[Optimus Prime]

sigh, another poor attempt at humor on my part...damn you Apt.

[Aptorian]

I do my best.

[Surcease]

I'm not going to go through 43 pages of posts, so I don't know whether this "criticism" has been posted, but I've always been a little bugged by the fact that every attractive woman in Wu has to have large, perky breasts, even the more athletic ones like Apsalar. I guess that SE likes Rubenesque women, but that doesn't mean that he should fixate on this trait in his writing. I guess A-cups get no love...

Oh, and I'm a boob man myself, so it's not like it repulses me...I just think that the correlation between chest size and beauty in this series is quite unrealistic and makes it sound a bit like it's being written by a giggling teenager.

[Mcflury]

for sure there are women in the series considered beautiful with smaller breasts... didn't seren pedac have smaller breasts? So did Feather Witch I think (and Udinaas once loved her). Adjunct Tavore and Felisin also had small breasts I guess...

The thing with the bigger boobs is probably this: most females described in the books are soldiers, thus wearing armor. Now, when a small breasted girl wears armor, the boobs won't really show... where as bigger boobs won't even be hidden by armor. So off course, the females with the bigger boobs just stick out more.

And where is it stated Apsalar has big boobs? I always imagined myself Apsalar with a nice A-cup

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Mcflury;240566 said:

for sure there are women in the series considered beautiful with smaller breasts... didn't seren pedac have smaller breasts? So did Feather Witch I think (and Udinaas once loved her). Adjunct Tavore and Felisin also had small breasts I guess...

The thing with the bigger boobs is probably this: most females described in the books are soldiers, thus wearing armor. Now, when a small breasted girl wears armor, the boobs won't really show... where as bigger boobs won't even be hidden by armor. So off course, the females with the bigger boobs just stick out more.

And where is it stated Apsalar has big boobs? I always imagined myself Apsalar with a nice A-cup

I don't remember exactly where it's stated that Apsalar is well-endowed (it's obviously a lot of text to go through), but I know it was written because I was surprised by it myself, having assumed she was too athletic for that. Same with Lostara Yil, who was a shadow dancer or some such.

[Surcease]

Okay...after digging around a little, it seems that Pust's wife tells Apsalar when they're on the boat (in HoC I believe) something along the lines of "With breasts that big, they'll be hanging to you're knees when your my age". That's not a direct quote, but there's an old thread that mentions it:

http://www.malazanem...read.php?t=3150

Oh, and I'm sure that not every girl has enormous bosoms...I was more pointing out that Erikson goes out of his way to mention it whenever there is a top-heavy chick in the room.

[Optimus Prime]

****I never thought I'd see the day where people discussed and broke down the size of MBotF female characters' breasts*

I am so proud of you guys *cries*

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Xander;240671 said:

****I never thought I'd see the day where people discussed and broke down the size of MBotF female characters' breasts*

I am so proud of you guys *cries*

Hmmm...if you read my initial post, it's actually started as criticism (which is why it's in this thread)...I was just finding evidence of said criticism...in other words, I would appreciate it if you didn't imply that I'm a pervert.

Thanks.

[Optimus Prime]

Wow. I wasn't meaning to imply you were a pervert. Calm down. I meant I'd never thought I'd see people discussing in depth such a obtuse part of the books.

Maybe you should message me and ask me this, eh? I don't like being accused either.

[Mcflury]

funny how boobs in todays society still can be the cause of fights

Anyways: yes, SE does seem to be creating beautiful girls with big breasts all the time, but honoustly, the fact that they are found beautiful is always seen from someone's point of view, usually some soldier (and even heavies at that) so I guess you could say the average heavy is quite a tit-fanatic, and likes them real big (besides, let's face it... in the middle-ages (the period of time we know most reflecting the time the malazan empire lives in) women with big breasts were automatically loved better because it was thought they could take care of babies better (this is off course not true, a woman with small breasts can give just as much milk to her baby as a woman with big breasts can) ).

Even so, SE is honoust enough to put some girls in the book that are considered beautiful and that have smaller tits... okay, I can only think of one now, namely Felisin. (how do I know she has small tits? I'm guessing, because when she was in the tent with Baudin at a certain time, she offers him to just lay on her belly and then he can... well... use her thinking she's a boy... now, if a girl with big breasts lays on her belly, you still can somewhat see the breasts from the sides. So that's why I think Felisin has smaller breasts.)

