[Ampelas]

Nimander Golit, on 25 June 2014 - 02:24 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 25 June 2014 - 02:15 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 25 June 2014 - 02:11 PM, said:

How you expect someone to give you a compelling case to get behind when you're not even giving them 1/3 of a day to make a decision (consider we're, what, less than 8 hours into the Day) is beyond me... It seems to me that you're just trying to sneak a fast lynch past us. I've even given you a chance to at least remove, but this amount of certainty on a potential D Day is ridiculous.

vote Ampelas

I'll remove if you remove. There's no positives in putting Denul at L-1 in the first 8 hours of a potential D-Day.

Christ fine

Remove Vote

Lets slog through it then. Still voting Denul though.

I'm not asking you to change your mind, I'm asking you to give everyone a chance to say something on thread instead of leaving it open for scum to win if Denul isn't scum.

remove vote
vote Sukul Ankhadu

Sukul, same deal as I made with Ampelas, I'll remove if you remove.

I want to hear from HP and Liosan before I decide for sure where to drop my vote. Right now, I'm leaning towards Denul, but I'd like to hear everyone's opinion on a potential D-Day before actually placing my vote.

I think you will have a bit of a wait with that.

While you are here, what do you think of GLs lynch trains?

[Nimander Golit]

Sukul Ankhadu, on 25 June 2014 - 02:30 PM, said:

No.
he can spit and cry all he wants. If he's town its a dick fucking move on his part. Vote me all you want nimander, I ain't going for your 'deal'.

So you're willing to just hand the game to scum cause you don't like Denul? If Denul is not scum, then even if there are only 2 scum, assuming you're not one of them, all they need to do is vote him out, right now.

[Barghast]

Denul, on 25 June 2014 - 01:55 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 25 June 2014 - 01:49 PM, said:

Denul, on 25 June 2014 - 01:44 PM, said:

Oh if that is a hammer on my self then well done AMP and maccy. Maccy you played a shitty fucking game you totally deserve to win. Fuck head. Also the rest of town you guys are a fucking joke.

I do not think it is the hammer, you are currently at 3 votes by my count?

Always such a please to play with you when you start throwing your toys out of the fucking crib.

Well you always know which buttons to push.

I am perfectly fine with my lynch today and I am logging of. Have a nice day.

don't log off, check back in later.

[Nimander Golit]

Ampelas, on 25 June 2014 - 02:31 PM, said:

While you are here, what do you think of GLs lynch trains?

I think you've done a good job of picking them apart - I also find it interesting that Liosan, Denul and HP seem connected to all three trains. It's one of the main reasons my vote is most likely going to Denul today, in fact. I wouldn't mind going to Liosan or HP either, my preference among the two being Liosan, but I feel that with the lynch analysis, combined with his bringing the thread back to the GL WIFOM for three days running, and the "Oh, I figured Eloth was town" comment he made AFTER getting a CF, paints a pretty ugly picture where Denul is involved.

[Barghast]

Nimander you make some sense. I like it. Continue.

I dislike Amp's initial vote, I dislike his remove vote after you pressure it. I like Sukul's stance against Denul, I like Denul's anger, I can get behind those sorts of things.

Denul, if you are around then you need to analyse further. There's 3 scum left and that means we need each and every town on the ball, and willing to vote. One wrong step by one member of town and we are fucked.

In fact, that's what was niggling me behind Amp's vote, if he was wrong then scum can jump on it and win.

Why was he so confident early into D day to lay down a vote.

[Ampelas]

Barghast, on 25 June 2014 - 02:48 PM, said:

Nimander you make some sense. I like it. Continue.

I dislike Amp's initial vote, I dislike his remove vote after you pressure it. I like Sukul's stance against Denul, I like Denul's anger, I can get behind those sorts of things.

Denul, if you are around then you need to analyse further. There's 3 scum left and that means we need each and every town on the ball, and willing to vote. One wrong step by one member of town and we are fucked.

