it so late. You nay get your wish after all re no lynch.

If i hadn't of left it running late, wouldn't have reeled anything in. It was a gambit.

What did you reel in?

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:56 PM, said:

Shadow is middle of the pack, I'll quickly read him.

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 12:00 AM, said:

I'm not feeling a shadow lynch. I've liked their play so far. What's the beef with them?

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 12:02 AM, said:

vote Emurlahn

He's 2 posts in. Not pro active town play is it. I'm open to suggestions though.

Was going to go asleep thinking Silanah was being lynched but I'll stay up to give you my vote.

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 12:03 AM, said:

Grasp, on 11 November 2015 - 12:01 AM, said:

Jesus dude. I am voting Karo for forcing a lynch on a possibly inno person.

That is a good call. Has he explained himself?

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 12:07 AM, said:

Shit 55 minutes. How many active people on thread? 8 anonymous people.

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 12:10 AM, said:

remove vote

Vote karosis

Trying to push through a lynch on a cop. What a mistake to make.

I may be only two posts in, but then again, I am not making statements that I will read up on someone I grab out of thin air, then say I like them, then vote person X based on inactivity when that is based probably on the post count alone, then ask why Y is voted without making the effort myself, then quote the time and people around and then legitimize my vote as if it was oh so logical as if Grasp wasn't needed to explain it.

Nine posts, few of more than a sentence and one being a remove only and not understanding the concept behind the vote train, and yet you have the balls to tell me I'm not contributing? How do you define your contribution up there...good town play?

Yes. Activity is good town play. When time is counting down its best for the thread to be active. Would you prefer everyone to have minimal posts with content? 30 posts day one? You think we would have lynched with that level of activity. Everybody being careful and wooden?

If you think your 2 posts are going to help us win the game then think again.

If you think the nine posts I quoted equate content that's going to win the game, think again.

Quote

Now, onto the Karosis lynch.

You mean the one that needed to be explained to you?

Quote

Ansible/Karosis going after Silanah even though he knew him to be a cop raised hackles in the end but he turned out to be the police chief.

Ansible was the Salvadoran Cartel Captain and thereby "scum". Get your facts straight.
Silanah is to my knowledge also not the police chief. He made an arrest and since then the thread has been filled with convo about whether he is a good cop or bad cop with him hinting he'd be 'good' when pressed by Anomandaris.

Quote

That's not good play by him I think, he needs to get with the program and blend in with such a role. He probably had more information than the rest of us which got him killed.

Was there any indication of who he was early in the game? If so then we can look at the players instrumental in his lynch.

I think ansible either didn't remove on time with a 'whoops, mistake' after Grasp got him, or severely overestimated the amount of influence the Salvadorans & Mafioso could have on the train, number-wise, and kept his vote there.

I apologise if I sound like a dick. Yes I miss things but the heart is in the right place.

I've been fixated on the SK that I didn't even think there'd be Mafioso or Cartel influencing the thread.

No wonder Karosis pushed for Silanah as Silanah was a cop which must be against the cartels and the mafia aswel as the SK.

[Ultama]

Emurlahn, on 11 November 2015 - 09:28 AM, said:

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 09:25 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on 11 November 2015 - 07:55 AM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:14 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 10 November 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

No, it fucking isn't!

Day 1 lynches ONLY BENEFIT SCUM! That is a tried and fucking tested rule!

Really? I'd love to see your source for that rule.
In any case, it shouldn't apply this game, given that it is a faction game with singular VCs as a sauce poured over it, not town vs scum.

Holy shit this thread is filled with fucking idiots....

This is from the Mafia 101 thread, in Tapper's very first post:

Quote

In basic games, new players tend to place too much emphasis on certainty of innocence or guilt and consider minimizing the amount of casualties a town priority. This is generally characterized by an unwillingness to vote someone or considering a no-lynch a better option than the lynch of a town player. This is nowhere more pronounced than on day 1, when people are often voted out for the most ridiculous reasons by veterans and rookies are hesitant to vote or even prefer a no-lynch.

Take some time, learn how to play the fucking game...

