[Pran Chole]

If it is a townie who took SK, I must say this whole situation pisses me off. The game should be fucking over, with the first fucking town victory in I don't know how many games.

[Pran Chole]

Okaros, on 14 May 2014 - 02:11 AM, said:

I'd really like to know if someone was hit with Rupture.

I wasn't.

[Hentos Ilm]

Pran Chole, on 14 May 2014 - 07:19 AM, said:

If it is a townie who took SK, I must say this whole situation pisses me off. The game should be fucking over, with the first fucking town victory in I don't know how many games.

I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment, but all we can do is play on and conclude it for real.
I also wasn't Ruptured.

[Pran Chole]

Hentos Ilm, on 14 May 2014 - 07:08 AM, said:

Ryllandaras has the better starting position for the SK (as CI, grouped with CI) an alibi (for better or worse) in being Cryo'd and has the STUPID lynch of Anthras going against him. He also makes a case on Korbas, then doesn't vote for it... which is strange.

Ryllandaras, on 14 May 2014 - 05:10 AM, said:

So,


Vote Korbas

[Hentos Ilm]

Pran Chole, on 14 May 2014 - 08:49 AM, said:

Hentos Ilm, on 14 May 2014 - 07:08 AM, said:

Ryllandaras has the better starting position for the SK (as CI, grouped with CI) an alibi (for better or worse) in being Cryo'd and has the STUPID lynch of Anthras going against him. He also makes a case on Korbas, then doesn't vote for it... which is strange.

Ryllandaras, on 14 May 2014 - 05:10 AM, said:

So,


Vote Korbas

Ah.
Okay.

So, where do we go from here?
We wait until 18 hours and see who registers what and hope the very best?

[Pran Chole]

I just did a re-read of the past couple of game days. I take back my "theory" I mention above. I had misremembered something.

[Okaros]

Pran Chole, on 14 May 2014 - 03:04 AM, said:

I, for one, believe the chap, and I also have a theory as to who it is.

Irony, is thy name.

Pran - as far as I can see, you've never told us what your theory is. Who do you think it is?

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 5. 16 hours and 21 minutes remaining.

6 players are alive: Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Korbas, Pran Chole, Okaros, Ryllandaras

4 votes to lynch. 3 to go to night.

1 vote for Ryllandaras (Hentos Ilm)
1 vote for Korbas (Ryllandaras)

[Okaros]

Karatallid, on 14 May 2014 - 04:17 AM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 14 May 2014 - 04:06 AM, said:

Karatallid, on 14 May 2014 - 02:01 AM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 14 May 2014 - 01:58 AM, said:

Karatallid, on 14 May 2014 - 01:31 AM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 13 May 2014 - 09:36 PM, said:

Hentos Ilm, on 13 May 2014 - 09:16 PM, said:

Anyway; how big is the chance that the SK has Possession? How big is the chance that Rhyll as SK would then possess the other CI?

And does Okaros' Honesty renumeration apply to the Possessor?

Deep breaths. Don't want to get violent at the airport.

The chance is zero. Because Ryll is not the the SK. Ryll had Hormonal, and has now relinquished it.

Because, as the SK, you totally would not have picked up Hormonal to present this exact scenario, amirite?

No. I would have picked up the vig and vigged your ass for being a moron.

Seeing as defending is pointless as you all think I'm the SK because META, I've read over and I think there's a case to be made on another, so see what you think of that. But that won't happen till I'm at the hotel. Just got to Dulles now.

And then of course you can lynch me anyway and when I come out not SK, you can all shrug your shoulders and say 'oh, but it was ...., what else were we to think.' It may be the long journey making me cranky, but seriously fuck you guys.

Honestly, I haven't actually paid attention to which player you are, and I have no idea why you think people are using meta.

Never mind that your pissy attitude is basically the typical "oh woe is me" temper-tantrum line that people throw out for no good reason. It doesn't help. It makes people want to lynch you more. If you're Town, it's bad play because of that. If you're scum, it's bad play because the only way to benefit from it is for people to take pity on you. This is fucking mafia, there is no pity.

And I'm pretty sure only one person has voted for you. WTF.

Save the lecture and don't patronise me.