In fact, that's what was niggling me behind Amp's vote, if he was wrong then scum can jump on it and win.

Why was he so confident early into D day to lay down a vote.

Denul blows any other case I have seen clear out of the water. After his agressive responses to me yesterday I felt vindicated enough to vote him after I saw the GL CF. But I have removed it and am willing to wait to see what the others have to say.

[Denul]

The totality of Sukul's contribution to this game. For the entirety of the fucking game absolutely nothing. Honestly Sukul if you hadn't wanted to play you should have told PS to fuck off if you didn't sign up. Look at that shit. Totally worthless. If you town you are the shittiest town player who has ever had the misfortune get lost on line and play mafia. If you are scum then fuck you. Basically fuck you. Based off of your posts you should have been lynched on day one.

Sukul Ankhadu, on 17 June 2014 - 06:43 PM, said:

Slightly disturbed by the hello kitty fetish

Sukul Ankhadu, on 17 June 2014 - 09:09 PM, said:

Rule 34 means it exists.
but I'm going to bed before someone posts it

Sukul Ankhadu, on 18 June 2014 - 06:06 AM, said:

Well that was an exciting night.
way to be reaching for any excuse for a vote Pallid

Sukul Ankhadu, on 18 June 2014 - 05:58 PM, said:

Ugh, stop with the repeated embedded quotes you fuckwits.
trying to read up.
as of page 2 I was unimpressed with Pallids monkey in shit fight approach

Sukul Ankhadu, on 19 June 2014 - 11:53 AM, said:

vote Kaschan

why?
that post right above me, so nonchalant"oh I could have told he was going to flip town"
oh fuck off

Sukul Ankhadu, on 19 June 2014 - 12:08 PM, said:

He's dead. Its meat and potatoes. It wasn't a lynch.

Sukul Ankhadu, on 19 June 2014 - 12:09 PM, said:

Follow up post leaves me even happier with my vote.

Sukul Ankhadu, on 19 June 2014 - 03:30 PM, said:

Honestly? I haven't even read the end of day. I got pissed of with the wall of quotes, I'm not remotely interested in this game at the minute because I don't have time to avidly read it all up. I've requested replacement and am keeping the ball sort of rolling until that happens. So there's a good 1 1/2 or 2 pages I haven't even read, and won't be reading. I Logged on jumped to the end, scrolled back to see how day ended. And then Kaschan popped up like a scummy wack a mole

[Denul]

Sukul Ankhadu, on 19 June 2014 - 05:25 PM, said:

I didn't even sign up, if you want to off me work away.

Sukul Ankhadu, on 22 June 2014 - 02:26 PM, said:

Hungover

Sukul Ankhadu, on 23 June 2014 - 07:41 PM, said:

Everyone's been wrong?
how the hell do we know? There's no CF, so we could have been right.

I could vote Barghast, Denul or I forget my third option.
Barghast was a feeling from yesterday, Denul is partly due to an abiding hatred i seem to carry in every game for the alt. Needs to stop being given to people who look scummy to me.

Sukul Ankhadu, on 23 June 2014 - 08:50 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 23 June 2014 - 07:48 PM, said:

Sukul Ankhadu, on 23 June 2014 - 07:41 PM, said:

Everyone's been wrong?
how the hell do we know? There's no CF, so we could have been right.

I could vote Barghast, Denul or I forget my third option.
Barghast was a feeling from yesterday, Denul is partly due to an abiding hatred i seem to carry in every game for the alt. Needs to stop being given to people who look scummy to me.

Shinrei, on 19 June 2014 - 02:41 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 19 June 2014 - 01:52 PM, said:

Shinrei, on 19 June 2014 - 01:46 PM, said:

I have edited the player name into the Pallid CF.

Will we get CFs when scum die at least?

Yes. Obfuscating that wouldn't be very M&P.

