[Inane Babble]

Shinrei's interactions with people still alive

http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1132233

Joke vote on HO

http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1132247

Suggest tatts signalling to me

More banter against HO, nothing serious yet

http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1132444

Berates mess for the changed avatar, declares willingness to vote me

http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1132480

Votes me after voting for Khell and Khell is being more active on thread

http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1132496

Now states suspicion of unfound as well as me (going for the easy targets)

http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1132660

Suspicious of AM

http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1132662

Misses end of day due to confusion as to how long a 24 hour period is.

http://forum.malazan...71#entry1132671

Still berating mess for the avatar swap

http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1132688

Banter with EM

http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1132855

Dislikes Mess calling him the killer, refutes any possible reason for the killer to try and signal on thread, despite the very obvious one; he hasn't found the symp yet and is sending out feelers

http://forum.malazan...57#entry1132857

Refutes mess's case against him. Very poor choice of wording here, and he seems to be saying "my actions are ambiguous! not scum specific!" Which isn't really the best defense...

http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1132885

Jumps on the first chance to "seriously" vote on HO, not that it's an actually case or meaningful "discovery" despite how shin treats it.

http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1132919

States part of his desire to lynch HO is due to meta, he is posting more than previous games and this deserves to die?

http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1132923

Brings up possibility of a vig in game.

http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1132935

Then backs off it almost instantly. I am at this point amazed at how contentless his posts are. A few lines all over the place, never useful.

http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1132959

Another dig at HO for past games

http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1132994

Another vote for HO, once again posed as a joke vote to prevent anything coming back to him. But this time it is actively interfering with the lynch with 7 minutes left. Extremely poor timing for a "joke".

http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1133044

Asks me for why I wanted a tatt lynch, which I answer here: http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1133051

http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1133136


He ignores my explanation, and still accuses me of having an unreasonably certain stance on wanting him dead, despite having said earlier that even though the tatts lynch wasn't conrete he didn't have any alternatives (http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1132986)

http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1133137

Piggybacking off Tattersails post to once more assert suspicion on the new guys

http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1133139

Once more on HO for the tired old reason of not being lynched yesterday. "we didn't kill you, that means we should kill you" I still don't buy it, or believe it is anything more than this apparently all consuming vendetta


The main thing that stands out is just how much effort seems to go in to say so little here, are short, content-less but frequent posts a hallmark of shinrei? Because it looks like an active poster trying to lie low and avoid making waves.

Thoughts?

[Messremb]

Thought 1 (tired and on my phone so expect low coherence): Put actual quotes in, not links.

Thought 2: Yes, as I said before I think Shin potentially our killer. No-one till now has thought similar.

Thought 3: Meta and grudge are not good reasons for voting someone. The jumping on board shortly after I vote HO stinks.

[Shinrei]

Messremb, on 03 July 2014 - 08:35 AM, said:

Thought 1 (tired and on my phone so expect low coherence): Put actual quotes in, not links.

Thought 2: Yes, as I said before I think Shin potentially our killer. No-one till now has thought similar.

Thought 3: Meta and grudge are not good reasons for voting someone. The jumping on board shortly after I vote HO stinks.

No, the fact you didn't read the reasoning I'm making the vote stinks. Read my observations. What I say makes perfect logical sense. Refute my logic, rather than assume it's just a grudge.

As for you, "InaneBabble", I just made salient points about EVERYONE LEFT IN THE GAME.

When have you bothered to analyze and write your thoughts out about everyone else still alive? Link me, please. Oh wait, you can't. Yesterday I called YOU out for coming on and saying "Tatts is best vote" with nary an explanation, and now you call my posts content-less.

Either you both are being lazy and not reading what I wrote, or you are being deliberately disingenuous.

[Shinrei]

Inane Babble, on 03 July 2014 - 08:22 AM, said:

http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1133137

Piggybacking off Tattersails post to once more assert suspicion on the new guys

You've totally misunderstood this post. I use Tattersail's logic to essentially PI Unfound, not assert suspicion. Way to get it completely backwards.

