[Meanas]

Anthras, on 16 September 2014 - 05:30 PM, said:

Meanas, on 16 September 2014 - 05:25 PM, said:

Bendal Home, on 16 September 2014 - 05:00 PM, said:

I do hope everyone realizes this, but the only thing we can confirm or reject by lynching Fanderay is the reveal of his new CF.

While it's tempting to check that, it might be a distraction to keep us from lynching one of his roled associates. At least we have a suspicion of where Fanderay stands.

So,

Vote Iparth

Well if you think that keeping members of a cult alive so that they can build up more members while we try to find the recruiter is a good idea stand up. Eventually they will have enough members to drive a train on those of us who aren't yet cult members and win. Personally I would rather lynch cult and keep them down. But hey you lot have been a brilliant brain trust so far. Aren't you all glad I am back.

Recruiting passes down the ranks does it not? Therefore Fanderay is not a good target to go for to lynch yet. Take out the master. A known recruit Fanderay inherits the recruit. Lynch Fanderay.

Who is the master? I do not think that Iparth is the master. If he is then he has played a horrible game by being so tied to the person that he recruited. I agree lets take out the master? Anyone stepping up to say that they are the master? No oh well then lets lynch a known and professed cult member in order to keep there numbers down.

[Fanderay]

Well the only person I believe strongly to be a leader is Okaros.

I will put my vote there

Vote okaros

[Iparth Erule]

Meanas, on 16 September 2014 - 05:33 PM, said:

Yeah lets take a look at that shall we.

Iparth Erule, on 16 September 2014 - 05:00 PM, said:

Meanas, on 16 September 2014 - 04:01 PM, said:

Well I obviously care about what you think. Why are you attempting to counter deflect off of someone who it looks like they made a mistake and revealed that they aren't a noble. It think that it is obvious that Nobles are the largest faction or at least started out as the largest faction. Why else would Tapper have put there role in as one does a RI role. Therefore anyone who betray knowledge or lack of knowledge of something that doesn't sit with them being in the noble faction is obviously not a Noble and therefore should be lynched by everyone in the noble faction. So if you belong to a smaller faction and want to hide in the bigger faction until you can recruit them you pretend to be noble. For people who don't or who don't try they should be lynched. It seems very straight forward to me.


I don't bother with looking at why a NK happened. It is a waste of time and nothing but WIFOM anyway. As for drawing a target. I don't give a shit. From what I have read over the last couple of game days. There has been a bunch of posturing and not very much poking. Yesterday there seems to have been only one lynch target. After the lynch switched on day 1. There was no attempt to go back and attempt to lynch either one of the two possibles before the switch. Obviously that switched happened for a reason. The most likely reason is that someone deflected off of a KNOWN partner and then managed to throw Gait under the bus.

Here is an idea why do you think that Fanderay thought that one faction was eliminated?

I was not saying I believe Fanderay is a part of the Independent Nobility, I specifically said I do not believe you are a part of them. Because any member of the IN would quickly realize that it's in their best interests to act like they are anything but.

Even if IN started with a voting majority (which I pointed out fisrt) there is no guarantee that they still have it or that they will have it tomorrow, it would be in the best interests of them to not be known on thread so that they would be able to benefit from the remaining neutral on thread and try to obliterate other factions by manipulating Faction A's members to lynch faction B's members and so on.

I do think what you called out about Fanderay is a good point, What I dislike about your post is your blatant posturing and how you declare that you're part of the IN. I was not trying to derail the Fanderay lynch anyway.

The other point about Fanderay that people raised (me attacking him and then siding with him) is a meta thing. I think I have him alted and I'm just trying to get a rise out of him, that doesn't mean I want to lose the game over it, thus when he raised a decent point about Lock on Day2 I voted with him, and there really was no other candidate on Day1 was there?

Iparth Erule, on 16 September 2014 - 05:26 PM, said:

Meanas, on 16 September 2014 - 05:19 PM, said:

There where actually two candidates on day 1 before the switch to Gait. Fanderay and Arantha. One had 3 votes and the other had 4 votes when the switch was made. Both were just as good of an option as Gait based on just has hard reasoning as his lynch.

