[Liosan]

Hood, on 02 November 2015 - 07:18 PM, said:

Magical whispers are wizards. And mumbles in shadows are rogues. Not that hard to deduce.So those things does not go together. Plus it was actually Gait in my alt that day.

Wow actually that is my bad. I forgot about the possession. I assumed only the wizards could silence, so I overlooked the plains message part. Bastards.

Yeah I think if we go forward assuming the heirs know their masters, we should take a look at Gait-train detractors to find the heir. Besides Hood I guess. That whole possession business...

[Olar Ethil]

Liosan, on 02 November 2015 - 08:12 PM, said:

Hood, on 02 November 2015 - 07:18 PM, said:

Magical whispers are wizards. And mumbles in shadows are rogues. Not that hard to deduce.So those things does not go together. Plus it was actually Gait in my alt that day.

Wow actually that is my bad. I forgot about the possession. I assumed only the wizards could silence, so I overlooked the plains message part. Bastards.

Yeah I think if we go forward assuming the heirs know their masters, we should take a look at Gait-train detractors to find the heir. Besides Hood I guess. That whole possession business...

One is Serc. He seemed to be trying to generate interest in Togg, was around all day but only voted Gait briefly then removed. That looks like distancing and no real desire to vote his leader.

[Hood's Path]

Olar Ethil, on 02 November 2015 - 08:25 PM, said:

Liosan, on 02 November 2015 - 08:12 PM, said:

Hood, on 02 November 2015 - 07:18 PM, said:

Magical whispers are wizards. And mumbles in shadows are rogues. Not that hard to deduce.So those things does not go together. Plus it was actually Gait in my alt that day.

Wow actually that is my bad. I forgot about the possession. I assumed only the wizards could silence, so I overlooked the plains message part. Bastards.

Yeah I think if we go forward assuming the heirs know their masters, we should take a look at Gait-train detractors to find the heir. Besides Hood I guess. That whole possession business...

One is Serc. He seemed to be trying to generate interest in Togg, was around all day but only voted Gait briefly then removed. That looks like distancing and no real desire to vote his leader.

well, he definitely caught my eye too
but...idk...it feels like it was kinda 'leap on any prey you can' while trying not to get too far in any way

tho its very possible wizs just let him get lynched. From my spects view it seemed like any def of Gait would pointless and any misdirectioning would be too suspicious, as it was pretty obvious he fucked up. Maybe wizs saw it similarly. He was lynch target since d1 and we even basically lynched him d1.

Overall I dont see this as enough to vote for Serc, atleast not for now. They could very possibly be in my faction and theyre atleast active here.

[Eloth]

Sorry I haven't been around as much today as usual. As usual on Mondays I am really busy at work. I should have more time as the week goes on.

[Olar Ethil]

Hood, on 02 November 2015 - 08:39 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 02 November 2015 - 08:25 PM, said:

Liosan, on 02 November 2015 - 08:12 PM, said:

Hood, on 02 November 2015 - 07:18 PM, said:

Magical whispers are wizards. And mumbles in shadows are rogues. Not that hard to deduce.So those things does not go together. Plus it was actually Gait in my alt that day.

Wow actually that is my bad. I forgot about the possession. I assumed only the wizards could silence, so I overlooked the plains message part. Bastards.

Yeah I think if we go forward assuming the heirs know their masters, we should take a look at Gait-train detractors to find the heir. Besides Hood I guess. That whole possession business...

One is Serc. He seemed to be trying to generate interest in Togg, was around all day but only voted Gait briefly then removed. That looks like distancing and no real desire to vote his leader.

well, he definitely caught my eye too
but...idk...it feels like it was kinda 'leap on any prey you can' while trying not to get too far in any way

tho its very possible wizs just let him get lynched. From my spects view it seemed like any def of Gait would pointless and any misdirectioning would be too suspicious, as it was pretty obvious he fucked up. Maybe wizs saw it similarly. He was lynch target since d1 and we even basically lynched him d1.

Overall I dont see this as enough to vote for Serc, atleast not for now. They could very possibly be in my faction and theyre atleast active here.

