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Mafia 115 - Dresden 3.something

#2341 User is offline   Kedeviss 

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 07:54 PM

View PostTelas, on 20 August 2014 - 07:44 PM, said:

TIam what is your role? I want to trust you and I feel that you may be on to something with Tellan. But I want to know what your role is?


He has never outright said he is HWWBefore because he's annoying like that, but:

a - Korvalain said Tiam was HeWhoWalksBefore
b - Tiam has said that Korvalain (HWWBehind) and Korbas (HWWBeside) were his alternate alts and that he absorbed powers from them
c - Tiam talks just like Korvalain (Tatts) and Korbas (Tatts again) did

So even a very light application of occam's razor would suggest Tatts is playing the three walkers and Tiam is HWWBefore.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 07:54 PM

View PostKedeviss, on 20 August 2014 - 07:47 PM, said:

View PostTiamatha, on 20 August 2014 - 07:40 PM, said:



If Tellan was unlynchable why did he not try this alliance earlier? A way to become unlynchable is to gather a voting block. He was never tested.

As to his being the voice of the thread? Have we seen that?


As far as on-thread info goes, they never ended up joining up. Tellan has basically continued playing as an independent beyond that.

And nope, the unlynchable was never tested, but same goes for many. Haven't test whether you are unlynchable today or not yet, either, regardless of whether you were day 3. Even if Tellan is Vittorio (seems the most likely to me) you are still HWWB. Thematically I'd see an Outsider as the greater threat, and either of you can be the person who killed Billy, so both options are just as good. If you don't get lynched today at L+2, then I plan to switch to Tellan.



If he is vitto (I suspect you saying this because you are Vitto but think the thread wants the vamp gone) then you are Shark face or mark. I suspect Tellan of being Shark Face and you of being Vitto.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 07:54 PM

View PostTiamatha, on 20 August 2014 - 07:52 PM, said:

View PostTelas, on 20 August 2014 - 07:44 PM, said:

TIam what is your role? I want to trust you and I feel that you may be on to something with Tellan. But I want to know what your role is?


I am He Who Walks Before

Not Shark Face.


Ha, xpost!

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 07:56 PM

View PostTiamatha, on 20 August 2014 - 07:51 PM, said:

How does Kedeviss know what he knows?


Depends on which info. Some stuff I know from my role PM, some stuff I know from abilities, some stuff I know because a little faerie told me, some stuff I weaseled out of PS, some stuff is just educated speculation, etc

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 07:57 PM

View PostTiamatha, on 20 August 2014 - 07:54 PM, said:

View PostKedeviss, on 20 August 2014 - 07:47 PM, said:

View PostTiamatha, on 20 August 2014 - 07:40 PM, said:



If Tellan was unlynchable why did he not try this alliance earlier? A way to become unlynchable is to gather a voting block. He was never tested.

As to his being the voice of the thread? Have we seen that?


As far as on-thread info goes, they never ended up joining up. Tellan has basically continued playing as an independent beyond that.

And nope, the unlynchable was never tested, but same goes for many. Haven't test whether you are unlynchable today or not yet, either, regardless of whether you were day 3. Even if Tellan is Vittorio (seems the most likely to me) you are still HWWB. Thematically I'd see an Outsider as the greater threat, and either of you can be the person who killed Billy, so both options are just as good. If you don't get lynched today at L+2, then I plan to switch to Tellan.



If he is vitto (I suspect you saying this because you are Vitto but think the thread wants the vamp gone) then you are Shark face or mark. I suspect Tellan of being Shark Face and you of being Vitto.


It makes less and less sense every time you say it.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 07:58 PM

View PostTelas, on 20 August 2014 - 07:44 PM, said:

TIam what is your role? I want to trust you and I feel that you may be on to something with Tellan. But I want to know what your role is?
Sent 11 August 2014 - 08:38 AM
You are:

Tiamatha: He Who Walks Before
Korbas: He Who Walks Beside
Korvalain: He Who Walks Behind

Tiamatha - He Who Walks Before

Tiamatha is always out ahead, and therefore is unable to be lynched.

