[Vengeance]

Tattersail_, on 20 November 2015 - 07:37 AM, said:

This war the bottom 2 guys attacked the top 4 without laying down any troops. Shortly after I receive my first 3 star defeat as a th10. Coincidence?

Nope. If someone drops troops then Xmod can pull out where the teslas and traps/bombs are located. Then people can run scenario after scenario against your exact base until they figure out how to 3 star it. We have seen that quite a few times. There are threads about it on Reddit. I think that is one of the reasons you see the warring community splitting into fair play versus Xmod. Onehive,North Remembers, a lot of the reddit clans and a bunch of others are fair play. So now you have One hive and the other fair play clans scheduling wars against each other.

I may read and watch a lot of coc vids. Not that I don't still suck at Goho but at least I understand why I suck every time.

[twelve]

What's the point of even playing if all you are going to do is cheat? The game would be boring then.

[Vengeance]

twelve, on 20 November 2015 - 04:20 PM, said:

What's the point of even playing if all you are going to do is cheat? The game would be boring then.

I don't know. I do know that it is insanely frusterating to do 5 goho attacks in raiding where I 3 star maxed th9s to only 1 star in war.

[twelve]

Vengeance, on 20 November 2015 - 05:43 PM, said:

twelve, on 20 November 2015 - 04:20 PM, said:

What's the point of even playing if all you are going to do is cheat? The game would be boring then.

I don't know. I do know that it is insanely frusterating to do 5 goho attacks in raiding where I 3 star maxed th9s to only 1 star in war.

Know the feeling. Last war I did a 95% 1 star using GoHo against a TH9 that, though not maxed out still was a long way to being maxed. I brought 2 lvl 1 witches with my kill squad. My golems, wizards and both heroes made it to the center and my hogs killed all the defenses. His BK ended up taking out my archer queen before it could take out his TH. My last 4 hogs finally took out the BK but I did lose one in the process. Both of my witches lived to the end and all the skeletons were pivotal on taking out all the support buildings as all my wizards died early in the raid to the middle. Not sure if the witches could have broken through the walls to reach the TH to finish off the last little bit of life it had left but they did spend 1 minute 39 seconds on a lvl 4 DE storage before time finally ran out and it still had a good 1/8 of it's HP left. I did the math. 2 lvl 1 witches should have taken no more than a minute to destroy the storage with no other support. I've always felt troops behave differently during wars than they do during raids and this was the first concrete evidence I've had where this is the case. I've seen troops that should have gone one way went another frequently. I've seen troops in one attack wipe out villages with ease only to struggle to 1 star similar bases on other attempts. It's maddeningly frustrating.

[Vengeance]

twelve, on 20 November 2015 - 11:06 PM, said:

Vengeance, on 20 November 2015 - 05:43 PM, said:

twelve, on 20 November 2015 - 04:20 PM, said:

What's the point of even playing if all you are going to do is cheat? The game would be boring then.

I don't know. I do know that it is insanely frusterating to do 5 goho attacks in raiding where I 3 star maxed th9s to only 1 star in war.

Know the feeling. Last war I did a 95% 1 star using GoHo against a TH9 that, though not maxed out still was a long way to being maxed. I brought 2 lvl 1 witches with my kill squad. My golems, wizards and both heroes made it to the center and my hogs killed all the defenses. His BK ended up taking out my archer queen before it could take out his TH. My last 4 hogs finally took out the BK but I did lose one in the process. Both of my witches lived to the end and all the skeletons were pivotal on taking out all the support buildings as all my wizards died early in the raid to the middle. Not sure if the witches could have broken through the walls to reach the TH to finish off the last little bit of life it had left but they did spend 1 minute 39 seconds on a lvl 4 DE storage before time finally ran out and it still had a good 1/8 of it's HP left. I did the math. 2 lvl 1 witches should have taken no more than a minute to destroy the storage with no other support. I've always felt troops behave differently during wars than they do during raids and this was the first concrete evidence I've had where this is the case. I've seen troops that should have gone one way went another frequently. I've seen troops in one attack wipe out villages with ease only to struggle to 1 star similar bases on other attempts. It's maddeningly frustrating.

Yeah I have now only started to use Goho attacks for all of my raid attacks and I just keep hitting next until I get a maxed TH9. I can 3 star 60% of the time and 2 star the rest. Now that both of my heroes are 15 I am going to take a little bit and get a better feel for GOHOing. How different combo's of troops work when to stutter in hog to help support my main hog attack troops. Heal placement and what not.