Based on behavior I could see either of you as wizards. I haven't seen any "proof" that you were possessed.

Since he was online but didn't end up voting Gait, I think he is a good place to start.

vote Serc

I'd like to see how others respond.

[Serc]

Works been a bit of a bitch for me today so I've not had much time. Just read that post there Olar, I think you'll find we had about 2 hours left in the day and I would've voted Gait in the end. I only removed to find out more information and it was quite an interesting last few hours. The lynch and day was cut short though so required votes were lowered.

After a quick read up there, I'm thinking to myself that Liosan is acting completely different to the whole of last week. Not had a look to see if his style has changed

Any reason for that Lio

[Serc]

Path-Shaper, on 02 November 2015 - 03:50 PM, said:

You see sparks shoot through the night. When you squint your eyes just right, you can tell that they are coming from Olar Ethil's fingers.

Ha, you're pretending to go after wizards when you're shooting sparks. This looks like a reveal ability of some sort.

If the wizards new their leader then they'd be more likely not defend him or deflect from him on thread as it is a faction game and they'd not wany to be linked with him. They'd either be pro lynch Gait or abstain from the thread and try and get away from not voting. So the people that weren't around towards day end without a vote down is also a good place to look.

[Olar Ethil]

Serc, on 02 November 2015 - 09:05 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 02 November 2015 - 03:50 PM, said:

You see sparks shoot through the night. When you squint your eyes just right, you can tell that they are coming from Olar Ethil's fingers.

Ha, you're pretending to go after wizards when you're shooting sparks. This looks like a reveal ability of some sort.

If the wizards new their leader then they'd be more likely not defend him or deflect from him on thread as it is a faction game and they'd not wany to be linked with him. They'd either be pro lynch Gait or abstain from the thread and try and get away from not voting. So the people that weren't around towards day end without a vote down is also a good place to look.

Obviously a distraction from the Wizard team. I have no magical abilities and I was on both AF and Gaits lynch trains.

[Olar Ethil]

Serc, on 02 November 2015 - 08:59 PM, said:

Works been a bit of a bitch for me today so I've not had much time. Just read that post there Olar, I think you'll find we had about 2 hours left in the day and I would've voted Gait in the end. I only removed to find out more information and it was quite an interesting last few hours. The lynch and day was cut short though so required votes were lowered.

After a quick read up there, I'm thinking to myself that Liosan is acting completely different to the whole of last week. Not had a look to see if his style has changed

Any reason for that Lio

If he is acting different please share posts?

[Hood's Path]

Olar Ethil, on 02 November 2015 - 08:48 PM, said:

I haven't seen any "proof" that you were possessed.

Well, I dont know what proof would you like.

Writing stlye is visibly different, but I realise I could have played that.
Only other 'proof' I have is nobody else claimed being possessed that day

[Hood's Path]

Olar Ethil, on 28 October 2015 - 03:18 PM, said:

Bendal Home, on 28 October 2015 - 03:13 PM, said:

If day is not over, can we try for a second lynch?

Interesting thought. It has been done before.

vote Gait

This is enough of proof that Olar is not wizard for me

[Olar Ethil]

Hood, on 02 November 2015 - 09:10 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 02 November 2015 - 08:48 PM, said:

I haven't seen any "proof" that you were possessed.

Well, I dont know what proof would you like.

Writing stlye is visibly different, but I realise I could have played that.
Only other 'proof' I have is nobody else claimed being possessed that day

I'll try and do a reread tonight.

[Liosan]

Olar Ethil, on 02 November 2015 - 09:08 PM, said:

Serc, on 02 November 2015 - 08:59 PM, said:

Works been a bit of a bitch for me today so I've not had much time. Just read that post there Olar, I think you'll find we had about 2 hours left in the day and I would've voted Gait in the end. I only removed to find out more information and it was quite an interesting last few hours. The lynch and day was cut short though so required votes were lowered. After a quick read up there, I'm thinking to myself that Liosan is acting completely different to the whole of last week. Not had a look to see if his style has changedAny reason for that Lio

If he is acting different please share posts?

