[Skintick]

Unofficial count is:

There are 11 Players left alive: Anomandaris, Aranatha, Bendal Home, Eldat Pressen, Ghennan, Iparth Erule, Merrid, Prazec Goul, Ryadd Eleis, Skintick, Tennes

6 votes to lynch. 6 votes for night.

1 vote Ghennan: Prazec Goul
1 vote Tennes: Anomandaris
4 votes for Anomandaris: Ghennan, Tennes, Iparth Erule, Eldat Pressan


Players not voted: Aranatha, Bendal Home, Merrid, Prazec Goul, Ryadd Eleis, Skintick

[Iparth Erule]

You forgot to include my amazing scum catch in Ryadd Eleis in your summary.*

















*which puts you on par with everyone else, except the tyrant. Hmmmmm.............

[Skintick]

I stress that my use of the word "unsubstantiated" is only because that is literally true. Neither BH nor PS has verified it.

I can think of no valid reason why Aranatha would make a fake reveal. Whether the ability makes him scum or town is up to you decide. I think townish but that could change.

[Skintick]

Iparth Erule, on 01 August 2014 - 11:39 PM, said:

You forgot to include my amazing scum catch in Ryadd Eleis in your summary.*

















*which puts you on par with everyone else, except the tyrant. Hmmmmm.............

That's why I told him to read up. Because I was doing it off the top of my head. And I was gone for a couple of hours earlier.

[Prazec Goul]

Skintick, on 01 August 2014 - 11:32 PM, said:

PG, it was you, Ghennan, and Aranatha that basically forced a vote onto one of myself or Denesmet on Day 1 on the basis of "we should lynch one of the fighters". What are your thoughts on that now?

I think it was a smart move to do. (It gave us more information day one than we could have hoped for)

Since then I've been less inclined to focus on Bendals choices because he is clever enough to not implicate his guards. I think the best way forward for us would be to look at interactions on thread. Votes and play style. Something I wanted to do today but was busy and lazy.

Personally I was going to wait a day or two before properly getting stuck into the thread (when suspects are narrowed down further)

I would not have minded voting Aranatha today. Yet they have revealed an ability. I have yet to decide who the ability benefits more. Scum smoke screen because Skin is hard to beat or town self preservation or just Aranatha wanting to hide their abilities.

[Skintick]

Skintick, on 01 August 2014 - 11:32 PM, said:

PG, it was you, Ghennan, and Aranatha that basically forced a vote onto one of myself or Denesmet on Day 1 on the basis of "we should lynch one of the fighters". What are your thoughts on that now?

I'd really like to see some comments on this from whomever is around.

I thought then that it was stupid to assume that BH would put a fighter in the arena on day 1. And have no reason to think otherwise now. Which makes Ghennan's strongly worded stance on the subject scummy from my PoV. Enough that I could make a case that he and one of PG or Aranatha are the shitheads.

Aranatha has since said that it was a mistake to assume that. But then he reversed himself so far that he makes the claim that we should now never lynch one of the fighters without seeing the result of the first fight they are in. Since he was the other fighter selected when he made that statement he sorta has a vested interest in making that claim. But then he made the reveal about the ability. That could make him scum trying desperately to get out of being lynched solely because he was picked as a fighter.

[Skintick]

Prazec Goul, on 01 August 2014 - 11:43 PM, said:

Skintick, on 01 August 2014 - 11:32 PM, said:

PG, it was you, Ghennan, and Aranatha that basically forced a vote onto one of myself or Denesmet on Day 1 on the basis of "we should lynch one of the fighters". What are your thoughts on that now?

I think it was a smart move to do. (It gave us more information day one than we could have hoped for)

Since then I've been less inclined to focus on Bendals choices because he is clever enough to not implicate his guards. I think the best way forward for us would be to look at interactions on thread. Votes and play style. Something I wanted to do today but was busy and lazy.

Personally I was going to wait a day or two before properly getting stuck into the thread (when suspects are narrowed down further)

I would not have minded voting Aranatha today. Yet they have revealed an ability. I have yet to decide who the ability benefits more. Scum smoke screen because Skin is hard to beat or town self preservation or just Aranatha wanting to hide their abilities.

Okey, so you responded while I was typing the other.

Nice generic answer. But also quite reasonable.

[Skintick]

Path-Shaper, on 30 July 2014 - 12:54 AM, said:

At lynch time, it was...

It is Day 1. There were 2 hours 42 minutes remaining.