As for drawing a target. I am an RI (as all players will say) how exactly else am I suppose to fucking play the game unless it is through making myself a target and putting pressure on people. So yeah I am making myself a target. Why hasn't everybody been doing that?

As for my point. You didn't agree with it you said that I was suspicious for making it. So bullshit on that explanation. Try again.

Errm, no. Do not strawman bastard.

Iparth Erule, on 16 September 2014 - 03:16 PM, said:

I like the idea of retaliatory NK, it fits well. I also believe that the cult at least have one more member remaining, because it would be too naive to assume that Lock did nothing on night 1. The way he rolled over and gave up also reinforces this belief.

I also do not like Meanas voting for Fanderay one little bit. It seems like he is revealing as Independent Nobility which I find suspicious, no one would draw a target on their back just like that.

Thanks for pointing out that you in fact said absolutely nothing about the vote or my reasons for voting for Fanderay. Instead you only pointed out that you didn't like me for voting for him because why would a Noble do that.

SO yeah there is no strawmanning going on. Just you attempting to back slide and say that you did think that Fanderay was suspicious. When you didn't say anything about it. So try again please.

Are you dense?

It seems like he is revealing as independent nobility which I find suspicious.

This is what I said. I believe a member of the independent nobility wouldn't come out and fucking say it. No that a member wouldn't vote him.

No , I didn't say anything about your reasons for voting Fanderay because that wasn't the point of the post, I couldn't care less about why you voted him. I cared about how you voted him and allied yourself with IN at the same time. I think anything in the order of primates would understand what I'm saying.

[Nimander Golit]

Anthras, on 16 September 2014 - 05:14 PM, said:

Fanderay, on 16 September 2014 - 04:16 PM, said:

First off there are recruiters. I was recruited last night. I'm not going to say who I'm with now, but it pains me to do it, I'm going to give the info of where I was. I was teamed up with Jalan. we were German, and we killed Cast last night.

I'm pretty sure Okaros is our leader. His signal was very easy to see. Ze enlightenment.

I'm kinda pissed. We were doing well I thought as a team.

Why didn't you kill on Night 1?

Vote Jalan

Because Fanderay claims he shared a NK with him. Jalan, will you back up Fanderays claims? Do you still have a NK? Does Fanderay?

If what Fanderay says is true, then Jalan cannot kill tonight if he still retains the ability. So if we choose to believe that, then our focus should be on lynching elsewhere as Jalan is currently - for tonight at least - not a danger to anyone.

As I said, I'd still like to hear from Okaros and Jalan.

[Path-Shaper]

12 alive, 7 to lynch, 6 for night.
There's ehm, 10 hours and 21 minutes left. I think. Which means I won't be awake to resolve.


1 vote Fanderay (Meanas)
2 votes for Iparth (Okaros, Bendal Home)
1 vote for Jalan (Anthras)
1 vote for Okaros (Fanderay)

No-one else has voted (or I am blind).

[Emurlahn]

What in the holy fuck happened to this thread in the last 3 hours?!

Subtlety? What's FUCK THAT!

[Anthras]

Emurlahn, on 16 September 2014 - 05:51 PM, said:

What in the holy fuck happened to this thread in the last 3 hours?!

Subtlety? What's FUCK THAT!

Seems to be becomming a bit of a feature.

[Meanas]

Iparth Erule, on 16 September 2014 - 05:39 PM, said:

Meanas, on 16 September 2014 - 05:33 PM, said:

Yeah lets take a look at that shall we.

Iparth Erule, on 16 September 2014 - 05:00 PM, said:

Meanas, on 16 September 2014 - 04:01 PM, said:

Well I obviously care about what you think. Why are you attempting to counter deflect off of someone who it looks like they made a mistake and revealed that they aren't a noble. It think that it is obvious that Nobles are the largest faction or at least started out as the largest faction. Why else would Tapper have put there role in as one does a RI role. Therefore anyone who betray knowledge or lack of knowledge of something that doesn't sit with them being in the noble faction is obviously not a Noble and therefore should be lynched by everyone in the noble faction. So if you belong to a smaller faction and want to hide in the bigger faction until you can recruit them you pretend to be noble. For people who don't or who don't try they should be lynched. It seems very straight forward to me.