I stand corrected

Sukul Ankhadu, on 23 June 2014 - 08:53 PM, said:

Why not just vote him now? I don't understand this logic.

Sukul Ankhadu, on 23 June 2014 - 09:17 PM, said:

Id vote Barghast or Denul.
showering then bed

That has got to be the most retarded fucking post in the history of mafia. Your earlier posts with 5 to 7 words.

Sukul Ankhadu, on 23 June 2014 - 09:39 PM, said:

Read my earlier posts.

and your last stretch was unbelievable reaching, why would players be stupid enough to grats each other on thread at dodging a lynch? You make your case less credible with nonsense like that

Sukul Ankhadu, on 24 June 2014 - 11:51 AM, said:

I'll vote him.
throwing wifom and muddying the waters. I was voting denul or barghast anyway

vote denul

Sukul Ankhadu, on 25 June 2014 - 06:03 AM, said:

Fuck that. This is stupid, GL is clearly not scum

Sukul Ankhadu, on 25 June 2014 - 09:40 AM, said:

This is nonsense.
denul was pushing thisbwifom where there was none, he was spouting off about symps and associated wifom, he has been doing nothing but muddying the water.
vote denul

Sukul Ankhadu, on 25 June 2014 - 01:03 PM, said:

The only person wifoming it was you denul. Not one fuck was given before. He didn't 'dodge' a lynch, more people voted for kaschan. Had we no lynched then possibly there was wifom.

Sukul Ankhadu, on 25 June 2014 - 02:30 PM, said:

No.
he can spit and cry all he wants. If he's town its a dick fucking move on his part. Vote me all you want nimander, I ain't going for your 'deal'.

Sukul never play a game that you don't sign up for ever again. You don't give a shit and you contribute nothing to the game when you don't care.

[Barghast]

Denul, anything else about anyone else?

[Denul]

Hoods Paths contributions to date:

Hood, on 18 June 2014 - 02:58 PM, said:

I see it's been rather stimulating conversation so far.

Denul, the only 'catch' in all your fine work is the possible Barghast/Kaschan signal which is worth keeping an eye on. Pallid, you would have a great point if Denul hadn't ruined it by building his Kaschan 'case'. GL, I'm perfectly happy with a low poster hunt. I think we've been neglecting that particular hobby for far too long. I hope that you understand that I prefer the prey to be the low poster that isn't me.

Hood, on 18 June 2014 - 02:59 PM, said:

Denul, on 18 June 2014 - 02:45 PM, said:

Kaschan, on 18 June 2014 - 02:41 PM, said:

Well yes I am paying attention to the thread. Im bored as hell at work. And lets see, do I want to be lynched? Of course fucking not jackass. So way to be Cpt. Obvious . I could be spamming the thread with a bunch a nonsense pics but I figured I would spare everyone that, even if it amuse me to no end.

Hey someone has to get the ball rolling. A vote on GL or god forbid HP does very little to generate comments and interactions. Right now I think that the odds are evenly split that HP will post before he gets modkilled.

I was typing as you posted that.

Hood, on 18 June 2014 - 04:43 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 18 June 2014 - 03:23 PM, said:

That was so superbly timed by Pallid and Denul that I am in awe.

Kaschan can you tell us what the "Callsign Swamp Thing" was?

Interesting idea.

Denul, on 18 June 2014 - 03:48 PM, said:

Pallid, on 18 June 2014 - 03:28 PM, said:

Worth bearing in mind that this is a Killers vs Town game according to the OP. That means no symps, and it's probably safe to assume two paired killers. So given that, why are people looking for signalling? There are no roles to code and no reason for anyone to need to signal anyone else. Interactions and distancing are the name of the game in a scenario like this.

Where you get no symps because it is a killers vs town game. The bare basic m/p game is a killer with a symp. Paired killers actually increase the TMDI level because you have to put town roles in that balance out killer communication. With just a killer and a symp, town does not need to have any roles. I disagree on your conclusion that there can not be a symp in the game. Saying something like that seems like an attempt to generate WIFOM for no reason.

