[Anthras]

Ryllandaras, on 12 May 2014 - 04:30 PM, said:

Korbas, on 12 May 2014 - 04:24 PM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 12 May 2014 - 04:18 PM, said:

Great effort Anthras! At least there's only two of us that you have to reply to in ths group.

And uh, sorry for you having to reply to this post

You had ST night one? Hence the Hanas death in place of Okaros?

Yep.

Korbas that ground was covered when Ryllandaras was brought back. Just go back 3 pages to the start of day. There is a very extensive post about it.

[Korbas]

Anthras, on 12 May 2014 - 04:43 PM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 12 May 2014 - 04:30 PM, said:

Korbas, on 12 May 2014 - 04:24 PM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 12 May 2014 - 04:18 PM, said:

Great effort Anthras! At least there's only two of us that you have to reply to in ths group.

And uh, sorry for you having to reply to this post

You had ST night one? Hence the Hanas death in place of Okaros?

Yep.

Korbas that ground was covered when Ryllandaras was brought back. Just go back 3 pages to the start of day. There is a very extensive post about it.

All I wanted was a yes or no. Somebody said it; I remember reading it. Just not certain who said it.

[Anthras]

Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 02:45 PM, said:

So yeah, I had Spatial Teleportation day 1. I chose Okaros and Hanas for no real reason other than they were top and bottom poster at the time. When Okaros died, I knew Hanas had been targetted but didn't want to say anything unless Hanas came under pressure. I then dropped Spatial to try and pick up Chrono in order to bring Okaros back. In hindsight, I should maybe have revealed after that, but I forgot that reversing the death would also reverse the teleportation and Hanasould die instead - if Ay Estos had been chosen Hanas would still be alive. Never mind, Okaros has played very well since resurrection!

Korbas, on 12 May 2014 - 04:58 PM, said:

All I wanted was a yes or no. Somebody said it; I remember reading it. Just not certain who said it.

There you go.

[Korbas]

Anthras, on 12 May 2014 - 03:17 PM, said:

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 03:03 PM, said:

Hentos Ilm, on 12 May 2014 - 03:00 PM, said:

Vote Korvalain

Following my gut and suspicions here. And maybe he'll finally give a case himself.

If I were in that group, that's where my vote would be going as well.

The thing that really rubs me the wrong way about him is that he has not been at all forthcoming with anything this game, unlike the rest of us. He's tried to appear helpful, but he's not let us know a single contract he has relinquished, or anything of that sort. The only other person I've got on my suspicion list right now are Karatallid (though right now I think he's just too obvious as scum, so I have him as likely townie) and Anthras (though as I've said in a previous post, I'm leaning much further on the town side for him than the scum side given today's developments).

I will tell you the contract that I previously held. On Day 1 I picked up Rupture and I held it until recently. I did not use it on anyone although Korbas tempted me once or twice. But I overcame my natural instincts and didn't. I tried to allude that I had it on day 1. I was fine being lynched while I held it as that would have denied it to scum later in the game. Something else opened up and I decided that towns interests would be better served if I dropped that contract and picked up a new one.

That's the one I wanted to know about Anthras. You illiterate spewing pustule on the ass of a syphilitic whore.

Korbas, on 12 May 2014 - 04:20 PM, said:

Anthras, did you say you picked up the Rupture day 1?

Okey, here's my thought. Venesara had the Stone contract night 1. When asked if a BP had been used, he didn't answer. But was later modkilled for saying that he had three. So presumably he had asked PS about the BP.

Anthras was very vocal about needing to lynch Venesara.

Anthras, on 06 May 2014 - 08:37 PM, said:

I am taking off. I feel that Venesara has to be lynched. Failure to lynch them will cast a shadow over them for the rest of the game. Scum will use that shadow to hide in for as long as possible. If it was a slip that sucks. But due to the WIFOM Venesara has to be lynched. We will just be making the game harder on ourselves if we do not lynch Venesara today.