The 'pissy attitude' is well merited when every time I come on here no one has done anything but fuck all today. You're all waiting for someone else to do something rather than working on the thread. You're lazy, and your laziness is going to see me lynched. Yes, one person has voted, and at least three others have said all but that they're going to vote for me. So, honestly, what exactly is it you're waiting for? Are you using the time to make cases? Go over the thread?


Or are you all just waiting for me to respond and absolutely nothing else. Because I don't see a whole lot else happening. Meanwhile, the SK is kicking their heels back.

And what exactly is it we're looking for? Someone who has, in the dearth of posting so far, changed their behaviour?

SK is as good as a late-game FM in terms of being hard to spot. We're back to square one in a lot of respects. You voted to lynch someone who was "CI". You voted without being 100% up to date on the thread. You voted on pretty flimsy reasoning and then...what. You expect everyone to ignore that?

Of course people aren't voting straight away. We want to spend time finding shit out, rather than rushing through what is a perverted version of day one, from a scum-hunting perspective. But you going all emo on-thread to complain about meta reasoning (which afaik, no-one brought up) is not a good response. It's a response that scum make when they're caught out and don't want to lose. You are acting like you're already lynched instead of playing the game. You are complaining about other people not working the thread? Where are YOUR cases, then? Don't just whine, like Korv did, that you got caught in a bad situation. Fucking do something about it. "Be the change you wish to see" or whatever.

So yeah. Moan all you like about meta and whatnot. You voted poorly. That's pretty damning. But you aren't doing yourself or anyone else any favours by doing that. In fact, you're putting nails into your own coffin.

Karatallid, on 14 May 2014 - 04:19 AM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 14 May 2014 - 04:12 AM, said:

Woe is me, is it? Screw you. This isn't woe, this is anger. Anger because one townie did a stupid thing, and I then did a stupid thing back by following them which is now caused everyone to look the wrong way.

As a town or scum, I will never lie down and take something like that willingly. I always defend myself from a lynching. And if part of the defence is to castigate your play today (or lack thereof) then that's perfectly valid on my part.

You're not defending, you're moaning. You're whining. You're playing like there's some sort of foregone conclusion after ONE FUCKING VOTE.

Defend yourself, if that's what you say you're doing. But right now, you're just playing the emo cry-baby card. You're not even "castigating" anyone's play - you're just throwing baseless accusations of meta reasoning around.

You're right in that Ryllandaras is whining about being set up, but it is what it is. What I find rich is that this holier than thou speech is coming from a guy who has like 2 or 3 posts a day for most of the game. At least Ryll is/has been participating.

[Okaros]

What do people think of the Korbas case? I'd be willing to go that way if that's what we're thinking.

The thing that bugs me about it is that Korbas HAS been more quiet than usual, and in the past in this game, that has often been because the person in question was possessed (see Pran on Day 2)

[Pran Chole]

Okaros, on 14 May 2014 - 01:16 PM, said:

Pran Chole, on 14 May 2014 - 03:04 AM, said:

I, for one, believe the chap, and I also have a theory as to who it is.

Irony, is thy name.

Pran - as far as I can see, you've never told us what your theory is. Who do you think it is?

The post by Hentos Ilm where he speculates the SK violates the Rule B3 or whatever, so town can't take it, struck me as a very calculating-style post. The irony is for me personally, since I know he was originally innocent - he's kind of like you zombie-guys, above suspicion and could be trying to ride that. (no one has mentioned him as a possibility at all).

His posts since then seem pretty legit though, so I'm leaning towards Korbas at the moment.

To be honest though, this game has tired me out a bit.

[Pran Chole]

Okaros, on 14 May 2014 - 01:34 PM, said:

What do people think of the Korbas case? I'd be willing to go that way if that's what we're thinking.

The thing that bugs me about it is that Korbas HAS been more quiet than usual, and in the past in this game, that has often been because the person in question was possessed (see Pran on Day 2)

That's a good point.

[Pran Chole]

Ok, Korbas hasn't posted at all.

We can't wait for TimeOut to lynch, and I don't think we lynch him.

[Okaros]

Pran Chole, on 14 May 2014 - 01:40 PM, said:

Okaros, on 14 May 2014 - 01:16 PM, said:

Pran Chole, on 14 May 2014 - 03:04 AM, said:

I, for one, believe the chap, and I also have a theory as to who it is.

