[Eldat Pressen]

Tennes, on 30 July 2014 - 09:06 PM, said:

BH chose Kesso before the lynch scene didn't he? He didn't know for sure that Skintick was a PI then.

This is the kind of thing that Im talking about. You are either completely retarded, willfully ignorant or just plain ignoring anything that is going on. He would have known that Skin was PI from the beginning as he pretty is guaranteed to know who his Shields are.

[Kessobahn]

Path-Shaper, on 30 July 2014 - 12:54 AM, said:

At lynch time, it was...It is Day 1. There were 2 hours 42 minutes remaining. There are 14 Players left alive: Anomandaris, Aranatha, Bendal Home, Denesmet, Eldat Pressen, Ghennan, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Merrid, Prazec Goul, Ryadd Eleis, Skintick, Tennes, Ultama8 votes for lynch, 7 votes for night.2 votes Ghennan: Anomandaris, Skintick8 votes Denesmet: Prazec Goul, Kessobahn, Tennes, Ghennan, Ryadd Eleis, Eldat Pressen, Merrid, Iparth ErulePlayers not voted: Aranatha, Bendal Home, Denesmet, Iparth Erule, Merrid, Ultama In a desperate bid to calm the increasingly irate citizens of Capua and to increase attendance in the arena, Batiatus had his gladiator slaves fighting more fiercely than ever before. The slaves were forced to practice new, complex maneuvers all morning under the scorching sun. By noon, Ariaramnes - one of the youngest and smallest fighters - could take no more. he/she collapsed upon the blistering sands. Onomaeus, the trainer, shouted at Ariaramnes to get back up, but he/she didn't budge. Seeing resentment spreading throughout the other gladiators, Batiatus signalled to Onomaeus to make an example of him/her. Onomaeus gave Ariaramnes one last chance to rise, but the gladiator only pleaded weakly for medical attention. "You want medical attention?!" cried Onomaeus. "Very well..." He paused, and put on a pair of sunglasses."...the Doctore will see you now!"Denesmet is dead. She was Ariaramnes the Laquerarius, and D'rek

Feel like I should remind people that this is an M&P with a nice helping of WIFOM. That said, it is still an M&P, and the same general principles should be attended.

I am surprised no one did a vote analysis. I'm surprised no one has brought up first day behavior. I'm surprised how much emphasis has been put on our dictator, a red herring of WIFOM in my opinion. I am still looking through things now, and should have some comments on the lynch train, but wanted to start with this reminder.

[Kessobahn]

Before digging too much deeper, I want to put out the things at the tip of my mind.

Tennes: Just following around, derp derp. But was the one to tip the 3-way 2-vote tie onto Denesmet

Ghen: Very very very loud. And acts far angrier than any mafia player I have seen for a while = acting; leading the thread too much. Also votes for someone for which he has absolutely no conviction, solidifying the growing lynch train.

Ryadd: Mocking, flippant, there and gone with little to say and much to tease. Just get the feeling he is goofing around, with our heads.

Iparth: Hammer, recent target of BH's attentions, and supposed softie. Seemed very offended by the thread, or at least shell shocked. Again, I think this is an act, a humanization to keep him a picture of quiet reason and companion-ness.

[Kessobahn]

And the unsung overkill vote from Ultima.

I do agree he is the best lynch target today. Already going back to day 1, with his immediate antagonization of BH, his false claims of OP ignorance but somehow knowing BH, I believe we need to pin this suspicion down

Vote Ultima

[Kessobahn]

Skintick, on 28 July 2014 - 02:30 PM, said:

not first

Ghennan, on 28 July 2014 - 02:41 PM, said:

Also not first

Interesting...

[Eldat Pressen]

Tennes, on 30 July 2014 - 09:37 PM, said:

I participated in the day1 talk, laid out my ideas and asked questions. Sorry I wasn't being a dick to everyone. Seriously, what the heck do you count as contribution?


So, what I think right now is that EP sucks. Anomander is a pompous ass with a good catch regarding Merrid and sucky reading comprehension. Prazec Gouls idea of how the shields would play is stupid, because of not making any waves would have led to not getting lynched, scum would have had the perfect strategy to play in every M&P game.
I also don't think the case on Ultama has much merit, it's built on him posting a lot in the middle of a day, isn't it?
The best lynch candidate right now is Merrid in my opinion.
Also, Crixus did have a game postponed during the tv series so ... (Skintick)

I will vote Merrid later in the day in absence of significant change.

