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Mafia 114 - Gladiators Game Thread

#601 User is offline   Aranatha 

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 08:22 PM

View PostSkintick, on 01 August 2014 - 12:55 AM, said:

View PostBendal Home, on 01 August 2014 - 12:52 AM, said:

Do not fear, my gladiators. Once more Capua clamours for gladiators of the house Batiatus to meet in honourable contest!


ARANATHA SHALL FACE THE CHAMPION OF CAPUA: SKINTICK!


Damn. You figured the odds on us picking correctly for a lynch if you left me out. I was hoping you wouldn't do that.


Bendal would have to be ballsy to place one of his shields in a fight, back to back, in my opinion. This makes me believe Skintick as gladiator even more. We now only have one alt alive who has been in a fight - Skintick. This is not in our best interest. We need to force more fights without losing gladiators so fast. We're down 3 gladiators, and only have information on one living alt.

I have the ability to force Bendal to replace me in this fight. If I don't use it and die, it's one less fight information we receive. If I don't use it and kill Skintick, we lose the only alt who has survived a fight. So I see the best possible use of this ability tonight, forcing Bendal to pick another fighter against Skintick.

BATIATUS, SKINTICK IS BENEATH ME.


For the record, Bendal now must choose a different fighter to face Skintick tonight. This doesn't delay the fight until tomorrow. It still happens tonight, just with another fighter in my place. This gives us another piece of the puzzle, which is who Bendal is willing to place in the arena.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 08:25 PM

View PostAranatha, on 01 August 2014 - 08:22 PM, said:

View PostSkintick, on 01 August 2014 - 12:55 AM, said:

View PostBendal Home, on 01 August 2014 - 12:52 AM, said:

Do not fear, my gladiators. Once more Capua clamours for gladiators of the house Batiatus to meet in honourable contest!


ARANATHA SHALL FACE THE CHAMPION OF CAPUA: SKINTICK!


Damn. You figured the odds on us picking correctly for a lynch if you left me out. I was hoping you wouldn't do that.


Bendal would have to be ballsy to place one of his shields in a fight, back to back, in my opinion. This makes me believe Skintick as gladiator even more. We now only have one alt alive who has been in a fight - Skintick. This is not in our best interest. We need to force more fights without losing gladiators so fast. We're down 3 gladiators, and only have information on one living alt.

I have the ability to force Bendal to replace me in this fight. If I don't use it and die, it's one less fight information we receive. If I don't use it and kill Skintick, we lose the only alt who has survived a fight. So I see the best possible use of this ability tonight, forcing Bendal to pick another fighter against Skintick.

BATIATUS, SKINTICK IS BENEATH ME.


For the record, Bendal now must choose a different fighter to face Skintick tonight. This doesn't delay the fight until tomorrow. It still happens tonight, just with another fighter in my place. This gives us another piece of the puzzle, which is who Bendal is willing to place in the arena.


now that is interesting

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 08:33 PM

View PostAranatha, on 01 August 2014 - 08:22 PM, said:

View PostSkintick, on 01 August 2014 - 12:55 AM, said:

View PostBendal Home, on 01 August 2014 - 12:52 AM, said:

Do not fear, my gladiators. Once more Capua clamours for gladiators of the house Batiatus to meet in honourable contest!


ARANATHA SHALL FACE THE CHAMPION OF CAPUA: SKINTICK!


Damn. You figured the odds on us picking correctly for a lynch if you left me out. I was hoping you wouldn't do that.


Bendal would have to be ballsy to place one of his shields in a fight, back to back, in my opinion. This makes me believe Skintick as gladiator even more. We now only have one alt alive who has been in a fight - Skintick. This is not in our best interest. We need to force more fights without losing gladiators so fast. We're down 3 gladiators, and only have information on one living alt.

I have the ability to force Bendal to replace me in this fight. If I don't use it and die, it's one less fight information we receive. If I don't use it and kill Skintick, we lose the only alt who has survived a fight. So I see the best possible use of this ability tonight, forcing Bendal to pick another fighter against Skintick.

BATIATUS, SKINTICK IS BENEATH ME.