Vote Venesara

So. Assume Anthras is lying. (His lips are moving after all.) But not about being town. About not using the Rupture night 1. IF that happened the only reason for Ven not losing a BP would be if the Rupture didn't land. I.e. Anthras was guarded.

I didn't go back and finish that contract history I started, but I think that EZ-674 | Gravity Amplification has been held by the same person the entire time. If so, AND if you guarded Anthras night 1, then I'm thinking he can be CIed by you relinquishing and revealing.

Whether that is worth it is up to you. But I'm loving the idea of Anthras being CIed by proving he lied.

[Korbas]

Anthras, on 12 May 2014 - 01:43 PM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 03:21 PM, said:

Pran Chole, on 10 May 2014 - 03:18 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 10 May 2014 - 02:33 PM, said:

8 players are alive: Anthras, Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Korbas, Korvalain, Okaros, Pran Chole, Ryllandaras

Well, here's where I stand at the moment. Strikethrough are the people I believe are innocent. Underlined are more likely inno. In red are my top suspects, with Hentos-case-making-Korv as my #1

I would make Korbas probable townie too. His agony last night over whether to vote and effort he put in dragging pieces together seemed sincere.

If Korbas isn't a townie he should be an example to all scum of how to play.

Que? All scum should play like a shitty townie who needs to re-assess how he plays the game?

[Korbas]

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 01:30 PM, said:

Okay, I was all like, why the hell is Anthra replying to dead Demelain's posts, then I realized that he must have the Impenetrable Infinite Forece-field Creation contract, which means that killing him off would end the Force-field effect. That makes me lean pretty much all the way over towards town, given he can't do anything to me without Ryll's vote, and though I sometimes have my worries about him, I'm pretty sure Ryll will be smart enough to know I'm not scum.

Looks like it's going to be a long couple of days for the three of us given none of us can really do anything until we're back with the group.

The thing that worries me is that IF Anthras is scum, then this is a good way for him to survive a few more days while picking off a few people in the other group.

There's yet a third way to prove that short of lynching him. But I'll withhold it for a bit. Dont' want to give anyone ideas.

[Anthras]

Korbas, on 12 May 2014 - 05:48 PM, said:

Anthras, on 12 May 2014 - 01:43 PM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 03:21 PM, said:

Pran Chole, on 10 May 2014 - 03:18 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 10 May 2014 - 02:33 PM, said:

8 players are alive: Anthras, Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Korbas, Korvalain, Okaros, Pran Chole, Ryllandaras

Well, here's where I stand at the moment. Strikethrough are the people I believe are innocent. Underlined are more likely inno. In red are my top suspects, with Hentos-case-making-Korv as my #1

I would make Korbas probable townie too. His agony last night over whether to vote and effort he put in dragging pieces together seemed sincere.

If Korbas isn't a townie he should be an example to all scum of how to play.

Que? All scum should play like a shitty townie who needs to re-assess how he plays the game?

Yes no one has voted for you have they? Well no build a train on you. No one even build a case on you. So yeah I think you need to reevaluate how you look at town interactions but if you scum then this game should be a lesson for how to play scum. I would still have you look at how you look at things as I think that you waste a lot of time and towns by incorrectly examining things. But I never said that you were scum.

[Anthras]

Korbas, on 12 May 2014 - 05:33 PM, said:

Anthras, on 12 May 2014 - 03:17 PM, said:

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 03:03 PM, said:

Hentos Ilm, on 12 May 2014 - 03:00 PM, said:

Vote Korvalain

Following my gut and suspicions here. And maybe he'll finally give a case himself.

If I were in that group, that's where my vote would be going as well.

The thing that really rubs me the wrong way about him is that he has not been at all forthcoming with anything this game, unlike the rest of us. He's tried to appear helpful, but he's not let us know a single contract he has relinquished, or anything of that sort. The only other person I've got on my suspicion list right now are Karatallid (though right now I think he's just too obvious as scum, so I have him as likely townie) and Anthras (though as I've said in a previous post, I'm leaning much further on the town side for him than the scum side given today's developments).

