[Tattersail_]

Tapper, on 28 September 2014 - 05:23 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 28 September 2014 - 05:19 PM, said:

Tapper, on 28 September 2014 - 04:57 PM, said:

Arian Foster is 'limping' and the team will monitor him during the early game. Play him or don't play him, O'Brien. Think of my fantasy team!
Worst "maybe" ever. This is probably going to cost me another match-up....

Eli Mannings 40 points have just made me gasp with shock. Didn't even notice.

Too bad I picked him up after that But his numbers are in the 20s now, that makes a decent back-up.

That's probably why I didn't notice.

I think you got me this week. Stafford is not in form. I'm yet to see anything from that player who I sacked and wouldn't be playing if I had a choice. Bye week is messed up haha.

I think I can concentrate more when I get back to work.

It's funny how no one talks or gives advice in here. I don't know if I should or shouldn't swap a player out. Transfers I have no clue. I just hope my original guys live up to expectation.

[Daser]

Tattersail_, on 28 September 2014 - 05:46 PM, said:

Tapper, on 28 September 2014 - 05:23 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 28 September 2014 - 05:19 PM, said:

Tapper, on 28 September 2014 - 04:57 PM, said:

Arian Foster is 'limping' and the team will monitor him during the early game. Play him or don't play him, O'Brien. Think of my fantasy team!
Worst "maybe" ever. This is probably going to cost me another match-up....

Eli Mannings 40 points have just made me gasp with shock. Didn't even notice.

Too bad I picked him up after that But his numbers are in the 20s now, that makes a decent back-up.

That's probably why I didn't notice.

I think you got me this week. Stafford is not in form. I'm yet to see anything from that player who I sacked and wouldn't be playing if I had a choice. Bye week is messed up haha.

I think I can concentrate more when I get back to work.

It's funny how no one talks or gives advice in here. I don't know if I should or shouldn't swap a player out. Transfers I have no clue. I just hope my original guys live up to expectation.

Stafford is going to be fine. Jets sucks against the pass.

Maybe you should try find someone to advice you, who isnt competing against you.


PS: If you dont have any expert to help you, then i wont mind answering a few questions, when you are in doubt, but i am not an expert.

[Tattersail_]

Daser, on 28 September 2014 - 06:28 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 28 September 2014 - 05:46 PM, said:

Tapper, on 28 September 2014 - 05:23 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 28 September 2014 - 05:19 PM, said:

Tapper, on 28 September 2014 - 04:57 PM, said:

Arian Foster is 'limping' and the team will monitor him during the early game. Play him or don't play him, O'Brien. Think of my fantasy team!
Worst "maybe" ever. This is probably going to cost me another match-up....

Eli Mannings 40 points have just made me gasp with shock. Didn't even notice.

Too bad I picked him up after that But his numbers are in the 20s now, that makes a decent back-up.

That's probably why I didn't notice.

I think you got me this week. Stafford is not in form. I'm yet to see anything from that player who I sacked and wouldn't be playing if I had a choice. Bye week is messed up haha.

I think I can concentrate more when I get back to work.

It's funny how no one talks or gives advice in here. I don't know if I should or shouldn't swap a player out. Transfers I have no clue. I just hope my original guys live up to expectation.

Stafford is going to be fine. Jets sucks against the pass.

Maybe you should try find someone to advice you, who isnt competing against you.


PS: If you dont have any expert to help you, then i wont mind answering a few questions, when you are in doubt, but i am not an expert.

I just checked score and Stafford exceeded expectations!


Thanks for the offer. I'll message you if I'm in a sticky situation

[Tapper]

Daser, on 28 September 2014 - 06:28 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 28 September 2014 - 05:46 PM, said:

Tapper, on 28 September 2014 - 05:23 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 28 September 2014 - 05:19 PM, said:

Tapper, on 28 September 2014 - 04:57 PM, said:

Arian Foster is 'limping' and the team will monitor him during the early game. Play him or don't play him, O'Brien. Think of my fantasy team!
Worst "maybe" ever. This is probably going to cost me another match-up....

Eli Mannings 40 points have just made me gasp with shock. Didn't even notice.

Too bad I picked him up after that But his numbers are in the 20s now, that makes a decent back-up.

That's probably why I didn't notice.

I think you got me this week. Stafford is not in form. I'm yet to see anything from that player who I sacked and wouldn't be playing if I had a choice. Bye week is messed up haha.

I think I can concentrate more when I get back to work.

It's funny how no one talks or gives advice in here. I don't know if I should or shouldn't swap a player out. Transfers I have no clue. I just hope my original guys live up to expectation.

Stafford is going to be fine. Jets sucks against the pass.

Maybe you should try find someone to advice you, who isnt competing against you.


PS: If you dont have any expert to help you, then i wont mind answering a few questions, when you are in doubt, but i am not an expert.

The thing is, Tatts, the info is out there. It's even in here.
I have given you pointers where I get my info from, and I started from scratch the same way you did, as a European with no knowledge of the sport whatsoever. Vengeance gives injury updates in this thread, including last minute mentions. HD shares his thoughts vocally, so do most of us.