For the record, Bendal now must choose a different fighter to face Skintick tonight. This doesn't delay the fight until tomorrow. It still happens tonight, just with another fighter in my place. This gives us another piece of the puzzle, which is who Bendal is willing to place in the arena.

What? Anyone BH replaces you with could still have fought in later days...
You would have been better off saying you didn't want to die.
Skintick, do you think this ability help town? I can't think of any reason town would need such a thing...
A) Aranatha is a town leader (one of the three) in which case he should fight and try to kill off scum that end up in the Arena.
B)Aranatha is normal town and he bows out, just to be replaced by another normal town.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 08:33 PM

View PostAnomandaris, on 01 August 2014 - 02:59 AM, said:

View PostSkintick, on 01 August 2014 - 12:54 AM, said:


I'm still leaning towards Ghennan but not set on that by any means.


Ghennan is an idiot townie. He counts for us, and his life prolongs D-Day.

That said, I'd really like to lynch Aranatha after we lynch one of the shields, since he's lowposting like a boss and he must be punished.


How do you know he's an idiot townie. This is a very poor post.

I'm not liking Ano more and more. Somewhere in Ano's first few posts, he spells Batiatus name wrong. He spells it wrong two different ways. I've seen scum use this tactic, because the name would most likely be in their pm, thus appearing to not know how to spell it is a subtle trick attempt. It's an extremely small thing to use for catching scum, but that combined with his seemingly knowing who is townie and who is scum is worrisome.

To push my above point further, Ano made a post where he accuses someone of pretending to 'wonder' if scum shields and Bendal had lovers link. He said this person was pretending to appear ignorant of an obvious truth a scum would know. Sound familiar to something he's done with the name spelling of Batiatus wrong.

Unlike Ano, I want to win the game and am unwilling to toss random people on the chopping block, as he is effortlessly doing when he says who is town and who is scum without hesitation. So I won't act just like him and vote him for such simple reasons just yet, but he's right up there for now as my top choice.

I want to see who Bendal replaces me with first.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 08:38 PM

View PostTennes, on 01 August 2014 - 08:33 PM, said:

View PostAranatha, on 01 August 2014 - 08:22 PM, said:

View PostSkintick, on 01 August 2014 - 12:55 AM, said:

View PostBendal Home, on 01 August 2014 - 12:52 AM, said:

Do not fear, my gladiators. Once more Capua clamours for gladiators of the house Batiatus to meet in honourable contest!


ARANATHA SHALL FACE THE CHAMPION OF CAPUA: SKINTICK!


Damn. You figured the odds on us picking correctly for a lynch if you left me out. I was hoping you wouldn't do that.


Bendal would have to be ballsy to place one of his shields in a fight, back to back, in my opinion. This makes me believe Skintick as gladiator even more. We now only have one alt alive who has been in a fight - Skintick. This is not in our best interest. We need to force more fights without losing gladiators so fast. We're down 3 gladiators, and only have information on one living alt.

I have the ability to force Bendal to replace me in this fight. If I don't use it and die, it's one less fight information we receive. If I don't use it and kill Skintick, we lose the only alt who has survived a fight. So I see the best possible use of this ability tonight, forcing Bendal to pick another fighter against Skintick.

BATIATUS, SKINTICK IS BENEATH ME.


For the record, Bendal now must choose a different fighter to face Skintick tonight. This doesn't delay the fight until tomorrow. It still happens tonight, just with another fighter in my place. This gives us another piece of the puzzle, which is who Bendal is willing to place in the arena.

What? Anyone BH replaces you with could still have fought in later days...
You would have been better off saying you didn't want to die.
Skintick, do you think this ability help town? I can't think of any reason town would need such a thing...
A) Aranatha is a town leader (one of the three) in which case he should fight and try to kill off scum that end up in the Arena.
B)Aranatha is normal town and he bows out, just to be replaced by another normal town.


Because he placed Skintick in back to back. Would he do this with his shield? Also, I think Skintick might be one of our champions. Why would I risk either of us dying if so. Bendal will probably still just toss me back in a fight tomorrow. At least we get to see who else he is willing to fight. Which is our key for detecting scum. It's in the rules. We narrow down the list by making him fight more alts.