I was going to do a giant fucking annoying quote wall of your D1 but it was a pain in the ass and yall can do your own damn looking up. Your D1 consists of calling people stupid and adding nothing to the conversation. Yes you had one or two actual original thoughts, but in the end you just rolled with the on thread argument and disappeared again. No added thoughts. Im still a bit torn between you and Kesso actually, but you really didnt do yourself any favors with this response. Ultama posting mid day?? Read the thread you might be able to puzzle out why Im questioning that on your own.

[Kessobahn]

Dissonance. Either you read Blend's post in the sign-up thread or not. This indicates you did, and yet you ask the "loyal servants" question early on. Plus, your game play style just changes more and more from this point onward. You go from prodding to full frontal.

Ghennan, on 28 July 2014 - 06:04 PM, said:

Skintick, on 28 July 2014 - 04:55 PM, said:

Bendal Home, on 28 July 2014 - 03:53 PM, said:

Prazec Goul, on 28 July 2014 - 03:50 PM, said:

Shhhh Ghennan don't use too big a word. You have confused the big dumb troll.

Do not fucking test me! You are slaves to be used and discarded on my order. Fucking slaves -- ungrateful c**ts!

Silly Batiatus. All this time spent watching your slaves and trying to drum up business. Keeps you up late doesn't it? Worry does that to a man especially a slaver.I bet you're so busy you haven't even noticed that your wife and both daughters are preggers.

This post looks like it might be using some hints at skin being on batiatus' side, do we think he knows who his "loyal servants" are?

Ghennan, on 28 July 2014 - 08:50 PM, said:

Skintick, on 28 July 2014 - 04:55 PM, said:

Bendal Home, on 28 July 2014 - 03:53 PM, said:

Prazec Goul, on 28 July 2014 - 03:50 PM, said:

Shhhh Ghennan don't use too big a word. You have confused the big dumb troll.

Do not fucking test me! You are slaves to be used and discarded on my order. Fucking slaves -- ungrateful c**ts!

Silly Batiatus. All this time spent watching your slaves and trying to drum up business. Keeps you up late doesn't it? Worry does that to a man especially a slaver.I bet you're so busy you haven't even noticed that your wife and both daughters are preggers.

Bendal Home, on 28 July 2014 - 08:12 PM, said:

Gladiators gather. This Ludus housed many champions in its time, and yet none greater stand before me on this day. I have secured position in the coming games! Two men to face each other in deadly contest. No quarter given, no mercy shown.SKINTICK AND DENESMET! TWO LEGENDS TO APPEASE CAPUA AND THE GODS. MAY GLORIOUS DEATH BRING RAIN.

After I mention that Skin may have been buddying up to bendal, bendal chooses to force skin to fight, but since the scum are generally better than town at combat he might be hoping for an early PI by having skin fight on day 1. This is also beneficial for them because today is the day, through sheer numbers, with the best chance of matching his scum up against one of the weaker town, who may not have received a scum combat boost role.I am very interested in how this battle comes out.(Yes I did spend a lot of time before the game thinking about what I would do if I got the tyrant role myself. Fuck you bendal!)Edit: Changed ) to (

[Kessobahn]

I am not liking Ghen sofar. There are too many indications of both driving/bullying the thread, and talking out what BH would do on thread (as if BH isn't reading everything as well). It's like on-thread communications.

And I while I know BH is a red herring, his lack of strong interaction with Ghen has me twitching. But I'm trying to stick to the non-BH related stuff for now.

[Path-Shaper]

It is now Day 2. 10 hours 32 minutes remaining.

There are 13 Players left alive: Anomandaris, Aranatha, Bendal Home, Eldat Pressen, Ghennan, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Merrid, Prazec Goul, Ryadd Eleis, Skintick, Tennes, Ultama

7 votes to lynch. 7 votes for night.

1 vote Merrid: Anomandaris
2 votes Tennes: Eldat Pressen, Iparth Erule
4 votes Ultama: Prazec Goul, Ghennan, Merrid, Kessobahn


Players not voted: Aranatha, Bendal Home, Iparth Erule, Ryadd Eleis, Skintick, Ultama

[Kessobahn]

Logic break down. I was initially impressed by Ghen's thoughtfulness about the game, attempting to think like BH.

But then his interaction with Skin was strange. I don't see why he couldn't see the benefit of delaying the arena fight a day. In fact, he seems determined to fight in the arena himself. Something is wrong with this dissonance.

Ghen pushes the concept that Skin is trying to limit information return to town instead of saving a life (however unwillingly).