[Shinrei]

Rather, PI Unfound of Killerhood. He could still be symp.

[Shinrei]

Inane Babble, on 03 July 2014 - 08:22 AM, said:

http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1133139

Once more on HO for the tired old reason of not being lynched yesterday. "we didn't kill you, that means we should kill you" I still don't buy it, or believe it is anything more than this apparently all consuming vendetta

And sure, I can concede that I have vendetta against HO, and that it may have even colored my vision on Day 2. You thought Tatts was the best vote, I wasn't convinced and so went with another target. That does not somehow preclude that a HO lynch today could yield information (or hey, win the game!).

[The Unfound]

Hey Hey Hey....good morning everyone. Im going to give the thread a good once over

[The Unfound]

Messremb, on 01 July 2014 - 08:20 AM, said:

Sir Thursday, on 30 June 2014 - 11:57 PM, said:

Messremb, on 30 June 2014 - 11:39 PM, said:

Just got to point out how you could be seen to be signalling Khell and AM with your first quoted posts here :pOh and avatar is back to normal

Why do you leave yourself out from that list? I've interacted with you just as much as the other two . Actually, you've been bouncing around an awful lot - when I read through I found you trying interact with at least half the players in the game:Tattersail - Post 84Hidden One - Post 86Gust Hubb - Post 97Inane Babble - Post 113Khellendros - Post 142Sir Thursday - Post 149Quite an impressive list, it must be said.ETA: X-Post with Messremb leaving for the night.

Aye, agreed - I make a terrible symp. How are my masters to tell who I am signalling their partner is from that? Sorry but if no-one interacts we're screwed.

Sir Thursday, on 01 July 2014 - 12:01 AM, said:

In fact, given the way Messremb has been spraying himself across the thread, I think I'll leave my vote where it is for now. In a normal game I'd applaud him for trying to create those interactions, but in a game where signalling is going to be paramount I feel like he could be trying to muddy the waters a bit. Consider this an upgrade from a joke vote to a 'slightly more serious, I'm about to go to bed now and feel better having left a vote down' type vote.ST

I guess this is a kick to me to go and look for technical interactions on thread? Not sure I have the time - 5 hours left maybe and I need to do some work at least. I will be around, just can't do too much when my boss sits behind me.

Ok on the re read I still think Tatts catching this is a valid argument for HO. Im not sure if Gusty ever followed up on checking to see if it really was 5 hours to time out. I did and the actual time to EOD was 4 hours 40 min. So close enough to be a valid statement in my mind. I think this is the hardest evidence we have have so far. I do remember reading through a game before I started playing where Mess was talking about signalling using some ridiculously complicated code so it would fit his MO. And as Shin said Hidden's CF will actually now tell us something. I still like AM as the other killer but there is simply no hard evidence there that I can give. Just meta and some gut from me. So in that line of thinking

Remove Vote
Vote Hiddenone

[EmperorMagus]

Shinrei, on 03 July 2014 - 01:37 AM, said:

Ok, Azathmaster and HO

Azathmaster is low on contribution, low coasting, but there isn't much there.

HO, as I have already pointed out has some meta against him. However, he also has more potential symps (Messremb/IB/Gust) who were around at the end of day, and did not show any willingness to vote for HO. Both trains were close, and it could have gone either way, but it didn't. It adds a little more potential to HO being the remaining killer over Azath. Of course, Messremb is voting HO now, so we have to wonder how much we believe or don't believe Mess to be the symp.


Vote HiddenOne

HO said yesterday that a lynch of him would not yield much information. I do not think that is any longer the case.

I agree that after Tattersail's CF, HO would be a good target for the lynch, but we should consider the numbers:
We have 8 people alive, which means tomorrow will be the Dday, If AM is scum then we won't be able to lynch him tomorrow because of how little information we have on him.
So, I would prefer we lynch AM today, see who ends up dead tonight and then start tomorrow knowing that we don't have a total unknown in the middle of us.