Denul, are you trying to hint that we have some roles? 'Cause that is definitely not in the OP. Of course, getting us arguing about symps means we're less likely to notice that you're saying that paired killers are unlikely. Which, given the superbly timed posts earlier, makes me suspicious.

Hood, on 18 June 2014 - 04:46 PM, said:

Denul, on 18 June 2014 - 04:39 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 18 June 2014 - 04:33 PM, said:

Denul, on 18 June 2014 - 04:30 PM, said:

So your thinking one killer or paired killers. Paired killer who can talk or only paired killers who know each other. If they know each other but can't talk then they would each have a kill. If they don't know each other then the possibility that the game can end on night one. Which would be fucking funny. If they know each other and can talk then that is a huge scum advantage. Which would have to be balanced out by town having at least a paired guard roles. Since I don't see any of that in the sign up either. Durrr I am going to say that the easiest game would be to have a single killer with a symp. Thus no need for even basic town roles.

There are 12 players - if there are paired killers, then that's 10 town vs. 2 scum. Why would that be unbalanced? That's a 5:1 ratio in town's favour, which is better than town usually gets.

Paired scum would be able to talk to each other. Which gives them an greater advantage to plan and coordinate actions. See the last game. See the game before that and the one before that one. Shit see every game with paired killers played in 2014. Paired killers who can talk have a big step up on town. They can talk about how to deflect and how to distance from each other so that it works perfectly. The fact that you think that paired killers is not unbalanced against roleless town is why town hasn't won a game in eons.

And that's what I get for not reading to the end before posting.

Hood, on 18 June 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

I'm likely to not be around any for the next 5 or 6 hours. There's still at least that much time in the day isn't there?

Hood, on 18 June 2014 - 05:00 PM, said:

Good, then I'll be around at the end of the day.

[Denul]

Hood, on 20 June 2014 - 02:12 PM, said:

First, I realize the day is short and we had a no Lynch yesterday but Nimander putting kaschan at L-1 with two hours to go stinks a bit to me.
Second, I really don't see if there's much of a case on Kaschan. I'm far more inclined to put my vote on GL. But since I just bitched at NG for that same thing I won't put him at L1.
Make no mistake, I will hammer whomever I have to to get the lynch today.

No cases for coming from HP on either Eloth or Barghast.

Hood, on 20 June 2014 - 02:17 PM, said:

I've got the time today so I'm going to a make a case on a couple of people. Eloth for one strikes me as wishy-washy and barghast is pissing me off just because of the pictures but there's more to it than that. But I'm going to hold off until after the end of day because I don't want anyone saying I'm trying to muddy the waters.
Of the two viable candidates, I think Kaschan is going to come back town. GL I am uncertain about but...

Hood, on 20 June 2014 - 02:26 PM, said:

The borders very close to the offensive line and not certain which side of the line it's bordering.

Hood, on 20 June 2014 - 02:28 PM, said:

Hood said:

1403274377[/url]' post='1130508']
The borders very close to the offensive line and not certain which side of the line it's bordering.

^^ refers to the pic in post 264.

Hood, on 20 June 2014 - 02:39 PM, said:

Barghast said:

1403274572[/url]' post='1130511']
Remove vote

for now, I am here to change.

What are your thoughts about the lack of defense from both parties? Surely they should be protesting more than this and offering alternatives?

That's why I'm less inclined to think GL is town. There is actually a case on him which he could be defending against. Kaschan is pretty much right about his. It mostly comes down to "oh you 'predicted' that Pallid would be town and the only way you could know that is if you weren't". There is not a whole lot one can say to that accusation. It's a 'have you stopped beating your wife' accusation.
Gawd, iOS spell correction really does not like comtractions

Hood, on 20 June 2014 - 02:46 PM, said:

Barghast said:

1403274900[/url]' post='1130514']
Out of the two options I find Kaschan to be the more scummier but nothing really sways me to defend GL and look at him innocently. There is possibly one or two players that I can see myself nodding along to, but various actions from others make my vote quite flexible.

