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Posted 30 July 2014 - 11:33 AM
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Posted 30 July 2014 - 11:43 AM
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Not to be a complete asshole, I must say I don't remember. Did he?
Not to be a complete asshole, I must say I don't remember. Did he?
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Posted 30 July 2014 - 01:42 PM
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Posted 30 July 2014 - 02:10 PM
Black_Gates, on 30 July 2014 - 11:33 AM, said:
What is the relevance of Mappo Trell giving his elixers to Gesler and his crew?
They could save Bent and Roach.
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Posted 10 August 2014 - 04:52 PM
Were bent and roach the hounds of shadow then? i cant recall?
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Posted 10 August 2014 - 05:03 PM
Black_Gates, on 10 August 2014 - 04:52 PM, said:
Were bent and roach the hounds of shadow then? i cant recall?
They were the dogs that were mentioned in the Chain of Dogs. Bent was the largest Wickan cattle dog and Roach was I think the Hengese lapdog from one of the nobles that became the leader of the pack.
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Posted 12 August 2014 - 11:14 AM
Okay. But is it symbolic or anything. I can't see it's relevance.
Or am I just being stupid?
Or am I just being stupid?
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Posted 12 August 2014 - 11:55 AM
Symbolic? Sure, I guess. There are various forms of symbolism you could deduce from Mappo's charity. They couldn't save 10,000 soldiers but they managed to save the life of two loyal dogs that were willing to die for their masters. There's reflections of human compasion in such an action, hope, mending, sacrifice.
Mainly, I just see it as a good deed. There doesn't need to be any special meaning or profit in the exchange. Sometimes you do what you can to help others because it is within in your means and it is the right thing to do.
Erikson just broke our hearts. He leaves the reader with a small blessing of relief, that at least they managed to save the two cattle dogs.
Mainly, I just see it as a good deed. There doesn't need to be any special meaning or profit in the exchange. Sometimes you do what you can to help others because it is within in your means and it is the right thing to do.
Erikson just broke our hearts. He leaves the reader with a small blessing of relief, that at least they managed to save the two cattle dogs.
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Posted 12 August 2014 - 05:36 PM
Great thanks apt. I guess I started to think like my English teachers too much.
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Posted 12 August 2014 - 05:57 PM
In the case of Erikson, a deeper analyzes of any character action is potentially valuable. I think an English major would have field day with the themes Erikson plays with in these stories.
In that said, you get out of the Malazan stories, what you put into them.
That said, some times a spade is just spade.
In that said, you get out of the Malazan stories, what you put into them.
That said, some times a spade is just spade.
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Posted 17 August 2014 - 12:59 AM
Black_Gates, on 12 August 2014 - 11:14 AM, said:
Okay. But is it symbolic or anything. I can't see it's relevance.
Or am I just being stupid?
Or am I just being stupid?
I thought Mappo gave them the elixirs because of the other marine with Gesler and Stormy? Can't remember what his name is.
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Posted 02 March 2020 - 04:28 PM
Plays on the theme of compassion that runs through the series.
Bent and Roach also become symbolic because they're two of the few survivors of the Chain of Dogs. They're a small ray of hope amid the heartbreak that is the end of DG.
Bent and Roach also become symbolic because they're two of the few survivors of the Chain of Dogs. They're a small ray of hope amid the heartbreak that is the end of DG.
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