There are 14 Players left alive: Anomandaris, Aranatha, Bendal Home, Denesmet, Eldat Pressen, Ghennan, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Merrid, Prazec Goul, Ryadd Eleis, Skintick, Tennes, Ultama

8 votes for lynch, 7 votes for night.

2 votes Ghennan: Anomandaris, Skintick
8 votes Denesmet: Prazec Goul, Kessobahn, Tennes, Ghennan, Ryadd Eleis, Eldat Pressen, Merrid, Iparth Erule


Players not voted: Aranatha, Bendal Home, Denesmet, Iparth Erule, Merrid, Ultama



Denesmet is dead. She was Ariaramnes the Laquerarius, and D'rek

Well. That's interesting. Aranatha wasn't on the lynch of Denny.

[Skintick]

Aranatha, on 31 July 2014 - 04:29 PM, said:

Skintick, on 31 July 2014 - 03:14 PM, said:

Merrid, on 29 July 2014 - 07:29 PM, said:

Bendal Home, on 28 July 2014 - 08:12 PM, said:

Gladiators gather. This Ludus housed many champions in its time, and yet none greater stand before me on this day. I have secured position in the coming games! Two men to face each other in deadly contest. No quarter given, no mercy shown.

SKINTICK AND DENESMET! TWO LEGENDS TO APPEASE CAPUA AND THE GODS. MAY GLORIOUS DEATH BRING RAIN.

Names his fighters early on - 6 hours 12min into game. Perhaps he has a time limit to choose the gladiators in? There's been no change to them so far either despite Denesmet being at L2 so I think BH is stuck once he names them. We could wait for the announcement then lynch one of his chosen ones to prevent the NK each night at the expense of BH picking the two targets.

Do we want to test this theory? And, if so, to what point? The lynch one of them idea is not a viable option imo.

We should have never lynched a chosen fighter before the fight. I admit that I think Bendal would have placed one of his shields in the first fight because he has to juggle the risking of losing one of his shields in a fight with revealing his shields by not fighting them. I was one of those who made this mistake, but we should never again lynch someone he announces until after the fight. After the fight, we'll have the cf of one of them, so no use in lynching before. I also felt that Skintick should have been the fighter we lynched the first day, but there were a few posts that adamantly swayed us over to Denesmet instead. I think it's a good chance that Skintick is one of our champions, but not one with a shield. I'm only saying this because someone said they believed he would be Crixus for some reason. The fight scene makes this seem otherwise. I doubt he's the undefeated Gaul.

I'm waiting to see who Bendal wants to fight tonight before pushing judgement. I think we shouldn't pi anyone though. We should learn our lessons on this by now. It's perhaps not likely, but Skintick could still be a scum shield. I still believe that it's possible that Bendal placed Skintick, his shield, in the first fight, and then it was Bendal that delayed his own fight, and Skintick claimed credit to pi himself. Yes, Skintick mentioned his delay first, but Bendal could still be the one with this ability and scum might know it. Unlikely, yes, but my point is I won't pi him myself. I'll need more information, and we need to see more of Bendals choices. Also, Bendal would benefit from that first delay. We would lynch on the first night without the benefit of the information from a fight, which is our key for this mafia game. Then we lynched again the second day , again, without fight cf information.

I'm not saying Skintick is scum shield or gladiator, but I'm not ready to pi him based on the 'ifs' just yet.

Aranatha, on 01 August 2014 - 08:22 PM, said:

Skintick, on 01 August 2014 - 12:55 AM, said:

Bendal Home, on 01 August 2014 - 12:52 AM, said:

Do not fear, my gladiators. Once more Capua clamours for gladiators of the house Batiatus to meet in honourable contest!


ARANATHA SHALL FACE THE CHAMPION OF CAPUA: SKINTICK!

Damn. You figured the odds on us picking correctly for a lynch if you left me out. I was hoping you wouldn't do that.

Bendal would have to be ballsy to place one of his shields in a fight, back to back, in my opinion. This makes me believe Skintick as gladiator even more. We now only have one alt alive who has been in a fight - Skintick. This is not in our best interest. We need to force more fights without losing gladiators so fast. We're down 3 gladiators, and only have information on one living alt.

I have the ability to force Bendal to replace me in this fight. If I don't use it and die, it's one less fight information we receive. If I don't use it and kill Skintick, we lose the only alt who has survived a fight. So I see the best possible use of this ability tonight, forcing Bendal to pick another fighter against Skintick.

BATIATUS, SKINTICK IS BENEATH ME.