Tiamatha has no day actions

I'm not giving you what I absorbed or what my night actions are even though I have given you then most days. I'm not a threat. I cannot kill. Or recruit.

Seriously.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 08:05 PM

He Who Walks Before is a Walker which Harry Dresden nicknames Sharkface. He is first seen Cold Days.


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Sharkface is a Walker from the Outside, part of the plot to free the monsters—Naagloshii and the Dark Gods—imprisoned underneath Demonreach. (ref?)

When it first entered McAnally's Pub, it appeared like a giant rag ball similar to what is used in a carwash, only spherical in shape as it rolled him creating havoc. When it stood up, it appeared to be humanoid in shape, tall, lanky and covered in a garment made of strips of rags. It was tall enough to hit the ceiling fans, It didn't have any eyes, only smooth skin where they once were, It had pearly skin with stripes like on a shark. Its mouth gaped open minus teeth with a bone ridge where they would be on a human. Its lips were black and black drool dripped down to its chin. It didn't have any hair.[1]

It is also known as "Gatebreaker", "Harbinger", "Feargiver", and "Hopeslayer".[2]

Harry Dresden describes his power as "not greataer than Mab. But it is horribly, unbearably deeper that hers".[2] He is capable of launching an intense wave of despair which he loves using.[1][2] It can sense the world without eyes, which he does not have.[1] He can split into multiple identical shapes.[3]

The rag strips on his cloak can defect bullets and grab to surfaces. They can even separate off the main garment and seemingly of their own volition, pick up furniture and throw it with superhuman force.[1]

He is the general of the Outsiders on the barges.[3]

#2348 User is offline   Tiamatha 

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 08:07 PM

Yes Telas. But in this game there is a Shark face and there is me.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 08:09 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 18 August 2014 - 01:42 PM, said:

Kessobahn finds an escape in the Underground Pool!

As he tries to work his way through the small hole, he is absolutely destroyed by what looks like a giant, ragged cloak. His body is torn to shreds.

The phantasmal (and orgasmal) dragon appears again and says 'Wrong choice, Billy Borden. Khellendros has been eliminated.



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Posted 20 August 2014 - 08:10 PM

View PostTiamatha, on 20 August 2014 - 07:58 PM, said:

View PostTelas, on 20 August 2014 - 07:44 PM, said:

TIam what is your role? I want to trust you and I feel that you may be on to something with Tellan. But I want to know what your role is?
Sent 11 August 2014 - 08:38 AM
You are:

Tiamatha: He Who Walks Before
Korbas: He Who Walks Beside
Korvalain: He Who Walks Behind

Tiamatha - He Who Walks Before

Tiamatha is always out ahead, and therefore is unable to be lynched.

Tiamatha has no day actions

I'm not giving you what I absorbed or what my night actions are even though I have given you then most days. I'm not a threat. I cannot kill. Or recruit.

Seriously.


So Tiam, how were you supposed to win then? By your own admission and expectations, you need to kill at least 3, but more likely 5 or more specific players, in order to win. Even more if the cult recruits a lot. How, with so many lynch-proofs and no kill abilities given to you whatsoever, is your claimed role supposed to even work?

Granted, my role is not exactly as smoothly linked as tile floors in dubai, but even on day 1 I could see how some of my abilities and my clue guess tied into my VCs, and I didn't even know how escapes worked then.

But you're saying that the only way for you to achieve your VCs was for your trio of Outsiders to get the whole rest of the game to trust you enough that they help you lynch the lynchable targets on your list and then vig/kill the other targets on your list out of the goodness of their hearts? That just doesn't sound like a believable role. No one would trust a whole trio of outsiders, so you'd never have a prayer of achieving those supposed VCs if you are really as pacifist as you claim.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 08:10 PM

View PostTiamatha, on 20 August 2014 - 08:07 PM, said:

Yes Telas. But in this game there is a Shark face and there is me.


So your saying that obdigore put in two of the same character into a game that seems to be mad up of minor characters from the series. Why that makes total sense.

#2352 User is offline   Tiamatha 

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 08:10 PM

View PostTelas, on 20 August 2014 - 08:09 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 18 August 2014 - 01:42 PM, said:

Kessobahn finds an escape in the Underground Pool!