It is your second year in the league, so by now you should have an idea on how American Football is played. If not, then there's wiki. And the internet.

For info on the web: check sbnation.com/nfl (sbnation is affiliated with Yahoo!), Grantland.com (affiliated with ESPN) search the tag nfl, also ESPN. If you don't want to read 'external' sites, then check yahoo! itself.

And I mentioned all those sites before whether in this thread or in PM. These websites will teach you about the game and what the rules are, how strategies work, what each team's strength is, they illustrate plays and techniques with GIFs, they tell you where coaches mess up and where it is a player's action and they tip you on who's good and in form and how teams match up against one another.
They also each have fantasy dedicated articles.
In Yahoo! itself on the little icons on your team page, you can find the latest player updates.

If the articles are unreadable because you lack info on positions, names, et cetera, then google them.
And if after that you have specific questions, ask them. But your above mention of "Stafford is not in form, he has done nothing for me" is

A. Not true (brilliant week 1, above average week this week against, as Daser said, a leaking secondary - which you could have known);
B. You have Russell Wilson on your team and if you ran Wilson instead of Stafford, then why are you complaining about 3 20+ weeks from Wilson? And if you didn't put in Wilson but kept Stafford after the first disappointment? He's a good alternative;
C. you mentioned that you want to play different QBs and TEs each week, so if you want that and draft a clear QB1 and an above average QB2, everyone will assume you at the least know where and how you plan to use each - if you don't, then don't go with that strategy;
D. no-one here is going to your draft for you, or do your waiver wire, or set your lineup.

Spend a couple of hours reading about the game, then come back a week later, spend another hour and a half, and keep that up; fifteen minutes on game recaps from the previous weekend on tuesday, twice fifteen minutes on the game itself and 5 minutes on injury reports and 25 minutes on previews you're set. The rest of the time you can spend on Barry Sanders career highlights on YouTube

[Tapper]

Also, that Sproles touchdown was probably the nail in my coffin. Even with Crabtree looking injured and whatever is wrong with McCoy (seriously, did Sproles steal his mojo?), I am probably going to lose, unless Rivers starts throwing to Allen in the red zone instead of everywhere else on the field. All my hope for a come back rests with Jimmy Graham.

[HoosierDaddy]

Blargh.

[Slow Ben]

HoosierDaddy, on 28 September 2014 - 10:06 PM, said:

Blargh.

I was expecting a mini rant. I chuckled way to long at this.

[Tattersail_]

Tapper, on 28 September 2014 - 09:53 PM, said:

The thing is, Tatts, the info is out there. It's even in here.

I was away for 2 weeks in Turkey so had no way of doing that amount of research. I am not complaining at all, and especially not to you Sander. You have been the most helpful for sure. Now that I am in front of a computer I can read up on quite a lot and actually get my game head on.

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I have given you pointers where I get my info from, and I started from scratch the same way you did, as a European with no knowledge of the sport whatsoever. Vengeance gives injury updates in this thread, including last minute mentions. HD shares his thoughts vocally, so do most of us.

Twelve, Brujah, Obdi, Slow Ben are fairly quiet. I know they know more than they let on They know for example that a certain player plays well against certain teams, or what types of teams they are. Without looking it up on the internet, and sometimes we don't have that amount of time.

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It is your second year in the league, so by now you should have an idea on how American Football is played. If not, then there's wiki. And the internet.

Yeah I have a "good" grasp with how it is played, but look at the fantasy football, I am top of that at the moment, in 5 different leagues. I am on fire, I know if someone has a bad week that they may still "perform" the week after. No look at my forwards, Welbeck and Ulloa, 2 relatively unknown players that are not "ranked" high, or do not cost much, but they are there ahead of Rooney, Falcao, Balotelli, why? Well they are in form, at new clubs, scoring goals and have impressed me the last 3/4 game weeks. So I am not relying on projected points or talent. I would like to get that sort of feel for NFL. Look at Mccoy, he is ranked very high but he has done a lot less than quite a few other players. I cannot afford to leave him out my team as he was a high pick and "should" be bringing me in the points but he isn't. Now what do I do there? If I drop him and get someone in form and Mccoy explodes then that is just terrible play by me. I am kind of at a loss what to do at the moment. Stick with it, hope for the best?

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For info on the web: check sbnation.com/nfl (sbnation is affiliated with Yahoo!), Grantland.com (affiliated with ESPN) search the tag nfl, also ESPN. If you don't want to read 'external' sites, then check yahoo! itself.

And I mentioned all those sites before whether in this thread or in PM. These websites will teach you about the game and what the rules are, how strategies work, what each team's strength is, they illustrate plays and techniques with GIFs, they tell you where coaches mess up and where it is a player's action and they tip you on who's good and in form and how teams match up against one another.
They also each have fantasy dedicated articles.
In Yahoo! itself on the little icons on your team page, you can find the latest player updates.

