[Anomandaris]

Liosan, on 11 November 2015 - 01:31 AM, said:

Grasp, on 10 November 2015 - 11:44 PM, said:

Not lynching Sil. I'm not sure that the bad cop argument stands. If we have the cops as town and two criminal organizations with and SK to boot, we need enough cops to balance out the blatantly bad. Plus, I now know what Sil is. More than I can sayfor the rest of you.To return the question: Why are you so eager to lynch someoe who is stastically a good chance of being town?

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:51 PM, said:

I'm here and regardless of good cop bad cop I doubt either will be serial killer or recruiter, thoughts on this?Fuck you Silanah for leaving it so late. You nay get your wish after all re no lynch.

Anomandaris, on 11 November 2015 - 12:18 AM, said:

remove vote.vote Karosis.I still agree with you Karosis, but I still think we need this lynch more.

Ok, Karo voted Silanah after the cop thing. Right.

I find Anomandaris interesting. Even after pretty convincing statements from Ultama and Grasp, he still agrees with Karosis? About what?

What convincing statements?

It is still fifty/fifty to me that sil is scum.

[Path-Shaper]

No one died during the night but interesting shit did happen including a shooting. I'm too sick to write a scene. Sorry.


It is Day Two. 30 hours remain

Players remaining: Anomandaris, Denul, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Gait, Grasp, Korlat, Liosan, Omtose, Shadow, Silanah, Tholen, Togg, Ultama

8 votes needed for lynch, 7 votes go to night.



Players not voting: Anomandaris, Denul, Eloth, Emurlahn, Gait, Grasp, Karosis, Korlat, Liosan, Shadow, Tholen, Togg, Ultama
Players in jail: Omtose

[Anomandaris]

No CF?

[Liosan]

Anomandaris, on 11 November 2015 - 01:45 AM, said:

Liosan, on 11 November 2015 - 01:31 AM, said:

Grasp, on 10 November 2015 - 11:44 PM, said:

Not lynching Sil. I'm not sure that the bad cop argument stands. If we have the cops as town and two criminal organizations with and SK to boot, we need enough cops to balance out the blatantly bad. Plus, I now know what Sil is. More than I can sayfor the rest of you.To return the question: Why are you so eager to lynch someoe who is stastically a good chance of being town?

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:51 PM, said:

I'm here and regardless of good cop bad cop I doubt either will be serial killer or recruiter, thoughts on this?Fuck you Silanah for leaving it so late. You nay get your wish after all re no lynch.

Anomandaris, on 11 November 2015 - 12:18 AM, said:

remove vote.vote Karosis.I still agree with you Karosis, but I still think we need this lynch more.

Ok, Karo voted Silanah after the cop thing. Right.

I find Anomandaris interesting. Even after pretty convincing statements from Ultama and Grasp, he still agrees with Karosis? About what?

What convincing statements?

It is still fifty/fifty to me that sil is scum.

If he is a cop and the arrest power practically proves that, its highly unlikely he is the killer, irrespective of the bad cop good cop thing

[Anomandaris]

Liosan, on 11 November 2015 - 02:12 AM, said:

Anomandaris, on 11 November 2015 - 01:45 AM, said:

Liosan, on 11 November 2015 - 01:31 AM, said:

Grasp, on 10 November 2015 - 11:44 PM, said:

Not lynching Sil. I'm not sure that the bad cop argument stands. If we have the cops as town and two criminal organizations with and SK to boot, we need enough cops to balance out the blatantly bad. Plus, I now know what Sil is. More than I can sayfor the rest of you.To return the question: Why are you so eager to lynch someoe who is stastically a good chance of being town?

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:51 PM, said:

I'm here and regardless of good cop bad cop I doubt either will be serial killer or recruiter, thoughts on this?Fuck you Silanah for leaving it so late. You nay get your wish after all re no lynch.

Anomandaris, on 11 November 2015 - 12:18 AM, said:

remove vote.vote Karosis.I still agree with you Karosis, but I still think we need this lynch more.

Ok, Karo voted Silanah after the cop thing. Right.

I find Anomandaris interesting. Even after pretty convincing statements from Ultama and Grasp, he still agrees with Karosis? About what?

What convincing statements?

It is still fifty/fifty to me that sil is scum.

If he is a cop and the arrest power practically proves that, its highly unlikely he is the killer, irrespective of the bad cop good cop thing

Wrong. That arrest power can really fuck us over. And what other powers may he have? Is he working for one of the drug gangs? Dismissing this could bite us in the ass really bad later in game.

[Togg]

Ha! Omtose is still in jail...

[Anomandaris]

Togg, on 11 November 2015 - 02:16 AM, said:

Ha! Omtose is still in jail...

I'm not bailing him out.

[Path-Shaper]

Path-Shaper, on 10 November 2015 - 11:15 PM, said:

New Ability unlocked!

Post Bail <target>

It is a day action and can be used by anyone on any prisoner. It has to be posted in game thread. It can not be used to bail out a person on the same day they were arrested.

