[Coco with marshmallows]

bumpedy bump bump as the pilot aired last week.

thoughts/opinions?

I liked it. And the guy playing Savage, though barely appearing here, has a nice air of menace (or he did in his Flash episodes at least)

[Serenity]

I thought it was okay. I was concerned that it would have too many characters competing for screen time and that definitely felt the case, but hopefully it will settle down after a few eps. It was great fun watching Wentworth Miller and Dominic Purcell chew the scenery again.

[QuickTidal]

Serenity, on 26 January 2016 - 12:17 PM, said:

I thought it was okay. I was concerned that it would have too many characters competing for screen time and that definitely felt the case, but hopefully it will settle down after a few eps. It was great fun watching Wentworth Miller and Dominic Purcell chew the scenery again.

Indeed, I agree and I think that with 8 main characters, that was always going to be the case. It needs time to settle into a groove and be okay with letting some characters feature more prominently in every other ep, and then switch it up.

[Coco with marshmallows]

QuickTidal, on 26 January 2016 - 02:26 PM, said:

Serenity, on 26 January 2016 - 12:17 PM, said:

I thought it was okay. I was concerned that it would have too many characters competing for screen time and that definitely felt the case, but hopefully it will settle down after a few eps. It was great fun watching Wentworth Miller and Dominic Purcell chew the scenery again.

Indeed, I agree and I think that with 8 main characters, that was always going to be the case. It needs time to settle into a groove and be okay with letting some characters feature more prominently in every other ep, and then switch it up.

Indeed. or do similar to what they did in the pilot - have smaller groups go off interacting with one another (canary/cold/heatwave looks interesting)

[QuickTidal]

Coco with marshmallows, on 26 January 2016 - 08:53 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 26 January 2016 - 02:26 PM, said:

Serenity, on 26 January 2016 - 12:17 PM, said:

I thought it was okay. I was concerned that it would have too many characters competing for screen time and that definitely felt the case, but hopefully it will settle down after a few eps. It was great fun watching Wentworth Miller and Dominic Purcell chew the scenery again.

Indeed, I agree and I think that with 8 main characters, that was always going to be the case. It needs time to settle into a groove and be okay with letting some characters feature more prominently in every other ep, and then switch it up.

Indeed. or do similar to what they did in the pilot - have smaller groups go off interacting with one another (canary/cold/heatwave looks interesting)

Yup. In fact I feel like I could watch/listen to Cold and Canary banter all episode and be happy.

[D'rek]

I don't feel like Vandal is intimidating at all or has any of the "gravitas" that an immortal magic psychopath timelord villain should, especially in the future and present when his facial hair is too stylized and he's got them weird faux-military-uniforms. The egyptian priest look was much better on him.

I like the team, though, the multiple divisions of it into pairs helps with the sharing screentime, I think, and gives them a good variety of inter-character dynamics right from the get go.

I'm glad they went with the

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...none of them are actually "legends" angle. Gives them an easy thing to aspire to, makes the timey-wimey stuff much less worrisome, and frankly I prefer a team-up of the "B team" than an A-class Justice League.

That being said, with such a big team they really need to make the antagonists worthy of being fought by 9 people simultaneously. It was pretty silly seeing the whole team shooting six kinds of projectile attacks at Chronos and all constantly missing. Would've been a lot better if Chronos simply had an energy shield or something like that which they needed to overcome (while dodging his fire) before they could knock him down, instead.

[Coco with marshmallows]

well.

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did NOT see a death coming so quickly.
Interesting to see how it will play out given time travel, etc.

[Tsundoku]

Just watched first 2 episodes. Not great.

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Hipster Rory in another melodramatic overacted time travel show? Too teen-angsty for me. Hawkman and Hawkwoman were just ... meh (and wtf is up with her mouth? It was like watching Jennifer Garner being overwhelmed by her own lips). Vandal Savage just looks like some greasy eastern European drug dealer. White canary was kinda OK. The only people worth watching were Cold and his pyro mate.

I don't watch Arrow (an old allergy to brooding pretty-people melodrama and angst which also prevents me watching such great storytelling such as Vampire Diarrhoea Diaries and Twishite), and haven't started season 2 of Flash, but since when was there a black dude in Firestorm? What happened to old mate Flash science-chick's boyfriend?

A time baddie named Chronos? Really?

And why is it that all these people with super tech, laser-targeting, robotics etc still can't hit the broad side of a fucking barn with a bunch of missiles? Hitting a moving target while you yourself are also in motion isn't easy, but it's not as hard as those twits make it out to be.

[Primateus]

Couldn't even finish 3rd episode...

[D'rek]

Ep. 3:

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So they defeated Vandal Savage and his cronies, but instead of detaining him, dragging him back to the ship and letting Kendra kill him once and for all, Rip stabs him in the neck so that he'll die, be reborn and they have to do this all over again?!

[QuickTidal]

D, on 10 February 2016 - 04:50 PM, said:

Ep. 3:

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So they defeated Vandal Savage and his cronies, but instead of detaining him, dragging him back to the ship and letting Kendra kill him once and for all, Rip stabs him in the neck so that he'll die, be reborn and they have to do this all over again?!