I do check on the player updates but i don't know what is smoke and mirrors. Look at Crabtree for example, what is the different between questionable and probable? Aren't they very similar? If the player is fit to play then why tag these alongside him? Tactics? Maybe showing that they may favour another player that week, when all along he is fit and they pass to him instead? I don't know, I don't know whether to trust it.

Like last week, with AJ Green, they where saying he is a major doubt, that is injured but I took a risk and left him in my lineup and he went and smashed his projected score,little good it did me with my team under performing but you get the drift!

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If the articles are unreadable because you lack info on positions, names, et cetera, then google them.
And if after that you have specific questions, ask them. But your above mention of "Stafford is not in form, he has done nothing for me" is

A. Not true (brilliant week 1, above average week this week against, as Daser said, a leaking secondary - which you could have known);
B. You have Russell Wilson on your team and if you ran Wilson instead of Stafford, then why are you complaining about 3 20+ weeks from Wilson? And if you didn't put in Wilson but kept Stafford after the first disappointment? He's a good alternative;
C. you mentioned that you want to play different QBs and TEs each week, so if you want that and draft a clear QB1 and an above average QB2, everyone will assume you at the least know where and how you plan to use each - if you don't, then don't go with that strategy;
D. no-one here is going to your draft for you, or do your waiver wire, or set your lineup.

I was pissed off with him getting like 1 point the other week after having a stormer the week before. What's that all about, how can he go from being superb to dogshite, and back to superb? That's crazy, and yes I may have played Wilson this week because of it but he had a bye.

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Spend a couple of hours reading about the game, then come back a week later, spend another hour and a half, and keep that up; fifteen minutes on game recaps from the previous weekend on tuesday, twice fifteen minutes on the game itself and 5 minutes on injury reports and 25 minutes on previews you're set. The rest of the time you can spend on Barry Sanders career highlights on YouTube

Yes, I want to do this but I have not been able. I can concentrate a bit more now.

Who would you take out of my squad, if you were me?

[Shinrei]

Tatts, if you want some outside help that tends to be fun to read (in my opinion), there's "Start'em and Sit'em" columns all over the web. espn.go.com has one, as well as nfl.com and cbssportsline. They tend to give a pretty good breakdown about who they think will succeed in any given week and why, and who might be a bust or a sleepr based on matchup or whatever. So, if you really have a quandary about who to start, you could check out a couple of those and see if your player(s) are listed and what the expectations are. It's a lot more informative than just looking at the projected points, and will give you an actual rationale behind why you decided to start player A over player B.

[Tattersail_]

Shinrei, on 29 September 2014 - 09:18 AM, said:

Tatts, if you want some outside help that tends to be fun to read (in my opinion), there's "Start'em and Sit'em" columns all over the web. espn.go.com has one, as well as nfl.com and cbssportsline. They tend to give a pretty good breakdown about who they think will succeed in any given week and why, and who might be a bust or a sleepr based on matchup or whatever. So, if you really have a quandary about who to start, you could check out a couple of those and see if your player(s) are listed and what the expectations are. It's a lot more informative than just looking at the projected points, and will give you an actual rationale behind why you decided to start player A over player B.

There'll be a lot more investigation going on from this end now that I am sat back in front of a computer. I am going to WIN this year! (not likely but I want play offs)

[Tapper]

Tattersail_, on 29 September 2014 - 08:58 AM, said:

Yeah I have a "good" grasp with how it is played, but look at the fantasy football, I am top of that at the moment, in 5 different leagues. I am on fire, I know if someone has a bad week that they may still "perform" the week after. No look at my forwards, Welbeck and Ulloa, 2 relatively unknown players that are not "ranked" high, or do not cost much, but they are there ahead of Rooney, Falcao, Balotelli, why? Well they are in form, at new clubs, scoring goals and have impressed me the last 3/4 game weeks. So I am not relying on projected points or talent. I would like to get that sort of feel for NFL. Look at Mccoy, he is ranked very high but he has done a lot less than quite a few other players. I cannot afford to leave him out my team as he was a high pick and "should" be bringing me in the points but he isn't. Now what do I do there? If I drop him and get someone in form and Mccoy explodes then that is just terrible play by me. I am kind of at a loss what to do at the moment. Stick with it, hope for the best?

Well, McCoy played San Francisco.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/team

After the Jets, they're the most effective against the run. The Redskins, last week's opponent, are at #8, but that's only part of the problem.
McCoy isn't suddenly a worthless player. There might be an offensive line issue, maybe a confidence issue, and maybe Kelly lets Foles throw a bit more this year compared to last. There's also maybe fewer opportunities out of back field now that Sproles is part of the offense, but Sproles is hyper productive so the issue is also not with the entire Philly offense.

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For info on the web: check sbnation.com/nfl (sbnation is affiliated with Yahoo!), Grantland.com (affiliated with ESPN) search the tag nfl, also ESPN. If you don't want to read 'external' sites, then check yahoo! itself.

And I mentioned all those sites before whether in this thread or in PM. These websites will teach you about the game and what the rules are, how strategies work, what each team's strength is, they illustrate plays and techniques with GIFs, they tell you where coaches mess up and where it is a player's action and they tip you on who's good and in form and how teams match up against one another.
They also each have fantasy dedicated articles.
In Yahoo! itself on the little icons on your team page, you can find the latest player updates.

