[Anthras]

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 11:31 PM, said:

I know, and I'm sorry to 180 on you guys, but I do think that Korvalain is telling the truth. I mean, if you lynch Korv and find out he's inno, you can still lynch Kara tomorrow, but I think Kara is our best bet today.

I will not be voting for Anthras tomorrow. If we lynch him during the Day, and he ends up being inno, then scum can target Ryll and I during Night, so I'd just as soon lynch him if we're still playing when the groups remerge.

Your bouncing around like a super bouncy ball. Stop slow down. Why the sudden change of heart?

[Anthras]

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 11:37 PM, said:

Korbas, on 12 May 2014 - 11:36 PM, said:

How does that change your calculus Okaros?

It probably means that Pran picked it up today. You being the guard or not has nothing to do with why I believe Korvalain.

Care to enlighten us on why you believe Korv all of sudden.

[Anthras]

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 11:55 PM, said:

Korbas, on 12 May 2014 - 11:54 PM, said:

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 11:37 PM, said:

Korbas, on 12 May 2014 - 11:36 PM, said:

How does that change your calculus Okaros?

It probably means that Pran picked it up today. You being the guard or not has nothing to do with why I believe Korvalain.

The only registered contracts at the moment are the two guards, chronokinesis, and force-field.

I don't think anyone should be voted off until registration is closed for the day.

Registration has been closed for a couple of hours if I'm not mistaken. At least one.

Good then everything should be settled shortly at least one can hope.

[Anthras]

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 11:56 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 12 May 2014 - 09:20 PM, said:

It is Day 4. 20 hours remaining. 60 minutes of registration remaining.



8 players are alive:
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Anthras, Okaros, Ryllandaras

2 votes to lynch. 2 votes to go to night.

No one has voted.
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Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Korbas, Korvalain, Pran Chole

3 votes to lynch. 3 votes to go to night.

1 vote for Korvalain (Hentos Ilm)
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There was 60 minutes remaining at this point, and it's now nearly 1 hour 40 minutes later.

Probably just waiting on Drek to get online and take care of the registration.

[Okaros]

Heh, he's gonna feel really sheepish when he realizes he's dead.

[Anthras]

Ryllandaras, on 13 May 2014 - 01:27 AM, said:

It's pretty strange - no one picked up Hallucination or Anti-Tank...but someone picked up Shapeshifting.

Two possibilities:

1) A townie picked up Shapeshifting to keep scum from disguising themselves from finds.

2) Scum (the SK?) picked it up to disguise themselves from finds.

If it's the latter we could always just not vote and let the Shapeshifter be lynched by our uncast votes (if they're in my group, i.e. Okaros, that's going to happen anyway).

Strange that you did not mention that the Special contract was picked up.

[Anthras]

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This post has been edited by Anthras: 13 May 2014 - 01:34 PM

[Anthras]

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This post has been edited by Anthras: 13 May 2014 - 01:34 PM

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. 3 hours and 45 minutes remaining.



8 players are alive:
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Anthras, Okaros, Ryllandaras

2 votes to lynch. 2 votes to go to night.

1 vote for Anthras (Okaros, Ryllandaras)

These votes are now locked and Anthras may not post. The CF will be posted when the other group is also finished.
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Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Korbas, Korvalain, Pran Chole

3 votes to lynch. 3 votes to go to night.

2 votes for Korvalain (Karatallid, Korvalain)
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[Path-Shaper]

Hentos Ilm, on 13 May 2014 - 06:19 AM, said:

Also guys, I don't think we need to be worried about towm picking up the SK contract. D'rek posted the wall of text and it does contain Clause B2. A townie becoming SK is I guess a direct violation of it, whereas a last scum changing his alignment would be less so.

An innocent taking SCM is not a violation B2.

[Path-Shaper]

Pran Chole, on 13 May 2014 - 08:28 AM, said:

Hentos Ilm, on 13 May 2014 - 07:37 AM, said:

What interests me, is Shapeshifting.
I guess whomever picks it up is either town, willing to prove it over their corpse, or it's scum who is afraid of finds on them.

It doesn't make sense for anyone in group 1 to be holding this contract, as they won't vote and it would mean a townie blowing themselves up.
Right now, I think the scum taking it makes the most sense, capitalizing on group 2 wanting to lynch.

In the second case, not voting might be best, either way, we get a lynch.

Remove vote.