Vote AM

[Gust Hubb]

Shinrei, on 03 July 2014 - 01:37 AM, said:

Ok, Azathmaster and HO

Azathmaster is low on contribution, low coasting, but there isn't much there.

HO, as I have already pointed out has some meta against him. However, he also has more potential symps (Messremb/IB/Gust) who were around at the end of day, and did not show any willingness to vote for HO. Both trains were close, and it could have gone either way, but it didn't. It adds a little more potential to HO being the remaining killer over Azath. Of course, Messremb is voting HO now, so we have to wonder how much we believe or don't believe Mess to be the symp.


Vote HiddenOne

HO said yesterday that a lynch of him would not yield much information. I do not think that is any longer the case.

This is not all that convincing Shin. It's interesting how: one, you bring up the possibility that Mess is not the symp and still vote HO and two, that your cursory suspicion of Azath still doesn't sound alarm bells. I have been suspicious of Azath for a while now, and frankly, that dude is lying low. It's time he be hung high and exposed to the truth.

Vote Azath

Edit: trying to bold on a phone sucks.

This post has been edited by Gust Hubb: 03 July 2014 - 11:50 AM

[Vengeance]

It is now Day 3

1 hours and 11 minutes left in the day.

Still alive: AzathMaster, EM,GH, HO,Inane Babble ,Messem,Shinrei, The Unfound

5 votes to lynch and 4 votes for night.

3 vote for HO (messremb, Shinrei,unfound)
1 vote for azathmaster( EM )

[HiddenOne]

ok, I'm back

first let me

Vote Azathmaster

As the only other candidate, and I never know what will happen in the office

I really hope the next game I play has a different time of day for timeout

[Gust Hubb]

The Unfound, on 03 July 2014 - 11:19 AM, said:

Messremb, on 01 July 2014 - 08:20 AM, said:

Sir Thursday, on 30 June 2014 - 11:57 PM, said:

Messremb, on 30 June 2014 - 11:39 PM, said:

Just got to point out how you could be seen to be signalling Khell and AM with your first quoted posts here :pOh and avatar is back to normal

Why do you leave yourself out from that list? I've interacted with you just as much as the other two . Actually, you've been bouncing around an awful lot - when I read through I found you trying interact with at least half the players in the game:Tattersail - Post 84Hidden One - Post 86Gust Hubb - Post 97Inane Babble - Post 113Khellendros - Post 142Sir Thursday - Post 149Quite an impressive list, it must be said.ETA: X-Post with Messremb leaving for the night.

Aye, agreed - I make a terrible symp. How are my masters to tell who I am signalling their partner is from that? Sorry but if no-one interacts we're screwed.

Sir Thursday, on 01 July 2014 - 12:01 AM, said:

In fact, given the way Messremb has been spraying himself across the thread, I think I'll leave my vote where it is for now. In a normal game I'd applaud him for trying to create those interactions, but in a game where signalling is going to be paramount I feel like he could be trying to muddy the waters a bit. Consider this an upgrade from a joke vote to a 'slightly more serious, I'm about to go to bed now and feel better having left a vote down' type vote.ST

I guess this is a kick to me to go and look for technical interactions on thread? Not sure I have the time - 5 hours left maybe and I need to do some work at least. I will be around, just can't do too much when my boss sits behind me.

Ok on the re read I still think Tatts catching this is a valid argument for HO. Im not sure if Gusty ever followed up on checking to see if it really was 5 hours to time out. I did and the actual time to EOD was 4 hours 40 min. So close enough to be a valid statement in my mind. I think this is the hardest evidence we have have so far. I do remember reading through a game before I started playing where Mess was talking about signalling using some ridiculously complicated code so it would fit his MO. And as Shin said Hidden's CF will actually now tell us something. I still like AM as the other killer but there is simply no hard evidence there that I can give. Just meta and some gut from me. So in that line of thinking

Remove Vote
Vote Hiddenone

This makes even less sense waffle cone. With 5 hours confirmed, the concept of a hidden signal seems even less likely. Moreover, Mess is voting HO just like he voted for Tatts. i don't see a signalling connection, at least nothing as convincing as that of Azath. Plus, why am I alive still in this game? If the killer was anyone but Azath, I would be dead in a heartbeat, since killing me would draw attention to him (more so than an on thread "joke" vote).