As he tries to work his way through the small hole, he is absolutely destroyed by what looks like a giant, ragged cloak. His body is torn to shreds.

The phantasmal (and orgasmal) dragon appears again and says 'Wrong choice, Billy Borden. Khellendros has been eliminated.


VC:
You enjoy playing with mortals, and find other outsiders and people with power annoying. Once the following are dead, you win:
1) Dragon
2) Dragon Cult
3) MacAnally
4) Shark-Face

You may not return after winning, as it bores you.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 08:12 PM

View PostTelas, on 20 August 2014 - 08:10 PM, said:

View PostTiamatha, on 20 August 2014 - 08:07 PM, said:

Yes Telas. But in this game there is a Shark face and there is me.


So your saying that obdigore put in two of the same character into a game that seems to be mad up of minor characters from the series. Why that makes total sense.

He comes up on my roles find.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 08:13 PM

STOP MAKING THE THREAD UNFUCKING READABLE.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 08:13 PM

View PostTelas, on 20 August 2014 - 08:09 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 18 August 2014 - 01:42 PM, said:

Kessobahn finds an escape in the Underground Pool!

As he tries to work his way through the small hole, he is absolutely destroyed by what looks like a giant, ragged cloak. His body is torn to shreds.

The phantasmal (and orgasmal) dragon appears again and says 'Wrong choice, Billy Borden. Khellendros has been eliminated.




Deja Vu...

We talked about this yesterday. General consensus was that it could be either Vittorio or Sharkface - both have cloaks/rags and both can induce despair. Personally, I have a bit of a reason to believe that it is Vittorio rather than Sharkface who stops the escapes, but I don't know for sure.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 08:16 PM

View PostOsseric, on 20 August 2014 - 08:13 PM, said:

STOP MAKING THE THREAD UNFUCKING READABLE.


Get fucking caught up before you post! Having an actual discussion.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 08:16 PM

View PostTiamatha, on 20 August 2014 - 08:10 PM, said:

View PostTelas, on 20 August 2014 - 08:09 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 18 August 2014 - 01:42 PM, said:

Kessobahn finds an escape in the Underground Pool!

As he tries to work his way through the small hole, he is absolutely destroyed by what looks like a giant, ragged cloak. His body is torn to shreds.

The phantasmal (and orgasmal) dragon appears again and says 'Wrong choice, Billy Borden. Khellendros has been eliminated.


VC:
You enjoy playing with mortals, and find other outsiders and people with power annoying. Once the following are dead, you win:
1) Dragon
2) Dragon Cult
3) MacAnally
4) Shark-Face

You may not return after winning, as it bores you.


Oh yeah, I forgot to point this out last time. Here is a post from Tiam way earlier, before he had been tested I think:


View PostTiamatha, on 12 August 2014 - 09:01 AM, said:

Once the following are dead, you win:
1) Dragon
2) Dragon Cult
3) Shark-Face

You may not return after winning, as it bores you.



At some point he added in MacAnally as #3 and moved Shark-Face to #4. Doesn't really mean much in and of itself, but goes to show you that he is changing his supposed claimed role on us as he sees fit.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 08:17 PM

View PostOsseric, on 20 August 2014 - 08:13 PM, said:

STOP MAKING THE THREAD UNFUCKING READABLE.

Who cares what you think.

Toot toot.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 08:18 PM

While following Vitto using a tracking spell and Little Chicago, Harry witnessed him meeting someone in a park, later identified as Madrigal Raith.[4] Then Harry follows him thru Undertown and witnesses him communicating with Cowl thus tying him to the “Black Council” conspiracy. [2]

Harry and Carlos Ramirez challenged Vittorio and Madrigal Raith to a duel for killing members of the magical community.[5] It took place during a White Court summit in the Deeps on the Raith Estate[6] that devolved into a massive battle,[7] during which it was revealed that Vittorio was possessed by an Outsider, and was assisted by Cowl in attacking Harry.[8] The conclusion of the battle involved Harry blowing everything to kingdom come, presumably including Vittorio.[9]

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 08:19 PM

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