I do check on the player updates but i don't know what is smoke and mirrors. Look at Crabtree for example, what is the different between questionable and probable? Aren't they very similar? If the player is fit to play then why tag these alongside him? Tactics? Maybe showing that they may favour another player that week, when all along he is fit and they pass to him instead? I don't know, I don't know whether to trust it.

Probable is better than questionable. I guess everyone who doesn't practice every single time in the week gets a P, the Q is for players who appear injured or are on their way back.

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Like last week, with AJ Green, they where saying he is a major doubt, that is injured but I took a risk and left him in my lineup and he went and smashed his projected score,little good it did me with my team under performing but you get the drift!

Yeah, and there are game time decisions (Foster didn't play week 3 and that was only announced a few hours before the game - too late for me to pull him out and replace him, costing me a game). Basically, each team has a few studs they'll play if they're 67% or better and there's no real risk that the injury will be aggrevated (unless the coach is Shanahan and the player RG3, then the coach will play him even then....). Injuries to star players are overplayed during the fantasy draft as a risk and then consequently almost ignored for those guys during the season by their actual doctors and coaches. Broken hand? Out for only four weeks. I mean, wtf?

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I was pissed off with him getting like 1 point the other week after having a stormer the week before. What's that all about, how can he go from being superb to dogshite, and back to superb? That's crazy, and yes I may have played Wilson this week because of it but he had a bye.

That's the NFL, but part of the explanation is that Detroit was playing Greenbay, division rival, in the game that went bad for him. Those teams know each other well and apparently it was a tough matchup: Stafford threw not that many yards, his main target Calvin Johnson had issues, and he had 2 interceptions that negated part of his score. That negates 50 yards worth of throwing, which is rough.

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Who would you take out of my squad, if you were me?

I'd have a hard look at two of your players.
First, Eric Decker. He is very much a back-up on your team, and a good name to have based on what he can do, but
A. when he doesn't score a TD, he's not good enough to put in the team with about 50 yards a game - but he is getting back from an injury so may improve in the next few weeks.
B. There's lots of angry shouting at the Jets quarterback Geno Smith by Jets fans and Smith may end up benched. If so, then Michael Vick will take over. Vick is a good QB but a completely different one from Smith and that might have repercussions for Decker, whether good or bad.
C. Decker plays on a team that has no options whatsoever in the passing game except for him. So he will always have the opposition's best pass defender in his neck, probably with a lot of double coverage.

Second and more important, Fasano. I guess you dropped Rudolph because of injury and picked him up for Cameron's bye week, but Fasano is definitely NOT a long term keeper.

Sun, Sep 21
Chiefs TE Anthony Fasano caught 2-of-2 targets for 23 yards in Sunday's Week 3 tilt with the Dolphins.
Advice: Fasano's role remains locked in as Kansas City's blocking tight end, but he offers very little in the passing attack. He's a low-upside TE2 at most.
Statline so far this season: 12 catches for 91 yards, 1 TD


Compare him to Travis Kelce, also a TE, also on the Kansas City team: his direct competitor in the passing game.
Mon, Sep 22
Travis Kelce played on 47-of-72 snaps (65.2 percent) in Sunday's win at Miami.
Advice: It's up from 19 Week 1 snaps for Kelce and 32 snaps in Week 2. It shows that the Chiefs are seeing the truly special abilities their second-year tight end has, even if he was only targeted four times against the Dolphins. With his role increasing heading into a Week 4 Monday Night home game against the Patriots, Kelce is bordering on TE1 status. He's turned 15 targets into a 10 (catch) 166 (yard) 1 (TD) line this season.

They may look comparable so far, but Kelce's playtime is increasing and with that, his importance to the team.
The yardage also tells a story. Fasano gets 7.something yards per catch, Kelce more than double that: so Kelce is running deep whereas Fasano stays closer to the line of scrimmage and his own QB.

[Tattersail_]

Tapper, on 29 September 2014 - 10:36 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 29 September 2014 - 08:58 AM, said:

Yeah I have a "good" grasp with how it is played, but look at the fantasy football, I am top of that at the moment, in 5 different leagues. I am on fire, I know if someone has a bad week that they may still "perform" the week after. No look at my forwards, Welbeck and Ulloa, 2 relatively unknown players that are not "ranked" high, or do not cost much, but they are there ahead of Rooney, Falcao, Balotelli, why? Well they are in form, at new clubs, scoring goals and have impressed me the last 3/4 game weeks. So I am not relying on projected points or talent. I would like to get that sort of feel for NFL. Look at Mccoy, he is ranked very high but he has done a lot less than quite a few other players. I cannot afford to leave him out my team as he was a high pick and "should" be bringing me in the points but he isn't. Now what do I do there? If I drop him and get someone in form and Mccoy explodes then that is just terrible play by me. I am kind of at a loss what to do at the moment. Stick with it, hope for the best?

