[Demelain]

Monok Ochem, on 16 October 2015 - 11:58 AM, said:

I was always going to reveal today as I think it's more than likely D-day. But I wanted to wait till everyone gave out their opinions. Then I wanted to see what would happen if I pushed away from an Aparal lynch, and how people would react to that.


So anyways, night 1 I healed Anomandaris (chose between Ano and Fanderay, d'oh); night 2 I healed Demelain (chose between Dem and Ano, d'oh!); night 3 I healed Mockra (hooray!). I healed Mockra because it became obvious on that day that Mockra was Tapper, and Tapper is always a scum target if he isn't scum himself (it's the pretty way in which he speaks), and if I can alt him - and I'm terrible at alting - then so could anyone else. Night 4 I healed Karosis.

Okay, I read your statement again. The from someone part in "hoping for something like that from someone" got me. I got a bit of a rush making a case at this point of the game. I don't think I can alt people yet.

[Monok Ochem]

I don't have a code or anything, 1) because anyone can put them in, and 2) because I frankly didn't expect to survive this long having just played as if I was a regular RI.

I did tend to say things like the below towards day end, trying to influence scum into considering elsewhere if they were looking to kill of the healer:

Monok Ochem, on 06 October 2015 - 11:24 PM, said:

If we're agreed I will hammer. If they're lying, please for the love of everything no one counter reveal either.

Monok Ochem, on 14 October 2015 - 11:54 PM, said:

Demelain, on 14 October 2015 - 11:52 PM, said:

Liosan, on 14 October 2015 - 11:48 PM, said:

oh fuck me

mockra hasn't posted today

we are going to lose two players to modkill as soon as day times out/lynch happens

Maybe the lynch not happening is not such a bad thing then after all.

Now, we're with 8. Assuming 6T : 2S.

WCS is two modkills are Town, Lynch is town + NK is town

6-4 = 2

2:2...

Let's hope that 1) the healer gets it right and 2) that one of them is not the healer.

Sigh.

I've also chosen to reveal with little to no pressure, when there's clearly an easy lynch on the table. Even if we're saying Aparal's my partner, why would I do anything to let myself be linked to them? Why not just participate in their lynch, rather than sticking my neck out so much?

[Monok Ochem]

Now I'm going back to my reread. I'm halfway through and I have to say, town or scum, Aparal's played terribly (though I'm hardly one to talk)

[Demelain]

Monok Ochem, on 16 October 2015 - 12:05 PM, said:

I've also chosen to reveal with little to no pressure, when there's clearly an easy lynch on the table. Even if we're saying Aparal's my partner, why would I do anything to let myself be linked to them? Why not just participate in their lynch, rather than sticking my neck out so much?

Okay, I think you're the healer, although I've never been in a game with a serious reveal before. I certainly don't see anyone objecting.

For the reason I stated, you said time and time again you were willing to vote them, but when there was a weak response of "Don't vote me, trust me!" you just moved on like you did earlier. You knew you weren't the prime defender, as Ryll's defense is much more obvious (so he would be the one sticking out his neck) and the attackers were more insistent also, so distancing cases could easier be made against them.

[Monok Ochem]

Demelain, on 16 October 2015 - 12:11 PM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 16 October 2015 - 12:05 PM, said:

I've also chosen to reveal with little to no pressure, when there's clearly an easy lynch on the table. Even if we're saying Aparal's my partner, why would I do anything to let myself be linked to them? Why not just participate in their lynch, rather than sticking my neck out so much?

Okay, I think you're the healer, although I've never been in a game with a serious reveal before. I certainly don't see anyone objecting.

For the reason I stated, you said time and time again you were willing to vote them, but when there was a weak response of "Don't vote me, trust me!" you just moved on like you did earlier. You knew you weren't the prime defender, as Ryll's defense is much more obvious (so he would be the one sticking out his neck) and the attackers were more insistent also, so distancing cases could easier be made against them.

I was definitely more willing to vote Aparal yesterday (as in game day, not literally yesterday) than this day. That's because I've had more time to read over and think than I did previously. I could just be horribly second-guessing myself, true. It's very annoying that we don't have Omtose's CF.

With regards to Ryll, the same I said for myself would apply to them too. Why would they stick their neck out so blatantly for their partner, if we're saying they and Aparal are partnered?

