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 QuickTidal, on 01 April 2026 - 11:36 AM, said:

.......entirely fictional spaces where JKR thinks that if she suggests often enough that Imane Khelif is really a man, people will believe it...and of course the idiot that is Pierre Pollievre in my country re-tweeted her post....
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Between this and the shrieking against high speed rail, he's really working hard to end his political career.

[QuickTidal]

 Abyss, on 01 April 2026 - 01:57 PM, said:

 QuickTidal, on 01 April 2026 - 11:36 AM, said:

.......entirely fictional spaces where JKR thinks that if she suggests often enough that Imane Khelif is really a man, people will believe it...and of course the idiot that is Pierre Pollievre in my country re-tweeted her post....
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Between this and the shrieking against high speed rail, he's really working hard to end his political career.

Some decent soul went and found the video of Harper's govt praising the high speed rail plan back then in 2008...which he is now against because he needs a whipping post otherwise he can't function.

[Abyss]

 QuickTidal, on 01 April 2026 - 02:29 PM, said:

 Abyss, on 01 April 2026 - 01:57 PM, said:

 QuickTidal, on 01 April 2026 - 11:36 AM, said:

.......entirely fictional spaces where JKR thinks that if she suggests often enough that Imane Khelif is really a man, people will believe it...and of course the idiot that is Pierre Pollievre in my country re-tweeted her post....
...

Between this and the shrieking against high speed rail, he's really working hard to end his political career.

Some decent soul went and found the video of Harper's govt praising the high speed rail plan back then in 2008...which he is now against because he needs a whipping post otherwise he can't function.

If the gov had killed the plan PP would be demanding a public inquiry and mass floggings to restore it.

[QuickTidal]

There's like 3 by-elections happening in and around Toronto and one in Montreal that if they stay Liberal will push Carney into a Majority government. Now, in normal times I would not think that a majority is good, as things may get done, but the other parties have no real say so there's not compromises...that said, the Cons will just continue to beat their Canada-is-Broken-We-need-PP drums and not compromise on anything...so in this case, I think Carney getting a majority is good, and if he does bad things then in 4 years we can give him the boot.

That said, these by-elections, which would normally not new news, are in the news due to their ability to give Carney the seats for a Liberal majority...but now you have everyone under the sun coming out saying "An election? ! How did I not know?! Goddamn sneaky liberals!"...and such things...which just means they aren't paying attention that these are by-elections and unless they are in the ridings, they are not voting.

But on top of these on social media you get SO many people saying that it would be rigged, and that the last election was rigged...their claims are all a complete indictment of the civics educations in this country...

1. They claim that Carney was "selected not elected"...(oh a three word phrase to repeat, where have I seen THAT tactic before?)....because in Canada each party needs a leader, and Trudeau stepped down so the Liberal party (internally) chose from 4 new candidiates of which Carney was overwhelmingly chosen (I voted in that party choice), to lead the party. This is different from the eventual General election that was called for Trudeau stepping down and thus his govt collapsing....but they've conflated these two things to claim that becuase Carney was chosen from amongst the other candidates, but it didn't happen for the general public and just registered Liberals...that it's a rig...nevermind that all the parties select new leaders in the same way, and I was not part of the selection process when PP was chosen as Conservative leader because I'm not a registered conservative. It's the dumbest argument of all time...but explaining it when they just shove a 3-word buzz phrase at you is exhausting.

2. They claim that the General election was rigged. It's pretty much impossible to cheat in a Canadian election. We have an independent elections body that oversees our elections, and the process is that a member of each party is present at all polling stations from the moment they open until the moment the votes are all in and counted...so for any cheating to happen you would need people in other parties to be complicit in helping the other team get more votes...which I don't think I need to explain does not occur.