I could vote for Ampelas for his reactions around the Sukul incident, but I wasn't getting a good feeling from him early on either.

Nothing has been majorly scummy for me this game so far. Another failed lynch is not going to happen though.

I agree completely with the underlined. Which is why I'm not going to outline my thoughts on others until after we get one. You're close to the top of my suspect list though.

[Denul]

So far to date the only case from HP. Notice all of the removed content. Barest attempt at making a case when in reality it is more of an attempt to paint GL in even worse light then he already was. I had to remove some of GL's quotes below to fit it on to the page.

Hood, on 20 June 2014 - 03:18 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 17 June 2014 - 05:04 PM, said:

<snip>
Having caught some ... movies ... the tentacles are probably out of shot. Why else do you think she's smiliing?

Galayn Lord, on 19 June 2014 - 12:58 PM, said:

Did I miss anything?

Galayn Lord, on 19 June 2014 - 04:16 PM, said:

<snip>

No scum would be so stupid as to say that.

Galayn Lord, on 19 June 2014 - 04:41 PM, said:

<snip>
I could be quite tempted to drop a vote on Amp for that. Scum don't need to care who gets lynched so long as it isn't them

Galayn Lord, on 19 June 2014 - 09:01 PM, said:

There's been nothing since. Does anyone else have any thoughts?

Galayn Lord, on 20 June 2014 - 09:56 AM, said:

<snip>

Just to answer this point quickly whilst at a computer;

This is my phone: Nokia C3. It doesn't do tabs or multiquotes and when replying I need to delete character by character all text and formatting I want to delete. So I don't. However it does auto-align the browser window to text so following quotes is really quite easy. Does your no doubt newer and more fancy phone not do that? I can cope with it from my phone so quit bitching.

Galayn Lord, on 20 June 2014 - 11:29 AM, said:

<snip>

Stuff that.

Vote Kaschan

With the proviso that I'll switch to myself if needed for a lynch. I'll check in again maybe 1hr/45min before timeout.

That's the totality of GL's content (stripped of the embedded quotes). Whimsical, admits he voted for somebody for 'style', seems to discount mechanism discussion but remains open to it, throws out the idea of alternating killers, points out that scum don't care who is lynched, and finally votes for the train that isn't him.

Nothing damning in there but it's much less than what Kaschan has contributed. (Yeah, yeah, I'm throwing rocks at him from my glass windowed house.)

[Denul]

Hood, on 24 June 2014 - 03:26 AM, said:

Shinrei, on 23 June 2014 - 10:51 PM, said:

It is Day 3, 27 hours are left in the Day.

9 players are alive.

Ampelas, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Sukul Ankhadu

1 vote Denul: Barghast
1 vote Barghast: Eloth
2 votes Galayn Lord: Denul, Ampelas

Players not voting: Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Sukul Ankhadu

Over 22 hours left, so plenty of time.

Eloth, I'm fucked if I can see the case against Barghast. It comes down not to deflecting/resisting the GL lynch, but to the way he did it?

Hood, on 24 June 2014 - 10:46 PM, said:

I've had an absolutely wonderful day. Then log in to this shit storm...

Hood, on 24 June 2014 - 10:49 PM, said:

I'll read up while I'm getting some food. But the Lio and GL whiplash vote dance right there looks a lot like desperation to me.

Hood, on 25 June 2014 - 12:40 AM, said:

Hood, on 24 June 2014 - 10:49 PM, said:

I'll read up while I'm getting some food. But the Lio and GL whiplash vote dance right there looks a lot like desperation to me.

Glad I read back. Because I have a serious problem with a GL lynch based on wifom. To believe that GL is scum, I have to believe that Ampelas, Barghast, Nimander, myself, and now Lio are all partners with him or dupes. We've all resisted the lynch at some point.

