[Lost Marine]

Tiste Simeon, on 24 March 2015 - 04:24 PM, said:

Apt, on 24 March 2015 - 04:18 PM, said:

Slow zombies would never be able to win against a squad of well trained soldiers.

Budget cuts/the economy etc. Soldiers aren't as well trained any more...

We've been at war for almost two decades now though. There's plenty of experienced veterans hanging around both in and out of the military.

As far as my scenerio, I work in the woods outside a small town so I probably wouldn't even know until I headed home from work.

Luckily, being a forester I have both guns and axes in my truck so that side is handled.

On the bad side, my home is actually on the outskirts of the biggest city in the area and my son is there. The plan would be to get home and grab my son (no matter the cost on that one I'm not losing him) and whatever supplies I could and then head to the boonies by the back roads.

Going to the coast seems like a bad idea, the population density is much higher there, the majority of the boats would be wrecked, stolen, or adrift. Everybody seems to make that their plan so you'd have a ton of competition.

I think instead I'd head to the river and find a nice stilt house. Get up there and knock the stairs down and use a ladder or rope for access.

Going nomadic with a cranky 1 yr old seems like a bad idea.

[Stormcat]

Dead. I would not make it. I work from home but I live in a pretty big city on the coast, plus I have a big family and I would be trying to save everyone. Might just be better to turn on the gas stove and have one last group hug.

[Aptorian]

Ukjent, on 24 March 2015 - 06:56 PM, said:

A zombie apocalypse will be a renaissance for the halberd. There isn't a zombie that can withstand 2.5 meter long axe swing.

Better solution, one or two people with halberd'ish spikes that pierce and hold the zombie pinned while another dispatches the zombie with blows to the head.

[Lost Marine]

Apt, on 24 March 2015 - 08:25 PM, said:

Ukjent, on 24 March 2015 - 06:56 PM, said:

A zombie apocalypse will be a renaissance for the halberd. There isn't a zombie that can withstand 2.5 meter long axe swing.

Better solution, one or two people with halberd'ish spikes that pierce and hold the zombie pinned while another dispatches the zombie with blows to the head.

Zombie bullfights? That would do great on pay per view.

[melonhead]

Since im in NZ, our military is quite small, so it might be feasible that they get overwhelmed, just by sheer numbers.
If I was at uni in Hamilton when it all went down, my survival chances go way down. its about 5km from uni to my house, 5km straight through the centre of town. so that option is out. Id say i would just head straight to the roof of one of the buildings at uni. Luckily enough, over the past few weeks there has been people waterblasting the outside of the buildings, so there would still be their harnesses to go down the side of the building once it had quieted down a bit.
After waiting it out for a while, i would go down to the ground level and break into the cafe to get a knife or two. Granted i have no knife fighting ability, but hey, i might get lucky.
My ultimate goal would be to get back to my parents place up north. Im pretty sure they will be fine, but even if they are not it would still be my destination. They live out in the country, on top of a hill, and they have a windmill along with about 12 solar panels, so no worries on power. also a pine forest nearby, so if the place wasnt overrun it wouldnt be too hard to barricade the place.
Now, just to get there.
I would head for the west coast and try find a boat. failing that, i would just start hiking. the west coast is pretty remote, so it wouldnt be too hard to stay out of sight. the only problem would be getting past Auckland which is a chokepoint that i would need to get through some how. i would probably die here if i didnt have a boat. Auckland has 1 million people, a solid quarter of the population.

on a side note, if i did somehow make it all the way up north, im pretty certain my whole extended family would be at my house. along with most of my friends from my hometown. everyones plan for any disaster is go to my house

edit: just remembered that Auckland is where the NZSAS is based. No way they would be defeated by a few pesky zombies.

This post has been edited by melonhead: 25 March 2015 - 02:30 AM

[Nicodimas]

Zombies!!

http://www.scribd.co...9805179/Zombies

[Nicodimas]

In terms of the practical...every family should have multiple disaster plans aligned and talk about it. Talk about such things to your neighbors and find out which ones warrant help and can be of help if something ....does happen.

Look over your friends/colleagues and figure who and why they are useful. Which ones will slow you down? Bad habits..Mental strength. Everyone has something to offer. Learning to judge now..could be useful.

Look at the common psyche of people and ask them what they are going to do in a disaster scenario, plan to do something different.off the wall. Increase your out of box thinking..

Hone your physical skills, mental and knowledge based attributes. If their is something you can't/wont do try it! Explore your upper limit of range of talents...

Decide your boundaries in this scenarios and establish a grounded rule set for sanity and humanity purposes. Don't let yourself get to far gone. Prepare early.