And then, let's add the fact that Faction games require the fucking Day 1 lynch even more than town vs scum games, given that no one wants to fucking do anything until we have something to work with to go on a culture hunt.

Like, is it really that hard for you fucking numb nuts to use your fucking brains and actually think about it?

1. Re-read what I wrote. Imagine I ask that the question "Really? I'd love to see your source for that rule" with a raised eyebrow. A bit like this:



That goes for Eloth and every other player who thought I was symping/defending Silanah, too.


2. Quoting Tapper at people when Tapper is in the same game might sometimes lead to embarrassing situations when Tapper is CFed, mostly for the one who made the quote.

Did someone suggest you were symping or defending Silanah?

Did you read the thread?

2 posts by you cannot be seen as symping or defending I'm afraid. Not that I can see anyway.

[Emurlahn]

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 09:31 AM, said:

I apologise if I sound like a dick. Yes I miss things but the heart is in the right place.

Then why is it so fucking hard to believe that within my limited window I do what I can to play the game and play it well, with the heart in the right place, too?

[Emurlahn]

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 09:32 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on 11 November 2015 - 09:28 AM, said:

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 09:25 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on 11 November 2015 - 07:55 AM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:14 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 10 November 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

No, it fucking isn't!

Day 1 lynches ONLY BENEFIT SCUM! That is a tried and fucking tested rule!

Really? I'd love to see your source for that rule.
In any case, it shouldn't apply this game, given that it is a faction game with singular VCs as a sauce poured over it, not town vs scum.

Holy shit this thread is filled with fucking idiots....

This is from the Mafia 101 thread, in Tapper's very first post:

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In basic games, new players tend to place too much emphasis on certainty of innocence or guilt and consider minimizing the amount of casualties a town priority. This is generally characterized by an unwillingness to vote someone or considering a no-lynch a better option than the lynch of a town player. This is nowhere more pronounced than on day 1, when people are often voted out for the most ridiculous reasons by veterans and rookies are hesitant to vote or even prefer a no-lynch.

Take some time, learn how to play the fucking game...

And then, let's add the fact that Faction games require the fucking Day 1 lynch even more than town vs scum games, given that no one wants to fucking do anything until we have something to work with to go on a culture hunt.

Like, is it really that hard for you fucking numb nuts to use your fucking brains and actually think about it?

1. Re-read what I wrote. Imagine I ask that the question "Really? I'd love to see your source for that rule" with a raised eyebrow. A bit like this:



That goes for Eloth and every other player who thought I was symping/defending Silanah, too.


2. Quoting Tapper at people when Tapper is in the same game might sometimes lead to embarrassing situations when Tapper is CFed, mostly for the one who made the quote.

Did someone suggest you were symping or defending Silanah?

Did you read the thread?

2 posts by you cannot be seen as symping or defending I'm afraid. Not that I can see anyway.

Several players (Tholen, Eloth) saw silanah as a noob and read my intentions as agreeing/protecting him on the issue of day 1 lynches. It's somewhere on page 3/4 or so.

[Ultama]

Emurlahn, on 11 November 2015 - 09:35 AM, said:

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 09:31 AM, said:

I apologise if I sound like a dick. Yes I miss things but the heart is in the right place.

Then why is it so fucking hard to believe that within my limited window I do what I can to play the game and play it well, with the heart in the right place, too?

Well now you're here and gave a little time who do you suggest may be the SK? You're uncanny enough to pick him out. (Unless I'm talking to him)

[Emurlahn]

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 09:37 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on 11 November 2015 - 09:35 AM, said:

Ultama, on 11 November 2015 - 09:31 AM, said:

I apologise if I sound like a dick. Yes I miss things but the heart is in the right place.

Then why is it so fucking hard to believe that within my limited window I do what I can to play the game and play it well, with the heart in the right place, too?

Well now you're here and gave a little time who do you suggest may be the SK? You're uncanny enough to pick him out. (Unless I'm talking to him)

After 1 day, only 1 death and with nothing to distinguish between him and the rest of the thread?
I know of two people besides myself who aren't the SK, cartel or mafia and might at some point today learn about another person. I further trust Silanah to be what he says he is, and I presume he's got the same role as I do.