For the record, Bendal now must choose a different fighter to face Skintick tonight. This doesn't delay the fight until tomorrow. It still happens tonight, just with another fighter in my place. This gives us another piece of the puzzle, which is who Bendal is willing to place in the arena.

[Skintick]

With an hour and a half to go, I really don't see that we could make a lynch on any one other than Anomandaris seeing as how it's the start of the weekend. So I'll put him back on L1. But the lack of conversation this day is going to bite us on the ass I suspect.


Vote Anomandaris.

[Skintick]

And shit. There won't be any resolution of night if Aranatha is telling the truth. The replacement needs to put in their fight orders.

[Prazec Goul]

I'll vote to get a lynch because I would like to see Anos cf as he has a stance against other players. I don't see how he became the only choice though.

[Prazec Goul]

vote anomandaris

[Path-Shaper]

I'm here, give me a few minutes and I'll post a time/vote update.

Also, yes, Bendal Home has to choose another fighter. Aranatha has removed themselves from tonight's Arena Fight.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 1 hours 24 minutes remaining.

There are 11 Players left alive: Anomandaris, Aranatha, Bendal Home, Eldat Pressen, Ghennan, Iparth Erule, Merrid, Prazec Goul, Ryadd Eleis, Skintick, Tennes

6 votes to lynch. 6 votes for night.

1 vote Ghennan: Prazec Goul
1 vote Tennes: Anomandaris
5 votes Anomandaris: Ghennan, Tennes, Iparth Erule, Eldat Pressen, Skintick


Players not voted: Aranatha, Bendal Home, Merrid, Ryadd Eleis

[Skintick]

Prazec Goul, on 02 August 2014 - 12:11 AM, said:

I don't see how he became the only choice though.

I think it's called "friday".


Now that it's night, a couple of thoughts:

Skintick, on 01 August 2014 - 11:02 PM, said:

I'm not posting this yet because I down't want to muddy up the thread or give BH ideas.

Quote

Most of this is simply repeating what I've already said. But since nobody has commented on it I shall refresh it taking into account Aranatha's reveal.

It's day 3. 11 people alive. 10 for our purposes since we can't lynch the one known scum.

I know I'm town with the standard disclaimer that I should not be considered more than PI.

That leaves 9 people. 7 town and 2 scum.

Now this is where BH's choice of fighters is valuable.

Aranatha is ShitHeada (SHa): then it's 8 people. 7 town 1 scum. Damn good odds of SHb not getting lynched. But he's risking a SHa in the ring against a theorized roled town.
Aranatha is town: then is's 8 people. 6 town and 2 scum. Odds are still good that a town is lynched. And the NK is guaranteed town.

For the moment let's take Aranatha at his word. 8 people. 6 town and 2 scum. So the replacement choice is a bit trickier.

Replacement is scum: 7 people. 6 town and 1 scum. SHx is very likely to survive the lynch but, again, he's risking the other SH in the ring.
Replacement is town: 7 people. 5 town and 2 scum. Still good odds that a townie will be lynched with the NK guaranteed town.


I think that the odds are better for BH to have chosen a town for arena. Therefore, Aranatha is likely town. Odds are still in his favor by going with a townie as replacement in case of lynch. HOWEVER, that is more in doubt if BH has not made a replacement choice yet.


And after tying that I circle back to: the arena fights are an NK. And speculation on BH's choices is wifom to a degree. We should be treating this as an M&P and trying to find scum the old fashioned way through interactions and lynch trains.

And the truly horrid one: I've been assuming we kill the shitheads and it's just lynch BH. It's Blend, so it is possible it really is that easy to kill the scum leader. But it's mafia. What if he has an LP? That would move d-day one closer.

[Skintick]

Path-Shaper, on 02 August 2014 - 12:16 AM, said:

I'm here, give me a few minutes and I'll post a time/vote update.

Also, yes, Bendal Home has to choose another fighter. Aranatha has removed themselves from tonight's Arena Fight.

Aranatha is telling the truth and BH doesn't have to name a replacement until it's actually necessary. Two useful things to know.

[Path-Shaper]

Gonna run to the beer store before it closes, will resolve a lynch if there is one when I get back!

[Skintick]

Prazec Goul, on 02 August 2014 - 12:15 AM, said:

vote anomandaris

Path-Shaper, on 02 August 2014 - 12:25 AM, said:

Gonna run to the beer store before it closes, will resolve a lynch if there is one when I get back!

Sam Adam's Pale Ale please.

[Prazec Goul]

Argh. Good job I checked. Was about to head upstairs.
Sooooo tired
remove vote

Vote anomandaris