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How does one pronounce "Ganoes"? Title shamelessly stolen from Qlberts.

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Posted 13 July 2015 - 04:05 PM

I didn't dwell on it much when reading through Gardens, and I eventually ended up thinking of it as 'gan-ooze' but that's probably wrong and I would like to pronounce it the correct (as expressed by Erikson or someone with more knowledge than I) way.

I've noticed people tend to refer to him as 'Paran' and his sisters by their first names, nevertheless I would like to hear people's thoughts.
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Posted 13 July 2015 - 04:23 PM

In the Finnish way. Pronounce everything as it's written. No matter the name you can ALWAYS pronounce it without problems. Ganoes would be (I think) like this: Gu(n)no(table)es(pecially)
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Posted 13 July 2015 - 06:03 PM

So why Gu(n) and not Gan? You know, as it's written?

I always read it as Gann-no-ez.

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Posted 13 July 2015 - 06:26 PM

View PostTraveller, on 13 July 2015 - 06:03 PM, said:

So why Gu(n) and not Gan? You know, as it's written?

I always read it as Gann-no-ez.


Gan: Hard G+ an, like in the old god Pan, or pan-am games,
Noes: no +pluralisation

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Posted 13 July 2015 - 07:05 PM

View PostTraveller, on 13 July 2015 - 06:03 PM, said:

So why Gu(n) and not Gan? You know, as it's written?

I always read it as Gann-no-ez.


AFAIK, "gun" is pronounced as "gan", that's why. You English people have a tendency to pronounce different words in different ways even if they are written the same way. That's what makes it hard to tell you how stuff is pronounced in Finnish. For example, "queue". In Finnish a term like "silent letter" doesn't exist, as there are no silent letters in Finnish. In Finnish it wouldn't be as pronounced as "q", as it would be pronounced as it's written, which means it would be pronounced as "queue".
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Posted 13 July 2015 - 07:19 PM

I always pronounced it as rhyming with canoes.
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Posted 13 July 2015 - 08:24 PM

Lately, just for fun, I've been thinking of the Parans as Italians and I pronounce it Jan-o-eez, alongside Fel-ih-seen(-i) and Tah-vor-ay. Also I picture them all as spicy meatballs with spaghetti hair.
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Posted 14 July 2015 - 11:07 AM

View PostTraveller, on 13 July 2015 - 06:03 PM, said:

I always read it as Gann-no-ez.
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Posted 14 July 2015 - 12:25 PM

I like Worry's idea! :ermm:
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Posted 14 July 2015 - 12:28 PM

I say gah-nose. But thinking about it, I might try the portuguese pronounciation for the whole family, as I'm reminded of Averroes. And I like portuguese.
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Posted 14 July 2015 - 02:24 PM

I remembered Erikson answering some questions on Reddit and one of them was about how he goes about choosing his names. His answer:

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Names need to roll nicely, that's all. Inverting or altering the simpler syllable count of one/two also helps (Anomander Rake = 4/1, for example)


That being said, I am going to go with the pronunciation I imagined as first read: Gun-ose Puh-rahn. I can't give any linguistic reason for why I imagined it that way other than it just sounded the best in my head. I know other ways might sound better to other people but perhaps that was his intention anyhow.

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Posted 14 July 2015 - 04:58 PM

View PostFredwin, on 14 July 2015 - 02:24 PM, said:

I remembered Erikson answering some questions on Reddit and one of them was about how he goes about choosing his names. His answer:

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Names need to roll nicely, that's all. Inverting or altering the simpler syllable count of one/two also helps (Anomander Rake = 4/1, for example)


That being said, I am going to go with the pronunciation I imagined as first read: Gun-ose Puh-rahn. I can't give any linguistic reason for why I imagined it that way other than it just sounded the best in my head. I know other ways might sound better to other people but perhaps that was his intention anyhow.


Yeah. I don't think it really matters how you pronounce names as long as people know who you're talking about. My comment about pronouncing them in Finnish style was partly a joke, as, while it makes pronouncing any name really easy, it also often makes them sound quite different from what it's meant to sound like. Probably still recognizable though.
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Posted 16 July 2015 - 02:26 PM

I've always said it as 'Gan-knows'. Rhymes with Man(il)ows.
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Posted 15 December 2015 - 04:58 PM

it's pronounced the audiobook way :)
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Posted 16 December 2015 - 11:49 AM

My choice was Gun-Os (the o a little bit longer like oohs) :)
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Posted 16 December 2015 - 03:23 PM

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 07:34 PM

Nah.
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Posted 30 March 2016 - 07:36 PM

Rhymes with "man knows heron".
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Posted 24 September 2016 - 07:05 AM

View PostMaark Abbott, on 16 July 2015 - 02:26 PM, said:

I've always said it as 'Gan-knows'. Rhymes with Man(il)ows.


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Posted 08 October 2016 - 03:36 PM

View PostTraveller, on 13 July 2015 - 06:03 PM, said:

So why Gu(n) and not Gan? You know, as it's written?

I always read it as Gann-no-ez.




I pronounce it similarly. Just plain and simple: "Gannuz"
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