I will elaborate, for the sake of clarity.
Nicodimas, on 19 March 2018 - 03:57 AM, said:
I don't watch mainstream news .. I haven't in over a decade.
Whatever, this part is irrelevant to my point. But what is the mainstream news? Wouldn't it be fair to include Fox News in the mainstream given that they are, apparently, the channel with the most viewers?
Nicodimas, on 19 March 2018 - 03:57 AM, said:
I have never watched infowars.
Good for you, that man is nuts!
Nicodimas, on 19 March 2018 - 03:57 AM, said:
I form all of opinions on how people view freedom. You support it or you don't understand it. Lots of statists here at times and I get their belief stucture.. there just wrong.
Here's where we get to the meat of the matter. The bolded part! I'm sorry, but it's fucking idiotic. Claiming that the reason people support don't something other people consider freedom is because they just don't understand it is stupid. Worse, it's insulting.
I understand that some people feel they should have a religious right to discriminate, because if they don't, it's an infringement on their freedom to practice their religion as they see fit. I understand that this is what they believe, genuinely so. I understand it, and I also know it's stupid.
Nico, I understand that you like your freedom to own guns. I understand it. I know where you're coming from. Guns are fun, moreover, they are for many people an essential tool, a necessary tool. My father owned a double-barreled shotgun. He was a hunter and needed that weapon to pursue that part of his life. Here's the kicker though. Once he stopped hunting, once he realized he didn't need it anymore, he sold it. He registered the sale with the police, informing them that he was no longer a gun owner. That he had sold his weapon to [insert buyer here who also registered his purchase of the weapon], and that there was no longer a reason for him to renew his license. And guess what? Nary a right was infringed. It was utterly painless for him and the buyer.
So you can understand something and still not agree with it. You can understand that someone calls something a freedom and why they think so, and still disagree.
I should mention that I had decided against "chastising" Nico for his seeming unwillingness to engage with the opposite side of the aisle, but...
Nicodimas, on 19 March 2018 - 03:57 AM, said:
Many here have subscribed that intelligence and their viewpoint and morality are actually important cause they have you know Facebook, social media and forums.. all these venues that make them feel all important inside and stuff.
They are .. wrong. Reality will show the truth.
I find it funny in the modern age.
Britain feels the need to talk shit to Russia. Russia the more powerful nation would Rip.. it's face off. This is the problem with the left .. they just don't understand and forgot why they need to work with their counterparts.
Some places still have a fight in it. That what the gun debate is about .. dangerous freedoms.. the ability to cognitively remember how to protect yourself.
Some statists here will only rely on there defenders though to protect them. They forget at their peril. Self defence comes down to a individual level .. once you forget that .. and send it to a state level .. a small country talks shit to a big country at its peril. It's strange cause the anti freedom crowd always misses that truth.
It is only a few sentences further down where he accuses the left of doing that exact thing, and then throws in a bit victim blaming as well.
I'm sorry if this comes off as attacking Nico personally. Like I mentioned in my previous post, that isn't my intent. You can be smart and still say stupid things. And what Nico has said here, is unbelievably stupid.
Edit:
some stuff needed extra clarity
This post has been edited by Primateus: 19 March 2018 - 11:24 AM