I will tell you the contract that I previously held. On Day 1 I picked up Rupture and I held it until recently. I did not use it on anyone although Korbas tempted me once or twice. But I overcame my natural instincts and didn't. I tried to allude that I had it on day 1. I was fine being lynched while I held it as that would have denied it to scum later in the game. Something else opened up and I decided that towns interests would be better served if I dropped that contract and picked up a new one.

That's the one I wanted to know about Anthras. You illiterate spewing pustule on the ass of a syphilitic whore.

Korbas, on 12 May 2014 - 04:20 PM, said:

Anthras, did you say you picked up the Rupture day 1?

Okey, here's my thought. Venesara had the Stone contract night 1. When asked if a BP had been used, he didn't answer. But was later modkilled for saying that he had three. So presumably he had asked PS about the BP.

Anthras was very vocal about needing to lynch Venesara.

Anthras, on 06 May 2014 - 08:37 PM, said:

I am taking off. I feel that Venesara has to be lynched. Failure to lynch them will cast a shadow over them for the rest of the game. Scum will use that shadow to hide in for as long as possible. If it was a slip that sucks. But due to the WIFOM Venesara has to be lynched. We will just be making the game harder on ourselves if we do not lynch Venesara today.



Vote Venesara

So. Assume Anthras is lying. (His lips are moving after all.) But not about being town. About not using the Rupture night 1. IF that happened the only reason for Ven not losing a BP would be if the Rupture didn't land. I.e. Anthras was guarded.

I didn't go back and finish that contract history I started, but I think that EZ-674 | Gravity Amplification has been held by the same person the entire time. If so, AND if you guarded Anthras night 1, then I'm thinking he can be CIed by you relinquishing and revealing.

Whether that is worth it is up to you. But I'm loving the idea of Anthras being CIed by proving he lied.

First off I had Rupture the entire game until yesterday. If I was going to kill someone it would have been you not Ven. Obviously you think you have me alted and so you should know that I have a tendency to kill people who piss me off. My reasons for wanting Ven lynched on Day 1 (which you ignored again) had nothing to do with whether I thought he was town or not. I was unsure on day 1 and until he dropped on day 2. They had to do with his saying that "IF he was tow" that kind of slip was enough to lynch him. I still maintain that. It was a horrible slip and something that no towny should ever make. In a M/P game when someone makes a mistake like that and they are town and not lynched then scum can and will use that person keeping the pressure on them for as long as possible so that the rest of town does not look past that player. Based on that Ven needed to be lynched. I never used my previous contract. If you go back to the first day you can see when Rupture was taken. It was much later in the day. I had put all of the contracts that I thought that scum would take at the top of my provisional list on the off chance that one of them were still available and I could sit on it. Which is what I did. Regardless of whether anyone guarded me or not. Why don't you use some of your impressive ability to look for none connecting links on the clusterfuck that was Mentals lynch. Rather then trying to CI me. I do not need to be CIed for us to win the game. Any move that I have made have been in the best interests of town as I see them to be.

[Korbas]

Anthras, on 12 May 2014 - 06:06 PM, said:

Korbas, on 12 May 2014 - 05:33 PM, said:

Anthras, on 12 May 2014 - 03:17 PM, said:

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 03:03 PM, said:

Hentos Ilm, on 12 May 2014 - 03:00 PM, said:

Vote Korvalain

Following my gut and suspicions here. And maybe he'll finally give a case himself.

If I were in that group, that's where my vote would be going as well.

