[Blend]

Khellendros, on 26 February 2015 - 04:46 PM, said:

Blend, my friend, it seems to me that every other post of yours over the last few pages has involved some variation of "going through Khell's territory."

I think you need a history lesson. Trying to hit me early doors has never worked. I'm like Russia in winter - a cold, inhospitable region which will suck the life out of you. Gnaw tried it. CF tried it. They gained a little, and then lost a lot. And sure, sure, maybe afterwards I wasn't the world power I used to be, but it took them several rounds to recover, if they ever even arguably did.

So why don't you go play with your little ancient friends and I won't stomp all over you. Do you want to get stuck between me and the ancients? Because that's what will happen, should I deign to look your way.

Well, I guess the one game I've been part of with you, you weren't that spectacular. Honestly though, your territory is about all that's open to me besides CF and D'rek. I'll have to do something to deal with CF somehow eventually, but for now he's too strong. And, well, regards D'rek...

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And what is this conversation I see between you and D'rek? That's who you're considering as your alliance partner? The person whose hexes you can't even pass through without having to fight something anyway? Moreover, someone who will always put their own chances of winning above the sacred AND sacrosanct bond of the alliance? Make no mistake, an alliance at this point would benefit D'rek far more than it would you.

I wouldn't need to ally with D'rek in order to move through her territory, I'd do it to keep her as a buffer between me and the right side of the board, so that I can concentrate on dealing with you and CF. If I'm allied with D'rek and I can concentrate on keeping you and CF occupied, she can concentrate on keeping Gnaw and Twelve in check.

And if anyone think that I wouldn't break the alliance if it benefited me, they're wrong. So I can understand and work with an alliance member who may break the alliance if it benefits them in the future.

The only other alliance I see as being potentially useful to me would be if you, CF and I allied and tried to take over the bottom half of the map (Tapper, Tatts, IH) while D'rek deals with Gnaw and Twelve and hopefully doesn't have the time to worry too much about us.

[D'rek]

I'm kinda leaning more right now towards just letting Gnaw and Twelve bludgeon each other, rather than trying to personally intervene. Draco is not an early-game stomper like Orion or Rho Indi - there's probably not much I can do to Gnaw or Twelve anyways with how isolated they are.

I'll start worrying about Twelve or Gnaw once one of them takes over the other's homeworld and starts looking to expand further (ie towards me).

I mean, c'mon, I have my own crap to deal with over here!

[Blend]

D, on 27 February 2015 - 03:46 PM, said:

I'm kinda leaning more right now towards just letting Gnaw and Twelve bludgeon each other, rather than trying to personally intervene. Draco is not an early-game stomper like Orion or Rho Indi - there's probably not much I can do to Gnaw or Twelve anyways with how isolated they are.

I'll start worrying about Twelve or Gnaw once one of them takes over the other's homeworld and starts looking to expand further (ie towards me).

I mean, c'mon, I have my own crap to deal with over here!

If you don't have to worry about Gnaw and Twelve, and me and Khell are at each other's throats, that would just leave you with nothing to worry about. Maybe I'll have to seriously reconsider whether or not it's a good move to ally with you.

[Tattersail_]

It's all words until it happens. Everyone is moving towards their own agenda. Khell the bastard took that science development. CF battering the ancients. Drek moving to the GC to influence more hexes. Tapper sealing himself of from the world. Until the alliance is formed then your all just full of shit. Haha.

[twelve]

Provisional

Move both interceptors in homeworld 230 to 211 Beta Aquilae.

[D'rek]

Blend, on 27 February 2015 - 04:00 PM, said:

D, on 27 February 2015 - 03:46 PM, said:

I'm kinda leaning more right now towards just letting Gnaw and Twelve bludgeon each other, rather than trying to personally intervene. Draco is not an early-game stomper like Orion or Rho Indi - there's probably not much I can do to Gnaw or Twelve anyways with how isolated they are.

I'll start worrying about Twelve or Gnaw once one of them takes over the other's homeworld and starts looking to expand further (ie towards me).

I mean, c'mon, I have my own crap to deal with over here!

If you don't have to worry about Gnaw and Twelve, and me and Khell are at each other's throats, that would just leave you with nothing to worry about. Maybe I'll have to seriously reconsider whether or not it's a good move to ally with you.

I hardly think you and Khell are going to be "at each other's throats". What's the benefit for Khell to go through the warp portal and take your homeworld when he'll just have to fight CF for it then, whereas mine is nicely isolated? Khell's probably going to focus his attacks on me, but wait until he's choked the warp portal so you can't fly through and hit his backside.

Meanwhile, CF might go for you or he might go for me. Or, since he'll have 4 cruisers next round, he might go for both of us at the same time.

And even if I'm not planning to go on the offensive against Gnaw or Twelve, it doesn't mean I can just ignore them. Twelve will have tons of ships and Gnaw has Jump Drive, so I definitely have to keep a guard up around there, too.