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You gotta understand that Rip is acting off anger and impulse. He's not shown himself to be the most forward thinking guy. He gets a chance to take a puck at the guy who killed his parents...he's taking that shot.

I have a feeling that Savage will be done at the end of S1, and the Legends will have to dela with other time-shenanigans. But yeah, they can't do that at episode 3.

[D'rek]

QuickTidal, on 10 February 2016 - 05:42 PM, said:

D, on 10 February 2016 - 04:50 PM, said:

Ep. 3:

Spoiler

So they defeated Vandal Savage and his cronies, but instead of detaining him, dragging him back to the ship and letting Kendra kill him once and for all, Rip stabs him in the neck so that he'll die, be reborn and they have to do this all over again?!

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You gotta understand that Rip is acting off anger and impulse. He's not shown himself to be the most forward thinking guy. He gets a chance to take a puck at the guy who killed his parents...he's taking that shot.

I have a feeling that Savage will be done at the end of S1, and the Legends will have to dela with other time-shenanigans. But yeah, they can't do that at episode 3.

I guess, but we already saw him do that

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in his first impulsive attack on Savage in ancient Egypt. If he wants revenge sooooo bad, doing it properly seems to me like it should be enough to overcome his in-the-moment bloodlust.

Oh well, I'll roll with it.

[Coco with marshmallows]

Soooo......

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they appear to be pruning the cast list somewhat, based on the end of the last episode.

Mick and hawkman now kaput.

Surprising

[Blend]

Coco with marshmallows, on 05 March 2016 - 12:34 PM, said:

Soooo......

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they appear to be pruning the cast list somewhat, based on the end of the last episode.

Mick and hawkman now kaput.

Surprising

My personaly theory is...

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that Mick won't actually be dead, that he'll somehow end up teaming up with Vandal Savage and the team will run into him again sometime in the future.

Aside from that, my main qualm about last episode was...

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Time Pirates? Really? Like, REALLY? And then, ONE WHOLE EPISODE after Kendra says she doesn't wanna date because of what's going on with her, she's all GUSHY LOVEY WOVEY about Palmer... This is show is so inconsistent.

[QuickTidal]

Brand new interview with the creators confirms what I previously assumed. Vandal Savage is only the big bad of Season 1. Woot woot!

I also hear tell that Terry (Batman Beyond) might show up?!?

Anyways, still enjoying the show...even if it's taken it most of the first season to find its feet.

[QuickTidal]

And the finale secret (beloved) character has been revealed.

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Original Green Lantern Alan Scott.

Clever DC. Very clever!

That excites me a a lot really. Having a Green Lantern on a tv show? Wow!

EDIT: Take with grain of salt as it was posted today...and it IS April Fools.

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 01 April 2016 - 02:07 PM

[QuickTidal]

Last night's off-night episode was pretty damned fun! Old West. Jonah Hex. Just a great setting for these people to have a good time in.

Some developments with regards to Kendra and Ray that may not bode well for Ray in the future. Which would be sad, I like his character.

I continue to think the MAIN reason to watch this show are for Snart (Wentworth Miller) and Sara (Caity Loitz)....as they literally nail every single scene them are in, be it action or dialogue. I would watch a show that JUST featured them going around kicking ass.

I like it more and more each week. I think the Savage storline and how it ties to Rip keeps them WAY too tethered to the one goal, and it suffers a bit as a result of that insular storytelling need. But luckily we are getting great character work from everyone.

[Binder of Demons]

I find that the two lads from Prison Break both overact a bit too much for my liking, but they have improved dramatically in that regard. Especially Mick Rory (I think that's his name in it?) since they gave him that little IQ boost. He might still be an angry pyromaniac, but at least he's not a one note thicko anymore, like he was for the first half of the season.
Snart can be great when he's underplaying it as well. It's just that he lapses into this weird drawling inflection as he delivers his lines every now and then which really irritates me.
Canary's been great since she zen'd out a bit as well.
Hawkgirl is ok, just kinda stuck with the storylines they've given her. Not the actresses fault.
The Prof is pretty good generally. The other half of Firestorm, has been let down by poor storylines too i feel.
Ray Palmer is the most frustrating one really since they always have him being so naive, and frankly stupid at times.


I agree that the Vandal Savage storyline has been a bit limiting, but I thought I saw somewhere that he may only be the villain for one season, and that they'd be having other threats for any other potential seasons to come. Which would be great. So hopefully Hawkgirl can find her bracelet, melt it down into a garotte and take care of Savage in a season finale. Simple

And there was also talk before that the cast for Legends isn't set for the long term, so that means they could easily kill off a few by the end of season 1, and bring in new blood for season 2.

I still watch the show every week, but it's by no means a must watch (and yet with some small tweaks it probably could be). Fingers crossed that they go nuts for the remaining few episodes of this season.

[QuickTidal]

I think I liked this ep more than the last few solely because it allowed Rip to be the focus, and both Sara and Rory were given a chance to shine as well.

[Binder of Demons]

The episode with "The Pilgrim" was pretty good. Only 4 episodes left now, and it'll be interesting to see if they really raise the bar for the last few. Since every mention I've seen of Legends suggests there will be new characters introduced for next season, there is a great chance that they will actually kill off some of the team. Which means there can be actual peril.