The thing that really rubs me the wrong way about him is that he has not been at all forthcoming with anything this game, unlike the rest of us. He's tried to appear helpful, but he's not let us know a single contract he has relinquished, or anything of that sort. The only other person I've got on my suspicion list right now are Karatallid (though right now I think he's just too obvious as scum, so I have him as likely townie) and Anthras (though as I've said in a previous post, I'm leaning much further on the town side for him than the scum side given today's developments).

I will tell you the contract that I previously held. On Day 1 I picked up Rupture and I held it until recently. I did not use it on anyone although Korbas tempted me once or twice. But I overcame my natural instincts and didn't. I tried to allude that I had it on day 1. I was fine being lynched while I held it as that would have denied it to scum later in the game. Something else opened up and I decided that towns interests would be better served if I dropped that contract and picked up a new one.

That's the one I wanted to know about Anthras. You illiterate spewing pustule on the ass of a syphilitic whore.

Korbas, on 12 May 2014 - 04:20 PM, said:

Anthras, did you say you picked up the Rupture day 1?

Okey, here's my thought. Venesara had the Stone contract night 1. When asked if a BP had been used, he didn't answer. But was later modkilled for saying that he had three. So presumably he had asked PS about the BP.

Anthras was very vocal about needing to lynch Venesara.

Anthras, on 06 May 2014 - 08:37 PM, said:

I am taking off. I feel that Venesara has to be lynched. Failure to lynch them will cast a shadow over them for the rest of the game. Scum will use that shadow to hide in for as long as possible. If it was a slip that sucks. But due to the WIFOM Venesara has to be lynched. We will just be making the game harder on ourselves if we do not lynch Venesara today.



Vote Venesara

So. Assume Anthras is lying. (His lips are moving after all.) But not about being town. About not using the Rupture night 1. IF that happened the only reason for Ven not losing a BP would be if the Rupture didn't land. I.e. Anthras was guarded.

I didn't go back and finish that contract history I started, but I think that EZ-674 | Gravity Amplification has been held by the same person the entire time. If so, AND if you guarded Anthras night 1, then I'm thinking he can be CIed by you relinquishing and revealing.

Whether that is worth it is up to you. But I'm loving the idea of Anthras being CIed by proving he lied.

First off I had Rupture the entire game until yesterday. If I was going to kill someone it would have been you not Ven. Obviously you think you have me alted and so you should know that I have a tendency to kill people who piss me off. My reasons for wanting Ven lynched on Day 1 (which you ignored again) had nothing to do with whether I thought he was town or not. I was unsure on day 1 and until he dropped on day 2. They had to do with his saying that "IF he was tow" that kind of slip was enough to lynch him. I still maintain that. It was a horrible slip and something that no towny should ever make. In a M/P game when someone makes a mistake like that and they are town and not lynched then scum can and will use that person keeping the pressure on them for as long as possible so that the rest of town does not look past that player. Based on that Ven needed to be lynched. I never used my previous contract. If you go back to the first day you can see when Rupture was taken. It was much later in the day. I had put all of the contracts that I thought that scum would take at the top of my provisional list on the off chance that one of them were still available and I could sit on it. Which is what I did. Regardless of whether anyone guarded me or not. Why don't you use some of your impressive ability to look for none connecting links on the clusterfuck that was Mentals lynch. Rather then trying to CI me. I do not need to be CIed for us to win the game. Any move that I have made have been in the best interests of town as I see them to be.

I know Rupture was taken late in the day. Hence, the "if he's lying about not using it the guard can CI him." Almost. It's possible you were guarded and did not use the RIO.

At this point I see 3 different ways to CI you. So quit bitching. I'm trying to narrow the search down.

And, yes, I'm going to take another stab at that clusterfuck. But it gives me headaches.

[Korbas]

We have around 24 hours I think. Lots of time yet. I was working on ways to prove that the scum can't be on your side (meaning you). Now I've got to work on who is who over here.

[Anthras]

Korbas, on 12 May 2014 - 06:21 PM, said:

We have around 24 hours I think. Lots of time yet. I was working on ways to prove that the scum can't be on your side (meaning you). Now I've got to work on who is who over here.