I don't think I'm acting any different. Maybe a bit eager to play the game as I'll be way too busy participate as much as I'd like to later this week.

I also agree with Hood that Olar is not a wizard. It's obviously an attempt to frame Olar while we discuss the possible new wizard leader.

edit: added word 'be'

This post has been edited by Liosan: 02 November 2015 - 09:57 PM

[Denul]

Hey I'm traveling all day
Got a few more hours to go

[Olar Ethil]

Don't everybody start talking at once.

[Olar Ethil]

Even the Shaper doesn't post.

Denul doesn't count with his fly-by "I'm traveling" post.

We are ALL traveling through this thing called life!

[Mockra]

Very busy day yesterday. Should have more time to post and look over things today.

[Serc]

Togg, on 30 October 2015 - 04:18 PM, said:

Shadow - Elemental
Tholen - Elemental
Bek Okhan - Elemental
Aparal Forge - Elite Wizard
Gait - Wizard Leader


8 votes for a lynch, 8 votes to go to night.
8 votes Bek Okhan: Liosan, Hood's Path, Aparal Forge, Denul, Denesmet, Serc, Eloth, Bendal Home

8 votes for a lynch, 8 votes to go to night.
8 votes Aparal Forge: Eloth, Bendal Home, Hood's Path, Olar Ethil, Ryllandaras, Serc, Liosan, Gait


8 votes for a lynch, 7 votes to go to night.
6 votes Gait: Togg, Denul, Olar Ethil, Mockra, Bendal Home, Eloth



Aparal Forge, Bek Okhan, Bendal Home, Denesmet, Denul, Eloth, Gait, Hood’s Path, Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Liosan, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Ryllandaras, Serc, Shadow, Tholen, Togg, Ultama

Remaining alts that may be the final extra alt are:
Kadagar Fant, Kessobahn, Ultama

I'm going to knowingly ignore the 2 votes less than lynch needed because no way in hell does my vote count for 3, instead there must be another mechanic at play.

Just looking at this post from Togg, am I correct in saying that Ultama and Kessobahn have not been on any lynch train so far?

[Serc]

I'm going to

vote Kessobahn

9 posts for the whole game and no votes makes him deadwood.

At least Ultama is contributing.

[Mockra]

Having read through the previous game day, if we're mage-hunting, this post from Kessobahn is the most telling thing for me as another possible mage, rubbishing both Togg's arguments and the md5 codes proposition.

Kessobahn, on 29 October 2015 - 08:36 AM, said:

Togg, on 28 October 2015 - 08:55 PM, said:

Serc, on 28 October 2015 - 08:48 PM, said:

Vote Togg

Something is definitely off here.

Unfortunately for you, it's HP talking out his ass. I'd suggest waiting on counter-claims to the Tholen kill and hearing back from Gait before you get stuck in a rut.

Waiting for a counter-claim is pointless. Did you get a specific message that YOU killed Tholen? Did you get confirmation you actually hit Tholen? Do you know how many hit points Tholen had? If none of the above, then any other player can "claim" the same without much repercussion. With the way you're playing right now, the Wizards quite probably fear you enough to start targeting you with everything they have. Better not to be too closely associated with you, hmm?

As for AF: I don't believe they were Dominated. I do believe AF's slip was involuntarily and the info in there was good enough to lynch him.
My guess is, there's an ability that makes PS put the last PM from a given player on thread from that players' alt.

With regard to these MD5 codes: as a mod, I know we have no issue with the wonkier game mechanics that players all love and expect in TMDI-high games. Yet when such mechanics do show up, we as players try and eliminate them as thoroughly as we can including relying on third party stuff, potentially unbalancing whatever balance of power exists on paper. It's a weird paradox between what we want and what we do. My stance on the issue is that I'd like to satisfy the want and bring what we do in line with this, so that we can keep roles like these in games (see also: Faceless Man) even though being hit by it is a major pain.

With regard to possession, it is tricky enough to correctly impersonate someone well enough to fool the thread anyway, so most of the time this will be an additional vote/elaborate find at best.