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Mafia 115 - Dresden 3.something

#2321 User is offline   Tiamatha 

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 06:16 PM

View PostTennes, on 15 August 2014 - 02:11 PM, said:

Personally I'm more into a Tellan or a Togg vote given how we have another unlynchable (Fant) cluttering up thread. If anyone uses the "you nearly got lynched yesterday, we need to lynch you today" bullshit I'm going to point out this game. The 1000 posts of babble (sorry Inane) are stopping me remembering why.

Dragon, I want my vote removed.

Dragon, I want Tellan Gone!


I'm around for a short time and will check in again before EoD. Hell, I can't even remember why no-one wants to lynch Osseric, can someone remind me please?


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Posted 20 August 2014 - 06:18 PM

View PostKorabas, on 15 August 2014 - 04:10 PM, said:

Had a long impromptu meeting with my owner but I have finally put something together. The thread seems to be a little all over the place right now, which is understandable when we keep finding out we are unable to lynch someone.

One of the big things that I have against Ked right now is his implication that he is involved with Osseric somehow.

So he posts with love/hate ambiguity

View PostKedeviss, on 14 August 2014 - 07:00 PM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 14 August 2014 - 06:58 PM, said:

The fact that I might be lynched is hilarious.

Nevertheless, every thought I had was kind of exploded yesterday so I'm not so sure where to go either. I'd have imagined teams are being narrowed down by now somewhat, other than those voting for me. Thus, I'll wait and see.


I'll save you my love!

Dragon, I no longer want Telas gone!
Dragon, I want Kadagar Fant gone!


Wait, why am I doing this? I'm supposed to hate you!


Yet more love/hate ambiguity

View PostKedeviss, on 14 August 2014 - 07:03 PM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 14 August 2014 - 07:02 PM, said:

What happened to you Kedeviss? Did you get switch-ma-witched?

Oh NO!

Oh NO NO NO NO!


Lol, no. It's just the playing-mafia part of me and the stay-in-character part of me at war! Plus the stay-in-character part is already a bit bipolar about you.


Shows that he knows Osserics role

View PostKedeviss, on 14 August 2014 - 08:52 PM, said:


I don't know about giving up, but I do know he's not a super big bad role, so I don't see the need to lynch him, especially if he's going to escape on his own anyways.


Outright says that he knows Osserics role

View PostKedeviss, on 14 August 2014 - 09:03 PM, said:

View PostKessobahn, on 14 August 2014 - 09:00 PM, said:

@ Kedeviss:


What makes you say that Osseric is not a super big bad role?


Because I know what his role is.


Claims Osseric's role is weak

View PostKedeviss, on 14 August 2014 - 09:12 PM, said:

So many people clamouring to lynch weak roles insetad of letting them escape, and wanting just straight out role reveals...

I am beginning to suspect that the more aggressive reactants we are seeing here like Korlat and Kesso have VCs that involve killing certain roles (and definitely not letting them escape!). I don't know why anyone would want to hurt poor Osseric though!


But then states that his VC requires all escapees out of the way. Dead or gone doesnt matter.

View PostKedeviss, on 14 August 2014 - 05:42 PM, said:


Yeah, that's exactly it. It's beneficial for me only to have you guys gone, not anything more than that, so if the difference is you escaping or dying, there's not much incentive to do anything. I mean, I guess if it's the dying option only a few of you would die and the rest would scatter, which is not as good for me as you ALL leaving. But it's not that much difference. Not enough to risk dying with you, I think.



So he keeps implying that he is somehow connected to Osseric who he says is a weak role who just needs to get out of the house. Yet he states that his VC requires all escapees gone. That seems a bit ambiguous to me. He also seems to have yet another info role (Is this one going to be unlynchable too??) which I def dont like having around when paired with the fact that he apparently has to stay in the house.


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Posted 20 August 2014 - 06:18 PM

View PostTellan, on 15 August 2014 - 04:35 PM, said:

View PostTogg, on 15 August 2014 - 04:01 PM, said:

Who's the flavor of the moment going on right now?

Dragon , I want to remove my vote


My vote is on Kadagar. Last game of Dresden, if I remember correctly, Obdi had someone's lynch as lynch + 1/4 of the thread. So 1/4 of 16 is 4, lynch is 9, so 13 votes is where I'd have liked to see Kadagar get before we switched. We have quite a few unlynchable players if Kadagar is another.

Tennes mentioned you and I, Togg, out of nowhere. I'd be just fine with turning the tables on him if for nothing else, if the current lynch fails.

What say you?


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Posted 20 August 2014 - 06:20 PM

View PostKorabas, on 15 August 2014 - 04:56 PM, said:

Dragon, I want Kedeviss gone!