[Tiste Simeon]

Thoughts on the new shield updates that are coming? Not a fan. Going to completely change raiding. I think it's a cynical attempt to get more people to buy gems for shields...

[twelve]

what news? I didn't see any annoucement in the game.

[Vengeance]

Tiste Simeon, on 23 November 2015 - 08:34 PM, said:

Thoughts on the new shield updates that are coming? Not a fan. Going to completely change raiding. I think it's a cynical attempt to get more people to buy gems for shields...

It is going to make testing out war attacking strategies much easier. No more snipping. So that will suck. Because I can go weeks with out getting hit hard. But now we will start to get better ideas on how war bases will stack up before an actual war.


Of course I already ignore and don't care if I have a shield or not before I attack. Mainly because I always have a shield thanks to TH snippers. An irritating thing is that you can't just take a War base and dump it in. Because you will most likely have your storage's in good war positions but poor raiding positions so that will require some rethinking.

[Vengeance]

twelve, on 23 November 2015 - 08:37 PM, said:

what news? I didn't see any annoucement in the game.

sigh... Read the whole thing


LInky to Supercell Dev

[Tiste Simeon]

Yeah sorry was busy and couldn't find the link on my mobile.

I like some of it. I dislike he fact that they are getting rid of th sniping as it is how I play. I like the different levels of shield and I like being able to take time of shield for attacking which will make revenge attacks fun without losing shield. But I don't know why taking away the sniping is useful. One of the great things about this game is that there us a style of play for everyone. SC are trying to force people to play in a certain way and not everyone likes it.

[Dolmen 2.0]

Vengeance, on 23 November 2015 - 09:02 PM, said:

Tiste Simeon, on 23 November 2015 - 08:34 PM, said:

Thoughts on the new shield updates that are coming? Not a fan. Going to completely change raiding. I think it's a cynical attempt to get more people to buy gems for shields...

It is going to make testing out war attacking strategies much easier. No more snipping. So that will suck. Because I can go weeks with out getting hit hard. But now we will start to get better ideas on how war bases will stack up before an actual war.


Of course I already ignore and don't care if I have a shield or not before I attack. Mainly because I always have a shield thanks to TH snippers. An irritating thing is that you can't just take a War base and dump it in. Because you will most likely have your storage's in good war positions but poor raiding positions so that will require some rethinking.

my feelings exactly.

War bases and raid bases will have less to choose between them.

It becomes a game of damage mitigation. Not opposed to it though. It forces us to use our troops in new and creative ways.

This post has been edited by Dolmen 2.0: 28 November 2015 - 01:48 PM

[Fiddlerscrosbow]

Hey guys n gals just found this chat for clash
I'm a th9 with a mini 6 acct also
Just started bridgburners clan up for some fun n chill out
Wars if anyone's interested #9gpjjq88 check us out

[twelve]

Been struggling with finding a new layout that at least protects my DE while minimally protecting my TH as I wanted to be sure that if they do get it they would do a minimum of 30% damage so I get my shield. I think I finally found such a layout and that's when I found out that now the TH will act as a Gold, Elixir and mini DE storage all wrapped up in one. Frack!!!!! Now Goblins will target THs as a resource storage building. When does the new update roll out? I feel like I need to go back to the drawing board.

[Tiste Simeon]

Twelve, check out this Reddit thread and the linked Imgur album for TH9 hybrid base designs. In the comments you will see that there are other TH levels represented and discussion on merits, defence logs etc.

[Tiste Simeon]

And I think the update is tomorrow.

[Fiddlerscrosbow]

I heard the update was today also hope it isn't as bad as people are making out it will be

[Tattersail_]

Okay so my base has been pretty good defending my resources. I also get a shield most times.

So base layout;

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Last 6 defense records;

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[Tattersail_]

The attack by balls deep which took 2800 de was with a lvl35 king. All maxed troops. I'd have done better with max defenses. Yet look at what was on offer. He got a measly portion of the loot to say the least.

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Also I see a lot of spells being used on raids. What's up with that? 71k dark is all from barbs and archers. I've just maxed my goblins so they've been included instead of barbs at the moment.

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[Tattersail_]

War Base is the base that I struggle with. Golems protect your main army but not if they walk away from center whilst army goes central. I was 2 starred once in the last 12 wars and he sent a golem in from south and east. Then guided them central so I changed the corner walls to prevent that from happening. Now at most I'm 1 starred but usually defend.

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[Fiddlerscrosbow]

Update is on the go at the moment