You sound like you want town to lose someone important.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 08:41 PM

View PostAranatha, on 01 August 2014 - 08:38 PM, said:

View PostTennes, on 01 August 2014 - 08:33 PM, said:

View PostAranatha, on 01 August 2014 - 08:22 PM, said:

View PostSkintick, on 01 August 2014 - 12:55 AM, said:

View PostBendal Home, on 01 August 2014 - 12:52 AM, said:

Do not fear, my gladiators. Once more Capua clamours for gladiators of the house Batiatus to meet in honourable contest!


ARANATHA SHALL FACE THE CHAMPION OF CAPUA: SKINTICK!


Damn. You figured the odds on us picking correctly for a lynch if you left me out. I was hoping you wouldn't do that.


Bendal would have to be ballsy to place one of his shields in a fight, back to back, in my opinion. This makes me believe Skintick as gladiator even more. We now only have one alt alive who has been in a fight - Skintick. This is not in our best interest. We need to force more fights without losing gladiators so fast. We're down 3 gladiators, and only have information on one living alt.

I have the ability to force Bendal to replace me in this fight. If I don't use it and die, it's one less fight information we receive. If I don't use it and kill Skintick, we lose the only alt who has survived a fight. So I see the best possible use of this ability tonight, forcing Bendal to pick another fighter against Skintick.

BATIATUS, SKINTICK IS BENEATH ME.


For the record, Bendal now must choose a different fighter to face Skintick tonight. This doesn't delay the fight until tomorrow. It still happens tonight, just with another fighter in my place. This gives us another piece of the puzzle, which is who Bendal is willing to place in the arena.

What? Anyone BH replaces you with could still have fought in later days...
You would have been better off saying you didn't want to die.
Skintick, do you think this ability help town? I can't think of any reason town would need such a thing...
A) Aranatha is a town leader (one of the three) in which case he should fight and try to kill off scum that end up in the Arena.
B)Aranatha is normal town and he bows out, just to be replaced by another normal town.


Because he placed Skintick in back to back. Would he do this with his shield? Also, I think Skintick might be one of our champions. Why would I risk either of us dying if so. Bendal will probably still just toss me back in a fight tomorrow. At least we get to see who else he is willing to fight. Which is our key for detecting scum. It's in the rules. We narrow down the list by making him fight more alts.

You sound like you want town to lose someone important.

No, actually, I don't believe you're town. I think you are a scum and I believe your ability is a scum ability.
I didn't even mention Skintick in my post, it was entirely addressed to you.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 08:52 PM

View PostTennes, on 01 August 2014 - 08:41 PM, said:

View PostAranatha, on 01 August 2014 - 08:38 PM, said:

View PostTennes, on 01 August 2014 - 08:33 PM, said:

View PostAranatha, on 01 August 2014 - 08:22 PM, said:

View PostSkintick, on 01 August 2014 - 12:55 AM, said:

View PostBendal Home, on 01 August 2014 - 12:52 AM, said:

Do not fear, my gladiators. Once more Capua clamours for gladiators of the house Batiatus to meet in honourable contest!


ARANATHA SHALL FACE THE CHAMPION OF CAPUA: SKINTICK!


Damn. You figured the odds on us picking correctly for a lynch if you left me out. I was hoping you wouldn't do that.


Bendal would have to be ballsy to place one of his shields in a fight, back to back, in my opinion. This makes me believe Skintick as gladiator even more. We now only have one alt alive who has been in a fight - Skintick. This is not in our best interest. We need to force more fights without losing gladiators so fast. We're down 3 gladiators, and only have information on one living alt.

I have the ability to force Bendal to replace me in this fight. If I don't use it and die, it's one less fight information we receive. If I don't use it and kill Skintick, we lose the only alt who has survived a fight. So I see the best possible use of this ability tonight, forcing Bendal to pick another fighter against Skintick.

BATIATUS, SKINTICK IS BENEATH ME.