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Posted 20 August 2014 - 06:24 PM

View PostTholen, on 15 August 2014 - 05:01 PM, said:

I am not a fan of a lynch on anyone who has publicly stated their indifference to the escapers. He is less likely to try and harm or interfere with us getting out, so his survival for me, and the guys I am working with, is more useful than his CF.

Dragon, I want to remove my vote

Dragon, I want Tellan gone!



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Posted 20 August 2014 - 06:30 PM

View PostKalse, on 15 August 2014 - 08:52 PM, said:

For those who need to escape; keep Telas around. He is one of the few who can, and he can take people along. What's more, there's very little others can do about him tonight, so he's a good bet.


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Posted 20 August 2014 - 06:30 PM

View PostTholen, on 15 August 2014 - 08:53 PM, said:

View PostKalse, on 15 August 2014 - 08:52 PM, said:

For those who need to escape; keep Telas around. He is one of the few who can, and he can take people along. What's more, there's very little others can do about him tonight, so he's a good bet.



There is a supernatual or demon or non-human escape group as well?

Because neither of you guys are escaping with me.


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Posted 20 August 2014 - 06:31 PM

View PostTennes, on 15 August 2014 - 09:13 PM, said:

View PostTholen, on 15 August 2014 - 09:02 PM, said:

View PostTennes, on 15 August 2014 - 08:59 PM, said:

View PostTholen, on 15 August 2014 - 08:53 PM, said:

View PostKalse, on 15 August 2014 - 08:52 PM, said:

For those who need to escape; keep Telas around. He is one of the few who can, and he can take people along. What's more, there's very little others can do about him tonight, so he's a good bet.



There is a supernatual or demon or non-human escape group as well?

Because neither of you guys are escaping with me.


Didn't you claim to have all the humans in your list?


I did, and do.

Well, this might be my ignorance of the dresdenverse but we are called "normals" which in this series which has demons and fairies and outsiders and harry's, I took "normals" to mean humans. Are you guys by chance magic users or something?


Where do you stand on Tennes or Kedevis being human "normal?"

I don't think your list is all the humans in the game. Look at the roles hinted at by Tiam so far - count up how many are human and compare that to how many are on your list. Now take into account humans are more likely to have fewer abilities so less likely to show up in Tiams lists. Still looking good for you having them all?

In fact, in terms of normal, the only ones I think I've seen mentioned so far are Mrs Whatshername with Tulas in her head, Hendricks, Marcone and Rawlins. No one else is normal or even close. I'm all for them escaping if it'll get rid of the voice of Tulas, although he has calmed down a lot lately.

I'm out shortly and don't as yet see a reason to shift off of Tellan.


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Posted 20 August 2014 - 06:33 PM

View PostTiamatha, on 20 August 2014 - 06:13 PM, said:

Funny how people are voting along with each other when they have voted each other. The Shell are funny. (Sheep)


The problem Tiam is not that i disagree with....

Wait have you said that you are He who walks or has someone just kept saying that you are he who walks?


I feel that I am missing something. Also Tiam Stop fucking spamming the thread that does no favors for making me remove my vote.


Dragon I want to remove my vote!

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 06:34 PM

View PostTellan, on 15 August 2014 - 09:18 PM, said:

View PostTholen, on 15 August 2014 - 09:02 PM, said:

View PostTennes, on 15 August 2014 - 08:59 PM, said:

View PostTholen, on 15 August 2014 - 08:53 PM, said:

View PostKalse, on 15 August 2014 - 08:52 PM, said:

For those who need to escape; keep Telas around. He is one of the few who can, and he can take people along. What's more, there's very little others can do about him tonight, so he's a good bet.



There is a supernatual or demon or non-human escape group as well?

Because neither of you guys are escaping with me.


Didn't you claim to have all the humans in your list?


I did, and do.

Well, this might be my ignorance of the dresdenverse but we are called "normals" which in this series which has demons and fairies and outsiders and harry's, I took "normals" to mean humans. Are you guys by chance magic users or something?


I think kalse and Telas are Marcone and Hendricks, but I'm far from sure. I don't have anything to do with you guys escapees. At least I didn't try to lie like some others are doing.

I feel the need to go ahead and reveal this, but I don't have to. I cannot be killed during the day phase. This includes lynch as well. I don't want to wait until there's no time left, and we end up with a random lynch. I also didn't feel the need to act like an unholy terror just because I was lynchproof like......others have done.

I'm trying to team up with the best group. Once I decide who that is, I'll be a very good ally to have, and could be a pain in the ass for the wrong people, but I'm content with coasting my way to victory with very little drama if possible.


Dragon remove my vote.



I'll add my vote to whoever we end up choosing.

Last Dresden game, multiple actions won. I believe it was Dresden and friends, winter court, and some independents. It might be time to start forming some power blocks. Tennes, I guess I now have a reason to start coming for the humans. I'm not claiming I'll succeed, but I might.