So I went back to day one. And what I see is Denul pointing a finger at Lio and GL, then getting into a pissing match with him, then ignoring him (and the game), and today yelling his head off that we're all fools for not lynching based on the idea that we'll just be back to him tomorrow. That is admittedly a somewhat true statement. But again, I have to believe that he's managed to put reasonable doubt into a lot of experienced heads. And I have trouble doing that. So I'm going with the person who is stirring the shit.

Vote Denul

Hood, on 25 June 2014 - 12:48 AM, said:

Hood, on 25 June 2014 - 12:40 AM, said:

Hood, on 24 June 2014 - 10:49 PM, said:

I'll read up while I'm getting some food. But the Lio and GL whiplash vote dance right there looks a lot like desperation to me.

Glad I read back. Because I have a serious problem with a GL lynch based on wifom. To believe that GL is scum, I have to believe that Ampelas, Barghast, Nimander, myself, and now Lio are all partners with him or dupes. We've all resisted the lynch at some point.

So I went back to day one. And what I see is Denul pointing a finger at Lio and GL, then getting into a pissing match with him, then ignoring him (and the game), and today yelling his head off that we're all fools for not lynching based on the idea that we'll just be back to him tomorrow. That is admittedly a somewhat true statement. But again, I have to believe that he's managed to put reasonable doubt into a lot of experienced heads. And I have trouble doing that. So I'm going with the person who is stirring the shit.

Vote Denul

And shit. I got lost in the movie I was watching. There's only about 30 minutes left. No fucking way this is going to go anywhere except GL. It's either him or a no lynch. I'll put him back at L1. Somebody else can make the decision.

Remove Vote
Vote GL

The vibe that I get from HP is that he is a barely interested player. However that is now actually what I am seeing when I go over his posts. He is actually on quite a bit always around and making sure to vote to get a lynch. The big thing that jumps out at me is his promises to build cases or to take a look at someone then nothing. Oh sure he had that little bit on GL but it wasn't much of an effort. I am liking HP as a low posting scum just gliding along not getting any pressure and not making any waves.

[Denul]

Barghast, on 25 June 2014 - 03:56 PM, said:

Denul, anything else about anyone else?

Hey mister not doing anything just sitting there with your thumb up your ass. Go and do some fucking work yourself. There is 25 or so hours left in the fucking day are you in a hurry or something. Do you have a fancy dinner thing to go to or something. If you have something better to do and don't want to be bothered to look for scum then vote me and get the game over with.

[Barghast]

Denul, on 25 June 2014 - 04:04 PM, said:

Barghast, on 25 June 2014 - 03:56 PM, said:

Denul, anything else about anyone else?

Hey mister not doing anything just sitting there with your thumb up your ass. Go and do some fucking work yourself. There is 25 or so hours left in the fucking day are you in a hurry or something. Do you have a fancy dinner thing to go to or something. If you have something better to do and don't want to be bothered to look for scum then vote me and get the game over with.

No I am forming an opinion. I hear you, I am going to do my work over night and through out the morning.

I encourage more from you, because you make sense.

[Sukul Ankhadu]

And why is barghast suddenly sucking everyone's dick?

[Ampelas]

Liosan was suddenly buddy buddy with GL
Denul suddenly sees Barghast as "too confused" to be scum
Barghast likes what Denul says.

The name of the game mah deah Sukul, is self preservashun.

[Denul]

Sukul Ankhadu, on 25 June 2014 - 04:45 PM, said:

And why is barghast suddenly sucking everyone's dick?

Why can you not post more then 8 words?

Barghast probably likes the taste of cock and since you poke at a keyboard with your elbows it takes you a while to type. These are questions that we ponder as we walk the road of life.

[Barghast]

Well I was baiting Denul to see who he tries to turn me towards.

[Barghast]

My vote so far is going towards Amp or Denul.