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Mafia 112: Brighter than Day

#1061 User is offline   Okaros 

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 08:29 PM

View PostKorvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:25 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 12 May 2014 - 08:23 PM, said:

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View PostOkaros, on 12 May 2014 - 08:18 PM, said:

Anthras claims he had Rupture for the entire game, but that he did not use it, so one of you must be lying.


Actually, RIO was available yesterday so that's bullshit for a start



He said he dropped it yesterday in order to pick up another contract.


Did he target Tholen with it N2 then as that is the only way I can see for Tholen to die with the Freeze and ST as claimed.



Well, there's also the claim by Pran that he ST'd Tholen and himself during Night 3 that needs to be taken into account.

So it's assumed that Pran was targetted by the Kill ability, but Tholen died because of the ST. It's also because of this that it is assumed that Pran was meant to be in our group, but ended up in your group, and ours is only 3 people big.

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 08:31 PM

View PostOkaros, on 12 May 2014 - 08:29 PM, said:

View PostKorvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:25 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 12 May 2014 - 08:23 PM, said:

View PostKorvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:21 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 12 May 2014 - 08:18 PM, said:

Anthras claims he had Rupture for the entire game, but that he did not use it, so one of you must be lying.


Actually, RIO was available yesterday so that's bullshit for a start



He said he dropped it yesterday in order to pick up another contract.


Did he target Tholen with it N2 then as that is the only way I can see for Tholen to die with the Freeze and ST as claimed.



Well, there's also the claim by Pran that he ST'd Tholen and himself during Night 3 that needs to be taken into account.

So it's assumed that Pran was targetted by the Kill ability, but Tholen died because of the ST. It's also because of this that it is assumed that Pran was meant to be in our group, but ended up in your group, and ours is only 3 people big.



Though, of course, that doesn't work if you're the one who had the Vig, and it didn't go through yesterday as you claim. It would mean that the holder of RIO targeted Tholen on Night 2.

Who voted for Tholen during Day 3?

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 08:37 PM

I don't see anyone so far

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 08:38 PM

View PostKorvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:37 PM, said:

I don't see anyone so far


Anyone know for sure what ST was used for N2?

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 08:40 PM

View PostKorvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:37 PM, said:

I don't see anyone so far



View PostKorvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:38 PM, said:

View PostKorvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:37 PM, said:

I don't see anyone so far


Anyone know for sure what ST was used for N2?



Yeah, I'm digging, and so far it's not looking all that great for you.

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 08:42 PM

View PostOkaros, on 12 May 2014 - 08:40 PM, said:

View PostKorvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:37 PM, said:

I don't see anyone so far



View PostKorvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:38 PM, said:

View PostKorvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:37 PM, said:

I don't see anyone so far


Anyone know for sure what ST was used for N2?



Yeah, I'm digging, and so far it's not looking all that great for you.


I'll wait on D'reks modkill for the offender if you don't mind

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 08:45 PM

View PostKorvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:42 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 12 May 2014 - 08:40 PM, said:

View PostKorvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:37 PM, said:

I don't see anyone so far



View PostKorvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:38 PM, said:

View PostKorvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:37 PM, said:

I don't see anyone so far


Anyone know for sure what ST was used for N2?



Yeah, I'm digging, and so far it's not looking all that great for you.


I'll wait on D'reks modkill for the offender if you don't mind


Although if that is Anthras and he has the Forcefield it could be interesting

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 08:47 PM

View PostKorvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:42 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 12 May 2014 - 08:40 PM, said:

View PostKorvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:37 PM, said:

I don't see anyone so far



View PostKorvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:38 PM, said:

View PostKorvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:37 PM, said:

I don't see anyone so far


Anyone know for sure what ST was used for N2?



Yeah, I'm digging, and so far it's not looking all that great for you.


I'll wait on D'reks modkill for the offender if you don't mind



Given D'rek has been around a couple or few times since the beginning of Day 4, I'm assuming that there was no offense.

I've dug all through Day 3, and have not found a single vote on Tholen, which means RIO could not have been used against him on Night 2.

However, it's possible that the holder of RIO targetted someone else during Night 2, and that it was ST'd to Tholen. I'm going to see if I can find some claims of use of ST during Night 2.

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 08:48 PM

View PostOkaros, on 12 May 2014 - 08:12 PM, said:

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View PostOkaros, on 12 May 2014 - 07:54 PM, said:

View PostKorvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 07:51 PM, said:

Oh and what can I do to clear myself up?

The freezer can't confirm, but I guess he can say what he did if he dropped AT.

Well, have you had any contracts which you've Relinquished and can tell us about? Has anything happened to you that you'd like to share? You've been playing the helpful townie, but you haven't really told us anything about yourself the entire game.


I picked up the Anti-Tank yesterday. Please bear with me as my logic at the time was a little convoluted:

Anti-Tank became available, I picked it up. Still not being entirely sure on Hentos at start of Day I submitted prov. to kill him. Recap of thread at the time persuaded me he was probably town and needed to stay alive (to resurrect NK'd town if nothing else till he brought back scum) so I figured that ST was extremely unlikely to be in scum hands after Ryllandaras' CF and that one of the alts targeted by it was almost certainly going to be Hentos in order to redirect NKs away from him. I left the provisional on Hentos, figuring out that whoever had ST is likely more switched on this game than I am and would pick what they considered to be a scummy alt as the other half of the swap, by leaving it on Hentos I would be letting another players judgement make the call - even at the risk of it being me that I NK'd.

I logged in, saw Tholen was dead and thought it paid off very well - till I realised I was frozen therefore couldn't have pulled off the NK. Cue banging head against wall. Now Pran claims use of ST, after I thought calling to be possessed. He claims he swapped himself and Tholen but I know for a fact I never targeted Pran with the Vig, so how did Tholen die?