3. They bang on about the fact that the votes leave the polling location one a car or whatever as a gotcha....there are videos where conservative shitbags have actually videod themselves acosting election workers for this action...the part they don't understand is that the votes are LITERALLY counted in the polling station as you vote and put through a machine that counts the vote then and there. The actual paper ballots leave the property only for records keeping after the fact. So those votes cannot be used elsewhere or to help anyone get more votes. It's impossible....so these Rebel News chuds video people doing essentially record keeping and scream at them that they caught them lying and cheating...again, exhausting.

4. Oh my favourite talking point is their defense of PP losing his seat in Ottawa that he'd held for 20 years...they claim that the riding's boundaries were changed and thus he got less votes than he would have...which, 2 things, 1. When a ridings boundaries change, the elected MP of that riding must look at the change and approve it....PP approved that change when he was MP an it happened months before he was turfed. 2. the changes to the riding actually BENEFITTED him by traditional voting numbers, the place that was added to the riding had voted mostly conservative in the past...and he STILL lost the riding by like 1500 votes...so the real answer is that he was JUST that unlikable to the people off his riding who had kept him in power for 20 years and wanted someone else.

an offshoot of the same body that oversees the Canadian election, does the provincial elections...but of course you don't see these same entities bitching about Doug Ford's Conservatives having a 3rd supermajority...becuase that's their team dontchaknow....although Ford (as much as I dislike him)( gets along with Carney and thinks he should have a majority so the hardcore PP cons all call him a Liberal now...LOL...I'm like come live in Ontario, that man is NOT enacting non-conservative policies...he's just inexplicably personable and gets along not just with Carney but deeply leftist Toronto mayor Olivia Chow as well.

Anyways, it's so annoying to watch all these people who failed civics parrot insane conspiracies.

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 06 April 2026 - 01:54 PM

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It's all they have to work with because the Cons are so utterly toothless right now. The Carney Libs are doing a good job. Sure there are things they could do better/different, but nothing is such a mess that anyone can really point at them and credibly say they're failing. So PP and co are left w empty noise and rhetoric. I really wish they would get rid of him and get someone credible and effective out front. I will watch with interest whether the new NDP leader has what it takes to restore relevance to that party - i'm sceptical but the opportunity is there if they can play a long game and seize it.

[QuickTidal]

Abyss, on 07 April 2026 - 02:22 PM, said:

I will watch with interest whether the new NDP leader has what it takes to restore relevance to that party - i'm sceptical but the opportunity is there if they can play a long game and seize it.

I'm just still stunned that the head of the NDP is a guy who I used to watch make Much Music doc-content when I was a teen. LOL

[QuickTidal]

Huh, Pollievre is now losing SoCons to the Liberals...in that inexplicably Marylin Gladu has crossed the floor. She's pretty hardcore Social Conservative with a Reformist nature that aligns with PP's SoCon view as well....I expect old school Progressive Conservatives to cross, but a SoCon means that even though she aligns more with the Cons, PP's leadership was bothering her. Wild.

Anyways, this now means that all the Liberals need to do is win the two Liberal stronghold ByElections in Toronto and they have a majority...the ByEleciton in Montreal that was more of a tossup would be cream, but isn't needed anymore.

At some point you'd expect the FedCons to get their heads out of their asses and realize that Pollivere is NOT the leader when so many people are jumping ship to Carney's more steady, center-right hand.

EDIT: I would also hope that PP's goose is cooked if that happens...losing Marylin should be a cooked goose moment already, but that guy loves to cling to power...so who knows?

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 08 April 2026 - 03:23 PM

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At this point i wonder whether PP is more sacrificial lamb than actual leader. Any potential usurper with half a brain is likely to lay low, wait out the current crises - Trump, Alberta, cost of living - and Carney's general impression of competence, then toss PP under the tour bus and surge fwd blaming the Libs for whatever isn't perfect at the time. I'm also suspicious of Doug Ford in the background waiting for his chance to shift to the federal front and take a shot at PM. He would need to learn French at least a little, but dumber people than him have managed that.