So no, I will definitely not have "nothing to worry about"!

[D'rek]

twelve, on 27 February 2015 - 04:32 PM, said:

Provisional

Move both interceptors in homeworld 230 to 211 Beta Aquilae.

Bah, you ass.

[cerveza_fiesta]

Keep in mind here all, with all of D'rek's big talk of strategy and overtures of alliance and peace.....

She has the strongest economy in the game and can easily spread to 2 more ancient hexes by next round.

I am not planning on going for your homeworld Blend because a) it would be a pain in the butt to capture and keep, b ) it has no discovery tile on it, and c ) somebody has to keep d'rek in check here!

Especially with respect to reason c above, I think I'm the only one positioned to really challenge her effectively in the western end of the board at the moment.

[cerveza_fiesta]

Gnaw, can you double check my total number of influence discs? Seems to me there might be one too many on the board right now....not sure.

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as in one too many total between hexes and playerboards and my supply pile combined

This post has been edited by cerveza_fiesta: 27 February 2015 - 04:50 PM

[D'rek]

cerveza_fiesta, on 27 February 2015 - 04:41 PM, said:

Keep in mind here all, with all of D'rek's big talk of strategy and overtures of alliance and peace.....

She has the strongest economy in the game and can easily spread to 2 more ancient hexes by next round.

I am not planning on going for your homeworld Blend because a) it would be a pain in the butt to capture and keep, b ) it has no discovery tile on it, and c ) somebody has to keep d'rek in check here!

Especially with respect to reason c above, I think I'm the only one positioned to really challenge her effectively in the western end of the board at the moment.

Actually, if we're talking number of cubes deployed here, Gnaw has the biggest (and Tapper and I are about even). And that's with me having 3 diplomatic relations, as well (whereas Gnaw has none and Tapper has 1). Additionally, of course I have a pretty good early economy, that is what Draco does. What I don't have is materials, or research, because again that is what Draco be.

I could just as easily point at you CF and be like

"Keep in mind here all, with all of CF's big holider-than-thou-I-send-out-of-office-replies-and-won't-participate-in-discussion.....

He has the strongest military in the game and can easily spread to 2 more player hexes by next round. " blablabla

So, pretty big strawman argument from you CF and hypocritical to boot. Sheesh!

[cerveza_fiesta]

D, on 27 February 2015 - 04:50 PM, said:

cerveza_fiesta, on 27 February 2015 - 04:41 PM, said:

Keep in mind here all, with all of D'rek's big talk of strategy and overtures of alliance and peace.....

She has the strongest economy in the game and can easily spread to 2 more ancient hexes by next round.

I am not planning on going for your homeworld Blend because a) it would be a pain in the butt to capture and keep, b ) it has no discovery tile on it, and c ) somebody has to keep d'rek in check here!

Especially with respect to reason c above, I think I'm the only one positioned to really challenge her effectively in the western end of the board at the moment.

Actually, if we're talking number of cubes deployed here, Gnaw has the biggest (and Tapper and I are about even). And that's with me having 3 diplomatic relations, as well (whereas Gnaw has none and Tapper has 1). Additionally, of course I have a pretty good early economy, that is what Draco does. What I don't have is materials, or research, because again that is what Draco be.

I could just as easily point at you CF and be like

"Keep in mind here all, with all of CF's big holider-than-thou-I-send-out-of-office-replies-and-won't-participate-in-discussion.....

He has the strongest military in the game and can easily spread to 2 more player hexes by next round. " blablabla

So, pretty big strawman argument from you CF and hypocritical to boot. Sheesh!

A typical response from a weakling race with no millitary assets. Maybe such bluffs will work on other weakling races but the ORION are immune to your big-talk.

[cerveza_fiesta]

cerveza_fiesta, on 27 February 2015 - 04:49 PM, said:

Gnaw, can you double check my total number of influence discs? Seems to me there might be one too many on the board right now....not sure.

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as in one too many total between hexes and playerboards and my supply pile combined

Just having another look there and counted discs compared to others. I'm almost certain there is an extra disc on my board that shouldn't be there.

and yes, that's accounting for my advanced robotics research last round.

Funny though, it didn't show up last round at all -- everything tallied up properly. Maybe you copy pasted a disc by mistake?

[D'rek]

cerveza_fiesta, on 27 February 2015 - 04:56 PM, said:

cerveza_fiesta, on 27 February 2015 - 04:49 PM, said:

Gnaw, can you double check my total number of influence discs? Seems to me there might be one too many on the board right now....not sure.

edit

as in one too many total between hexes and playerboards and my supply pile combined

Just having another look there and counted discs compared to others. I'm almost certain there is an extra disc on my board that shouldn't be there.

and yes, that's accounting for my advanced robotics research last round.

Funny though, it didn't show up last round at all -- everything tallied up properly. Maybe you copy pasted a disc by mistake?