Irony, is thy name.

Pran - as far as I can see, you've never told us what your theory is. Who do you think it is?

The post by Hentos Ilm where he speculates the SK violates the Rule B3 or whatever, so town can't take it, struck me as a very calculating-style post. The irony is for me personally, since I know he was originally innocent - he's kind of like you zombie-guys, above suspicion and could be trying to ride that. (no one has mentioned him as a possibility at all).

His posts since then seem pretty legit though, so I'm leaning towards Korbas at the moment.

To be honest though, this game has tired me out a bit.

The reason that Hentos seems like a not-likely SK choice is because Chronokinesis is still Registered, and though the SK COULD have kept the contract in order to hide behind it, I don't think that's the case. So Hentos is on my most likely town list, which leaves yourself, Korbas, Ryll and Karatallid. If Karatallid is the SK, I'm gonna be disappointed in his play. If Ryll is the SK, I will only be mildly surprised, but surprised nonetheless. So it's you or Korbas, as far as I'm concerned at this point. Which is why I'd be willing to vote Korbas.

[Okaros]

Pran Chole, on 14 May 2014 - 01:49 PM, said:

Ok, Korbas hasn't posted at all.

We can't wait for TimeOut to lynch, and I don't think we lynch him.

Wait... what?

[Pran Chole]

Ok, I get what you're saying about about Hentos.

If we lynch Korbas, who I can believe is SK, then it doesn't matter.

However, if we believe Korbas is possessed by the SK, then we don't want to wait until timeout to decide.

[Okaros]

Pran Chole, on 14 May 2014 - 02:00 PM, said:

Ok, I get what you're saying about about Hentos.

If we lynch Korbas, who I can believe is SK, then it doesn't matter.

However, if we believe Korbas is possessed by the SK, then we don't want to wait until timeout to decide.

Why not?

[Okaros]

Perhaps worthy of noting - Rupture has been dropped, and Pyrokinesis has been picked up.

Also picked up is the CF contract, meaning we won't see ANY CFs anymore, only the holder of the contract will see them. We'll know who it is fairly quickly as they can now only post in pictures.

So my guesses are as follows:

SK has the Possession and Vig contracts.
Ryll picked up Pyrokinesis to unfreeze himself
Hentos still has Chronokinesis

which leaves:

Cryokinesis
Remote Inert Organic Sensing and Disintegration

Split between Pran, myself, Korbas and/or Karatallid (one of the 3 that aren't me is almost definitely the SK in my head right now).

[Pran Chole]

Okaros, on 14 May 2014 - 02:08 PM, said:

Pran Chole, on 14 May 2014 - 02:00 PM, said:

Ok, I get what you're saying about about Hentos.

If we lynch Korbas, who I can believe is SK, then it doesn't matter.

However, if we believe Korbas is possessed by the SK, then we don't want to wait until timeout to decide.

Why not?

I confirmed it with D'rek - if the possessor wants to kill you, they can do so by keeping you silent for the 36 hour modkill timer. That almost happened to me, but they messed up by saying "good night" as me, so I was able to ask D'rek for an extension from the 20 minute or so window I had. (when i becamse unpossessed, it was the middle of the night for me so I was asleep).

[Okaros]

Pran Chole, on 14 May 2014 - 02:19 PM, said:

Okaros, on 14 May 2014 - 02:08 PM, said:

Pran Chole, on 14 May 2014 - 02:00 PM, said:

Ok, I get what you're saying about about Hentos.

If we lynch Korbas, who I can believe is SK, then it doesn't matter.

However, if we believe Korbas is possessed by the SK, then we don't want to wait until timeout to decide.

Why not?

I confirmed it with D'rek - if the possessor wants to kill you, they can do so by keeping you silent for the 36 hour modkill timer. That almost happened to me, but they messed up by saying "good night" as me, so I was able to ask D'rek for an extension from the 20 minute or so window I had. (when i becamse unpossessed, it was the middle of the night for me so I was asleep).

Ack, that's scary.

Then, if we work on the assumption that Korbas is possessed and whoever is possessing him is trying to get him modkilled, I guess we look at Karatallid?

vote Karatallid

Two posts in 1 day is not acceptable this close to end game.