Find things that you can do to make things fun later. End of the world Scenario. Not so much fun..don't lose your mind, just to be alive..Group based activities are a must.

This post has been edited by Nicodimas: 25 March 2015 - 04:28 AM

[Shinrei]

Good advice Nico. Here I had you pegged as the type to just kill me and take my stuff.

Actually, this is pretty much true. Maybe I'm a weirdo, but I have sat around considering who I would trust to have about in case of disaster. Not zombie disaster of course, but the very real possibility of earthquake/tsunami here in Japan. I've already experienced what happens to an area moderately far away from the affected zone. Stores were emptied out of supplies, gasoline was running out and we had rolling power outages. What there wasn't was panic. People basically cooperated.

Needless to say we're prepared. We never have less than 2 weeks worth of water in our place, plus some basic water purifiers. We have an even greater stock of food, a generator, portable gas stoves with plenty of cannisters and solar powered emergency lights as well as handcrank flashlights and a handcrank radio. A bugout bag is also packed with even more food, water, towels, first aid kit, toilet paper, lighters and some basic tools.

Like I said, if I was home during the big zombie breakdown, we could probably successfully hole up for a couple of weeks and hope things calmed down. Our apartment is 2nd floor, with our front door on the ground level. Doors in Japan open outward, which would make it harder for it to be bashed in by zombies, and we'd just barricade the staircase with our sofa and some other stuff. I made it tougher by saying I'd be at work (therefore screwed in all liklihood).

The one thing to absolutely remember is, first thing, fill every possible container in the house with water because you never know when it may stop flowing or become contaminated.

[melonhead]

thats some good prep Shinrei. In the case of a zombie apocalypse, you probably wouldnt want to be holed up in town for longer than that anyway.

edit: it raining often enough in nz then we wouldnt really need to worry about water at home, so thats one less hassle

This post has been edited by melonhead: 25 March 2015 - 09:15 AM

[TheRetiredBridgeburner]

I live in the countryside, so unless a hoard of zombie cows descends provided we had supplies I'd stand a chance I think.

Anyone who could get out to us is more than welcome :-P

[DeadHedge]

Talking of the Zombie apocalypse, does it bother anyone else that there are never and zombie animals? Or a severe lack of animals in general during the apocalypse?.

[Abyss]

I know i've seen a ref somewhere to someone is doing a zombie animal book or comic or something.


It's just sort of aside of the genre... i mean, zombie gerbils just aren't all that scary... wait, no i take that back zombie gerbils are horrifying, zombie penguins aren't all that scary.

[Cause]

Zombie Apocalpse?

Im more prepared fr the zombie apocalypse than finding out my girlfriend is pregnant.

[Solidsnape]

Zombie vampire bats.


I want to know where they're getting all the fuel from in TWD.
They do a LOT of driving.

[Nicodimas]

Shinrei, on 25 March 2015 - 07:41 AM, said:

Good advice Nico. Here I had you pegged as the type to just kill me and take my stuff.

Naw, honestly the Department of Defense ran simulations in the 60s-70's about post nuclear war scenarios. It stated that looters would be very very present after the nuclear apocalypse in very large numbers. However, due to how armed American are they would likely only survive 4 encounters. There is some argument on survival forums what this means....really? Does that mean 3 set's of defenders die before one set of people on the offense<looters> would get taken out? Or does that mean the 4th time is first time they hit resistance of any sort and get killed going for someones gears and items..food..or other.

I believe in a forming a strong community in this situation. Numbers are resources in a very true balance are what would be needed. Both are needed in the largest numbers sustainable for the longest time to truly make it. Different people just like having different items/skills would help the most too.

I do believe in having an offensive unit though. In the Walking Dead, I think they should make strike teams of four that would act as scouts and clear zombies all day. Having multiple units to rotate in and out has several advantages as it would keep skills up, learn surrounding terrain, know who you can trust internally, and find obstacles in your zone. There is more as they could also grab stuff they come upon. You would also be able to identify threats before they come...which is essential. You could prep all sort's of weapons/bobby-traps for an attacking army..something Walking Dead really should have explored. In the post-apocalypse world chemicals will most likely be used..so prepare accordingly.

This post has been edited by Nicodimas: 25 March 2015 - 04:45 PM

[Dolmen 2.0]

Zombies...

hmmn. ok assuming these are voodoo zombies with mild motivation for brains.

I like my chances better if I'm a dick and effectively lookout for myself. My family is REALLY spread out and my wife is with her parents prepping for the delivery so unless I magic the cash to get on a plane and fly over to them I don't see us getting together in the immediate situation. It sucks but it's well beyond me to get to them or my dad and brother. My mom is the furthest away and in a very dense city, so is my sister...
All I can do is hope my mum is traveling here or to a better location, as she tends to do quite regularly, when the apocalypse hits.