[HiddenOne]

or you could be the killer, Hubb - you do tend to draw the NK when inno

hmmm

[Gust Hubb]

And that is 3 to 3 on the vote count with Azath(who will vote HO) and IB left.

[Gust Hubb]

HiddenOne, on 03 July 2014 - 11:59 AM, said:

or you could be the killer, Hubb - you do tend to draw the NK when inno

hmmm

I know! I am surprised that I am not dead yet. which is one reason why I look at Azath with mounting alarm.

[Azathmaster]

Well since the only other target than me is HO, I guess I'll

Vote HO

I am not scum, just a townie with less time to post than expected.

[Gust Hubb]

That or I am so completely off base that I am no threat to the real killer.

[Gust Hubb]

Azathmaster, on 03 July 2014 - 12:02 PM, said:

Well since the only other target than me is HO, I guess I'll

Vote HO

I am not scum, just a townie with less time to post than expected.

Common excuse of little meaning.

[The Unfound]

Gust Hubb, on 03 July 2014 - 11:57 AM, said:

The Unfound, on 03 July 2014 - 11:19 AM, said:

Messremb, on 01 July 2014 - 08:20 AM, said:

Sir Thursday, on 30 June 2014 - 11:57 PM, said:

Messremb, on 30 June 2014 - 11:39 PM, said:

Just got to point out how you could be seen to be signalling Khell and AM with your first quoted posts here :pOh and avatar is back to normal

Why do you leave yourself out from that list? I've interacted with you just as much as the other two . Actually, you've been bouncing around an awful lot - when I read through I found you trying interact with at least half the players in the game:Tattersail - Post 84Hidden One - Post 86Gust Hubb - Post 97Inane Babble - Post 113Khellendros - Post 142Sir Thursday - Post 149Quite an impressive list, it must be said.ETA: X-Post with Messremb leaving for the night.

Aye, agreed - I make a terrible symp. How are my masters to tell who I am signalling their partner is from that? Sorry but if no-one interacts we're screwed.

Sir Thursday, on 01 July 2014 - 12:01 AM, said:

In fact, given the way Messremb has been spraying himself across the thread, I think I'll leave my vote where it is for now. In a normal game I'd applaud him for trying to create those interactions, but in a game where signalling is going to be paramount I feel like he could be trying to muddy the waters a bit. Consider this an upgrade from a joke vote to a 'slightly more serious, I'm about to go to bed now and feel better having left a vote down' type vote.ST

I guess this is a kick to me to go and look for technical interactions on thread? Not sure I have the time - 5 hours left maybe and I need to do some work at least. I will be around, just can't do too much when my boss sits behind me.

Ok on the re read I still think Tatts catching this is a valid argument for HO. Im not sure if Gusty ever followed up on checking to see if it really was 5 hours to time out. I did and the actual time to EOD was 4 hours 40 min. So close enough to be a valid statement in my mind. I think this is the hardest evidence we have have so far. I do remember reading through a game before I started playing where Mess was talking about signalling using some ridiculously complicated code so it would fit his MO. And as Shin said Hidden's CF will actually now tell us something. I still like AM as the other killer but there is simply no hard evidence there that I can give. Just meta and some gut from me. So in that line of thinking

Remove Vote
Vote Hiddenone

This makes even less sense waffle cone. With 5 hours confirmed, the concept of a hidden signal seems even less likely. Moreover, Mess is voting HO just like he voted for Tatts. i don't see a signalling connection, at least nothing as convincing as that of Azath. Plus, why am I alive still in this game? If the killer was anyone but Azath, I would be dead in a heartbeat, since killing me would draw attention to him (more so than an on thread "joke" vote).

Normally I would tend to agree with you on this but with the majority of most of our days being pretty much inactive so far I dont see it as so far of a stretch. I definitely still see your point on AM and I already made the point that I felt that he was scum laying really low.