I don't bother with looking at why a NK happened. It is a waste of time and nothing but WIFOM anyway. As for drawing a target. I don't give a shit. From what I have read over the last couple of game days. There has been a bunch of posturing and not very much poking. Yesterday there seems to have been only one lynch target. After the lynch switched on day 1. There was no attempt to go back and attempt to lynch either one of the two possibles before the switch. Obviously that switched happened for a reason. The most likely reason is that someone deflected off of a KNOWN partner and then managed to throw Gait under the bus.

Here is an idea why do you think that Fanderay thought that one faction was eliminated?

I was not saying I believe Fanderay is a part of the Independent Nobility, I specifically said I do not believe you are a part of them. Because any member of the IN would quickly realize that it's in their best interests to act like they are anything but.

Even if IN started with a voting majority (which I pointed out fisrt) there is no guarantee that they still have it or that they will have it tomorrow, it would be in the best interests of them to not be known on thread so that they would be able to benefit from the remaining neutral on thread and try to obliterate other factions by manipulating Faction A's members to lynch faction B's members and so on.

I do think what you called out about Fanderay is a good point, What I dislike about your post is your blatant posturing and how you declare that you're part of the IN. I was not trying to derail the Fanderay lynch anyway.

The other point about Fanderay that people raised (me attacking him and then siding with him) is a meta thing. I think I have him alted and I'm just trying to get a rise out of him, that doesn't mean I want to lose the game over it, thus when he raised a decent point about Lock on Day2 I voted with him, and there really was no other candidate on Day1 was there?

Iparth Erule, on 16 September 2014 - 05:26 PM, said:

Meanas, on 16 September 2014 - 05:19 PM, said:

There where actually two candidates on day 1 before the switch to Gait. Fanderay and Arantha. One had 3 votes and the other had 4 votes when the switch was made. Both were just as good of an option as Gait based on just has hard reasoning as his lynch.

As for drawing a target. I am an RI (as all players will say) how exactly else am I suppose to fucking play the game unless it is through making myself a target and putting pressure on people. So yeah I am making myself a target. Why hasn't everybody been doing that?

As for my point. You didn't agree with it you said that I was suspicious for making it. So bullshit on that explanation. Try again.

Errm, no. Do not strawman bastard.

Iparth Erule, on 16 September 2014 - 03:16 PM, said:

I like the idea of retaliatory NK, it fits well. I also believe that the cult at least have one more member remaining, because it would be too naive to assume that Lock did nothing on night 1. The way he rolled over and gave up also reinforces this belief.

I also do not like Meanas voting for Fanderay one little bit. It seems like he is revealing as Independent Nobility which I find suspicious, no one would draw a target on their back just like that.

Thanks for pointing out that you in fact said absolutely nothing about the vote or my reasons for voting for Fanderay. Instead you only pointed out that you didn't like me for voting for him because why would a Noble do that.

SO yeah there is no strawmanning going on. Just you attempting to back slide and say that you did think that Fanderay was suspicious. When you didn't say anything about it. So try again please.

Are you dense?

It seems like he is revealing as independent nobility which I find suspicious.

This is what I said. I believe a member of the independent nobility wouldn't come out and fucking say it. No that a member wouldn't vote him.

No , I didn't say anything about your reasons for voting Fanderay because that wasn't the point of the post, I couldn't care less about why you voted him. I cared about how you voted him and allied yourself with IN at the same time. I think anything in the order of primates would understand what I'm saying.

Honestly are you just a fucking moron or where you recently diagnosed with a brain turmor that has made all of your thoughts into popcorn. Of course I am going to say that I am a IN. You should question anytime anyone doesn't say that they are a IN. It is blindly obvious that the IN are basically the RI of the game. Yes we are a faction but the only thing we have in our favor is our numbers. Thus it is smart for everyone to imply that they are a IN even if they aren't. Your suspicious that I claimed to be IN, Are you fucking high?

[Iparth Erule]

Meanas, on 16 September 2014 - 06:26 PM, said:

Honestly are you just a fucking moron or where you recently diagnosed with a brain turmor that has made all of your thoughts into popcorn. Of course I am going to say that I am a IN. You should question anytime anyone doesn't say that they are a IN. It is blindly obvious that the IN are basically the RI of the game. Yes we are a faction but the only thing we have in our favor is our numbers. Thus it is smart for everyone to imply that they are a IN even if they aren't. Your suspicious that I claimed to be IN, Are you fucking high?

