[Spite]

Path-Shaper, on 12 January 2015 - 04:59 AM, said:

Be warned, a shadowy government organization has taken interest in all the odd happenings in Chicago, and is in town investigating.

Tellan, on 27 January 2015 - 07:06 PM, said:

Well PS didn't answer my question so I go ice skating. That's a summer sport right? (I declared summer days ago.) I had me one of them there finds that detects NAs attempted. No indication who tried or whether they succeeded or failed.

The wording of the one aimed at Ampelas leads me to believe that the scenes mentioning gangland shootings could be clues.


The second that stood out was somebody inviting X and Y to join. Now if they've been tossing out invites two at a time, a cult could be getting out of hand.

Tellan, on 27 January 2015 - 08:28 PM, said:

Venesara, on 27 January 2015 - 08:22 PM, said:

Interesting stuff. Why did you decide to come out with it?

Because those two invites at a time are disturbing especially if I assume that said invite is the same as I received night 1. That doubled as a species find.

I think this all relevant, let's see what we can all piece together. I think this is really important toward figuring out like Tellan said. Gangland Shootings and Investigations taking place? And what you just mentioned how does this apply to dresdenverse, been looking over book information to link it all together.

[Tennes]

Tellan, on 27 January 2015 - 08:32 PM, said:

I'm already on very thin ice I think, so I'm not going to name names, but if one of last night's two invitees will admit they received one, then I can eliminate three people from the suspect list. The two invitees and the person who was (maybe) guarded.

Interesting tidbits Tellan.

In a multifaction game what suspect list would you be talking about?

A winter suspect list
An independant list

Or some other suspect list altogether?

[Tellan]

A list of who is the one handing out the invites to fellow humans.

I never recieved an invite for summer or winter. Simply the option from start of game to declare for one or the other if I wished. That was sorta the point behind the day one "who has the best offer" chatter.

I'm assuming their are more factions than just the two Sidhe. Maybe two. Gangland vs shadowy government.

[Tellan]

That was the point of my question to Pallid and Korbas about whether they had a VC that included both of them staying alive.

[Tellan]

In the meantime I'm going to start a low poster vote.

Vote Mockra

[Venesara]

Tellan, on 27 January 2015 - 09:19 PM, said:

A list of who is the one handing out the invites to fellow humans.

I never recieved an invite for summer or winter. Simply the option from start of game to declare for one or the other if I wished. That was sorta the point behind the day one "who has the best offer" chatter.

I'm assuming their are more factions than just the two Sidhe. Maybe two. Gangland vs shadowy government.

Okay, so we know from this that there's at least one other faction out there which it is possible to join other than Summer or Winter. Something which could have been expected anyway based on the OP.

But it doesn't really change all that much.

Summer wants to go after Winter and 3rd faction.
Winter wants to go after Summer and 3rd faction.
3rd faction wants to go after Summer and Winter.
If there's a fourth faction then ditto.
Unaligned (for whatever reason) are presumably happy to go after anyone but themselves.

[Tellan]

Venesara, on 27 January 2015 - 09:40 PM, said:

Okay, so we know from this that there's at least one other faction out there which it is possible to join other than Summer or Winter. Something which could have been expected anyway based on the OP.

But it doesn't really change all that much.

Summer wants to go after Winter and 3rd faction.
Winter wants to go after Summer and 3rd faction.
3rd faction wants to go after Summer and Winter.
If there's a fourth faction then ditto.
Unaligned (for whatever reason) are presumably happy to go after anyone but themselves.

I'm not so certain that the underlined are safe assumptions. Korlat brought up that point and I've seen nothing that plainly points to that being a reality.

Obdigone's OP says 'nobody knows what set them off". That could be interpreted as a signal that the Summer/Winter fight is not of their own making.

Or I could just be seeing ghosts where there are none. We need more CFs.

[Silanah]

Pallid, on 27 January 2015 - 06:23 PM, said:

By the way, did Silanah ever admit that they were wrong about the AC, or did the topic just die down over the weekend without any significant closure?

I remain convinced my view of AC is correct to me. I align my AC operation with the resultant temperature - turn the AC up, blow heat. Turn the AC down, blow cold. I know I'm not alone as I've worked with contractors on industrial site AC and they used the same frame of reference. I accept that other people use a different frame of reference (chilled throughput) but can only conclude they've never had to work with combined industrial systems. It's totally not relevant to game but take it all out of proportion if you want.

[Silanah]

Tellan, on 27 January 2015 - 07:06 PM, said:

Well PS didn't answer my question so I go ice skating. That's a summer sport right? (I declared summer days ago.) I had me one of them there finds that detects NAs attempted. No indication who tried or whether they succeeded or failed.

The wording of the one aimed at Ampelas leads me to believe that the scenes mentioning gangland shootings could be clues.


The second that stood out was somebody inviting X and Y to join. Now if they've been tossing out invites two at a time, a cult could be getting out of hand.

PS doesn't seem chatty at all. Perhaps someone in SH could take a look in on occasion?