Well, McCoy played San Francisco.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/team

After the Jets, they're the most effective against the run. The Redskins, last week's opponent, are at #8, but that's only part of the problem.
McCoy isn't suddenly a worthless player. There might be an offensive line issue, maybe a confidence issue, and maybe Kelly lets Foles throw a bit more this year compared to last. There's also maybe fewer opportunities out of back field now that Sproles is part of the offense, but Sproles is hyper productive so the issue is also not with the entire Philly offense.

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For info on the web: check sbnation.com/nfl (sbnation is affiliated with Yahoo!), Grantland.com (affiliated with ESPN) search the tag nfl, also ESPN. If you don't want to read 'external' sites, then check yahoo! itself.

And I mentioned all those sites before whether in this thread or in PM. These websites will teach you about the game and what the rules are, how strategies work, what each team's strength is, they illustrate plays and techniques with GIFs, they tell you where coaches mess up and where it is a player's action and they tip you on who's good and in form and how teams match up against one another.
They also each have fantasy dedicated articles.
In Yahoo! itself on the little icons on your team page, you can find the latest player updates.

I do check on the player updates but i don't know what is smoke and mirrors. Look at Crabtree for example, what is the different between questionable and probable? Aren't they very similar? If the player is fit to play then why tag these alongside him? Tactics? Maybe showing that they may favour another player that week, when all along he is fit and they pass to him instead? I don't know, I don't know whether to trust it.

Probable is better than questionable. I guess everyone who doesn't practice every single time in the week gets a P, the Q is for players who appear injured or are on their way back.

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Like last week, with AJ Green, they where saying he is a major doubt, that is injured but I took a risk and left him in my lineup and he went and smashed his projected score,little good it did me with my team under performing but you get the drift!

Yeah, and there are game time decisions (Foster didn't play week 3 and that was only announced a few hours before the game - too late for me to pull him out and replace him, costing me a game). Basically, each team has a few studs they'll play if they're 67% or better and there's no real risk that the injury will be aggrevated (unless the coach is Shanahan and the player RG3, then the coach will play him even then....). Injuries to star players are overplayed during the fantasy draft as a risk and then consequently almost ignored for those guys during the season by their actual doctors and coaches. Broken hand? Out for only four weeks. I mean, wtf?

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I was pissed off with him getting like 1 point the other week after having a stormer the week before. What's that all about, how can he go from being superb to dogshite, and back to superb? That's crazy, and yes I may have played Wilson this week because of it but he had a bye.

That's the NFL, but part of the explanation is that Detroit was playing Greenbay, division rival, in the game that went bad for him. Those teams know each other well and apparently it was a tough matchup: Stafford threw not that many yards, his main target Calvin Johnson had issues, and he had 2 interceptions that negated part of his score. That negates 50 yards worth of throwing, which is rough.

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Who would you take out of my squad, if you were me?

I'd have a hard look at two of your players.
First, Eric Decker. He is very much a back-up on your team, and a good name to have based on what he can do, but
A. when he doesn't score a TD, he's not good enough to put in the team with about 50 yards a game - but he is getting back from an injury so may improve in the next few weeks.
B. There's lots of angry shouting at the Jets quarterback Geno Smith by Jets fans and Smith may end up benched. If so, then Michael Vick will take over. Vick is a good QB but a completely different one from Smith and that might have repercussions for Decker, whether good or bad.
C. Decker plays on a team that has no options whatsoever in the passing game except for him. So he will always have the opposition's best pass defender in his neck, probably with a lot of double coverage.

Second and more important, Fasano. I guess you dropped Rudolph because of injury and picked him up for Cameron's bye week, but Fasano is definitely NOT a long term keeper.

Sun, Sep 21
Chiefs TE Anthony Fasano caught 2-of-2 targets for 23 yards in Sunday's Week 3 tilt with the Dolphins.
Advice: Fasano's role remains locked in as Kansas City's blocking tight end, but he offers very little in the passing attack. He's a low-upside TE2 at most.
Statline so far this season: 12 catches for 91 yards, 1 TD


Compare him to Travis Kelce, also a TE, also on the Kansas City team: his direct competitor in the passing game.
Mon, Sep 22
Travis Kelce played on 47-of-72 snaps (65.2 percent) in Sunday's win at Miami.
Advice: It's up from 19 Week 1 snaps for Kelce and 32 snaps in Week 2. It shows that the Chiefs are seeing the truly special abilities their second-year tight end has, even if he was only targeted four times against the Dolphins. With his role increasing heading into a Week 4 Monday Night home game against the Patriots, Kelce is bordering on TE1 status. He's turned 15 targets into a 10 (catch) 166 (yard) 1 (TD) line this season.

They may look comparable so far, but Kelce's playtime is increasing and with that, his importance to the team.
The yardage also tells a story. Fasano gets 7.something yards per catch, Kelce more than double that: so Kelce is running deep whereas Fasano stays closer to the line of scrimmage and his own QB.

Yeah he was a one week man. I was going to transfer him for Eddie Royal this week. If I did that now, will Fasano still rack points for me, or will I have to wait until Fasano plays?