I also have a theory as to why so many players are unlynchable. I think because it's a Clue style game, Obdi wanted to shift towards more NKs over lynches. Who knows.




Woah.

Did not even catch this at all.

He is not part of the Alphas.

He is not part of Marconnes group.

Big bad right there. Claiming LP to boot. Wasn't even tested.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 06:38 PM

View PostTelas, on 20 August 2014 - 06:33 PM, said:

View PostTiamatha, on 20 August 2014 - 06:13 PM, said:

Funny how people are voting along with each other when they have voted each other. The Shell are funny. (Sheep)


The problem Tiam is not that i disagree with....

Wait have you said that you are He who walks or has someone just kept saying that you are he who walks?


I feel that I am missing something. Also Tiam Stop fucking spamming the thread that does no favors for making me remove my vote.


Dragon I want to remove my vote!


Honestly Telas I am only reading these posts for the first time. That's why I don't know who Korabas is. You take little note of the thread when you can't be Lynched.

Telas! You Tennes and Kalse are one group. Why can we not work together? You want to avoid a lynch and escape. I want to lynch who cares as long as it isn't your group?

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 06:49 PM

View PostTiamatha, on 20 August 2014 - 06:38 PM, said:

View PostTelas, on 20 August 2014 - 06:33 PM, said:

View PostTiamatha, on 20 August 2014 - 06:13 PM, said:

Funny how people are voting along with each other when they have voted each other. The Shell are funny. (Sheep)


The problem Tiam is not that i disagree with....

Wait have you said that you are He who walks or has someone just kept saying that you are he who walks?


I feel that I am missing something. Also Tiam Stop fucking spamming the thread that does no favors for making me remove my vote.


Dragon I want to remove my vote!


Honestly Telas I am only reading these posts for the first time. That's why I don't know who Korabas is. You take little note of the thread when you can't be Lynched.

Telas! You Tennes and Kalse are one group. Why can we not work together? You want to avoid a lynch and escape. I want to lynch who cares as long as it isn't your group?


The problem is while I think that you have some good idea's about the make up of the game. I don't really trust you. I don't know what you VC's are. Of course I don't know what anyone's VC's are other then my own. But at least the Alpha's VC match my own. You are very correct we have not attempted to lynch Tellan. However he also has not attempted to lynch me. :rolleyes:

You do not have to quote every single fucking post on the thread to do a read up. At least DKT would post comments for each post as he was going over them in order. You aren't even bothering to do that. It is pure and simple spam. Cuss out the thread for being dicks and complain about the unfairness of voting for the highest poster who is trying to play the game. Some of us and interested in seeing how people react to different lynch idea's. It is obvious that you don't really have anyone to back you up at all at this point. One suggesting of voting for you and everyone jumped on board.

That means that you a powerful independent but not a cult recruiter. Someone would have defended you. RIght now I want to lynch the fear vampire as I think that he is the one preventing us from leaving. If that isn't you who do you think that it is?

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 07:14 PM

Kedeviss, kadagar or Tellan. Those are the three unknowns depending whether you believe Tellan about working with the Alpha group although the above suggests otherwise

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 07:27 PM

View PostTellan, on 15 August 2014 - 10:21 PM, said:

View PostKessobahn, on 15 August 2014 - 10:07 PM, said:

@ Tellan, I can offer nighttime defences. How do we ally?


Are you alone? I can only ally with a faction or group of at least 2. We would need to confirm that our interests do NOT CONFLICT. That's basic. Then, you have to be able to show your current group of allies are capable of making it until the very end of the game.

And yes, my weaknesses revolve around by defunked night time defenses. I most get lucky as so far they haven't figured it out yet. Strong, unlynchable , unkillable

What if Tellan is the recruiter. He recruits the alphas who protect him at night?

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 07:36 PM

View PostTellan, on 15 August 2014 - 10:40 PM, said:

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View PostTellan, on 15 August 2014 - 10:21 PM, said:

View PostKessobahn, on 15 August 2014 - 10:07 PM, said:

@ Tellan, I can offer nighttime defences. How do we ally?


Are you alone? I can only ally with a faction or group of at least 2. We would need to confirm that our interests do NOT CONFLICT. That's basic. Then, you have to be able to show your current group of allies are capable of making it until the very end of the game.

And yes, my weaknesses revolve around by defunked night time defenses. I most get lucky as so far they haven't figured it out yet. Strong, unlynchable , unkillable


I am not alone. Our interests do not conflict. So how do we ally?



Toss me a bone. Who am I climbing into bed with here? We talking alphas, underground muscle, something far more sinister. I can only ally once at a time. I need guarantees. Also , my VCs would pick up your VCs.