So you get NA attempted and the target? Nice big bit of info there. Is it a general "there was a Kill on Amp that missed, a Find on Fener, a Heal on Rashan etc?"

Hmm, clues in scenes? Now who was rubbishing that thought before? They could well have a motive having recognised their own actions in scene there...

You may find multiple recruit attempts is to counterbalance there being very few valid targets for that action? I.e. if it was Pallid and the invite only worked when targeted at a shield of Korbas, not saying it is but is a possibility. Also of course possible that the cult controls half the thread.

I suspect you're a level 3 power player?

Tellan, on 27 January 2015 - 07:57 PM, said:

One of the actions submitted could be a guard type. Doesn't use that wording so could be wrong about it.

Does anyone care to share whether they received an invitation last night?


Somebody declared for winter, somebody did a find on somebody, and two people defended something.

Would defending be the shields covering the queens? If it didn't use that wording can you hint as to what wording it was?

That's only 3 NAs. You must have some blind spots because in a Dresden game I don't believe for an instant only 3 NAs happen.

Tellan, on 27 January 2015 - 08:28 PM, said:

Venesara, on 27 January 2015 - 08:22 PM, said:

Interesting stuff. Why did you decide to come out with it?

Because the game is going nowhere.

Because those two invites at a time are disturbing especially if I assume that said invite is the same as I received night 1. That doubled as a species find.

So a invite that specified it could only be received by a particular species, therefore a failure message relaying that X is/isn't species Y?

Whichever Queen it was, this would be a good time to use that power level thing again I think. Or, given that the other queen hasn't shown any thread-readable powers comparable, consider using theirs?

[Tellan]

Silanah, on 27 January 2015 - 10:57 PM, said:

PS doesn't seem chatty at all. Perhaps someone in SH could take a look in on occasion?


So you get NA attempted and the target? Nice big bit of info there. Is it a general "there was a Kill on Amp that missed, a Find on Fener, a Heal on Rashan etc?"

Hmm, clues in scenes? Now who was rubbishing that thought before? They could well have a motive having recognised their own actions in scene there...

You may find multiple recruit attempts is to counterbalance there being very few valid targets for that action? I.e. if it was Pallid and the invite only worked when targeted at a shield of Korbas, not saying it is but is a possibility. Also of course possible that the cult controls half the thread.

I suspect you're a level 3 power player?

Tellan, on 27 January 2015 - 07:57 PM, said:

One of the actions submitted could be a guard type. Doesn't use that wording so could be wrong about it.

Does anyone care to share whether they received an invitation last night?


Somebody declared for winter, somebody did a find on somebody, and two people defended something.

Would defending be the shields covering the queens? If it didn't use that wording can you hint as to what wording it was?

That's only 3 NAs. You must have some blind spots because in a Dresden game I don't believe for an instant only 3 NAs happen.

Tellan, on 27 January 2015 - 08:28 PM, said:

Venesara, on 27 January 2015 - 08:22 PM, said:

Interesting stuff. Why did you decide to come out with it?

Because the game is going nowhere.

Because those two invites at a time are disturbing especially if I assume that said invite is the same as I received night 1. That doubled as a species find.

So a invite that specified it could only be received by a particular species, therefore a failure message relaying that X is/isn't species Y?

Whichever Queen it was, this would be a good time to use that power level thing again I think. Or, given that the other queen hasn't shown any thread-readable powers comparable, consider using theirs?

Some good questions there. Including some I've asked PS for answers to.

I've said all I'm going to until I find out how annoyed he's going to be at me already.

[Pallid]

Tellan, on 27 January 2015 - 11:44 PM, said:

Silanah, on 27 January 2015 - 10:57 PM, said:

PS doesn't seem chatty at all. Perhaps someone in SH could take a look in on occasion?


So you get NA attempted and the target? Nice big bit of info there. Is it a general "there was a Kill on Amp that missed, a Find on Fener, a Heal on Rashan etc?"

Hmm, clues in scenes? Now who was rubbishing that thought before? They could well have a motive having recognised their own actions in scene there...

You may find multiple recruit attempts is to counterbalance there being very few valid targets for that action? I.e. if it was Pallid and the invite only worked when targeted at a shield of Korbas, not saying it is but is a possibility. Also of course possible that the cult controls half the thread.

I suspect you're a level 3 power player?

Tellan, on 27 January 2015 - 07:57 PM, said:

One of the actions submitted could be a guard type. Doesn't use that wording so could be wrong about it.

Does anyone care to share whether they received an invitation last night?


Somebody declared for winter, somebody did a find on somebody, and two people defended something.

Would defending be the shields covering the queens? If it didn't use that wording can you hint as to what wording it was?

That's only 3 NAs. You must have some blind spots because in a Dresden game I don't believe for an instant only 3 NAs happen.

Tellan, on 27 January 2015 - 08:28 PM, said:

Venesara, on 27 January 2015 - 08:22 PM, said:

Interesting stuff. Why did you decide to come out with it?