For the record, Bendal now must choose a different fighter to face Skintick tonight. This doesn't delay the fight until tomorrow. It still happens tonight, just with another fighter in my place. This gives us another piece of the puzzle, which is who Bendal is willing to place in the arena.

What? Anyone BH replaces you with could still have fought in later days...
You would have been better off saying you didn't want to die.
Skintick, do you think this ability help town? I can't think of any reason town would need such a thing...
A) Aranatha is a town leader (one of the three) in which case he should fight and try to kill off scum that end up in the Arena.
B)Aranatha is normal town and he bows out, just to be replaced by another normal town.


Because he placed Skintick in back to back. Would he do this with his shield? Also, I think Skintick might be one of our champions. Why would I risk either of us dying if so. Bendal will probably still just toss me back in a fight tomorrow. At least we get to see who else he is willing to fight. Which is our key for detecting scum. It's in the rules. We narrow down the list by making him fight more alts.

You sound like you want town to lose someone important.

No, actually, I don't believe you're town. I think you are a scum and I believe your ability is a scum ability.
I didn't even mention Skintick in my post, it was entirely addressed to you.


You didn't mention the person I have to fight tonight? Well that just makes you ignorant. The ability replaces me from fighting Skintick, who we think might be one of our champions. It's cut and dry. Bendal's best technique would to fight our most important and best fighters against each other. I'm preventing this for at least one night.

Basically you're saying you want Skintick dead, then? Maybe Ano was right about you and I'm wrong about him. Either you're scum, or too stupid to be left alive on our team.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 09:03 PM

View PostAranatha, on 01 August 2014 - 08:52 PM, said:

You didn't mention the person I have to fight tonight? Well that just makes you ignorant. The ability replaces me from fighting Skintick, who we think might be one of our champions. It's cut and dry. Bendal's best technique would to fight our most important and best fighters against each other. I'm preventing this for at least one night.

Basically you're saying you want Skintick dead, then? Maybe Ano was right about you and I'm wrong about him. Either you're scum, or too stupid to be left alive on our team.

You disappoint me.
I'm simply saying that as one of the town champions, Skintick would have had a good chance of killing you. I don't know whether you are scum or town, but IMO, your ability does not help town. (and that is only in my opinion, that's why I asked Skintick who was also present) So you are more likely to be scum than town at the moment.
I never said I wanted Skintick dead, I only said that the logic you used in justifying the use of your ability only matters if we believe you are a town champion.(meaning you have a reasonable chance of killing Skin and are more useful than other townies) which we don't. At least at the moment.
Try to not put words in my mouth please. Uncalled for aggression of this kind only makes you seem petty and in the wrong.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 09:16 PM

View PostSkintick, on 01 August 2014 - 01:14 AM, said:

View PostTennes, on 01 August 2014 - 01:09 AM, said:

View PostSkintick, on 01 August 2014 - 12:54 AM, said:

View PostTennes, on 31 July 2014 - 11:42 PM, said:

So, the only thing BH has to do to win this game is not declare any contenders until end of the day?


And you just named the reason why Merrid's thought might be right about the time limit. I'd say give it another hour and a half?


View PostAnomandaris, on 01 August 2014 - 12:49 AM, said:

So, you guys going to lynch more town or can we lynch a shield today?


Vote Tennes


I'm still leaning towards Ghennan but not set on that by any means.

Is there a reason for that other than Ghenna's really scummy post wishing for you to die?


Yeah. He was the first to jump on the "let's lynch the picked fighters". A few other things. Now that the head shit head has did a "rest of the day" order, I'll put together a case on Ghennan and a couple others who have caught my eye.

I'm wondering how close a look we should take at Aranatha. I made a comment earlier about BH not putting thought into the orders and selections. My guess is that Aranatha and Eldat were chosen a bit more carefully. I am NOT proposing a lynch on either one at this juncture. Setting them up for the lynch could be the thought.




That is part of the reason why I'm believing Aranatha. He pointed out something in his reveal that I simply hadn't considered when I came up as a pick. I made the basic assumption that he threw me back in to get rid of me so I didn't consider the flip side of that is the more he does so the more apparent that's what he's doing.