[Tapper]

Tattersail_, on 29 September 2014 - 10:51 AM, said:

Tapper, on 29 September 2014 - 10:36 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 29 September 2014 - 08:58 AM, said:

Yeah I have a "good" grasp with how it is played, but look at the fantasy football, I am top of that at the moment, in 5 different leagues. I am on fire, I know if someone has a bad week that they may still "perform" the week after. No look at my forwards, Welbeck and Ulloa, 2 relatively unknown players that are not "ranked" high, or do not cost much, but they are there ahead of Rooney, Falcao, Balotelli, why? Well they are in form, at new clubs, scoring goals and have impressed me the last 3/4 game weeks. So I am not relying on projected points or talent. I would like to get that sort of feel for NFL. Look at Mccoy, he is ranked very high but he has done a lot less than quite a few other players. I cannot afford to leave him out my team as he was a high pick and "should" be bringing me in the points but he isn't. Now what do I do there? If I drop him and get someone in form and Mccoy explodes then that is just terrible play by me. I am kind of at a loss what to do at the moment. Stick with it, hope for the best?

Well, McCoy played San Francisco.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/team

After the Jets, they're the most effective against the run. The Redskins, last week's opponent, are at #8, but that's only part of the problem.
McCoy isn't suddenly a worthless player. There might be an offensive line issue, maybe a confidence issue, and maybe Kelly lets Foles throw a bit more this year compared to last. There's also maybe fewer opportunities out of back field now that Sproles is part of the offense, but Sproles is hyper productive so the issue is also not with the entire Philly offense.

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For info on the web: check sbnation.com/nfl (sbnation is affiliated with Yahoo!), Grantland.com (affiliated with ESPN) search the tag nfl, also ESPN. If you don't want to read 'external' sites, then check yahoo! itself.

And I mentioned all those sites before whether in this thread or in PM. These websites will teach you about the game and what the rules are, how strategies work, what each team's strength is, they illustrate plays and techniques with GIFs, they tell you where coaches mess up and where it is a player's action and they tip you on who's good and in form and how teams match up against one another.
They also each have fantasy dedicated articles.
In Yahoo! itself on the little icons on your team page, you can find the latest player updates.

I do check on the player updates but i don't know what is smoke and mirrors. Look at Crabtree for example, what is the different between questionable and probable? Aren't they very similar? If the player is fit to play then why tag these alongside him? Tactics? Maybe showing that they may favour another player that week, when all along he is fit and they pass to him instead? I don't know, I don't know whether to trust it.

Probable is better than questionable. I guess everyone who doesn't practice every single time in the week gets a P, the Q is for players who appear injured or are on their way back.

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Like last week, with AJ Green, they where saying he is a major doubt, that is injured but I took a risk and left him in my lineup and he went and smashed his projected score,little good it did me with my team under performing but you get the drift!

Yeah, and there are game time decisions (Foster didn't play week 3 and that was only announced a few hours before the game - too late for me to pull him out and replace him, costing me a game). Basically, each team has a few studs they'll play if they're 67% or better and there's no real risk that the injury will be aggrevated (unless the coach is Shanahan and the player RG3, then the coach will play him even then....). Injuries to star players are overplayed during the fantasy draft as a risk and then consequently almost ignored for those guys during the season by their actual doctors and coaches. Broken hand? Out for only four weeks. I mean, wtf?

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I was pissed off with him getting like 1 point the other week after having a stormer the week before. What's that all about, how can he go from being superb to dogshite, and back to superb? That's crazy, and yes I may have played Wilson this week because of it but he had a bye.

That's the NFL, but part of the explanation is that Detroit was playing Greenbay, division rival, in the game that went bad for him. Those teams know each other well and apparently it was a tough matchup: Stafford threw not that many yards, his main target Calvin Johnson had issues, and he had 2 interceptions that negated part of his score. That negates 50 yards worth of throwing, which is rough.

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Who would you take out of my squad, if you were me?

I'd have a hard look at two of your players.
First, Eric Decker. He is very much a back-up on your team, and a good name to have based on what he can do, but
A. when he doesn't score a TD, he's not good enough to put in the team with about 50 yards a game - but he is getting back from an injury so may improve in the next few weeks.
B. There's lots of angry shouting at the Jets quarterback Geno Smith by Jets fans and Smith may end up benched. If so, then Michael Vick will take over. Vick is a good QB but a completely different one from Smith and that might have repercussions for Decker, whether good or bad.
C. Decker plays on a team that has no options whatsoever in the passing game except for him. So he will always have the opposition's best pass defender in his neck, probably with a lot of double coverage.

Second and more important, Fasano. I guess you dropped Rudolph because of injury and picked him up for Cameron's bye week, but Fasano is definitely NOT a long term keeper.

