[Korvalain]

Karatallid, on 13 May 2014 - 09:00 AM, said:

Korvalain, on 13 May 2014 - 07:24 AM, said:

You know, maybe it is worth Chrono-ing Tholen - hear me out - he's known scum so we can lynch at will and has a NK that if he doesn't use as we direct we lynch him. Two NKs have been taken, one for tonight one for tomorrow night. Odds on them both being taken by the SCM?

You're fucking kidding me, right? Revive scum?

Vote Korvalain

You know what? Fuck you too.

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[Karatallid]

Korvalain, on 13 May 2014 - 10:20 AM, said:

Karatallid, on 13 May 2014 - 09:00 AM, said:

Korvalain, on 13 May 2014 - 07:24 AM, said:

You know, maybe it is worth Chrono-ing Tholen - hear me out - he's known scum so we can lynch at will and has a NK that if he doesn't use as we direct we lynch him. Two NKs have been taken, one for tonight one for tomorrow night. Odds on them both being taken by the SCM?

You're fucking kidding me, right? Revive scum?

Vote Korvalain

You know what? Fuck you too.

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Oh, that's mature. And sensible. And not at all playing counter-productive to your own team if you're Town.

[Korvalain]

Karatallid, on 13 May 2014 - 11:20 AM, said:

Korvalain, on 13 May 2014 - 10:20 AM, said:

Karatallid, on 13 May 2014 - 09:00 AM, said:

Korvalain, on 13 May 2014 - 07:24 AM, said:

You know, maybe it is worth Chrono-ing Tholen - hear me out - he's known scum so we can lynch at will and has a NK that if he doesn't use as we direct we lynch him. Two NKs have been taken, one for tonight one for tomorrow night. Odds on them both being taken by the SCM?

You're fucking kidding me, right? Revive scum?

Vote Korvalain

You know what? Fuck you too.

Remove Vote

Vote Korvalain

Oh, that's mature. And sensible. And not at all playing counter-productive to your own team if you're Town.

You've got a SK to deal with now Kara, I suggest you get on with it.

[Karatallid]

Korvalain, on 13 May 2014 - 11:21 AM, said:

Karatallid, on 13 May 2014 - 11:20 AM, said:

Korvalain, on 13 May 2014 - 10:20 AM, said:

Karatallid, on 13 May 2014 - 09:00 AM, said:

Korvalain, on 13 May 2014 - 07:24 AM, said:

You know, maybe it is worth Chrono-ing Tholen - hear me out - he's known scum so we can lynch at will and has a NK that if he doesn't use as we direct we lynch him. Two NKs have been taken, one for tonight one for tomorrow night. Odds on them both being taken by the SCM?

You're fucking kidding me, right? Revive scum?

Vote Korvalain

You know what? Fuck you too.

Remove Vote

Vote Korvalain

Oh, that's mature. And sensible. And not at all playing counter-productive to your own team if you're Town.

You've got a SK to deal with now Kara, I suggest you get on with it.

And would you care to explain how we're supposed to find an SK on the day they picked up the fucking contract?!

It's not something we could reasonably have figured out as it could literally have been ANYONE - including our "CI"s. So yeah, that's not something that was realistically likely to distract from scum-hunting today.

[Hentos Ilm]

Karatallid, on 13 May 2014 - 11:27 AM, said:

Korvalain, on 13 May 2014 - 11:21 AM, said:

Karatallid, on 13 May 2014 - 11:20 AM, said:

Korvalain, on 13 May 2014 - 10:20 AM, said:

Karatallid, on 13 May 2014 - 09:00 AM, said:

Korvalain, on 13 May 2014 - 07:24 AM, said:

You know, maybe it is worth Chrono-ing Tholen - hear me out - he's known scum so we can lynch at will and has a NK that if he doesn't use as we direct we lynch him. Two NKs have been taken, one for tonight one for tomorrow night. Odds on them both being taken by the SCM?

You're fucking kidding me, right? Revive scum?

Vote Korvalain

You know what? Fuck you too.

Remove Vote

Vote Korvalain

Oh, that's mature. And sensible. And not at all playing counter-productive to your own team if you're Town.

You've got a SK to deal with now Kara, I suggest you get on with it.

And would you care to explain how we're supposed to find an SK on the day they picked up the fucking contract?!