My freezer can verify I was their target and can confirm I am essentially a RI for the next 3 days.



I`m pretty sure you just got yourself modkilled - you're not allowed to reveal what contract you currently hold. That's how Venesara got modkilled.

I doubt he's not allowed to say what effect was on him, but if the freezer didn't drop the contract, then he can't reveal.

This post has been edited by Hentos Ilm: 12 May 2014 - 08:50 PM


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Posted 12 May 2014 - 08:50 PM

The above was edited because my phone is fucked.

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 08:54 PM

View PostOkaros, on 08 May 2014 - 07:00 PM, said:

I am stumped - it doesn't say anything in the Chronokinesis contract about switching someone's body with the dead person's. I thought maybe there was something to do with the Spatial Teleportation contract, but that's been open all day during Day 2, so that doesn't make sense.



Hmmmmm - seems like it wasn't registered during Night 2, so whoever held RIO would have had to vote Tholen during Day 3 if they used it on him during Night 2.

Korvalain, I think you just stuck your foot into your mouth. I don't see how town can overlook voting you out right now. If I were in your group, my vote would definitely be on you.

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 08:55 PM

View PostHentos Ilm, on 12 May 2014 - 08:48 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 12 May 2014 - 08:12 PM, said:

View PostKorvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 08:08 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 12 May 2014 - 07:54 PM, said:

View PostKorvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 07:51 PM, said:

Oh and what can I do to clear myself up?

The freezer can't confirm, but I guess he can say what he did if he dropped AT.

Well, have you had any contracts which you've Relinquished and can tell us about? Has anything happened to you that you'd like to share? You've been playing the helpful townie, but you haven't really told us anything about yourself the entire game.


I picked up the Anti-Tank yesterday. Please bear with me as my logic at the time was a little convoluted:

Anti-Tank became available, I picked it up. Still not being entirely sure on Hentos at start of Day I submitted prov. to kill him. Recap of thread at the time persuaded me he was probably town and needed to stay alive (to resurrect NK'd town if nothing else till he brought back scum) so I figured that ST was extremely unlikely to be in scum hands after Ryllandaras' CF and that one of the alts targeted by it was almost certainly going to be Hentos in order to redirect NKs away from him. I left the provisional on Hentos, figuring out that whoever had ST is likely more switched on this game than I am and would pick what they considered to be a scummy alt as the other half of the swap, by leaving it on Hentos I would be letting another players judgement make the call - even at the risk of it being me that I NK'd.

I logged in, saw Tholen was dead and thought it paid off very well - till I realised I was frozen therefore couldn't have pulled off the NK. Cue banging head against wall. Now Pran claims use of ST, after I thought calling to be possessed. He claims he swapped himself and Tholen but I know for a fact I never targeted Pran with the Vig, so how did Tholen die?

My freezer can verify I was their target and can confirm I am essentially a RI for the next 3 days.



I`m pretty sure you just got yourself modkilled - you're not allowed to reveal what contract you currently hold. That's how Venesara got modkilled.

I doubt he's not allowed to say what effect was on him, but if the freezer didn't drop the contract, then he can't reveal.



I thought he was implying that he still held the Vig contract.

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 08:56 PM

View PostOkaros, on 12 May 2014 - 08:54 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 08 May 2014 - 07:00 PM, said:

I am stumped - it doesn't say anything in the Chronokinesis contract about switching someone's body with the dead person's. I thought maybe there was something to do with the Spatial Teleportation contract, but that's been open all day during Day 2, so that doesn't make sense.



Hmmmmm - seems like it wasn't registered during Night 2, so whoever held RIO would have had to vote Tholen during Day 3 if they used it on him during Night 2.

Korvalain, I think you just stuck your foot into your mouth. I don't see how town can overlook voting you out right now. If I were in your group, my vote would definitely be on you.


Yeah and wait of D'reks opinion on the matter.

If someone can't pay the piper they shouldn't be calling the tune.

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 08:57 PM

Incidentally, I'm giving up on my catch-up for now because if I'm going to be lynched for someone elses failing to follow their renumeration then blow that for a lark.

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 09:08 PM

Heh. I'm taking a break from something else. But, yeah, I think Korv fucked up.

Korv, what contract did you take on Day 1?

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 09:17 PM

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 09:20 PM

It is Day 4. 20 hours remaining. 60 minutes of registration remaining.



8 players are alive:
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Anthras, Okaros, Ryllandaras

2 votes to lynch. 2 votes to go to night.

No one has voted.
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Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Korbas, Korvalain, Pran Chole

3 votes to lynch. 3 votes to go to night.

1 vote for Korvalain (Hentos Ilm)
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Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 12 May 2014 - 09:21 PM

View PostKorbas, on 12 May 2014 - 09:08 PM, said:

Heh. I'm taking a break from something else. But, yeah, I think Korv fucked up.

Korv, what contract did you take on Day 1?


I imagine Day 3 is being gone through with a fine toothed comb right now so STFU.

And like hell am I going to answer that when telling the truth gets me damned because someone else can't follow the rules.

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 09:25 PM

I have gone through Day 3 twice now and not found a single vote on Tholen

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 09:25 PM

View PostKorvalain, on 12 May 2014 - 09:21 PM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 12 May 2014 - 09:08 PM, said:

Heh. I'm taking a break from something else. But, yeah, I think Korv fucked up.

Korv, what contract did you take on Day 1?


I imagine Day 3 is being gone through with a fine toothed comb right now so STFU.

And like hell am I going to answer that when telling the truth gets me damned because someone else can't follow the rules.


Not telling is going to get you lynched. *shrug*


I'm not certain about Day 3. Theoretically Tholen could have killed himself given ST was used as Pran says.

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