That is a waste of time. I know that I am not and that Okaros and Ry both aren't. So work off of that. If you guys can't lynch scum over there before the walls come down then you can take another look at me.

[Okaros]

Anthras, on 12 May 2014 - 06:29 PM, said:

Korbas, on 12 May 2014 - 06:21 PM, said:

We have around 24 hours I think. Lots of time yet. I was working on ways to prove that the scum can't be on your side (meaning you). Now I've got to work on who is who over here.

That is a waste of time. I know that I am not and that Okaros and Ry both aren't. So work off of that. If you guys can't lynch scum over there before the walls come down then you can take another look at me.

It's what I was going to suggest. Regardless of whether or not Anthras is scum, he is most likely the one who put us into groups, so we don't want to lynch him until that contract is fulfilled anyway, so as to keep potential scum in the other group from hurting the two CI's (myself and Ryll).

[Korbas]

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 06:31 PM, said:

Anthras, on 12 May 2014 - 06:29 PM, said:

Korbas, on 12 May 2014 - 06:21 PM, said:

We have around 24 hours I think. Lots of time yet. I was working on ways to prove that the scum can't be on your side (meaning you). Now I've got to work on who is who over here.

That is a waste of time. I know that I am not and that Okaros and Ry both aren't. So work off of that. If you guys can't lynch scum over there before the walls come down then you can take another look at me.

It's what I was going to suggest. Regardless of whether or not Anthras is scum, he is most likely the one who put us into groups, so we don't want to lynch him until that contract is fulfilled anyway, so as to keep potential scum in the other group from hurting the two CI's (myself and Ryll).

So I spent a bit of time making sure for myself that Anthras could be CIed. Given that I was sure of him being scum on day 2 I think I owe it to him (and myself) to do that. Only time I wasted was my own.

[Korbas]

Oh. And the 3rd way to CI him also CI's somebody on this side. But I can't be sure of that method just yet.

[Anthras]

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 06:31 PM, said:

Anthras, on 12 May 2014 - 06:29 PM, said:

Korbas, on 12 May 2014 - 06:21 PM, said:

We have around 24 hours I think. Lots of time yet. I was working on ways to prove that the scum can't be on your side (meaning you). Now I've got to work on who is who over here.

That is a waste of time. I know that I am not and that Okaros and Ry both aren't. So work off of that. If you guys can't lynch scum over there before the walls come down then you can take another look at me.

It's what I was going to suggest. Regardless of whether or not Anthras is scum, he is most likely the one who put us into groups, so we don't want to lynch him until that contract is fulfilled anyway, so as to keep potential scum in the other group from hurting the two CI's (myself and Ryll).

Which is probably why you two are in a separate group.

[Korbas]

Not to mention: the more live CIs we can get, the more insane it would be for a townie to attempt to go rogue with SCM.

[Okaros]

Korbas, on 12 May 2014 - 06:44 PM, said:

Not to mention: the more live CIs we can get, the more insane it would be for a townie to attempt to go rogue with SCM.

I don't really think that's strictly true. If someone picks up that contract, then every single person on thread becomes suspect again, including those who have been CI'd.

[Anthras]

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 06:45 PM, said:

Korbas, on 12 May 2014 - 06:44 PM, said:

Not to mention: the more live CIs we can get, the more insane it would be for a townie to attempt to go rogue with SCM.

I don't really think that's strictly true. If someone picks up that contract, then every single person on thread becomes suspect again, including those who have been CI'd.

That is totally true. IF that gets picked up the game starts all over again with no one being clear and all being suspect.

[Okaros]

I wish someone other than Korbas from the other group was around. I mean, I'm happy that at least ONE of you is around, but it's hard to analyse non-existant posts.

[Korbas]

Hmmm. I think I can prove that that's wrong. But quit giving Ryll incentive dammit.