If I decide to let your team pick me up, I'll spend an entire night sequence focusing, which leaves me susceptible to all night attacks. Any and all would hit, if they were close enough.


On the other hand, as temporarily potential allies, who are we wanting to vote for.

Are you against a Ked lynch, or Telas?



The rest of you bought this? Yet Kessobahn is dead and other alphas are dead.

What if Shark face is eating alphas?


I'm confused by the Trust shown in Tellan when his new "allies" are turning up dead.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 07:40 PM

View PostTellan, on 15 August 2014 - 11:01 PM, said:

View PostKessobahn, on 15 August 2014 - 10:51 PM, said:

View PostTellan, on 15 August 2014 - 10:46 PM, said:

View PostKessobahn, on 15 August 2014 - 10:44 PM, said:

View PostTellan, on 15 August 2014 - 10:40 PM, said:

View PostKessobahn, on 15 August 2014 - 10:22 PM, said:

View PostTellan, on 15 August 2014 - 10:21 PM, said:

View PostKessobahn, on 15 August 2014 - 10:07 PM, said:

@ Tellan, I can offer nighttime defences. How do we ally?


Are you alone? I can only ally with a faction or group of at least 2. We would need to confirm that our interests do NOT CONFLICT. That's basic. Then, you have to be able to show your current group of allies are capable of making it until the very end of the game.

And yes, my weaknesses revolve around by defunked night time defenses. I most get lucky as so far they haven't figured it out yet. Strong, unlynchable , unkillable


I am not alone. Our interests do not conflict. So how do we ally?



Toss me a bone. Who am I climbing into bed with here? We talking alphas, underground muscle, something far more sinister. I can only ally once at a time. I need guarantees. Also , my VCs would pick up your VCs.

If I decide to let your team pick me up, I'll spend an entire night sequence focusing, which leaves me susceptible to all night attacks. Any and all would hit, if they were close enough.


On the other hand, as temporarily potential allies, who are we wanting to vote for.

Are you against a Ked lynch, or Telas?



Nothing sinister. Our VCs are survive and escape. Our night abilities provide strong night defences - basically our pros are your cons, and your cons are our pros. We're meant to be.

I am against neither lynch, slightly favouring the Ked one (because I know less about what they might be).


How many are we, including me



Ugh. I hate being exact on thread. I enjoy it when everyone else spills their guts out, not when I have to do it. There would be four of us.

What are you bringing to this alliance?


A part of our team who cannot be killed during the day phase. It's good to have someone who could speak on thread on our behalf on a given day without having to fear being lynched off - very important piece, I think. Just as you said, I'm not tossing all my cards on the table for all to see, but I have an information gathering day action related to coming up with locations.

At night, with your help, I can, if we get lucky, possibly put one hell of a damper on someone's evening, although my getting stirred up to this wild guise is not needed for my achievements.

We just need to make it alive. Do you have any VCs to make sure specific factions or players must die or fail?



If Tellan was unlynchable why did he not try this alliance earlier? A way to become unlynchable is to gather a voting block. He was never tested.

As to his being the voice of the thread? Have we seen that?

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 07:44 PM

TIam what is your role? I want to trust you and I feel that you may be on to something with Tellan. But I want to know what your role is?

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 07:47 PM

View PostTiamatha, on 20 August 2014 - 07:40 PM, said:



If Tellan was unlynchable why did he not try this alliance earlier? A way to become unlynchable is to gather a voting block. He was never tested.

As to his being the voice of the thread? Have we seen that?


As far as on-thread info goes, they never ended up joining up. Tellan has basically continued playing as an independent beyond that.

And nope, the unlynchable was never tested, but same goes for many. Haven't test whether you are unlynchable today or not yet, either, regardless of whether you were day 3. Even if Tellan is Vittorio (seems the most likely to me) you are still HWWB. Thematically I'd see an Outsider as the greater threat, and either of you can be the person who killed Billy, so both options are just as good. If you don't get lynched today at L+2, then I plan to switch to Tellan.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 07:51 PM

View PostKedeviss, on 16 August 2014 - 04:42 AM, said:

Geez, korabas, I was trying to be nice and you shat all over it. Ass.

Korabas is Georgia, of the alphas. She is "fast", transforms and seems to have some amount of "telepathy" with Billy (tennes? Not sure).

Worth knowing for the thread, I think, as alphas and Mafia are probably the two most intact lethal factions.



Finally. Finally.

So she is still thinking Tellan is "on her side" haha

Hookwood.

How does Kedeviss know what he knows?

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 07:52 PM

View PostTelas, on 20 August 2014 - 07:44 PM, said:

TIam what is your role? I want to trust you and I feel that you may be on to something with Tellan. But I want to know what your role is?


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