[Demelain]

Monok Ochem, on 16 October 2015 - 12:15 PM, said:

With regards to Ryll, the same I said for myself would apply to them too. Why would they stick their neck out so blatantly for their partner, if we're saying they and Aparal are partnered?

Truth is, I think your cases are dissimilar. The thing that caught my eye was that you seemed to be saying "I don't like AF, he plays scummy", so it looked like you were after him, but then suddenly changed direction accepting "Trust me, please, I'm not scum" for an answer, without actually stating that you were accepting it for an answer ("If I were to believe you"). Basically, you could always still say you were still suspicious of him, but I thought it strange for someone who was displaying their mistrust to suddenly accept a "Please trust me, I played weak, but I'm not scum" answer that didn't really answer anything. Ryll was quite open in his defence all along.

[Demelain]

Where's everyone? Only what, three hours to go?

[Karosis]

Whats our time?

[Demelain]

Path-Shaper, on 15 October 2015 - 03:27 AM, said:

It is now Day 5. 36 hours remaining.

There are 5 players left alive: Aparal Forge, Demelain, Karosis, Monok Ochem, Ryllandaras

Three hours based on the timestamps.

[Karosis]

Okay, AF STILL didn't answer any of my concerns about his play.

[Ryllandaras]

I've just got home, give me a few minutes to get caught up.

[Monok Ochem]

Dem, reading through thus far, I have to say, if you're town, you've played a good town game. If you're scum, you've played a very good scum game (as you don't seem like scum).


I suck at final decisions.

[Ryllandaras]

Monok Ochem, on 16 October 2015 - 11:31 AM, said:

I was hoping for something like that from someone, Dem. See, there's a great reason why I'm not Aparal's partner. I'm the healer.

Woah, hold your fucking horses!

Ah Monok you sneaky little shit. Throwing this out there with a few hours left on the clock.

Hmm, you could be or this is a game winning play. Going to finish reading but this is major!

[Karosis]

Why did you reveal so late? What exactly is your plan because we cant exactly prove it. Could be trying to save yourself if you are scum although you weren't really in the crosshairs.

[Ryllandaras]

Monok Ochem, on 16 October 2015 - 12:05 PM, said:

I don't have a code or anything, 1) because anyone can put them in, and 2) because I frankly didn't expect to survive this long having just played as if I was a regular RI.

I did tend to say things like the below towards day end, trying to influence scum into considering elsewhere if they were looking to kill of the healer:

Monok Ochem, on 06 October 2015 - 11:24 PM, said:

If we're agreed I will hammer. If they're lying, please for the love of everything no one counter reveal either.

Monok Ochem, on 14 October 2015 - 11:54 PM, said:

Demelain, on 14 October 2015 - 11:52 PM, said:

Liosan, on 14 October 2015 - 11:48 PM, said:

oh fuck me

mockra hasn't posted today

we are going to lose two players to modkill as soon as day times out/lynch happens

Maybe the lynch not happening is not such a bad thing then after all.

Now, we're with 8. Assuming 6T : 2S.

WCS is two modkills are Town, Lynch is town + NK is town

6-4 = 2

2:2...

Let's hope that 1) the healer gets it right and 2) that one of them is not the healer.

Sigh.

I've also chosen to reveal with little to no pressure, when there's clearly an easy lynch on the table. Even if we're saying Aparal's my partner, why would I do anything to let myself be linked to them? Why not just participate in their lynch, rather than sticking my neck out so much?

Shit fucking fuck. No code, no verification of success. At least your not trying to pi someone else on thread there is that.


You revealed with a few hours to go after Demelain was accusing you of being Aparal's partner. So yes, there was a little pressure.

[Karosis]

Vote Aparal Forge

I don't buy what he is saying. He even admits that his play looks scummy but says he's town nonetheless. If it looks and smells like scum, it probably is.

Unless he comes out and says something fucken enlightening I will take my chances there again.

[Demelain]

Vote Aparal Forge

[Ryllandaras]

Vote Aparal Forge

[Monok Ochem]

Sigh.

[Demelain]

Monok Ochem, on 16 October 2015 - 12:46 PM, said:

Sigh.

Why?

I agree with Karosis.