It should be noted that a person in jail does not reduce numbers needed for a lynch.

[Anomandaris]

Quote

Budget cuts have been enacted across city departments including the Coroner's office

This game is going to suck if there is no CF's

[Togg]

Well I'm wiped. With no cf or confirmation on whether Silanah is a good cop or bad cop, neither of those trains is telling me much other than that those who voted for Karosis were awfully sure he wasn't on their team,so they felt confident piling on. But it's day 1, and there be noobs about. I'm going to sleep on it and hope that Fener hears a rumor.

[Anomandaris]

I'm out too.....

[Path-Shaper]

The Coroner's Office releases the following information:

Path-Shaper, on 11 November 2015 - 02:24 AM, said:

Your autopsy results:

Karosis was the Salvadoran Cartel Captain and Ansible.

[Liosan]

Well that looks like a nice early effective blow for Town.

[Grasp]

Ha!!!!!!

[Liosan]

I am going to be out for the next few hours.

[Silanah]

same,i need it.

[Emurlahn]

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:14 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 10 November 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

No, it fucking isn't!

Day 1 lynches ONLY BENEFIT SCUM! That is a tried and fucking tested rule!

Really? I'd love to see your source for that rule.
In any case, it shouldn't apply this game, given that it is a faction game with singular VCs as a sauce poured over it, not town vs scum.

Holy shit this thread is filled with fucking idiots....

This is from the Mafia 101 thread, in Tapper's very first post:

Quote

In basic games, new players tend to place too much emphasis on certainty of innocence or guilt and consider minimizing the amount of casualties a town priority. This is generally characterized by an unwillingness to vote someone or considering a no-lynch a better option than the lynch of a town player. This is nowhere more pronounced than on day 1, when people are often voted out for the most ridiculous reasons by veterans and rookies are hesitant to vote or even prefer a no-lynch.

Take some time, learn how to play the fucking game...

And then, let's add the fact that Faction games require the fucking Day 1 lynch even more than town vs scum games, given that no one wants to fucking do anything until we have something to work with to go on a culture hunt.

Like, is it really that hard for you fucking numb nuts to use your fucking brains and actually think about it?

1. Re-read what I wrote. Imagine I ask that the question "Really? I'd love to see your source for that rule" with a raised eyebrow. A bit like this:

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Number of downloads: 0

That goes for Eloth and every other player who thought I was symping/defending Silanah, too.


2. Quoting Tapper at people when Tapper is in the same game might sometimes lead to embarrassing situations when Tapper is CFed, mostly for the one who made the quote.

[Emurlahn]

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 04:45 PM, said:

Silanah, on 10 November 2015 - 04:00 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 03:43 PM, said:

Silanah, on 10 November 2015 - 03:40 PM, said:

Tholen, on 10 November 2015 - 03:11 PM, said:

Silanah, on 10 November 2015 - 02:13 PM, said:

Ultama, on 10 November 2015 - 11:32 AM, said:

Are we going to assume Fener is the Survivor?

The SK is the Body Snatcher.

Does it identify who the recruiters will be?

re read that long drivel thats supposed to be a blog post, near the end it mentions he needs to recruit people for the sake of finding information. While I doubt vengeance is dumb enough to admit that (the quality of the blog posts would have you think otherwise, raywilliamjohnson is funnier than this stuff) it's there. As is highlighting information that'd be useful to scum. We all know who benefits from town role speculation.

what's ambiguous is the amount of scum players around. There's a recruiter at play so its possible we have a low amount of starting scum. As such unless someone makes a colossal fuckup (like in the last two games) there's no reason to lynch d1.

I think we need to start seeing more posts from some of our less active members

What the actual fuck, dude? It NEVER benefits town now to lynch on Day 1! Such a big fucking load of hooey - town can only gain information from lynch trains and reactions to lynch trains. No one is going to react, no one is going to do anything for us to analyze, if we all just sit back and wait for something to happen. The point of fucking Mafia is to lynch, and make opinions based on those lynched.

What is with you people?

d1 lynches are a crapshoot. Analysing lynch trains is an interesting idea.

Still no word on grasp. and we're 8 hours away from days end

The last 2 games have both benefitted from a d1 lynch. Every game ever would and should benefit from one as well. You're basically saying there's no need for us to lynch day 1. For that reason I'm going to

remove vote

Vote silanah

If they are advocating no lynch then they are wanting to win through night actions.

Really? could have sworn that d1 lynch on emularhn gave us dick all in terms of usable information to win that game, (the one two games ago).

As for every game ever benifiting from d1 lynches, i'd disagree. Given that we're playing with more than the usual amount of unknowns (several different VC exist, unknown amount of scum and new abilities) I think it's safe to say we can't make the same assumptions we always do.

The one assumption we can make is town will lose if they do. Not. Lynch.