A) Shorten the damn quotes fucktard, they make the thread unreadable.

B)I don't expect mentally handicapped people to understand this, but a brain tumor doesn't magically reduce someone's IQ, if that's what your doctor told you, he is trying to spare your feelings. Do not believe him.

C)Something that is so blindingly obvious to you doesn't seem so to me, because the factions we have already encountered are:
1)Lock and his Rosetta faction which the scene leads us to believe have no recruits.
2)Fanderay+ His leader + unknown night 1 recruit.
3)Jalan+ their leader

That's voting majority taken off IN's hand, and that's if we assume we know all the factions present already.

[Meanas]

Iparth Erule, on 16 September 2014 - 06:37 PM, said:

Meanas, on 16 September 2014 - 06:26 PM, said:

Honestly are you just a fucking moron or where you recently diagnosed with a brain turmor that has made all of your thoughts into popcorn. Of course I am going to say that I am a IN. You should question anytime anyone doesn't say that they are a IN. It is blindly obvious that the IN are basically the RI of the game. Yes we are a faction but the only thing we have in our favor is our numbers. Thus it is smart for everyone to imply that they are a IN even if they aren't. Your suspicious that I claimed to be IN, Are you fucking high?

A) Shorten the damn quotes fucktard, they make the thread unreadable.

B)I don't expect mentally handicapped people to understand this, but a brain tumor doesn't magically reduce someone's IQ, if that's what your doctor told you, he is trying to spare your feelings. Do not believe him.

C)Something that is so blindingly obvious to you doesn't seem so to me, because the factions we have already encountered are:
1)Lock and his Rosetta faction which the scene leads us to believe have no recruits.
2)Fanderay+ His leader + unknown night 1 recruit.
3)Jalan+ their leader

That's voting majority taken off IN's hand, and that's if we assume we know all the factions present already.

Now who is blindlying trusting Fanderay and his on thread reveals.

This is what we do know

Fanderay revealed that he is cult. Now he has said that he was recruited we know nothing else.

Fanderay said that Jalan was his partner. Fanderay said that he thought that Okaros was their leader.

Lock like to use Rosetta stone to learn differnet languages and it ended up killing him. (Only confirmed different CF)

So conjecture aside I am assuming that we still have a majority. But having lost 2 members you are correct we may not. Regardless. Once your doctor gets done with your brain tumer removal and you get off of the harder core stoke medication. Perhaps you can figure out that since Tapper put the IH role in the op of the thread that is what people will claim to be and what you should expect them to claim to be. To do otherwise is fucking stupid. You know like when you mom decided to breed with her bother or as you call him your dad.

[Meanas]

Quick question on a side note.


When you saw the episode of True detective with the brother/sister scene where you grossed out or did it remind you of home?

[Hentos Ilm]

Oh holy hell. I see things finally got interesting

[Hentos Ilm]

Overall I think Im leaning towards Fanderay as I think that would clear the most things up in one shot. With him throwing so many things out on thread we will have more leads as to where to look tomorrow depending on the lynch info. He is a self proclaimed cult member, which if its true is always a good lynch choice even if he isnt a top tier member. The only thing that makes me hesitant is that he really seems to think that getting himself lynched is beneficial to the cult. Now this could be true because he just gave them a shit ton of info with his dump on thread. Or it could be for some other reason. I still think the pros outweigh the cons at the moment.

Vote Fanderay

[Iparth Erule]

Meanas, on 16 September 2014 - 06:56 PM, said:

Iparth Erule, on 16 September 2014 - 06:37 PM, said:

Meanas, on 16 September 2014 - 06:26 PM, said:

Honestly are you just a fucking moron or where you recently diagnosed with a brain turmor that has made all of your thoughts into popcorn. Of course I am going to say that I am a IN. You should question anytime anyone doesn't say that they are a IN. It is blindly obvious that the IN are basically the RI of the game. Yes we are a faction but the only thing we have in our favor is our numbers. Thus it is smart for everyone to imply that they are a IN even if they aren't. Your suspicious that I claimed to be IN, Are you fucking high?