My new office park is an hour away from my flat. The area is less dense and we are not that far from the ocean. It's just three of us in the office, most times just two. We can lock ourselves up during the early stages. The office park is still in the process of construction so here's my grand survival scheme:

I wait for nightfall. I'm familiar with the site antics of the neighboring construction areas(There are maybe 3 happening at the moment). I can google up the process necessary, for my plan is to hot-wire This Guy

It has a 91 Gallon Fuel capacity and chugs along at a solid 11 km/h.

There are a lot of malls in the area, I'd puff over to the wholesale mall just down the way. The congestion down that route is terrible so might try to "forge" a new route off the ramp in from the highway. quite a few vehicles in the way so off road might be the best bet anyways. Malls are often too easily accessible, too much glass to be reliable. This hideout I have in mind is built more like a warehouse. It's also got a gas station on site. If I can work out a way to rig the pumps this makes the Soil Compressor viable, atleast for a little while. Not too many trips would be planned. The Compresser would be a good "Shock-Troop". I'd use it as leverage to get into some shelter.

I could be a dick once more and just barrel into the mall but I'd like to try get into a society. The site vehicle and I would prove useful and worth them letting in. once we get the CAT in through the Warehouse doors I'd rig up some defensive weapons and armor for myself and the CAT. I've seen some chainsaws at that mall, a few locks, firepit grids and a welding torch. the possibilities are endless. Fortifying all the exits with dog food and potato sacks would help mask our scent as the goods decompose. So I don't see us worrying too much about getting rushed.

Then its all about prepping the CAT for exit supply runs. Once the fuel runs out we'd need to make foot trips. so every foray the CAT makes would need to be made for heavy items like weapons and fuel. We could pad the driver booth up. we could also set up some headlight torches overhead for night travel. I'd also insist we tie up some trolleys at the back to aid supply runs and to hold supplies if we decide to make a move. We'd be able to gear up for any forced exit we need to make.

If all hell breaks loose we can always attempt a run to the coastal resorts but I am not a seafaring animal. I'd much rather shell up, maybe in the long term convince others we make trips back to the construction site and see about getting some diggers to moat up our mall, Till asphalt into farm-able land and move cars into an outer defensive perimeter ALA Peter Clines Ex-heroes Series.

End game - I'd hope for access to more information should it be available That's key, establish survival then hunt down situational intelligence. If I can get communication lines open to my family I think I'd try my best to organize it so we can meet up. How I go about it would depend on where they are and what sort of organized relief operations are in-place.

This post has been edited by Dolmen 2.0: 25 March 2015 - 06:19 PM

[worry]

Cause, on 25 March 2015 - 02:52 PM, said:

Zombie Apocalpse?

Im more prepared fr the zombie apocalypse than finding out my girlfriend is pregnant.

[melonhead]

speaking of zombie animals, i read a book a while ago, which i would recommend, which featured them. Feed, by Mira Grant. it is a story about a group of blog journalists after the zombie apocalypse, where humanity has actually survived and not completely fallen to pieces like in most stories. but i digress,
zombie animals.
in this story any animal over a certain weight was susceptible to the zombie virus. i think your cats and dogs and the like were all fine, unless they were a big breed of dog. But anything larger than that, youve got yourself a zombie animal.
And it also makes a point about something you never think about with a zombie apocalypse. We would have to turn vegetarian. even if you find an animal that hasnt been turned, maybe its got a bit of blood or something on it, and can you be sure that there is no little tiny cuts in your throat? or maybe its like walking dead, so as soon as you kill the animal to eat it, its going to come back as a zombie anyway.
I dont wanna be a vegetarian, I love meat

[Gust Hubb]

Problem with zombie animals is most viruses have animal specific predilections. Simply put, it is why your dog doesn't catch the common cold from you. There are viruses that effect both man and animal (rabies for instance) so the transfer from one infected to the other isn't unheard of, but a world without zombie animals makes sense to me.

[Solidsnape]

Gust Hubb, on 26 March 2015 - 12:19 PM, said:

Problem with zombie animals is most viruses have animal specific predilections. Simply put, it is why your dog doesn't catch the common cold from you. There are viruses that effect both man and animal (rabies for instance) so the transfer from one infected to the other isn't unheard of, but a world without zombie animals makes sense to me.

GH you're supposed to resurrect threads, not kill them.
Unless this is foreshadowing?

Ooooo the irony involved when you eventually "reanimate" this thread. Hehe.