It's not something we could reasonably have figured out as it could literally have been ANYONE - including our "CI"s. So yeah, that's not something that was realistically likely to distract from scum-hunting today.

Not sure what Korv is trying to do here. Sounds like he either recognized he fucked up irrevocably (either picking up Shapeshifter, and/or becoming SK with no way to Consume - Cryokinesis does not prevent him from dropping contracts he held and picking up others) or he just got really frustrated with our replies to his plan to bring back Tholen.
It's pretty scummy, although I guess the theory behind it is to get scum on thread to out other scum is equal to playing the information game by other means (I'd call it playing with fire and petrol and a stick of dynamite).

At the same time, if he is not the SK, I can get his frustration with our opinions about him.
I still think waiting for the Shapeshifter going off is the smart plan, though.

[Ryllandaras]

Yeah, so I can't see how Chrono-ing Tholen would be a good idea, as much as I would like to do it just to lynch him.

[Anthras]

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 08:24 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:21 PM, said:

No idea at all. There's still time for the Cryo player to drop and pick up again if they want to. As I say my target of choice was Hentos.

Anything to say to this Anthras, Pran?

If you're frozen, the player with Cryo cannot drop the contract. The holder of the Cryo contract cannot relinquish it as long as someone is frozen.

Which a cursory check of the front page would tell him. Korv you are spinning your lies so fast you are starting not to be able to see straight.

[Anthras]

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 08:29 PM, said:

Well, there's also the claim by Pran that he ST'd Tholen and himself during Night 3 that needs to be taken into account.

So it's assumed that Pran was targetted by the Kill ability, but Tholen died because of the ST. It's also because of this that it is assumed that Pran was meant to be in our group, but ended up in your group, and ours is only 3 people big.

You keep assuming that either Tholen or Pran are suppose to be in our group. I don't see where you could possibly get that idea. I think that you need to read the split contract again.

[Anthras]

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 08:31 PM, said:

Though, of course, that doesn't work if you're the one who had the Vig, and it didn't go through yesterday as you claim. It would mean that the holder of RIO targeted Tholen on Night 2.

Who voted for Tholen during Day 3?

Well I was the holder and I didn't target tholen as such Korv is lying. He knows that the holder of the freeze contract isn't going to directly contradict him on thread as that would be a modkill so he is just trying to stay alive for as long as possible.

[Anthras]

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 08:40 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:37 PM, said:

I don't see anyone so far

Korvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:38 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:37 PM, said:

I don't see anyone so far

Anyone know for sure what ST was used for N2?

Yeah, I'm digging, and so far it's not looking all that great for you.

Nor should it since just in the last couple of pages he hasn't been able to keep his lies straight.

[Anthras]

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 08:47 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:42 PM, said:

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 08:40 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:37 PM, said:

I don't see anyone so far

Korvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:38 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:37 PM, said:

I don't see anyone so far

Anyone know for sure what ST was used for N2?

Yeah, I'm digging, and so far it's not looking all that great for you.

I'll wait on D'reks modkill for the offender if you don't mind

Given D'rek has been around a couple or few times since the beginning of Day 4, I'm assuming that there was no offense.

I've dug all through Day 3, and have not found a single vote on Tholen, which means RIO could not have been used against him on Night 2.

However, it's possible that the holder of RIO targetted someone else during Night 2, and that it was ST'd to Tholen. I'm going to see if I can find some claims of use of ST during Night 2.

The only way that scenario works is if you believe that Korv is frozen. Which I do not.

[Anthras]

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 08:54 PM, said:

Okaros, on 08 May 2014 - 07:00 PM, said:

I am stumped - it doesn't say anything in the Chronokinesis contract about switching someone's body with the dead person's. I thought maybe there was something to do with the Spatial Teleportation contract, but that's been open all day during Day 2, so that doesn't make sense.

Hmmmmm - seems like it wasn't registered during Night 2, so whoever held RIO would have had to vote Tholen during Day 3 if they used it on him during Night 2.

Korvalain, I think you just stuck your foot into your mouth. I don't see how town can overlook voting you out right now. If I were in your group, my vote would definitely be on you.

Finally Korv being full of shit is being seen. Sorry I just got done watching the final episode of the clone wars.

[Ryllandaras]

Okaros, on 13 May 2014 - 04:09 AM, said:

Man.... This game just got extremely complicated.

I did not pick up the SK contract. If you're paying attention you should know why.