I just realized my Adv Robotics disc was never moved up. $%&@. Time to re-plan all the things.

[Gnaw]

I don't have the SVG file open. before I do: Does anyone else have it open???

[twelve]

D, on 27 February 2015 - 04:35 PM, said:

twelve, on 27 February 2015 - 04:32 PM, said:

Provisional

Move both interceptors in homeworld 230 to 211 Beta Aquilae.

Bah, you ass.

I warned you but you had to force my hand.

[D'rek]

twelve, on 27 February 2015 - 05:07 PM, said:

D, on 27 February 2015 - 04:35 PM, said:

twelve, on 27 February 2015 - 04:32 PM, said:

Provisional

Move both interceptors in homeworld 230 to 211 Beta Aquilae.

Bah, you ass.

I warned you but you had to force my hand.

What the fuck are you talking about?!

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Twelve: "I'm going to attack Beta Aquilae!"

D'rek: "Oh, really? Darn, I was going to move up and influence it."

T: "Nein! It is my birthright!"

D: "Ok, well I guess I can wait for your interceptors to go past and grab a discovery..."

T: "NEIN! THOSE ARE ALSO MY BIRTHRIGHT!"

D: "Surely we can discuss th-"

T: "Actually I've decided not to attack Beta Aquilae this round."

D: "Oh, okay, I guess I can influence it for one round then." *moves*

T: "ATTACK BETA AQUILAE!!!"

There's no "I forced your hand" like some sort of wicked puppet-master blackmail. Don't give me that crap Twelve. You decided to lie just to get me to waste half an action for no good reason when you could've simply been up-front and honest about your intentions. It would've moved you up in my good books.

But not only did you decide to lie, you did it for no good reason whatsoever. I could understand lying because you would get an edge out of it, but for no reason? It's just stupid, and doesn't lead me to be able to have any confidence in your word, even when things could be mutually beneficial to both of us.

[Galactic Council]

cerveza_fiesta, on 27 February 2015 - 04:49 PM, said:

Gnaw, can you double check my total number of influence discs? Seems to me there might be one too many on the board right now....not sure.

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as in one too many total between hexes and playerboards and my supply pile combined

You're right. 17 of them. Sorry

[Galactic Council]

Blend, on 27 February 2015 - 02:05 PM, said:

Is it my turn?

Build 2 interceptors in my homeworld.

Hmm. for turn 3 or 4? I processed your provisional influence Geminga but it is a provisional so changeable.

[Gnaw]

D, on 27 February 2015 - 05:13 PM, said:

twelve, on 27 February 2015 - 05:07 PM, said:

D, on 27 February 2015 - 04:35 PM, said:

twelve, on 27 February 2015 - 04:32 PM, said:

Provisional

Move both interceptors in homeworld 230 to 211 Beta Aquilae.

Bah, you ass.

I warned you but you had to force my hand.

What the fuck are you talking about?!

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Twelve: "I'm going to attack Beta Aquilae!"

D'rek: "Oh, really? Darn, I was going to move up and influence it."

T: "Nein! It is my birthright!"

D: "Ok, well I guess I can wait for your interceptors to go past and grab a discovery..."

T: "NEIN! THOSE ARE ALSO MY BIRTHRIGHT!"

D: "Surely we can discuss th-"

T: "Actually I've decided not to attack Beta Aquilae this round."

D: "Oh, okay, I guess I can influence it for one round then." *moves*

T: "ATTACK BETA AQUILAE!!!"

There's no "I forced your hand" like some sort of wicked puppet-master blackmail. Don't give me that crap Twelve. You decided to lie just to get me to waste half an action for no good reason when you could've simply been up-front and honest about your intentions. It would've moved you up in my good books.

But not only did you decide to lie, you did it for no good reason whatsoever. I could understand lying because you would get an edge out of it, but for no reason? It's just stupid, and doesn't lead me to be able to have any confidence in your word, even when things could be mutually beneficial to both of us.

To be fair to Twelve, it was only a lie once I converted materials to science and lost the potential to put a Dread with -3 shields in there that he decided to attack it.

[Galactic Council]

D, on 27 February 2015 - 04:59 PM, said:

cerveza_fiesta, on 27 February 2015 - 04:56 PM, said:

cerveza_fiesta, on 27 February 2015 - 04:49 PM, said:

Gnaw, can you double check my total number of influence discs? Seems to me there might be one too many on the board right now....not sure.

edit

as in one too many total between hexes and playerboards and my supply pile combined

Just having another look there and counted discs compared to others. I'm almost certain there is an extra disc on my board that shouldn't be there.

and yes, that's accounting for my advanced robotics research last round.

Funny though, it didn't show up last round at all -- everything tallied up properly. Maybe you copy pasted a disc by mistake?

I just realized my Adv Robotics disc was never moved up. $%&@. Time to re-plan all the things.

fixed now. apologies.