Because the game is going nowhere.

Because those two invites at a time are disturbing especially if I assume that said invite is the same as I received night 1. That doubled as a species find.

So a invite that specified it could only be received by a particular species, therefore a failure message relaying that X is/isn't species Y?

Whichever Queen it was, this would be a good time to use that power level thing again I think. Or, given that the other queen hasn't shown any thread-readable powers comparable, consider using theirs?

Some good questions there. Including some I've asked PS for answers to.

I've said all I'm going to until I find out how annoyed he's going to be at me already.

Well, there's like an hour to go to timeout, I believe. or it may already be too late.




Being as oblique as I can, I will indulge you mortals in that the VC assumptions are not entirely correct.

[Silanah]

Pallid, on 28 January 2015 - 01:04 AM, said:

Well, there's like an hour to go to timeout, I believe. or it may already be too late.




Being as oblique as I can, I will indulge you mortals in that the VC assumptions are not entirely correct.

2 hours I think.

You're saying we should consider other possibilities, like for instance yours are simply to survive?

[Tellan]

Path-Shaper, on 27 January 2015 - 02:33 AM, said:

It is day 5. There are 22 hours and 27 minutes left.

There are 15 alive: (8 to lynch)
Korbas, Korlat, Mockra, Omtose, Pallid, Silanah, Spite, Tellan, Tennes, Tholen, Tiamatha, Togg, Tulas Shorn, Ultama, Venesara

Tellan - Korbas

may have timed out already

[Mockra]

Hi folks, been obviously busy and the game has been dead. I'm here and am willing to vote myself if there is still time?

[Silanah]

Mockra, on 28 January 2015 - 02:33 AM, said:

Hi folks, been obviously busy and the game has been dead. I'm here and am willing to vote myself if there is still time?

Pretty pointless now.

[Pallid]

Silanah, on 28 January 2015 - 01:09 AM, said:

Pallid, on 28 January 2015 - 01:04 AM, said:

Well, there's like an hour to go to timeout, I believe. or it may already be too late.




Being as oblique as I can, I will indulge you mortals in that the VC assumptions are not entirely correct.

2 hours I think.

You're saying we should consider other possibilities, like for instance yours are simply to survive?

My dislike of my counterpart is genuine, as I'm sure theirs is of me. I would go as far as to say it's our overriding motivations. That being said, the proposed VCs may not be entirely accurate.

[Pallid]

Mockra, on 28 January 2015 - 02:33 AM, said:

Hi folks, been obviously busy and the game has been dead. I'm here and am willing to vote myself if there is still time?

I may need to make an example out of a low poster in the upcoming days. Assuming Tellan has indeed chosen to align with me, I may heed his advice. pray my wrath passes you by.

[Mockra]

Pallid, on 28 January 2015 - 03:27 AM, said:

Mockra, on 28 January 2015 - 02:33 AM, said:

Hi folks, been obviously busy and the game has been dead. I'm here and am willing to vote myself if there is still time?

I may need to make an example out of a low poster in the upcoming days. Assuming Tellan has indeed chosen to align with me, I may heed his advice. pray my wrath passes you by.

Your wrath has been pretty useless so far, hasn't it?
I wonder what's the point of this game, no one is dying and no one is NK ing anyone. No one has reached their VC and I don't think anyone is ever close to reaching their VCs.
My major problem is that I don't even know what my VC is ...

[Korbas]

Silanah, on 27 January 2015 - 10:41 PM, said:

Pallid, on 27 January 2015 - 06:23 PM, said:

By the way, did Silanah ever admit that they were wrong about the AC, or did the topic just die down over the weekend without any significant closure?

I remain convinced my view of AC is correct to me. I align my AC operation with the resultant temperature - turn the AC up, blow heat. Turn the AC down, blow cold. I know I'm not alone as I've worked with contractors on industrial site AC and they used the same frame of reference. I accept that other people use a different frame of reference (chilled throughput) but can only conclude they've never had to work with combined industrial systems. It's totally not relevant to game but take it all out of proportion if you want.

I'm in a hotel room right now and if you turn AC up then temperature is increased.

[Venesara]

Korbas, on 28 January 2015 - 07:39 AM, said:

Silanah, on 27 January 2015 - 10:41 PM, said:

Pallid, on 27 January 2015 - 06:23 PM, said:

By the way, did Silanah ever admit that they were wrong about the AC, or did the topic just die down over the weekend without any significant closure?

I remain convinced my view of AC is correct to me. I align my AC operation with the resultant temperature - turn the AC up, blow heat. Turn the AC down, blow cold. I know I'm not alone as I've worked with contractors on industrial site AC and they used the same frame of reference. I accept that other people use a different frame of reference (chilled throughput) but can only conclude they've never had to work with combined industrial systems. It's totally not relevant to game but take it all out of proportion if you want.

I'm in a hotel room right now and if you turn AC up then temperature is increased.

Are you sure you're not just turning the thermostat up?