I am not against this play at all. I think scum took the SK, and shapeshifter to hide it.

If I may split hairs though, if scum took the SK contract, they become "an independent player" as D'rek said. Our VC states that town must eliminate scum to win. So, if a final scum has ceased to be scum, and are now "independent", we've won, right.

Yeah, no. The basic SK definition is that town need to lynch them as well to win.

[Path-Shaper]

Karatallid, on 13 May 2014 - 09:02 AM, said:

Hentos Ilm, on 13 May 2014 - 05:52 AM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 13 May 2014 - 05:05 AM, said:

This is a convoluted mess, which usually means someone is lying. EXCEPT for the fact that no one has jumped out to counter claim.

Korvalain says that THEY held the anti-tank vig on day 3, and they targetted Hentos. But then someone froze them. That someone, seemingly, being Okaros. Let's put aside the fact, for now, that targetting Hentos for any reason was idiotic.

Pran Chole says he used ST switch themselves and Tholen.

So Tholen dies from his own kill.

Karatallid says he guarded Venesara night 2 and Anthras night 3. Is this possible? What about night 1?

Back to Korvalain - doesn't want to say what contract they held on day 1. Why?

Their night 1 is their current contract?

Can you not reveal that you held a contract on Night 1 if you have relinquished it in between and make no claim as to it being your current contract? Just curious. Technically he could still talk about his night one contract regardless of what his current contract is, I think. Not sure, though.

No, you can't. Even if you had a particular contract only on day 1 and day 7, you would not be allowed on day 7 to talk about having it on day 1.

[Hentos Ilm]

I hope Korbas and PC can keep their cool and wait for Shapeshifter.

[Hentos Ilm]

Path-Shaper, on 13 May 2014 - 01:35 PM, said:

Hentos Ilm, on 13 May 2014 - 06:19 AM, said:

Also guys, I don't think we need to be worried about towm picking up the SK contract. D'rek posted the wall of text and it does contain Clause B2. A townie becoming SK is I guess a direct violation of it, whereas a last scum changing his alignment would be less so.

An innocent taking SCM is not a violation B2.

Awww shucks.

[Pran Chole]

Path-Shaper, on 13 May 2014 - 01:36 PM, said:

Pran Chole, on 13 May 2014 - 08:28 AM, said:

Hentos Ilm, on 13 May 2014 - 07:37 AM, said:

What interests me, is Shapeshifting.
I guess whomever picks it up is either town, willing to prove it over their corpse, or it's scum who is afraid of finds on them.

It doesn't make sense for anyone in group 1 to be holding this contract, as they won't vote and it would mean a townie blowing themselves up.
Right now, I think the scum taking it makes the most sense, capitalizing on group 2 wanting to lynch.

In the second case, not voting might be best, either way, we get a lynch.

Remove vote.

I am not against this play at all. I think scum took the SK, and shapeshifter to hide it.

If I may split hairs though, if scum took the SK contract, they become "an independent player" as D'rek said. Our VC states that town must eliminate scum to win. So, if a final scum has ceased to be scum, and are now "independent", we've won, right.

Yeah, no. The basic SK definition is that town need to lynch them as well to win.

It was worth a shot...

[Pran Chole]

Hentos Ilm, on 13 May 2014 - 01:38 PM, said:

I hope Korbas and PC can keep their cool and wait for Shapeshifter.

I'm down with that.

[Korvalain]

Hah, I thought I was hammering myself. Shucks.

[Okaros]

Korvalain, on 13 May 2014 - 02:07 PM, said:

Hah, I thought I was hammering myself. Shucks.

You should remove and let Day time out so that whoever picked up Shapeshifter is lynched.

[Korvalain]

Okaros, on 13 May 2014 - 02:15 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 13 May 2014 - 02:07 PM, said:

Hah, I thought I was hammering myself. Shucks.

You should remove and let Day time out so that whoever picked up Shapeshifter is lynched.

I'll be back before timeout, lots of time yet

[Okaros]

Korvalain, on 13 May 2014 - 02:26 PM, said:

Okaros, on 13 May 2014 - 02:15 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 13 May 2014 - 02:07 PM, said:

Hah, I thought I was hammering myself. Shucks.

You should remove and let Day time out so that whoever picked up Shapeshifter is lynched.

I'll be back before timeout, lots of time yet

Sure, whatever, but it just makes you look suspicious, like you're trying to protect the SK.