Skintick, on 31 July 2014 - 04:03 PM, said:

Now for the fun part. BH arena picks.

Today is 11 people. BH and 2 scum and 8 town.

Arena picks are both town. Leaving 8 people from which to choose a lynch candidate. 7 if you count me as VPI. 2 scum and 5 town.

Arena picks are myself and town. Leaves 8 people from which to choose a lynch. 2 scum and 6 town.

Arena picks are myself and SHb. This one lowers the odds of a scum lynch dramatically but risks SHb in the ring.




Again, I'm assuming that he knows his ShitHeads. His least risky option is to NOT fight them until he has to do so. It's much easier to hide them in the crowd than to make them stand out by choosing them. Which is why I said what I said about how closely we wanted to look at Aranatha.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 09:29 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 31 July 2014 - 01:36 PM, said:

It is Day 3. 36 hours remaining.




4 hours left

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 09:37 PM

View PostTennes, on 01 August 2014 - 09:03 PM, said:

View PostAranatha, on 01 August 2014 - 08:52 PM, said:

You didn't mention the person I have to fight tonight? Well that just makes you ignorant. The ability replaces me from fighting Skintick, who we think might be one of our champions. It's cut and dry. Bendal's best technique would to fight our most important and best fighters against each other. I'm preventing this for at least one night.

Basically you're saying you want Skintick dead, then? Maybe Ano was right about you and I'm wrong about him. Either you're scum, or too stupid to be left alive on our team.

You disappoint me.
I'm simply saying that as one of the town champions, Skintick would have had a good chance of killing you. I don't know whether you are scum or town, but IMO, your ability does not help town. (and that is only in my opinion, that's why I asked Skintick who was also present) So you are more likely to be scum than town at the moment.
I never said I wanted Skintick dead, I only said that the logic you used in justifying the use of your ability only matters if we believe you are a town champion.(meaning you have a reasonable chance of killing Skin and are more useful than other townies) which we don't. At least at the moment.
Try to not put words in my mouth please. Uncalled for aggression of this kind only makes you seem petty and in the wrong.


How can you not see how brilliant this move is for town?

It is a role specifically setup to negate the advantage bednal has by limiting the number of fighters we can gain info from. This specific problem has even been discussed on thread. His ability gives us a temporary solution to it.

Really glad we get to see someone else put in the fight tonight.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 09:53 PM

View PostGhennan, on 01 August 2014 - 09:37 PM, said:

View PostTennes, on 01 August 2014 - 09:03 PM, said:

View PostAranatha, on 01 August 2014 - 08:52 PM, said:

You didn't mention the person I have to fight tonight? Well that just makes you ignorant. The ability replaces me from fighting Skintick, who we think might be one of our champions. It's cut and dry. Bendal's best technique would to fight our most important and best fighters against each other. I'm preventing this for at least one night.

Basically you're saying you want Skintick dead, then? Maybe Ano was right about you and I'm wrong about him. Either you're scum, or too stupid to be left alive on our team.

You disappoint me.
I'm simply saying that as one of the town champions, Skintick would have had a good chance of killing you. I don't know whether you are scum or town, but IMO, your ability does not help town. (and that is only in my opinion, that's why I asked Skintick who was also present) So you are more likely to be scum than town at the moment.
I never said I wanted Skintick dead, I only said that the logic you used in justifying the use of your ability only matters if we believe you are a town champion.(meaning you have a reasonable chance of killing Skin and are more useful than other townies) which we don't. At least at the moment.
Try to not put words in my mouth please. Uncalled for aggression of this kind only makes you seem petty and in the wrong.


How can you not see how brilliant this move is for town?

It is a role specifically setup to negate the advantage bednal has by limiting the number of fighters we can gain info from. This specific problem has even been discussed on thread. His ability gives us a temporary solution to it.

Really glad we get to see someone else put in the fight tonight.

I don't understand what you mean.
Without knowing his allegiance, we don't know if his ability (aka negating the advantage) helps the town or not. He can be scum(we don't know) using this ability to get out of a fight and give BH a chance to choose a town.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 10:07 PM

Okay I will try and state this as simply as I can.