[QuickTidal]

Abyss, on 08 April 2026 - 04:16 PM, said:

I'm also suspicious of Doug Ford in the background waiting for his chance to shift to the federal front and take a shot at PM. He would need to learn French at least a little, but dumber people than him have managed that.

I admit to wanting to hear him try French...LOL

And if you stand them up next to each other Ford is better at his job than PP...but I still would. not want to see Ford as PM...shiver...

[Tiste Simeon]

Saw the following online, thought you guys would get a chuckle out of it:

Orban lost so badly he's now eyeing up a safe seat in Alberta.

[QuickTidal]

Tiste Simeon, on 13 April 2026 - 08:51 AM, said:

Saw the following online, thought you guys would get a chuckle out of it:

Orban lost so badly he's now eyeing up a safe seat in Alberta.

SNORT!

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QuickTidal, on 13 April 2026 - 11:20 AM, said:

Tiste Simeon, on 13 April 2026 - 08:51 AM, said:

Saw the following online, thought you guys would get a chuckle out of it:

Orban lost so badly he's now eyeing up a safe seat in Alberta.

SNORT!

Give him that and three months, the Cons will make him party leader.

[QuickTidal]

Abyss, on 13 April 2026 - 02:08 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 13 April 2026 - 11:20 AM, said:

Tiste Simeon, on 13 April 2026 - 08:51 AM, said:

Saw the following online, thought you guys would get a chuckle out of it:

Orban lost so badly he's now eyeing up a safe seat in Alberta.

SNORT!

Give him that and three months, the Cons will make him party leader.

He'll have to bareknuckle box Pollievre for it probably.

[QuickTidal]

Well that's it. A sweep of the Byelections and Carney's Liberals have a majority govt.

Pollievre HAS to be done right? That's gotta be it for him. Now he's not just the guy who lost his seat (and had to parachute into a safe Alberta one later), lost the election after having had a 30pt lead, and then lost what? 4 MPs from his party? And now succumbs to a Majority govt that makes him just a toothless sqwawkbox as Oppo leader?

That said, he will have to be pushed. No way the career politician who has spent his whole life since school trying for this spot goes quietly or resigns. He should pull a Trudeau and resign, but he will not and the party will have to shove him. The FedCons need to take the next 3-4 years, turf PP, and find the way forward that pushes away from the Reformist Social nonsense that Canadians keep rejecting, and find the middle ground again...with leader who offers what he can do to make Canada BETTER not why it's apparently "Broken".

Carney feels like he's running a Unity govt now, like wartime one that for all purposes most of the country can get behind to move Canada forward.

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QuickTidal, on 14 April 2026 - 11:33 AM, said:

Well that's it. A sweep of the Byelections and Carney's Liberals have a majority govt.

Pollievre HAS to be done right? That's gotta be it for him. Now he's not just the guy who lost his seat (and had to parachute into a safe Alberta one later), lost the election after having had a 30pt lead, and then lost what? 4 MPs from his party? And now succumbs to a Majority govt that makes him just a toothless sqwawkbox as Oppo leader?

That said, he will have to be pushed. No way the career politician who has spent his whole life since school trying for this spot goes quietly or resigns. He should pull a Trudeau and resign, but he will not and the party will have to shove him. The FedCons need to take the next 3-4 years, turf PP, and find the way forward that pushes away from the Reformist Social nonsense that Canadians keep rejecting, and find the middle ground again...with leader who offers what he can do to make Canada BETTER not why it's apparently "Broken".

Carney feels like he's running a Unity govt now, like wartime one that for all purposes most of the country can get behind to move Canada forward.

all accurate i think. it's not 'if' but 'when' for PP now and im curious whether he goes quiet or continues to flail/rail. Won't be surprised if he politely told to stfu and sit in his gifted seat... it's over dude, you came close but you lost and then lost some more.