Sun, Sep 21
Chiefs TE Anthony Fasano caught 2-of-2 targets for 23 yards in Sunday's Week 3 tilt with the Dolphins.
Advice: Fasano's role remains locked in as Kansas City's blocking tight end, but he offers very little in the passing attack. He's a low-upside TE2 at most.
Statline so far this season: 12 catches for 91 yards, 1 TD


Compare him to Travis Kelce, also a TE, also on the Kansas City team: his direct competitor in the passing game.
Mon, Sep 22
Travis Kelce played on 47-of-72 snaps (65.2 percent) in Sunday's win at Miami.
Advice: It's up from 19 Week 1 snaps for Kelce and 32 snaps in Week 2. It shows that the Chiefs are seeing the truly special abilities their second-year tight end has, even if he was only targeted four times against the Dolphins. With his role increasing heading into a Week 4 Monday Night home game against the Patriots, Kelce is bordering on TE1 status. He's turned 15 targets into a 10 (catch) 166 (yard) 1 (TD) line this season.

They may look comparable so far, but Kelce's playtime is increasing and with that, his importance to the team.
The yardage also tells a story. Fasano gets 7.something yards per catch, Kelce more than double that: so Kelce is running deep whereas Fasano stays closer to the line of scrimmage and his own QB.

Yeah he was a one week man. I was going to transfer him for Eddie Royal this week. If I did that now, will Fasano still rack points for me, or will I have to wait until Fasano plays?

I think the change only goes through by tuesday, since Royal already played (and scored well). It would be a bit weird if you could pick up people on hindsight, right?

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Tapper, on 29 September 2014 - 11:58 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 29 September 2014 - 10:51 AM, said:

Tapper, on 29 September 2014 - 10:36 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 29 September 2014 - 08:58 AM, said:

Yeah I have a "good" grasp with how it is played, but look at the fantasy football, I am top of that at the moment, in 5 different leagues. I am on fire, I know if someone has a bad week that they may still "perform" the week after. No look at my forwards, Welbeck and Ulloa, 2 relatively unknown players that are not "ranked" high, or do not cost much, but they are there ahead of Rooney, Falcao, Balotelli, why? Well they are in form, at new clubs, scoring goals and have impressed me the last 3/4 game weeks. So I am not relying on projected points or talent. I would like to get that sort of feel for NFL. Look at Mccoy, he is ranked very high but he has done a lot less than quite a few other players. I cannot afford to leave him out my team as he was a high pick and "should" be bringing me in the points but he isn't. Now what do I do there? If I drop him and get someone in form and Mccoy explodes then that is just terrible play by me. I am kind of at a loss what to do at the moment. Stick with it, hope for the best?

Well, McCoy played San Francisco.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/team

After the Jets, they're the most effective against the run. The Redskins, last week's opponent, are at #8, but that's only part of the problem.
McCoy isn't suddenly a worthless player. There might be an offensive line issue, maybe a confidence issue, and maybe Kelly lets Foles throw a bit more this year compared to last. There's also maybe fewer opportunities out of back field now that Sproles is part of the offense, but Sproles is hyper productive so the issue is also not with the entire Philly offense.

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For info on the web: check sbnation.com/nfl (sbnation is affiliated with Yahoo!), Grantland.com (affiliated with ESPN) search the tag nfl, also ESPN. If you don't want to read 'external' sites, then check yahoo! itself.

And I mentioned all those sites before whether in this thread or in PM. These websites will teach you about the game and what the rules are, how strategies work, what each team's strength is, they illustrate plays and techniques with GIFs, they tell you where coaches mess up and where it is a player's action and they tip you on who's good and in form and how teams match up against one another.
They also each have fantasy dedicated articles.
In Yahoo! itself on the little icons on your team page, you can find the latest player updates.

I do check on the player updates but i don't know what is smoke and mirrors. Look at Crabtree for example, what is the different between questionable and probable? Aren't they very similar? If the player is fit to play then why tag these alongside him? Tactics? Maybe showing that they may favour another player that week, when all along he is fit and they pass to him instead? I don't know, I don't know whether to trust it.

Probable is better than questionable. I guess everyone who doesn't practice every single time in the week gets a P, the Q is for players who appear injured or are on their way back.

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Like last week, with AJ Green, they where saying he is a major doubt, that is injured but I took a risk and left him in my lineup and he went and smashed his projected score,little good it did me with my team under performing but you get the drift!

Yeah, and there are game time decisions (Foster didn't play week 3 and that was only announced a few hours before the game - too late for me to pull him out and replace him, costing me a game). Basically, each team has a few studs they'll play if they're 67% or better and there's no real risk that the injury will be aggrevated (unless the coach is Shanahan and the player RG3, then the coach will play him even then....). Injuries to star players are overplayed during the fantasy draft as a risk and then consequently almost ignored for those guys during the season by their actual doctors and coaches. Broken hand? Out for only four weeks. I mean, wtf?

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I was pissed off with him getting like 1 point the other week after having a stormer the week before. What's that all about, how can he go from being superb to dogshite, and back to superb? That's crazy, and yes I may have played Wilson this week because of it but he had a bye.

That's the NFL, but part of the explanation is that Detroit was playing Greenbay, division rival, in the game that went bad for him. Those teams know each other well and apparently it was a tough matchup: Stafford threw not that many yards, his main target Calvin Johnson had issues, and he had 2 interceptions that negated part of his score. That negates 50 yards worth of throwing, which is rough.