A) Shorten the damn quotes fucktard, they make the thread unreadable.

B)I don't expect mentally handicapped people to understand this, but a brain tumor doesn't magically reduce someone's IQ, if that's what your doctor told you, he is trying to spare your feelings. Do not believe him.

C)Something that is so blindingly obvious to you doesn't seem so to me, because the factions we have already encountered are:
1)Lock and his Rosetta faction which the scene leads us to believe have no recruits.
2)Fanderay+ His leader + unknown night 1 recruit.
3)Jalan+ their leader

That's voting majority taken off IN's hand, and that's if we assume we know all the factions present already.

Now who is blindlying trusting Fanderay and his on thread reveals.

This is what we do know

Fanderay revealed that he is cult. Now he has said that he was recruited we know nothing else.

Fanderay said that Jalan was his partner. Fanderay said that he thought that Okaros was their leader.

Lock like to use Rosetta stone to learn differnet languages and it ended up killing him. (Only confirmed different CF)

So conjecture aside I am assuming that we still have a majority. But having lost 2 members you are correct we may not. Regardless. Once your doctor gets done with your brain tumer removal and you get off of the harder core stoke medication. Perhaps you can figure out that since Tapper put the IH role in the op of the thread that is what people will claim to be and what you should expect them to claim to be. To do otherwise is fucking stupid. You know like when you mom decided to breed with her bother or as you call him your dad.

I expect someone calling another person stupid to at least use correct punctuation when you put a full stop somewhere that means you have finished your sentence you use a comma to add another clause to the sentence

I also cannot help but believe that anyone throwing such accusations around must be speaking from experience these things would not occur to a healthy mind in a million years Did you perhaps have a bigger brother who did bad things to you when nobody was home or were you a big brother who wanted to do bad things to his little brother

On a side not Im waiting for Jalan to come online and comment

[Iparth Erule]

Meanas, on 16 September 2014 - 07:00 PM, said:

Quick question on a side note.


When you saw the episode of True detective with the brother/sister scene where you grossed out or did it remind you of home?

I never watched true detective but that scene and the whole premises you describe make obvious the kind of man that you are Also yumm could they have found a more disgusting couple of actors

[Meanas]

Iparth Erule, on 16 September 2014 - 07:17 PM, said:

I expect someone calling another person stupid to at least use correct punctuation when you put a full stop somewhere that means you have finished your sentence you use a comma to add another clause to the sentence

I also cannot help but believe that anyone throwing such accusations around must be speaking from experience these things would not occur to a healthy mind in a million years Did you perhaps have a bigger brother who did bad things to you when nobody was home or were you a big brother who wanted to do bad things to his little brother

On a side not Im waiting for Jalan to come online and comment

puncuwhat?

I am just a well rounded individual with a healthy imagination, and a liking of the macabre. I did attempt to kill my little brother 4-5 times as we where growing up. That is only counting the attempts that where actually serious.

[Meanas]

Iparth Erule, on 16 September 2014 - 07:20 PM, said:

Meanas, on 16 September 2014 - 07:00 PM, said:

Quick question on a side note.


When you saw the episode of True detective with the brother/sister scene where you grossed out or did it remind you of home?

I never watched true detective, but that scene and the whole premises you describe make obvious the kind of man that you are. Also, ungh, could they have found a more disgusting couple of actors?

Watch True detective before you judge. It was a fucking awesome show. I mean unless it brings up bad memories of your childhood and the things that your sister/mother/aunt did to you.

[Bendal Home]

Meanas, on 16 September 2014 - 05:36 PM, said:

Who is the master? I do not think that Iparth is the master. If he is then he has played a horrible game by being so tied to the person that he recruited. I agree lets take out the master? Anyone stepping up to say that they are the master? No oh well then lets lynch a known and professed cult member in order to keep there numbers down.

So you're saying that they would not have tried to distances themselves from each other if they really would have reason to distance themselves from each other? Even you stated that you had the impression that they deflecting attention away from each other.