Ghennan, on 29 July 2014 - 12:29 PM, said:

Skintick, on 29 July 2014 - 12:25 PM, said:

Eldat Pressen, on 29 July 2014 - 12:21 PM, said:

If both gladiators refuse to fight its will essentially be a double lynch

You misunderstandSkintick alone can take a standOne time only I may delaya fight until the eve of the next day

Ok this changed my mind, you don't have a "don't fight" mechanic, you just have a "delay the fight mechanic"?All that will do is push back the information we get from the result for another 36 hours. You and denesmet will still fight, and one will still die. Withholding information from town is not beneficial.My vote remains on skin. Edit: You CLAIM to have

All the while, Ghen ignores the "YEAAAAAHHHHs" resonating across thread like Horatio's bad one liners. And this blindness claims Skin is totally scummy, but that there is nothing of value in looking at Denesmet (a claim made without using quotes or even paraphrasing):

Ghennan, on 29 July 2014 - 01:22 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on 29 July 2014 - 01:04 PM, said:

So why is Denesmet being treated as RI when neither he nor Skin are certainly inno?I largely agree with Ghrenn's logic, being a very thorough and solid analysis of the situation.No NK does benefit town though, giving us more time to work out who are BH's thugs. I know the fight info will be lost, but I think such information (excluding the CF) will be largely WIFOM. Attention will be focus the next day on the night's results and winner rather than on what this game really is: an M&P, modified.Vote DenesmetI want to see if for all his goofing off he is covering up a scum orientation. I also want to see if Skin is lying about his ability and how the selection process works when one of the contenders is lynched. Maximal info for Day 1 lynch.

I'm not giving Denesmet a free pass by any means, if he starts looking scumlike to me I will certainly take a serious look at it. But just based on skin and bendals interactions on thread, I am of the opinion that he is the more likely to be scum, and therefore densemet is more likely to be the sacrifical town.If you think that a no NK is beneficial, do you think we want to hold off on lynching anybody until we get more fight combatants picked out by bendal?

If Skin was lynched, two townies down (since the arena match would not be delayed). Denesmet's lynch was not even a pressing matter at this point (the 3-way 2-vote tie between Ghen {ironic?}, Skin, and Denesmet). Ghen just needed to get the ball rolling on Skin, and everything would take care of itself.

I really don't like Ghen...

[Kessobahn]

Eldat Pressen, on 31 July 2014 - 01:36 AM, said:

Tennes, on 30 July 2014 - 09:37 PM, said:

I participated in the day1 talk, laid out my ideas and asked questions. Sorry I wasn't being a dick to everyone. Seriously, what the heck do you count as contribution?


So, what I think right now is that EP sucks. Anomander is a pompous ass with a good catch regarding Merrid and sucky reading comprehension. Prazec Gouls idea of how the shields would play is stupid, because of not making any waves would have led to not getting lynched, scum would have had the perfect strategy to play in every M&P game.
I also don't think the case on Ultama has much merit, it's built on him posting a lot in the middle of a day, isn't it?
The best lynch candidate right now is Merrid in my opinion.
Also, Crixus did have a game postponed during the tv series so ... (Skintick)

I will vote Merrid later in the day in absence of significant change.

I was going to do a giant fucking annoying quote wall of your D1 but it was a pain in the ass and yall can do your own damn looking up. Your D1 consists of calling people stupid and adding nothing to the conversation. Yes you had one or two actual original thoughts, but in the end you just rolled with the on thread argument and disappeared again. No added thoughts. Im still a bit torn between you and Kesso actually, but you really didnt do yourself any favors with this response. Ultama posting mid day?? Read the thread you might be able to puzzle out why Im questioning that on your own.

Simultaneously analyzing Tennes. Not seeing the problem yet.

[Kessobahn]

Ghennan, on 29 July 2014 - 09:01 PM, said:

I am going to sleep and won't be back until after time out, so I will say this before I go.

BENDAL HOME I'M CALLING YOU OUT!

Put me in the arena to face skintick you cowardly stain of a horses ass! Your mother spawned you by using an inventive method of stealing a used napkin! You impotent, weak willed, lazy eyed bastard!

PUT ME IN TO FACE HIM! I WILL TAKE DENESMETS PLACE, AND FUCKING MURDER YOUR SCUM SHIELD. BRING. IT. ON.

Why?

