[Aptorian]

Anyone else heard of this?

http://www.amatterof.../meet-the-cast/



I kind of want to watch this, just to see how the director spins the story. Harry Anderson (playing the biology professor) is as far as I remember not some kind of die hard Christian, so I wonder if it will have a more nuanced look at the debate, even though it is being made from the point of view of Creationists.

[worry]

A movie just came out like this except it was based on the chain emails (about abortion or something?) that end with "and that person was...Albert Einstein!" and Kevin Sorbo as the strawman liberal professor. I dunno if you get these over there but it's a whole industry here, with Left Behind movies and the Kirck Cameron stuff and -- incidentally I suppose -- The Passion of the Christ (which was a huge hit amongst far right wing megachurch evangelicals despite Mel Gibson being a weirdo-style fundamentalist Catholic). You can expect, as I said, a token strawman liberal being taken down by nonsense arguments equivalent to that Kirk Cameron banana video. By the way, this movie is coming from the same people who run the Creation Museum of Ken Ham (Bill Nye debate guy).

I have no idea why Harry Anderson is in this except I know he was kinda financially struggling after Hurricane Katrina and had to leave New Orleans.

[Aptorian]

I couldn't really imagine a market for that kind of stuff here in Denmark, it certainly wouldn't be aired on TV. Our society is far too secular now a days.

But it is interesting. I love how the trailer spins the story and the biologist becomes the bad guy and we see the concerned father cramming to prepare to defend his faith.

[Gnaw]

worry, on 03 May 2014 - 06:37 AM, said:

A movie just came out like this except it was based on the chain emails (about abortion or something?) that end with "and that person was...Albert Einstein!" and Kevin Sorbo as the strawman liberal professor. I dunno if you get these over there but it's a whole industry here, with Left Behind movies and the Kirck Cameron stuff and -- incidentally I suppose -- The Passion of the Christ (which was a huge hit amongst far right wing megachurch evangelicals despite Mel Gibson being a weirdo-style fundamentalist Catholic). You can expect, as I said, a token strawman liberal being taken down by nonsense arguments equivalent to that Kirk Cameron banana video. By the way, this movie is coming from the same people who run the Creation Museum of Ken Ham (Bill Nye debate guy).

I have no idea why Harry Anderson is in this except I know he was kinda financially struggling after Hurricane Katrina and had to leave New Orleans.

I saw an interview with him. Bill Maher or John Stewart. The topic was Katrina. When he talked about moving to Asheville, NC he started talking about "the gays" and the host cut him off a bit. Asheville is quite liberal for western NC and the Appalachians, so I could see the man in that interview sliding into this movie fairly easily.

[Illuyankas]

Evolution is real, deal with it.

[QuickTidal]

This kind of movie would just serve to piss me off and rile me up.

Why is it that creationsist feel the need to almost villify science and evoluton?

[Aptorian]

Because scientists are corrupting the purity and innocense of Christian children by telling them some fairytale about monkeys that crawled out of the sea.

[QuickTidal]

Apt Hoc, on 03 May 2014 - 11:26 AM, said:

Because scientists are corrupting the purity and innocense of Christian children by telling them some fairytale about monkeys that crawled out of the sea.

?

[Solidsnape]

Wow.
Massive wow.

[Gnaw]

QuickTidal, on 03 May 2014 - 10:50 AM, said:

This kind of movie would just serve to piss me off and rile me up.

Why is it that creationsist feel the need to almost villify science and evoluton?

Literalism. Creationism =/= "do not believe evolution". It's the <insert holy book name here> literalists that have problems with science. Once you take as your premise that the Word of <Deity> is The Truth^TM, then you have to discount anything that contradicts that literal Truth. *shrug*

The more evidence that piles up against your Truth, the stronger the cognitive dissonance becomes. In turn, your defense of The Truth^TM has to ratchet up.

[Spoilsport Stonny]

My problem with the whole thing doesn't really have much to do with belief systems as it does misallocated effort and energy. If just one percent of everyone who would argue creationism vs. everything else (or whatever) would spend that energy feeding a starving child or reading to an old person or cleaning up a stretch of polluted beach or highway, it could go a long way towards living in a better world. THIS is why I choose to dumb myself down with drugs, so I don't have to think about it.

[Dolmen 2.0]

I'm not big on this debate.

Believing one way or the other doesn't serve me much purpose as an individual. If you are a biologist or priest maybe its a hot topic but despite my origins and faith I find believing in a higher power has nothing to do with where mankind came from, we can never know for certain regardless of what anyone might surmise from their proffession. Belief and science are all about where we hope mankind is headed. Both science and Religion want that to be a positive place where people care about each other and look out for each other in common interest.

These arguments are nothing but an ugly play for public opinion. undermining one perspective lands power in the hands of the other perspective. I think its pretty low to debate science versus faith because ultimately they are both in existance to benefit human behaviour and understanding. The faster we stop looking at these things as opposing forces the faster real progress in both fields becomes possible.

[Gnaw]

Hmmm. A mod should probably move this one to the discussion forum. It's already off-topic. And if I reply to Dolmen it will go much further OT.

[worry]

Here's an on-topic post. This movie sucks. It's not a debate. The Big Bang happened. God is a pizza, and therefore could only exist post-big bang. I intend to prove this in my own film. Here's the trailer:

[LinearPhilosopher]

This takes cheap entertainment to a whole new low.

[Coco with marshmallows]

BalrogLord, on 04 May 2014 - 10:15 PM, said:

This takes cheap entertainment to a whole new low.

You've never had Geordie Shore inflicted on your senses have you?

[Cause]

Its incredible. That trailer almost makes the movie seem exciting!

[Morgoth]

Dolmen Weeks, on 04 May 2014 - 05:40 PM, said:

I'm not big on this debate.

Believing one way or the other doesn't serve me much purpose as an individual. If you are a biologist or priest maybe its a hot topic but despite my origins and faith I find believing in a higher power has nothing to do with where mankind came from, we can never know for certain regardless of what anyone might surmise from their proffession. Belief and science are all about where we hope mankind is headed. Both science and Religion want that to be a positive place where people care about each other and look out for each other in common interest.

These arguments are nothing but an ugly play for public opinion. undermining one perspective lands power in the hands of the other perspective. I think its pretty low to debate science versus faith because ultimately they are both in existance to benefit human behaviour and understanding. The faster we stop looking at these things as opposing forces the faster real progress in both fields becomes possible.

For a person like me living in Norway, I would tom some extent agree with your assertion. However, if you come from a country like for instance the US, where conflicts like the above are pushed into schools and politics, well then it is much more than just an ugly play for public opinion.