Meanas, on 16 September 2014 - 04:30 PM, said:

Iparth attempting to deflect off of Fanderay. (so not a noble either)

And you were not the only one:

Nimander Golit, on 16 September 2014 - 04:10 PM, said:

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I'm actually thinking of making a case on Iparth and Fanderay. From the very beginning Iparth was attacking Fanderay - but each time Iparth has been 'mollified' into voting elsewhere despite their threats of really disliking Fanderay. Now today they immediately criticise Meanas for voting Fanderay? It would have struck me that Iparth would surely like another reason to vote Fanderay. But in fact they've always in the end found a reason not to vote that way.


Stinks of attempted distancing between the two to me.

Dejim Nebrahl, on 16 September 2014 - 04:25 PM, said:

Fanderay, on 16 September 2014 - 04:16 PM, said:

In real life I hate what I'm going to do right now. Only because I had never been teamed up with this one person. Sorry XXXX.

The timing on this post is Tappers fault I might add. I think he was to busy puking to resolve all the night actions.

First off there are recruiters. I was recruited last night. I'm not going to say who I'm with now, but it pains me to do it, I'm going to give the info of where I was. I was teamed up with Jalan. we were German, and we killed Cast last night.

I'm pretty sure Okaros is our leader. His signal was very easy to see. Ze enlightenment.

I'm kinda pissed. We were doing well I thought as a team.

So why are you telling us this? It certainly looks like an attempt to deflect attention from Iparth.

Again, someone notes that this might be an attempt to deflect attention away from Iparth.

Fanderay, on 16 September 2014 - 05:12 PM, said:

Iparth Erule, on 16 September 2014 - 05:00 PM, said:

The other point about Fanderay that people raised (me attacking him and then siding with him) is a meta thing. I think I have him alted and I'm just trying to get a rise out of him, that doesn't mean I want to lose the game over it, thus when he raised a decent point about Lock on Day2 I voted with him, and there really was no other candidate on Day1 was there?

Ironically you were our target for a night kill. (just to get on your list) We changed to Cast at the last minute because of the vote shift you did. I figured I could build a case on you with it today and get you lynched.

And then they followed it up with this conversation, again trying to distance themselves, even if it the implied distances lies before Fanderay became a cultist.

Fanderay, on 16 September 2014 - 04:25 PM, said:

My lynch will confirm what I just said. It will actually help my new team I think.

Fanderay, on 16 September 2014 - 04:29 PM, said:

Dejim Nebrahl, on 16 September 2014 - 04:28 PM, said:

And how does you getting lynched help your new team?

My new CF.

Sure, dumping info when you think you're doomed is going to help your team.

What I don't understand is why you claim that your CF is going to help your team, besides it potentially giving a false sense of credibility to your reveal to derail the lynching process (as stated, the CF will not confirm nor reject anything anything but the claimed CF)

So why would lynching help your team? Could it be that us lynching you would mean you've succeeded in drawing away attention from your master?

So, for now, my vote stays where it is, the person you're so desperately distancing yourself from. It probably stays there, too, unless I experience a sudden attack of insomnia.

[Nimander Golit]

Okay, so where are we at?


I'm seeing cult hunt vs culture hunt. If everything revealed thus far is true, we have a cult member we know (Fanderay) and we have a member of a hurting faction that we know (Jalan), and possibly another member of that faction in Okaros (and then possibly Iparth as well).

While the instinct is to stifle the cult as quickly as possible, it's also tempting to kill off the faction that I know will always be a rival to me (which cannot necessarily be said of the cult).


Thoughts? Ultimately I don't think any of these individuals will last much longer, but where to go first - cult or culture?

[Fanderay]

Bendal Home, on 16 September 2014 - 08:55 PM, said:

Sure, dumping info when you think you're doomed is going to help your team.

What I don't understand is why you claim that your CF is going to help your team, besides it potentially giving a false sense of credibility to your reveal to derail the lynching process (as stated, the CF will not confirm nor reject anything anything but the claimed CF)

So why would lynching help your team? Could it be that us lynching you would mean you've succeeded in drawing away attention from your master?

So, for now, my vote stays where it is, the person you're so desperately distancing yourself from. It probably stays there, too, unless I experience a sudden attack of insomnia.

Look I'm going to make this easy for you.

remove vote

vote Iparth

My lynch dickbreath would show I have been recruited away from my german team. do you get!!!!!