One of those people I know is my Buddy, the other is RI and recruitable.
You must forgive me for not revealing either identity.

[Ultama]

Eloth, on 10 November 2015 - 07:38 PM, said:

Here's my problem with voting Silanah. I'm just not sure if that was noob logic in the works..what concerns me more is that Emurlahn backed-up his argument and essentially agreed with it (at least that how I read it). I like that even less than the initial idea that we shouldn't vote d1 especially since they've only made 2 posts today.

The related posts below, all 2 :

Emurlahn, on 10 November 2015 - 07:39 AM, said:

Liosan, on 10 November 2015 - 05:15 AM, said:

Urgh that pizza alone makes me want to lynch Fener

I will sympathize with that. Given Venge is modding and mocked in this post, something no sane player would do given the fact he's an angry spiteful bastard who plays mafia as if he's driving extremely nice guy whom I love and cherish and have nothing bad to say about, I think Fener will be a mod-puppet for scenes.

Emurlahn, on 10 November 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

No, it fucking isn't!

Day 1 lynches ONLY BENEFIT SCUM! That is a tried and fucking tested rule!

Really? I'd love to see your source for that rule.
In any case, it shouldn't apply this game, given that it is a faction game with singular VCs as a sauce poured over it, not town vs scum.

That being said, I will vote Silanah if the consensus is they need to be lynched.

Eloth, on 10 November 2015 - 07:50 PM, said:

Denul, on 10 November 2015 - 07:43 PM, said:

So, you're saying that Silanah's no-lynch suggestion was just a noob-action, but that actual backing of such an idea while staying low is more suspicious?

What makes you think backing it up is any less noobish than suggesting it in the first place?

Yep. I found it more suspicious.

I see what your saying and it is a good point. I guess my thinking was that they backed them when the pressure was on Silanah over that comment and that seemed a less noobish thing to do. That a noob would of stayed out of the argument not actively joined it.

Omtose, on 10 November 2015 - 08:11 PM, said:

If that is a real consideration instead of just bandying words about for the sake of appearances, Eloth, throw a vote down to improve the possibility of switching the train, otherwise it is definitely not going to happen. More Pressure!

Eloth, on 10 November 2015 - 08:17 PM, said:

will do-

VOTE EMURLAHN

Karosis, on 10 November 2015 - 11:18 PM, said:

Hey, I was at least able to read up through the thread.

The oddest thing to me right now is Eloth's vote on Emur; Eloth made this long post about Emur this, whatever, and didn't vote. It wasn't until Omtose pushed him to vote that Eloth voted Emur, which looks like deflection from the Silanah train (which was at 4/8 votes). I suspect we will need to look into this more tomorrow as the day is ending, as others said.

I'm in the Day 1 lynch >>> Day 1 no-lynch camp for sure, and I can get behind the Silanah lynch.

Vote Silanah

If anything Eloth could be the one construed as symping/defending Silanah not you Emurlahn.

What's interesting is that you interpret that way. Are psychologically trying to make us think of you as Silanahs symp or discuss you in that context over some other bigger role?

[Liosan]

You know Ultama, its a bit strange really the way you keep on misreading the OP. You got it drastically wrong on day 1 and I assumed you had read it after that, but you didn't know there were cartels? Who could influence the game? Cartel captain became Police Captain? Really?

Having trouble accepting this as another silly mistake.

[Ultama]

Liosan, on 11 November 2015 - 09:46 AM, said:

You know Ultama, its a bit strange really the way you keep on misreading the OP. You got it drastically wrong on day 1 and I assumed you had read it after that, but you didn't know there were cartels? Who could influence the game? Cartel captain became Police Captain? Really?

Having trouble accepting this as another silly mistake.

What do you mean good sir? I'm lazy I guess. In the OP I picked up on Fener as the reporter and that the body snatcher has arrived. The rest I took to be flavour text.

The game is essentially town vs scum and I took the SK to be the main scum. I discounted all the rest.