I am going to bed, not certain I will be around before Day times out so I will

vote Anthras

And let Ryll decide if he wants to lynch him.

I think its likely, BTW, that whoever picked up the SK contract has Rupture and the Find-Proof mechanic.

I'd also like to make a note that in one of my first games ever, suspecting a Find Proof mechanic is something that got me lynched because everyone thought it was a silly idea. Not so silly now is it?

Alright, I have my reservations, but I think you've steered us well so far. Let's see where your suspicions take you. I have a theory - but I'm not willing to share it on thread for the moment.


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[Anthras]

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 08:55 PM, said:

Hentos Ilm, on 12 May 2014 - 08:48 PM, said:

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 08:12 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:08 PM, said:

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 07:54 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 07:51 PM, said:

Oh and what can I do to clear myself up?

The freezer can't confirm, but I guess he can say what he did if he dropped AT.

Well, have you had any contracts which you've Relinquished and can tell us about? Has anything happened to you that you'd like to share? You've been playing the helpful townie, but you haven't really told us anything about yourself the entire game.

I picked up the Anti-Tank yesterday. Please bear with me as my logic at the time was a little convoluted:

Anti-Tank became available, I picked it up. Still not being entirely sure on Hentos at start of Day I submitted prov. to kill him. Recap of thread at the time persuaded me he was probably town and needed to stay alive (to resurrect NK'd town if nothing else till he brought back scum) so I figured that ST was extremely unlikely to be in scum hands after Ryllandaras' CF and that one of the alts targeted by it was almost certainly going to be Hentos in order to redirect NKs away from him. I left the provisional on Hentos, figuring out that whoever had ST is likely more switched on this game than I am and would pick what they considered to be a scummy alt as the other half of the swap, by leaving it on Hentos I would be letting another players judgement make the call - even at the risk of it being me that I NK'd.

I logged in, saw Tholen was dead and thought it paid off very well - till I realised I was frozen therefore couldn't have pulled off the NK. Cue banging head against wall. Now Pran claims use of ST, after I thought calling to be possessed. He claims he swapped himself and Tholen but I know for a fact I never targeted Pran with the Vig, so how did Tholen die?

My freezer can verify I was their target and can confirm I am essentially a RI for the next 3 days.

I`m pretty sure you just got yourself modkilled - you're not allowed to reveal what contract you currently hold. That's how Venesara got modkilled.

I doubt he's not allowed to say what effect was on him, but if the freezer didn't drop the contract, then he can't reveal.

I thought he was implying that he still held the Vig contract.

Wait I thought that he said that he dropped it.

[Anthras]

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 09:25 PM, said:

I have gone through Day 3 twice now and not found a single vote on Tholen

Yeah I am pretty sure that no one voted for Tholen yesterday.

[Anthras]

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 09:25 PM, said:

PS is around - any clarifications for us Drek?

What kind of clarification are you asking for here? If it is specific question PM her.

[Anthras]

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 09:27 PM, said:

Korbas, on 12 May 2014 - 09:25 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 09:21 PM, said:

Korbas, on 12 May 2014 - 09:08 PM, said:

Heh. I'm taking a break from something else. But, yeah, I think Korv fucked up.

Korv, what contract did you take on Day 1?

I imagine Day 3 is being gone through with a fine toothed comb right now so STFU.

And like hell am I going to answer that when telling the truth gets me damned because someone else can't follow the rules.

Not telling is going to get you lynched. *shrug*


I'm not certain about Day 3. Theoretically Tholen could have killed himself given ST was used as Pran says.

Ah, there's a possibility. If Tholen targeted Pran, and Pran ST'd them, maybe Tholen DID kill himself. I hadn't figured that possibility.

That was my thought 2 pages ago. Mainly because it was such a funny one. Vigging yourself. Still makes me laugh.

[Ryllandaras]

Oh sugar...Anthras, I think you can stop. Sorry, man, if you're not scum (although it is a little funny).

[Anthras]

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 09:31 PM, said:

Gods this game has my head spinning.

Round round baby like a top. Lets spin you round round. Drek has a good one going that is for sure.

[Anthras]

Ryllandaras, on 12 May 2014 - 10:23 PM, said:

Sorry for my absence, I was just taken around the, uh, most important sites of Chicago by Anthras.

I will give you the most important sites. You saw the river didn't you and the opera house...shishh