Bendal Home is the tyrant.
Bendal Home is in control of both WHO and WHAT we learn from arena fights.
Any mechanic that forces Bendal Home to alter his choices is GOOD for town and gives us MORE INFORMATION.

I am not calling him town, I am saying that mechanic is good for us.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 10:25 PM

Vote Anomandaris

With the time left and the incredibly spare posting today, I doubt we will get any lynch, and I will be available to swap if necessary, but Ano has consistently misrepresented others opinions, statements and behavior. When people attempt to engage him in conversation he responds by dismissing them or insulting them, attempting to shut down any conversation. Has displayed an appalling lack of understanding of the game mechanics despite being able to easily resolve that just by reading the sign up thread.

Edit: Removed a "ting" at the end of shut

This post has been edited by Ghennan: 01 August 2014 - 10:29 PM


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Posted 01 August 2014 - 10:32 PM

I'd really like a PS update sometime soon. I want to know if BH has to declare the replacement on thread or if he put in a "Skintick and Aranatha. If one is lynched, then X, Y, Z. in that order."

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 10:33 PM

View PostGhennan, on 01 August 2014 - 10:25 PM, said:

Vote Anomandaris

With the time left and the incredibly spare posting today, I doubt we will get any lynch, and I will be available to swap if necessary, but Ano has consistently misrepresented others opinions, statements and behavior. When people attempt to engage him in conversation he responds by dismissing them or insulting them, attempting to shut down any conversation. Has displayed an appalling lack of understanding of the game mechanics despite being able to easily resolve that just by reading the sign up thread.

Edit: Removed a "ting" at the end of shut


Vote Anomandaris

I've been saying that he is a retard and he should be killed off. If not because he is acting scummy then because he is hurting our chance for a win.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 10:38 PM

View PostGhennan, on 01 August 2014 - 10:07 PM, said:

Okay I will try and state this as simply as I can.

Bendal Home is the tyrant.
Bendal Home is in control of both WHO and WHAT we learn from arena fights.
Any mechanic that forces Bendal Home to alter his choices is GOOD for town and gives us MORE INFORMATION.

I am not calling him town, I am saying that mechanic is good for us.



View PostGhennan, on 01 August 2014 - 10:25 PM, said:

Vote Anomandaris

With the time left and the incredibly spare posting today, I doubt we will get any lynch, and I will be available to swap if necessary, but Ano has consistently misrepresented others opinions, statements and behavior. When people attempt to engage him in conversation he responds by dismissing them or insulting them, attempting to shut down any conversation. Has displayed an appalling lack of understanding of the game mechanics despite being able to easily resolve that just by reading the sign up thread.

Edit: Removed a "ting" at the end of shut


I still think you're putting too much emphasis on the fighter choices. In the end, it's an NK mechanism. If speculating on "why Trake was killed last night" is WIFOM, then to a lesser degree it's wifom to speculate on why the fighters were chosen. Althought Aranatha's reveal does make it more valuable.

I'm still curious about the Eldat Pressen "Breaking Bad" mandate. I'm treating it as a red herring but won't be shocked if I find out I'm wrong once the game is over.

I'm not liking Anomandaris' style. But he's the only reason I'm not pressing you Ghennan. His opinion that you're stupid rather than scum. :)

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 10:42 PM

View PostSkintick, on 01 August 2014 - 10:32 PM, said:

I'd really like a PS update sometime soon. I want to know if BH has to declare the replacement on thread or if he put in a "Skintick and Aranatha. If one is lynched, then X, Y, Z. in that order."


And let's not forget that until PS or BH confirms the Aranatha caps lock thing, it's still just a claim.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 10:59 PM

I agree that this ability, if real, gives town more information and that is a good thing. It doesn't say Aranatha is town or scum, but I'm not sure why this is so hard for Tennes to understand.

Only 3-ish hours left, so I'm not liking our lynch chances, but I will vote to get an actual train going on the chance.

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I still like my candidate better.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 11:10 PM

Going to sleep now so won't be back until after EoD.

Since the ano lynch is the most likely at the moment I will leave my vote there, though I do dislike Tennes' reason for voting for him.

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