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Who would you take out of my squad, if you were me?

I'd have a hard look at two of your players.
First, Eric Decker. He is very much a back-up on your team, and a good name to have based on what he can do, but
A. when he doesn't score a TD, he's not good enough to put in the team with about 50 yards a game - but he is getting back from an injury so may improve in the next few weeks.
B. There's lots of angry shouting at the Jets quarterback Geno Smith by Jets fans and Smith may end up benched. If so, then Michael Vick will take over. Vick is a good QB but a completely different one from Smith and that might have repercussions for Decker, whether good or bad.
C. Decker plays on a team that has no options whatsoever in the passing game except for him. So he will always have the opposition's best pass defender in his neck, probably with a lot of double coverage.

Second and more important, Fasano. I guess you dropped Rudolph because of injury and picked him up for Cameron's bye week, but Fasano is definitely NOT a long term keeper.

Sun, Sep 21
Chiefs TE Anthony Fasano caught 2-of-2 targets for 23 yards in Sunday's Week 3 tilt with the Dolphins.
Advice: Fasano's role remains locked in as Kansas City's blocking tight end, but he offers very little in the passing attack. He's a low-upside TE2 at most.
Statline so far this season: 12 catches for 91 yards, 1 TD


Compare him to Travis Kelce, also a TE, also on the Kansas City team: his direct competitor in the passing game.
Mon, Sep 22
Travis Kelce played on 47-of-72 snaps (65.2 percent) in Sunday's win at Miami.
Advice: It's up from 19 Week 1 snaps for Kelce and 32 snaps in Week 2. It shows that the Chiefs are seeing the truly special abilities their second-year tight end has, even if he was only targeted four times against the Dolphins. With his role increasing heading into a Week 4 Monday Night home game against the Patriots, Kelce is bordering on TE1 status. He's turned 15 targets into a 10 (catch) 166 (yard) 1 (TD) line this season.

They may look comparable so far, but Kelce's playtime is increasing and with that, his importance to the team.
The yardage also tells a story. Fasano gets 7.something yards per catch, Kelce more than double that: so Kelce is running deep whereas Fasano stays closer to the line of scrimmage and his own QB.

Yeah he was a one week man. I was going to transfer him for Eddie Royal this week. If I did that now, will Fasano still rack points for me, or will I have to wait until Fasano plays?

I think the change only goes through by tuesday, since Royal already played (and scored well). It would be a bit weird if you could pick up people on hindsight, right?

Yeah I know I wouldn't have his point for this week, but I don't want to not have Fasano's measly points

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My wish came true. Kansas City my saviors.

[HoosierDaddy]

What the hell is going on in this thread? Tatts, I love your enthusiasm about football.

All you have to do is ask man, we want the sport to grow to re-edumacate you Euro softies about "proper" football. (A joke. I love soccer. 2nd favorite sport.)

That being said, you are in a league with people who grew up playing this sport, so you're kind of behind the 8 ball. We won't help you WIN, but we will help you PLAY as much as we can.

Th EPL is awesome to watch and play fantasy with, but it is FAR more subjective. NFL has things that are far more projective, but also full of chance.

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HoosierDaddy, on 30 September 2014 - 06:09 AM, said:

What the hell is going on in this thread? Tatts, I love your enthusiasm about football.

All you have to do is ask man, we want the sport to grow to re-edumacate you Euro softies about "proper" football. (A joke. I love soccer. 2nd favorite sport.)

That being said, you are in a league with people who grew up playing this sport, so you're kind of behind the 8 ball. We won't help you WIN, but we will help you PLAY as much as we can.

Th EPL is awesome to watch and play fantasy with, but it is FAR more subjective. NFL has things that are far more projective, but also full of chance.

Yeah sure.

What do you think of me picking up Eddie Royale for that TE I just picked up?

[HoosierDaddy]

I think Eddie Royale is a flash in the pan WR, so I'd not pick him up if it were a waiver wire. Non-waiver? Eh, Stash him and see what happens.

[Tapper]

Tattersail_, on 30 September 2014 - 05:47 AM, said:

My wish came true. Kansas City my saviors.

Yeah. Second week Arian Foster cost me the match-up.
Switched him in and Travis Kelce out on saturday, then kept Foster in on my 10-to-match time "set final line-up" check that I made myself do after the week 3 debacle when he didn't play (and Miller's 13 points would have put me over ZoomZoomZoom for a win).

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Tapper, on 30 September 2014 - 07:27 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 30 September 2014 - 05:47 AM, said:

My wish came true. Kansas City my saviors.

Yeah. Second week Arian Foster cost me the match-up.
Switched him in and Travis Kelce out on saturday, then kept Foster in on my 10-to-match time "set final line-up" check that I made myself do after the week 3 debacle when he didn't play (and Miller's 13 points would have put me over ZoomZoomZoom for a win).

2 points in it, the Patriots have been playing well too!

I didn't believe I would pull out a win, you were mightily unlucky