That lynch of Emurlahn and subsequent fixation of Liosan by more than a couple of players held a lot of clues. Town didn't pick up on them so well but they were there. Hindsight is a bitch but 3 players knew who the killers were and picked up on it. That was all through that day one.

I am still alive afaik.
If you refer to a different game, mention that.

[Emurlahn]

Anomandaris, on 10 November 2015 - 09:09 PM, said:

I'm here and have caught up. RL (work) has me not able to post for long periods, sorry.

I'm with the "must lynch" group of players. Not lynching always loses the game for town. I'm here until timeout so I will hold my vote for now to see how the day plays out.

I did notice one thing, everyone is saying the SK needs eight nites to win. I think it is 6, Didn't the Fener post say they have found one victim all ready?

I agree with this assessment, at the very least as a WCS.
The post for Vengeance was a seperate one by PS after the game had started: Denul sneaked in a first 3 minutes after the clock had started (if it was at the full hour), followed 16 minutes after that by:

Path-Shaper, on 09 November 2015 - 07:19 PM, said:

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Path-Shaper, on 09 November 2015 - 07:14 PM, said:

<br style="font-size: 12px;">A bag containing two hands and a head was found downtown last night.<br style="font-size: 12px;"><br style="font-size: 12px;">The victim was Tiamatha, an alcoholic homeless man, and Vengeance.

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<br style="font-size: 12px;"><br style="font-size: 12px;">Given the fact there's an alt in that post, I would assume 6 nights over 8 nights as WCS, especially in a 15 player game.

[Fener]

[--Video encoding x264 .wlv, streaming-live--]

The now-familiar cluttered room fades into view. Unfortunately so does the cheese. Notepads are scattered across the desk and a pile of disposable cell phones threaten to topple the empty soda cans from position as the highest point. The view has at least returned to level. Fener can be heard off-screen talking to someone.


"So you're sure of the cause of death? A single blunt trauma to the os parietale?"

<a mumbling voice speaks indistinctly>

"Yes okay, I see what you mean. So the blow came as a surprise from behind and was instantly fatal? Could it have been accidental?"

<quiet mutters>

"So certainly unexpected. You say there was CCTV footage that has since vanished?"

<generally affirmative-sounding warbles>

"A group? Really? So he was taken by surprise by a whole lot of people, not an isolated mugging gone wrong?"

<vague discourse>

"Ahh I understand - the group were accosting someone else and he looks to have made a comment about their behaviour as he passed them by upon which they may have taken offence. So the usual verdict then, suicide?"

<strident exhortations>

"So yes he was a member of a nefarious gang but that doesn't mean he should be killed out of hand does it?"

<strident articulations>

"My mistake sorry. Of course he should have been. So how are things going with your wife these days?"

There is the sudden sound of a slamming door

"What's got his panties in a bunch? Oh well, there's enough news there for me to get a post off the ground wi.."

One of the stack of cell phones starts to vibrate. Fener makes a rapid lunge into shot and puts the phone to his ear

"Hello? Hello?"

The phone continues to ring. Fener takes it back away from his ear, looks at the keypad for a moment, finds the answer button and puts it back to his head

"Hello, you're through to Hawaii Fener-O, no news too small"

There begins a conversation of which only Feners voice can be heard

"News for me you say ... for the good of the innocent public .... yes yes I quite understand ... no no fear about that, I'd never even consider such a thing ... naturally I do ... serious opposition? What do you mean by serious ... the FBI made a move? What sort of a .... a FBI-led shooting? No, I can't believe it. Why would they do that ... so the agent shot at someone but no-one has been admitted to either the hospital or the morgue? So there's no body found because they didn't die? Who could survive a shooting, are we talking Kevlar here? ... yes I agree, a very dangerous individual indeed. So let us hope that the agent gets another shot - they'd recognize them again right? ... Oh yes, that is an issue, an internal investigation sounds quite an obstruction. Still they will know he was right right? So it shouldn't last long and then he'll be back on the hunt? ... Ahh politics, I quite understand. It's almost tempting to take things into our own hands isn't it, I mean if he could identify who he shot at then some well meaning vigilantes might happen to stumble upon them ... no no I'm not suggesting the law be taken into our own hands, nothing of the sort ... you're totally getting the wrong end of the stick, I'd never suggest that people ... yes I ... no no Id never ... hello? hello?"

Fener throws the phone at the desk, scattering cans and knocking the lone pizza box from the edge. It lands with a solid thump and a soft splat indicating the box wasn't empty and is now firmly emplaced on the carpet.

"What can I do? Well I have the makings of a brilliant blog post right here, I just need to get them down on screen. Maybe the killing and the shooting are connected? Maybe not though, I can't go drawing connections between them willy-nilly."

"What would be really useful would be if the FBI Agent were to find my number somehow and give me a call. I'm sure that we can arrange for me to put some information into the public domain and await deserved justice."

"Now let me get this post started..."

The scene brightens sharply as a light is switched on. Moments later it cuts to black

[--stream ends--]