[QuickTidal]

Abyss, on 14 April 2026 - 02:00 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 14 April 2026 - 11:33 AM, said:

Well that's it. A sweep of the Byelections and Carney's Liberals have a majority govt.

Pollievre HAS to be done right? That's gotta be it for him. Now he's not just the guy who lost his seat (and had to parachute into a safe Alberta one later), lost the election after having had a 30pt lead, and then lost what? 4 MPs from his party? And now succumbs to a Majority govt that makes him just a toothless sqwawkbox as Oppo leader?

That said, he will have to be pushed. No way the career politician who has spent his whole life since school trying for this spot goes quietly or resigns. He should pull a Trudeau and resign, but he will not and the party will have to shove him. The FedCons need to take the next 3-4 years, turf PP, and find the way forward that pushes away from the Reformist Social nonsense that Canadians keep rejecting, and find the middle ground again...with leader who offers what he can do to make Canada BETTER not why it's apparently "Broken".

Carney feels like he's running a Unity govt now, like wartime one that for all purposes most of the country can get behind to move Canada forward.

all accurate i think. it's not 'if' but 'when' for PP now and im curious whether he goes quiet or continues to flail/rail. Won't be surprised if he politely told to stfu and sit in his gifted seat... it's over dude, you came close but you lost and then lost some more.

I keep seeing people say that he'll stay becuase now he can just rant at the liberals without having to ride any vote lines....but no, I think that if the FedCons know what's good for them they rebuild. This has been a year long disastrous loss for them (a historical one in fact) and unless they turf him and rebuild they will just lose again in 3+ years.

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QuickTidal, on 14 April 2026 - 03:40 PM, said:

Abyss, on 14 April 2026 - 02:00 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 14 April 2026 - 11:33 AM, said:

Well that's it. A sweep of the Byelections and Carney's Liberals have a majority govt.

Pollievre HAS to be done right? That's gotta be it for him. Now he's not just the guy who lost his seat (and had to parachute into a safe Alberta one later), lost the election after having had a 30pt lead, and then lost what? 4 MPs from his party? And now succumbs to a Majority govt that makes him just a toothless sqwawkbox as Oppo leader?

That said, he will have to be pushed. No way the career politician who has spent his whole life since school trying for this spot goes quietly or resigns. He should pull a Trudeau and resign, but he will not and the party will have to shove him. The FedCons need to take the next 3-4 years, turf PP, and find the way forward that pushes away from the Reformist Social nonsense that Canadians keep rejecting, and find the middle ground again...with leader who offers what he can do to make Canada BETTER not why it's apparently "Broken".

Carney feels like he's running a Unity govt now, like wartime one that for all purposes most of the country can get behind to move Canada forward.

all accurate i think. it's not 'if' but 'when' for PP now and im curious whether he goes quiet or continues to flail/rail. Won't be surprised if he politely told to stfu and sit in his gifted seat... it's over dude, you came close but you lost and then lost some more.

I keep seeing people say that he'll stay becuase now he can just rant at the liberals without having to ride any vote lines....but no, I think that if the FedCons know what's good for them they rebuild. This has been a year long disastrous loss for them (a historical one in fact) and unless they turf him and rebuild they will just lose again in 3+ years.

His party, under his leadership, gave Carney the majority the election didn't. Something is massively wrong in there if they don't see that he and his entire yell and blame everything on the Liberals but have no plan approach isn't working, isn't going to work, and isn't going to work better three years from now.

[Mentalist]

Cons need to pivot away from being trump-lites... Except they are also terrified of losing their fringe voters, who define politics exclusively as the culture war. Turfing pp would be sending a message that they're giving up on that, and as much as I obviously think they should do that, I doubt they will. FPTP just doesn't give them the flexibility to lose the fringe lunatics, so they'll keep digging the same hole, imho.

The danger is that down the line the average voter will inevitably get tired of the libs. And next time there might not be a trump-sized boogeyman to scare them straight.