[Spindrift]

where are all these enormous boob references? I only remember that heavy infantry woman's tits being mentioned. The apsalar example is sort of weak, it's the 1st mention of her's and the 3rd book she's in.

Maybe i'm not paying enough attention

[Aptorian]

Personally I always keep an eye out for the elusive crotch descriptions. thrilling.

[Bhurnae]

Aptorian;240783 said:

Personally I always keep an eye out for the elusive crotch descriptions. thrilling.

ROFL.................

[Mcflury]

yeah, that's another thing... all men who's penisses have been described in SEs books had big ones... as if smaller ones can't do the trick

[Zanth13]

Mcflury;240860 said:

yeah, that's another thing... all men who's penisses have been described in SEs books had big ones... as if smaller ones can't do the trick

I honestly have not realized that this has been portayed in the books, penis size are you serious... maybe in Bakker's book for sure, but its been in MBOTF???

[Mcflury]

aye... Rocket I believe for one likes to talk about Tehol's genitals... and at a certain point she in all honousty says it's rather large.

It's also metnioned like... a hundred times that Ublala Pung has a giant magical rod (first by the 3 sisters that came and hired Tehol for his major sceme.. and later by Shurq Ellale too)

And then you, off course, have Karsa who basically brags about his own longdong when he says he's gonna split Samar Dev in two...

(sure, Ublala and Karsa are both incredibly giant people, so offcourse the genitals are bigger too... but SE does mention it )

And I'm sure there are others described too... To be honoust, I'm more on the look-out for beautiful asses (I'm an ass-lover... I like big buts and I cannot lie ) so that's why I loved that scene in RG where I dunnow who it was again was basically using his sergeant's ass as a lightbeaken in the dark Real brilliant. (I also love tits though... but not the giant ones... I like smaller tits better...)

[Zanth13]

Mcflury;240866 said:

aye... Rocket I believe for one likes to talk about Tehol's genitals... and at a certain point she in all honousty says it's rather large.

It's also metnioned like... a hundred times that Ublala Pung has a giant magical rod (first by the 3 sisters that came and hired Tehol for his major sceme.. and later by Shurq Ellale too)

And then you, off course, have Karsa who basically brags about his own longdong when he says he's gonna split Samar Dev in two...

(sure, Ublala and Karsa are both incredibly giant people, so offcourse the genitals are bigger too... but SE does mention it )

And I'm sure there are others described too... To be honoust, I'm more on the look-out for beautiful asses (I'm an ass-lover... I like big buts and I cannot lie ) so that's why I loved that scene in RG where I dunnow who it was again was basically using his sergeant's ass as a lightbeaken in the dark Real brilliant. (I also love tits though... but not the giant ones... I like smaller tits better...)

true thanks for learning me
cant believe I forgot about Ubala....though I have no sympathy for his plight, though I can relate

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Spindrift;240781 said:

where are all these enormous boob references? I only remember that heavy infantry woman's tits being mentioned. The apsalar example is sort of weak, it's the 1st mention of her's and the 3rd book she's in.

Maybe i'm not paying enough attention

I didn't mean to imply that there were legions of top heavy roaming the countryside, and I'm not going to go through and compile a "breast quote" archive, but the next time you do a re-read, pay attention and you'll likely notice more of them.

It's true that the Apsalar reference isn't an in-depth description, but if you noticed, there are actually relatively few physical descriptions in Erikson's novels, apart from height, skin color, and sometimes clothing (oh, and for women, bust size, of course).

Oh, and regarding mention of the bits between a man's legs, in RG someone tells Smiles that Crump (the Mott idiot) is hung, at which point she suddenly becomes very interested...

[Illuyankas]

I think it was Gilani, actually. Told by Cord, I think. Smiles was after Skulldeath.

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Illuyankas;240942 said:

I think it was Gilani, actually. Told by Cord, I think. Smiles was after Skulldeath.

Of course you're right...Smiles is turned on by killing machines, not tripods...thanks for correcting me...