[Kessobahn]

Ghennan, on 30 July 2014 - 05:10 AM, said:

Skintick, on 30 July 2014 - 01:18 AM, said:

That one is on your head Ghennan. Stupid fucking c**t. And the rest of you idjuts. Signalling? SIGNALLING????

IF there was any signalling going on:

Ghennan, on 28 July 2014 - 03:41 PM, said:

Bendal Home, on 28 July 2014 - 03:29 PM, said:

Great Gladiators of house Batiatus! A new day dawns, and our glory and fortune rise with the sun. Only by shedding blood, sweat and tears will the Gods split the heavens and bless us with fucking rain!

Who among you desire glory? Better yet, who among you desire women and wine? In these wall, all is within your grasp. Train hard and have your name -- and that of Batiatus -- rise to the heights of legend!.

All I ask is obedience. Defy the gods if you must, but do not fuck with me.

Tch, one full post and you haven't even started with the insults to our mothers or suggesting we are sexually inadequate or deviant. No overt taunts or insults or egging people on and revelling in your immunity.

GET IT TOGETHER MAN! Step it up!

If you don't make us all want to kill you every time we see you post you aren't being NEARLY megalomaniacal enough.

how much fucking plainer would it need to be??

Ghennan you ignorant fucktard you really need to come up with a good reason why you lasered in on me and couldn't be bothered to look at anything else besides your stupid fucking theory. That was lazy well beyond day one standards.

Of course Bended Head was going to pick townies on day one. Because there's always reliable people like you who want to look busy and not actually do anything. That's the reason they're called scum.

My delay was one time only activated just by being picked. No good to anyone anymore. And all you lot followed the golden voice down the fairy path. The ONLY fucking reason I'm not voting for your retarded ass right off the bat is because that hammer was even scummier than you.

Yeah it's on my head and I have no fucking problem with that.

You know why? Because lacking even the most basic of town roles we are left with relying ALMOST COMPLETELY on CFs and who bendal chooses to fight, you SERIOUSLY wanted us to lynch someone bendal did not choose on day one? someone WHO WE HAD ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO VOTE FOR? And as to the "stupid fucking theory" most of the thread happened to agree with me, so I guess if you don't want stupid fucking theories to be tested you should provide better alternatives to stupid fucking theories, so people can see your giant brain at work and say "hey skintick is right that's a better idea!" but you didn't do that, you know how I know? Because that STUPID FUCKING THEORY was accepted as the best move for town.

And what ever do we do in M&P's? We have even less interaction there and somehow we manage.

[Kessobahn]

And Ghen did a WCS line up. That does it. My word...

Ok, well I am still down with the Ultima lynch, but Ghen also needs to go imho.

[Eldat Pressen]

Kessobahn, on 31 July 2014 - 02:09 AM, said:

Simultaneously analyzing Tennes. Not seeing the problem yet.

What problem are you not seeing?

[Bendal Home]

Kesso, you speak with such enthusiasm as to rival Jupiter himself. The content your words, however, fall short of proper delivery. Let me aid you in noble endeavour.

KESSOBAHN MUST SPEAK LIKE A DERANGED MAIL MAN FOR SEVEN HOURS.

edit: removed "so"

This post has been edited by Bendal Home: 31 July 2014 - 02:21 AM

[Eldat Pressen]

Bendal Home, on 31 July 2014 - 02:21 AM, said:

Kesso, you speak with such enthusiasm as to rival Jupiter himself. The content your words, however, fall short of proper delivery. Let me aid you in noble endeavour.

KESSOBAHN MUST SPEAK LIKE A DERANGED MAIL MAN FOR SEVEN HOURS.

edit: removed "so"

What the fuck is that even supposed to mean.

[Eldat Pressen]

Anyway....bed time. I should be back before time out

[Bendal Home]

Eldat Pressen, on 31 July 2014 - 02:23 AM, said:

Bendal Home, on 31 July 2014 - 02:21 AM, said:

Kesso, you speak with such enthusiasm as to rival Jupiter himself. The content your words, however, fall short of proper delivery. Let me aid you in noble endeavour.

KESSOBAHN MUST SPEAK LIKE A DERANGED MAIL MAN FOR SEVEN HOURS.

edit: removed "so"

What the fuck is that even supposed to mean.

Do I have to do everything around here. Use your fucking imagination!

[Kessobahn]

Fuck, I knew that quote box should have been addressed at Galquok, but I sincerely can't place the FREAKING LETTERHEAD!!!! IN it's proper container. Um, hmm. Why is this letter opener skinticking from my chestnik?

ALL HAIL THE GLOW CLOUD.