[QuickTidal]

Mentalist, on 15 April 2026 - 05:31 AM, said:

Cons need to pivot away from being trump-lites... Except they are also terrified of losing their fringe voters, who define politics exclusively as the culture war. Turfing pp would be sending a message that they're giving up on that, and as much as I obviously think they should do that, I doubt they will. FPTP just doesn't give them the flexibility to lose the fringe lunatics, so they'll keep digging the same hole, imho.

The danger is that down the line the average voter will inevitably get tired of the libs. And next time there might not be a trump-sized boogeyman to scare them straight.

See, I don't know. I think that there will be enough voters and heads to prevail upon them to abandon PP eventually. The loss of Con voters in the three by-elections that just happened compared to last years General election in those ridings, signify that the conservative voting base are not happy that they aren't winning. Those were big point swings in those ridings. I think that's a microcosm of what's occurring behind the scenes.

I also think there is more floor crossings coming.

At some point the people around PP will realize how much dead weight he is, and with him gone the rest of the SoCons in the party will be rudderless.

[QuickTidal]

Abyss, on 14 April 2026 - 06:04 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 14 April 2026 - 03:40 PM, said:

Abyss, on 14 April 2026 - 02:00 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 14 April 2026 - 11:33 AM, said:

Well that's it. A sweep of the Byelections and Carney's Liberals have a majority govt.

Pollievre HAS to be done right? That's gotta be it for him. Now he's not just the guy who lost his seat (and had to parachute into a safe Alberta one later), lost the election after having had a 30pt lead, and then lost what? 4 MPs from his party? And now succumbs to a Majority govt that makes him just a toothless sqwawkbox as Oppo leader?

That said, he will have to be pushed. No way the career politician who has spent his whole life since school trying for this spot goes quietly or resigns. He should pull a Trudeau and resign, but he will not and the party will have to shove him. The FedCons need to take the next 3-4 years, turf PP, and find the way forward that pushes away from the Reformist Social nonsense that Canadians keep rejecting, and find the middle ground again...with leader who offers what he can do to make Canada BETTER not why it's apparently "Broken".

Carney feels like he's running a Unity govt now, like wartime one that for all purposes most of the country can get behind to move Canada forward.

all accurate i think. it's not 'if' but 'when' for PP now and im curious whether he goes quiet or continues to flail/rail. Won't be surprised if he politely told to stfu and sit in his gifted seat... it's over dude, you came close but you lost and then lost some more.

I keep seeing people say that he'll stay becuase now he can just rant at the liberals without having to ride any vote lines....but no, I think that if the FedCons know what's good for them they rebuild. This has been a year long disastrous loss for them (a historical one in fact) and unless they turf him and rebuild they will just lose again in 3+ years.

His party, under his leadership, gave Carney the majority the election didn't. Something is massively wrong in there if they don't see that he and his entire yell and blame everything on the Liberals but have no plan approach isn't working, isn't going to work, and isn't going to work better three years from now.

That one troll on the r/canada subreddit having a go at you claiming you "voted JT all three times" (came across that randomly as I scrolled that thread, LOL)..the base of PP-suporters are very much of the mind that there's no nuance...I voted for JT once, and NDP twice, and then Liberal again under Carney....I vote for policy more than anything else in my riding (which in Toronto was always deeply NDP, and in my new small town is Con)...PP's supporters think that if you're not voting Conservative that you must be fellating JT and it shows their hand so much as tribalist's who get behind the leader of their respective party and never waver no matter how toxic he/she may be no matter what.

Like if the CPC managed to run O'Toole again, they'd have a shot. In fact I think if the 2021 election hadn't been a COVID one, O'Toole might have won then...turfing him after that was a mistake as he was the most centrist politician the CPC has fielded since the merger...Canada leans left and I don't know how many times these eastern Canada (Alberta/Sask) ne'erdowells need to be told that before it sinks in. You want to get elected in Canada, you need Ontario and Quebec...without them you're pissing into the wind.